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| abhishek | h | 01:56 |
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| josh_ | Hi, I am having an issue... currently using ubuntu 24 and my screen keeps on turning black randomly..sometimes it goes to the logon screen with the same noticeable pattern, any help is greatly appreciated? | 02:46 |
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| toddc | josh_: have you tried a differnt monitor cables as a test? I have seen both | 02:48 |
| tomreyn | in case josh_ will return - they asked the same question previously today, got responses, and more questions, which (so far?) went unanswered https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2024/08/21/%23ubuntu.html#t15:13 | 02:54 |
| tomreyn | https://termbin.com/4625 was their kernel log, showing a *lot* of suspend entry + exits | 02:56 |
| toddc | tomreyn: thanks I always start with the basics but yes looks like a bigger issue | 02:58 |
| tomreyn | also just 4 GB RAM and intel integrated graphics | 02:59 |
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| militantorc | what is NetworkManager-wait-online.service | 05:01 |
| militantorc | it takes 10-30s per boot | 05:05 |
| lonejack | I would like to inform about a problem that occours every day I see on my desktop. at every switch on I get the message "Updates"+ "Os updates installed". It is not a problem but, I've to close the notification than I can work but... It's annoying | 05:33 |
| lonejack | I'ev an Ubuntu 22.04 classic | 05:33 |
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| ice9 | how to restart audio in 24.04 without rebooting? | 07:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | maybe try restarting wireplumber.service probably best to reboot tho. | 07:48 |
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| Walex | ice9: "audio" in Linux is not a fuzzy concept unfortunately. | 08:26 |
| Walex | ice9: the actual sound work is done by the ALSA kernel driver and the ALSA library, and neither is a daemon. Then on top of those there may be a sound multiplexer daemon (e.g. JACK, PulseAudio, PipeWire) and the multipler can be stopped and restarted. | 08:28 |
| sam_wong | OBS | 08:28 |
| Walex | ice9: if you change the configuration of the ALSA library you need to restart all processes that use that library. If you want to reset the ALSA kernel driver you need to stop all processes that use '/dev/snd/*' and 'modprobe -r' and then 'modprobe' the kernel module. | 08:29 |
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| lubuntuuser | hello guys | 10:09 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:15 |
| tomreyn | militantorc: a service which waits until Network Manager has brought up a network connection. other services which depend on working network connectivity can depend on this service to not run too early (while the connection is not yet established). | 13:13 |
| alamond_milk | anyone here ? | 13:59 |
| leftyfb | only 1096 people | 13:59 |
| alamond_milk | that ain't much :( | 13:59 |
| leftyfb | alamond_milk: what can we help you with? | 14:00 |
| alamond_milk | i am having issues with my integrated dvd reader, i don't know a lot about dvd burning, currently using brasero to write files. How can I acces those ? | 14:01 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !dvd | 14:03 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 14:03 |
| alamond_milk | thank you ! will i be able to burn files to it using the file manager ? | 14:03 |
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| rangert | Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus died for our sins and rose from the dead to Give us eternal life. If believe in Jesus Christ and ask Him to save you. He will give the free gift of eternal life. | 14:39 |
| Guest79 | CRThaze: hi | 14:41 |
| nemo | Hey. Minor ubuntu question. I'm used to apt upgrade upgrading my kernel and dist-upgrade normally only being for major updates (it also removes older kernels). I was mildly surprised then when a couple of days ago, after apt upgrade, rebooting, then apt dist-upgrade, as well as removing a kernel, ubuntu did a minor kernel update. from 6.5.0.41 to 6.5.0.42 | 14:43 |
| nemo | reviewing the changelog it seems to just be some netfilter stuff | 14:43 |
| nemo | anyone have any idea why that would have required dist-upgrade? | 14:43 |
| tomreyn | are you on 23.10? | 14:48 |
| tomreyn | i'm looking at https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-meta_6.5.0.44.44/changelog but there's no 6.5.0.42 mentioned there. | 14:50 |
| nemo | tomreyn: no. 22.04 | 14:58 |
| nemo | https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/linux_6.5.0-42.42/changelog | 14:58 |
| nemo | tomreyn: it's not a huge deal. apart from fact I hadn't noticed at the time since I'm not used to that happening in dist-upgrade, so I had to check the log to see if it was anything I cared about (it wasn't) since I have to schedule reboots off-hours due to people caring deeply about their Jira server running 😃 | 14:59 |
| nemo | (off-hours these days being 8PM because timezones) | 14:59 |
| tomreyn | you could use kernel livepatch | 15:03 |
| tomreyn | other than that, i could only theorize about what was happening then. maybe -42 was an upgrade then, but installing it required removing something else. or it came from a different repository, such as -proposed | 15:06 |
| nemo | hmmm | 15:07 |
| nemo | I probably should not be on proposed if I am. lemme check | 15:07 |
| nemo | am not *whew* | 15:07 |
| nemo | waaaaait a second | 15:09 |
| nemo | I totally misread that log entry O_O | 15:09 |
| nemo | it was a *downgrade* ! | 15:09 |
| tomreyn | ah, so 42 was probably pulled and thus you got thrown back to .41 | 15:10 |
| nemo | oh. wait. no. | 15:10 |
| nemo | tomreyn: sorry for messing you up. god. I don't know what's with me today | 15:10 |
| nemo | let me literally type out the text so I don't do that again | 15:10 |
| tomreyn | :) | 15:10 |
| nemo | from history.log 😃 | 15:10 |
| tomreyn | you can even copy and paste to a pastebin | 15:10 |
| nemo | Upgrade: linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04:amd64 (6.5.0.41.41~22.04.2, 6.8.0-40.40~22.0.4.3) | 15:10 |
| nemo | tomreyn: eh. they frown on that, and odds are, block it | 15:10 |
| nemo | I could get around it but.. | 15:11 |
| nemo | anyway. | 15:11 |
| nemo | apparently I fail both at reading minors and majors | 15:11 |
| nemo | so. all is explained. it was a major upgrade. | 15:11 |
| tomreyn | those numbers are pretty similar, yes. it always helps to see logs. | 15:12 |
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| Guest74 | Hi quick question, I updated my computer after a few months without internet yesterday and it's been very freeze, is there some known bad update | 16:31 |
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| lotuspsychj3 | Guest74: wich ubuntu release are you on, and wich kernel version? | 16:41 |
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| Guest74 | lotuspsychj3: Ubuntu 22.04, plasma 5.24.7, kernel 6.5.0-28 | 17:07 |
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| lotuspsychj3 | Guest74: kubuntu or ubuntu with plasma? | 17:09 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !info linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04 jammy | 17:14 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04 (6.8.0-40.40~22.04.3, jammy): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta-hwe-6.8. Size 3 kB / 23 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, ppc64el, s390x.) | 17:14 |
| Guest74 | Ubuntu sith plasma | 17:15 |
| Guest74 | With | 17:15 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !uptodate | Guest74 lets try this first | 17:16 |
| ubottu | Guest74 lets try this first: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. | 17:16 |
| lotuspsychj3 | Guest74: + the full-upgrade part | 17:17 |
| Core9709 | fug, client closed after saying Ubuntu with plasma, if you replied I didn't getvit | 17:20 |
| Core9709 | switched to a proper client now | 17:20 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !uptodate | Core9709 lets try this first | 17:20 |
| ubottu | Core9709 lets try this first: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. | 17:20 |
| Core9709 | !upgrades | 17:22 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade | 17:22 |
| lotuspsychj3 | Core9709: try the regular updates + full-upgrade part first | 17:23 |
| lotuspsychj3 | Core9709: feel free to use a !paste if you are unsure and need help of the volunteers | 17:37 |
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| rokam | Hi, I am working on a much more complicated network setup now. I managed to route traffic and setup virtualization network and bridges and so on ... but I struggle with one problem more related to the user side .... | 18:33 |
| rokam | if I setup a default gateway in the ipv4 config in the ubuntu vm gui, the gateway is not saved? | 18:33 |
| rokam | do I need to pass something else than an ipv4 address? | 18:33 |
| rokam | I can enter a gateway in the gui but after clickin save the gateway is just deleted | 18:34 |
| rokam | can I edit in the shell what the GUI is supposed to do? | 18:36 |
| rokam | I will now set a default route in the netplan config instead of setting a gateway in the gui? | 18:37 |
| mdaniels5757 | Hi! Is there a reason https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html hasn't been updated in the last few days? There definitely have been phased updates in the meantime... | 18:39 |
| rokam | netplan apply caused | 18:40 |
| rokam | systemd-networkd is not running, output might be incomplete. | 18:40 |
| rokam | Failed to reload network settings: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.network1.service not found. | 18:40 |
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| PeGaSuS | help! I have Windows and Ubuntu (dual boot) installed. I booted into Windows to install updates and now that I'm trying to boot into Ubuntu I'm having a "Verifying shim SBAT data failed: Security Policy Violation" | 20:18 |
| PeGaSuS | any ideas how to fix this? | 20:18 |
| sarnold | yeah hold on a sec | 20:18 |
| PeGaSuS | I had absolutely 0 issues until today | 20:18 |
| xangua | read something about that in my feeds PeGaSuS | 20:19 |
| sarnold | PeGaSuS: the "what now?" section near the end has advice https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/08/a-patch-microsoft-spent-2-years-preparing-is-making-a-mess-for-some-linux-users/ | 20:19 |
| xangua | https://news.itsfoss.com/windows-breaks-linux-dual-boot/ PeGaSuS | 20:19 |
| PeGaSuS | thanks folks! | 20:19 |
| leftyfb | wait, "However, this mechanism was meant to run with devices only running Windows" ... but they had a "fix" for systems running grub but should only have been applied to systems only running Windows???? | 20:23 |
| leftyfb | as usual though, the solution is to always disable security boot | 20:24 |
| PeGaSuS | I'll be surprised the day that M$ does something right :x | 20:25 |
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| PeGaSuS | the problem seems to have been fixed. once again, thanks! | 20:30 |
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| JuanMa | Hola | 21:18 |
| JuanMa | a | 21:20 |
| JuanMa | hello? | 21:20 |
| JuanMa | English or spanish? | 21:21 |
| dorado | hola | 21:22 |
| JuanMa | qBO | 21:22 |
| dorado | si se logro | 21:23 |
| JuanMa | si se pudo | 21:23 |
| leftyfb | !es | JuanMa | 21:23 |
| ubottu | JuanMa: En la mayorÃa de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 21:23 |
| dorado | miniatura miniatura | 21:23 |
| JuanMa | English or spanish? | 21:23 |
| dorado | m o h? | 21:23 |
| JuanMa | Hola | 21:23 |
| dorado | hjb | 21:23 |
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| de-facto | Ubuntu 24.04 "apt upgrade" "The following upgrades have been deferred due to phasing" lol wth does that mean? do i need a phaser to fix this? | 22:24 |
| de-facto | is my system broken now? | 22:25 |
| de-facto | upgrades rolled out in phases to avoid breaking everyone simultaneously? | 22:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates | 22:32 |
| ravage | You see a lot of them because of the upcoming 24.04.1 release | 22:36 |
| adrian_ | hi everyone. i have a question about lubuntu!! | 22:38 |
| enigma9o7 | Sweet. Feel free to share it with the group. | 22:38 |
| adrian_ | ok thank you very much enigma | 22:39 |
| adrian_ | well. how can i change the "fire" image symbol on the xscreensaver login screen?? please | 22:39 |
| enigma9o7 | 99% sure that's hard coded, thats in xscreensaver itself, not something added by ubuntu or lxqt | 22:42 |
| enigma9o7 | So unless you want download source, modify, and rebuild it... | 22:42 |
| enigma9o7 | Does lubuntu use lightdm? or sddm? I ask because maybe you could use light-locker instead if its lightdm. | 22:44 |
| sarnold | adrian_: it's been years since i've run it, but the xscreesaver-settings program might have a field for the image. maybe you could swap out the image using dpkg-divert? that's kinda gross though.. | 22:44 |
| adrian_ | enigma9o7: really?? hard coded?? does that mean that it's not a ubuntu thing? hmm i have no programming experience so that will be hard. but thank you so much anyway!! | 22:49 |
| adrian_ | oh also i have another question but this one is about lxqt itself | 22:50 |
| enigma9o7 | Yeah, its not an ubuntu thing. That's in xscreensaver itself. The popup when you first start it manually, and the login screen from lock. It is not using an external file from the package, I just double checked (the two images in /usr/share/pixmaps aren't used by it, and thats the only seperate images in the package) | 22:50 |
| enigma9o7 | If you're ever in sanfrancisco, maybe if you stop by jwz's club you can ask him :) | 22:51 |
| adrian_ | alright thank you. | 22:52 |
| adrian_ | by the way. is lxqt a taiwanese desktop environment?? i've read the wikipedia article and github repo and while there are a few american contributors. it seems that it was originally made by a taiwanese person. is this kind of dangerous?? (i.e government tracking etc) | 22:54 |
| enigma9o7 | there is a seperate #lubuntu channel I believe where people are obviously far more likely to be familiar with lxqt than here, but you're still welcome to ask it here if you want, but probably this channel is best for ubuntu-desktop (gnome) and non-desktop related questions/issues | 22:54 |
| adrian_ | ok thank you!! | 22:54 |
| enigma9o7 | Yeah pcmanfm is from taiwan. | 22:54 |
| enigma9o7 | Dunno how that would make it dangerous tho. | 22:55 |
| enigma9o7 | errr pcman himself, doh. | 22:55 |
| enigma9o7 | the 'fm' came out automatically when i typed. | 22:55 |
| adrian_ | oh wait is that why it's called pcman file manager?? | 22:55 |
| enigma9o7 | clonezilla also has origins in taiwan, and people trust it with their entire disk image :) | 22:56 |
| enigma9o7 | Yes, that's why it's called that. | 22:56 |
| adrian_ | oh ok thank you. i was just kind of worried because of the whole chinese government tracking stuff and etc. like that's why tiktok almost got banned in the u.s | 22:56 |
| adrian_ | but to be fair tiktok isn't open source at all | 22:57 |
| sarnold | the taiwanese govt is much more privacy oriented than the chinese communist party | 22:57 |
| ravage | tiktok was almost banned because only mark zuckerberg is allowed to steal your data 🙂 | 22:57 |
| adrian_ | by the way. can i talk about gnome here?? because ubuntu does use gnome albeit modified!! | 22:58 |
| ravage | well. actually we are already way off topic | 22:59 |
| ravage | bur feel free to use #ubuntu-discuss | 22:59 |
| adrian_ | ok thank you | 22:59 |
| adrian_ | hi. what happens if i keep using ubuntu 22.04 even after the expiration date?? | 23:32 |
| sarnold | you stop getting security and bug fixes | 23:33 |
| adrian_ | but i can keep using the repo and downloading flatpak and etc?? oh oh!! | 23:34 |
| adrian_ | it's just that i'm having a very big problem with the app center in xubuntu 24 | 23:35 |
| sarnold | "keep using the repo" well kinda, at some point the packages will be moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com | 23:35 |
| sarnold | and flatpak packages may be compiled for newer kernels | 23:35 |
| adrian_ | oh you're right.. | 23:36 |
| adrian_ | thank you!! | 23:36 |
| enigma9o7 | You can also register with canoncial for esm updates, to keep getting security fixes and stuff for another 5 years after it goes EOL. I still have a system on 18.04 with ESM working fine.... | 23:41 |
| enigma9o7 | For flatpak I did have to use their ppa tho, the version provided by ubuntu no longer works with latest runtimes. | 23:42 |
| enigma9o7 | And ubuntu's firefox stopped updating after version 113, I had to add Mozilla's repo.... alternatively I probably coulda installed the snap. | 23:44 |
| ravage | Ubuntu Pro does not help that much on the flavors | 23:46 |
| ravage | The support for the desktop packages ends after 3 years | 23:47 |
| ravage | So you may still get updates for the main repo but not for anything specific to the flavor | 23:48 |
| Geo | Hi, upgrading an ubuntu 20 machine, I get the error "The repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-security stable/updates Release' no longer has a Release file." Can anyone point me in the right direction to correct this? | 23:56 |
| arraybolt3 | Geo: What version of Ubuntu is it? 20.04, or 20.10? (Ubuntu 20 is unclear.) | 23:57 |
| arraybolt3 | also, it looks like you added the Debian repos to your machine at some point | 23:58 |
| arraybolt3 | which is a Very Bad Idea | 23:58 |
| Geo | 20.04 | 23:58 |
| arraybolt3 | do you remember why exactly you enabled Debian's repository on Ubuntu before, and what all you installed from it? | 23:58 |
| arraybolt3 | also did you pin it so that you wouldn't accidentally get updates from it? | 23:58 |
| Geo | This came on the install, and exists only in sources.list.d/debian-stable.list.distUpgrade | 23:59 |
| Geo | I assume its something upstream | 23:59 |
| arraybolt3 | did someone else install this machine for you? | 23:59 |
| Geo | it's a provider-managed install | 23:59 |
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