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dnessett | I am trying to report a bug. I ran ubuntu-bug, but the package I cited, systemd, is flagged as "This does not seem to be an official Linux package". Can someone inform me where to report this bug? | 00:51 |
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guiverc | dnessett, you've not provided any Ubuntu product/release, but I'd likely `apt policy systemd` or the package you filed against and see if where your package is from; ubuntu-bug is for Ubuntu packages | 00:56 |
dnessett | I ran apt policy systemd. The results are shown here: https://gist.github.com/dnessett/3bd8e81146fa87fe4004ff610f99a0d5#file-apt-policy-systemd-txt | 01:00 |
snappy | is there a way to disable auditd without using a kernel commandline parameter? I just don't have a way of setting via cmdline param. | 01:00 |
snappy | oh sorry i don't think this is auditd, but the kernel audit facility | 01:03 |
dnessett | gulverc, for the record, my attempt to report the systemd bug is show here: https://gist.github.com/dnessett/63181f5285d15b140ed43e7f7c3d9ba2#file-ubuntu-bug-report-failure | 01:08 |
guiverc | dnessett, you're using an older package without fixes; a bug report on that would need to be re-tested on a later version before it wouldd be useful; a quick scan and i see `systemd | 249.11-0ubuntu3.12 | jammy-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x` which matches what your `apt policy` output showed anyway | 01:10 |
dnessett | I am running Linux Mint 21.1. Does this mean I would have to upgrade it to report a bug? Or is there a way to upgrade the package without upgrading the whole OS? (sorry, I am not adept at package management. Do I use apt update for this?) | 01:12 |
guiverc | You're system is outdated as your apt policy shows.. We don't support Linux Mint (which has runtime adjustments & other stuff Ubuntu doesn't need/require) | 01:13 |
guiverc | Any bug you filed (due outdated package) would be worthless until re-tested on a fully-upgraded system, so you'd achieve nothing.. I suggest upgrading packages ASAP | 01:14 |
dnessett | OK, how do I upgrade the systemd package? apt update systemd? | 01:14 |
guiverc | We don't support Linux Mint here sorry dnessett | 01:15 |
guiverc | dnessett, fyi.. the upgrade you're missing is dated 'Tue, 21 Nov 2023' so I hope you keep your box offline | 01:17 |
dnessett | Understood. This may not be something you can advise on (and I am not trying to be hostile), but Linux Mint says report Ubuntu bugs to Ubuntu and Ubuntu says report Linux Mint bugs to Linux Mint. There is a workaround. I was just trying to be a good citizen. | 01:18 |
Bashing-om | !cookie | dnessett | 01:20 |
ubottu | dnessett: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 01:20 |
guiverc | fair enough.. but a bug report needs to be on the current package (not older/unsupported packages) so upgrade your system first.. and don't forget being on Linux Mint with the runtime adjustments etc.. you have a different upgrade profile so Linux Mint have time to adjust their adjustments etc (varies on release) | 01:20 |
dnessett | So, just to know how to proceed. I should upgrade all packages on my current OS and then what? If the problem persists report the bug to Ubuntu? Try to report it to Linux Mint? | 01:23 |
guiverc | If you have upgraded all your packages; you can then use the `ubuntu-bug` as you likley did in my opinion dnessett ; any missing detail etc will be chased up by bug triager once report is seen (my 2c) | 01:25 |
guiverc | dnessett, ^ | 01:25 |
dnessett | OK, Thanks. I will do as you advise. | 01:26 |
guiverc | (that will also mean you've complied & done all you can for the good open-source citizen detail you mentioned before ^) | 01:26 |
guiverc | fyi; I'd expect you'll need to reboot before submitting bug report (ubuntu-bug) | 01:26 |
guiverc | (not sure if you're using a livepatch kernel sorry; re: reboot) | 01:27 |
dnessett | I'm not sure either. I am not an expert on linux kernels. But anyway, thanks again. I will attempt to follow you advise. Hopefully, that will fix the problem. If not, then I tried. | 01:29 |
guiverc | :) Trying is all that can be asked of us... (I'm told I can be very 'trying' !) | 01:31 |
NDPMacBook | dnessett: It might help you to join irc.spotchat.org #linuxment-help | 01:47 |
dnessett | I googled linux mint packages upgrade and found that I could run apt list --upgradable. The information for systemd is here: https://gist.github.com/dnessett/15bb3eaecf500d061b3ebafde0d4dfae. There is no date information, so I can't tell if it is dated 'Tue, 21 Nov 2023'. Anyway to translate 249.11-0ubuntu3.12 into a date? | 01:48 |
dnessett | NDPMacBook Thanks, | 01:49 |
guiverc | I got the date from the changelog and package version in your `apt policy` or my `rmadison` query... https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/s/systemd/systemd_249.11-0ubuntu3.12/changelog | 01:55 |
guiverc | dnessett, ^ | 01:55 |
dnessett | NDPMacBook: I tried to join #linuxmint-help using the instructions here: https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12, but I got the following error message: "irc.spotchat.org: Closing link: (655ABDKTV@207.192.75.252) [K-lined: please use mibbit properly]" | 02:00 |
guiverc | dnessett, we're not libera help; just a Ubuntu support option. | 02:03 |
dnessett | NDPMacBook: here https://drive.google.com/file/d/19QzSCzypwkf13Vn-Nqp56lwvbxMiP2ma/view?usp=share_link is my attempt to login to #linuxmint-help | 02:10 |
guiverc | We're not Linux Mint support; take problems about Linux Mint up with them | 02:11 |
guiverc | (they may have alternatives too, eg. Ubuntu has telegram, matrix ... and other sites; many of which are linked too) | 02:12 |
dnessett | guiverc: It appears 249.11-0ubuntu3.12 is dated 'Tue, 21 Nov 2023'. I will try updating it and see if that solves the ubuntu-bug problem. | 02:18 |
dnessett | guiverc: Thanks for sticking with this. Let's hope upgrading systemd will fix the problem and I can report the bug (if still it exists in the newer version of systemd). | 02:21 |
oerheks | !info fail2ban | 02:23 |
ubottu | fail2ban (1.0.2-3ubuntu0.1, noble): ban hosts that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Built by fail2ban. Size 400 kB / 2,090 kB | 02:23 |
oerheks | dnessett, bug the mint devs.. | 02:24 |
iconoclasthero | the 24.04 installer won't. | 02:25 |
iconoclasthero | any ideas on why? there was one bug in there that seemed to match what happened to me. | 02:26 |
guiverc | iconoclasthero, you'll need to be specific; Ubuntu 24.04 LTS has ISOs using subiquity, ubuntu-desktop-installer & flavors using calamares... there isn't just one installer | 02:26 |
iconoclasthero | subiquity | 02:26 |
oerheks | any ideas on why? no | 02:26 |
oerheks | explain? | 02:26 |
iconoclasthero | i would click on it and it would go a litte way and then it would just disappear. | 02:27 |
iconoclasthero | i guess if i thought i could figure out the bin, i should have called it from the cli. | 02:27 |
oerheks | I have no idea what you are talking about. | 02:28 |
toddc | is he trying to upfrade from 22.04 using a 24.04 iso That will not work!! wait till later this month and upgrade option will pop up | 02:34 |
oerheks | oh, no need for that, use the -d option, but first make sure you have a daily iso on usb | 02:35 |
oerheks | i would wait | 02:35 |
oerheks | see releasenotes | 02:35 |
guiverc | the 24.04.1 status page I'd also read before using `-d`, as it lists the blocker bugs (crossed out ones being fixed) | 03:00 |
iconoclasthero | is there a separate launchpad bug tracker for the installer? | 03:19 |
iconoclasthero | i seem to remember that was a thing. | 03:19 |
iconoclasthero | as for not knwoing what i'm talking about... i was running subwhatever to set up the install parameteres and it just randomly closed. | 03:19 |
iconoclasthero | it did not install. | 03:19 |
iconoclasthero | there's not much more to say than that. | 03:19 |
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gabriel_ | Does anyone trully give a shitand not merely posing? | 04:19 |
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hg680p | hi | 10:49 |
hg680p | iam from indonesiA | 10:49 |
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BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:04 |
mkou | on boot my wi-fi is connecting to each available network / requesting password. How to stop that? | 13:36 |
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alexfu | having an issue with my ubuntu server not being able to resolve local hostnames on my network. if i re-link /etc/resolv.conf to /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf then i am able to resolve local hostnames but i dont want to have to do this for every ubuntu server on my network. any ideas? | 15:32 |
tomreyn | shouldn't it be pointing there in the first place? | 15:45 |
alexfu | tomreyn from what i can tell, this is how the /etc/resolv.conf file should be linked... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1624320/comments/59 | 15:47 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1624320 in Ubuntu RTM "systemd-resolved appends 127.0.0.53 to resolv.conf alongside existing entries" [Undecided, New] | 15:47 | |
tomreyn | alexfu: this comment does not seem to discuss whether /etc/resolv.conf should be a file or a symbolic link (and where it should point to, if so) | 15:50 |
tomreyn | that's unless you interpret "/etc/resolv.conf is entirely managed by systemd" as "/etc/resolv.conf is a symbolic link to /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf" | 15:50 |
tomreyn | my expectation for current ubuntu releases would, however, be exactly this: /etc/resolv.conf is a symbolic link to /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf | 15:52 |
tomreyn | what you write, however, sounds like that's not the setup you have on your servers | 15:52 |
tomreyn | (unless overridden by local configuration) | 15:55 |
bynarie | test | 16:15 |
ubuntu-cinnamon | psycopath | 16:28 |
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eelstrebor | i can't seem to shut down 2 systemd services even though i use systemctl stop <service> and systemctl disable <service> - they still attempt to start on a reboot | 17:38 |
leftyfb | you need to disable them as well | 17:38 |
leftyfb | oh, sorry, missed that part | 17:39 |
leftyfb | eelstrebor: what services? | 17:39 |
leftyfb | are they wanted or required by any other service or timer? | 17:39 |
eelstrebor | openvpn | 17:39 |
oerheks | using mask prevents accidental start | 17:39 |
leftyfb | you said 2 services | 17:39 |
eelstrebor | it's 2 openvpn services (different providers) | 17:40 |
eelstrebor | that i no longer sunscribe to | 17:40 |
leftyfb | so openvpn@service1.service and openvpn@service2.service ? | 17:41 |
leftyfb | systemctl list-dependencies openvpn@service1.service | 17:42 |
leftyfb | also see if it got installed as an upstart service that's starting it | 17:43 |
eelstrebor | a lot output for dependencies | 17:44 |
leftyfb | delete the service files for the services you want gone | 17:46 |
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caretaker22 | hello | 21:01 |
caretaker22 | someone here ? | 21:02 |
caretaker22 | pls respond | 21:03 |
caretaker22 | i dont wanna be alone | 21:03 |
caretaker22 | guess imma be alone forever | 21:03 |
caretaker22 | goodbye | 21:03 |
Ratman5005 | Running Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. Just recently I am now running into an issue where a mounted drive keeps stealing focus of other windows. For example I will be typing something in another application and the mounted drive in the left column will 'bounce' and steal focus from the window where I am typing. | 21:48 |
JanC | Ratman5005: sounds like a loose USB connection maybe, or a power issues where it doesn't get enough power temporarily, causing the drive to be unmounted & then re-mounted? | 22:08 |
JanC | I don't have nautilus (default file manager) installed on this machine, but I think there is an option in the preferences where you can disable the "pop up file manager for new removable drive" feature | 22:09 |
JanC | if you are familiar with the command line, this should work: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount-open false | 22:36 |
JanC | Ratman5005: ^ | 22:36 |
enigma9o7 | it should work even if you dunno what you're doing | 22:38 |
oerheks | never noticed stealing focus | 22:38 |
JanC | well, you at least need to know where to type that :) | 22:38 |
JanC | stealing focus might depend on where it pops up & where the mouse is & such :) | 22:39 |
oerheks | what gnome extentions installed? | 22:40 |
JanC | and I'm not sure why that "don't popup Files" isn't just an option in the GUI to be honest | 22:40 |
JanC | (or maybe I'm missing something, but I can't seem to find it...) | 22:41 |
oerheks | if so, it should do it once | 22:41 |
oerheks | all i find are cinnamon/mint issues | 22:43 |
roy | i have a strange problem with sss sockets | 22:47 |
roy | i don't know what to do :-((( | 22:47 |
roy | if i cry does it solve itself? | 22:47 |
oerheks | if it is your homework, yes | 22:47 |
roy | it's not homework it's the servers | 22:48 |
roy | of the entire mutliregion | 22:48 |
roy | the sss daemon allows access through remote databases, using ldap | 22:50 |
roy | instead of just local files | 22:50 |
oerheks | no idea about sss, ask in #ubuntu-server too? | 22:50 |
roy | Oh, I will try | 22:50 |
roy | thank you | 22:50 |
oerheks | but it is friday support, be patient until monday 🤪 | 22:51 |
roy | lol | 22:53 |
roy | it's such a specfic issue though, i doubt anyone will help anyway | 22:53 |
roy | not many have experience with sss | 22:54 |
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enigma9o7 | snakes? | 23:14 |
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