| arraybolt3 | Ubuntu *never* comes with anything other than official Ubuntu repos enabled out of the box. If you have deb.debian.org added, someone did something fatally wrong to the machine. | 00:00 |
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| arraybolt3 | At this point, you should probably ask your provider to do a clean install for you. Upgrading is dangerous enough as it is, and your machine has weird repos enabled that may cause upgrading to completely break the system. | 00:00 |
| arraybolt3 | or if you're allowed to, you should probably clean install the machine yourself. Upgrading is not going to work well here. | 00:01 |
| arraybolt3 | (to be clear I assume you mean upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04) | 00:01 |
| arraybolt3 | (if you're just trying to get updates to install though I'd still probably clean-install the device to get the weird repos properly fixed. There's no other *good* way to fix them.) | 00:01 |
| oerheks | debian sources in ubuntu, good luck | 00:03 |
| Geo | to clarify; the only reference to this path is in that debian-stable.list.distUpgrade file. Nothing at all in the normal sources.list . What is that doing? | 00:10 |
| oerheks | why mixing distros? | 00:10 |
| oerheks | no reason to do so, reinstall, good luck | 00:11 |
| adrian_ | The following upgrades have been deferred due to phasing: | 00:33 |
| adrian_ | what does that mean please?? | 00:33 |
| oerheks | !phased | 00:34 |
| ubottu | Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info. | 00:34 |
| oerheks | sure bing would found the answer | 00:34 |
| adrian_ | so i just have to wait?? alright!! | 00:35 |
| oerheks | yes, or onstall them manually | 00:36 |
| oerheks | c/install | 00:36 |
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| omega_doom | When i try to remove a package then i get "Removing some package .. Failed to execute child process “dbus-launch” (No such file or directory)" What can i do yo fix it? | 03:43 |
| rbox | install the package that installs dbus-launch | 03:43 |
| omega_doom | I tried to install “dbus-launch”but have similar error because package manager tries to remove this package before installing dbus-launch. :) | 03:45 |
| rbox | what did you do to break your systme this much | 03:46 |
| omega_doom | I installed a bad package/ | 03:47 |
| rbox | what? | 03:47 |
| omega_doom | It is some vpn that i was suggested to download in install via dpkg. Turns out this package is outdated and doesn't work. | 03:49 |
| omega_doom | Now i get "installed some-vpn package post-removal script subprocess returned error exit status 1" then i try to remove it. And when i try to install "dbus-launch" then this script runs again before installation. I am stuck. | 03:52 |
| omega_doom | Is it possible to install a package without removing others? | 04:07 |
| enigma9o7 | Depends on the package. If it lists that it conflicts or replaces something, then no. | 04:09 |
| enigma9o7 | omega: next time, dont use dpkg to install random debs, use apt as it'll deal with dependencies. | 04:10 |
| enigma9o7 | (istead of "dpkg -i filename.deb" do "apt install ./filename.deb" | 04:11 |
| mybalzitch | ty | 04:28 |
| omega_doom | I installed dbus-launch but now have this error "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files". I cannot send a notification as root. sudo notify-send 1 gives me same error. How to fix it? | 04:39 |
| omega_doom | Yeah. i removed this broken package! First i installed “dbus-launch” manually but "apt download" all its dependencies and after that using dpkg -i. But notify-send didn't want work with root. I run sudo //usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon and then i could purge that bad package. A lot of fuss! | 05:11 |
| omega_doom | But i am still puzzled if notify-send should work under root or not. | 05:13 |
| TheKeeper | does anyone know how can i change the DNS server in ubuntu 24? when i change it in resolv.conf after reboot the namespaces replaced. | 05:41 |
| Guest4787 | hello | 06:07 |
| webchat972 | Hello! | 06:20 |
| webchat972 | Anyone around for a quick question? | 06:21 |
| toddc | !ask | webchat972 | 06:22 |
| ubottu | webchat972: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 06:22 |
| webchat972 | Thanks ubottu! My mistake! I am trying to diagnose a connection issue, and I have been searching the web, but found you guys, so thought I would try here! Anyway, on Ubuntu Server 24.04, I am trying to troubleshoot a sporadic network connection. pings sometimes work, but seem to mostly fail. Are there any quick and easy systemctl restarts or | 06:27 |
| webchat972 | diagnostic commands I could potentially run? | 06:27 |
| webchat972 | (Gateway pings perfectly) | 06:27 |
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| vlt | webchat972: I would reduce the number of involved machines, check if ping still fails from host A to B when directly connected with just one cable and what tcpdump says ... | 07:16 |
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| webchat972 | Thanks vlt, will try | 07:57 |
| gebbione | hi, after a recent update i cannot see the analog output in the devices for the sound in ubuntu 22 ... thus the audio does not work. I have tried a few things like https://askubuntu.com/questions/1423121/no-sound-in-ubuntu-22-04-1-lts-after-upgrading-from-20-04-lts but this did not work and not sure on what else to try | 08:52 |
| JanC | gebbione: do you know what packages were part of that update? | 10:05 |
| gebbione | JanC, not sure but i found out i had the jack plugged in the wrong output and then the right device came up. So it must have just been a problem due to the jack being in the wrong sound output | 10:06 |
| JanC | so your problem is solved now? | 10:07 |
| gebbione | yes thank you | 10:08 |
| JanC | gebbione: next time you fix something yourself, it's a good thing to let the channel know you did | 10:17 |
| lotuspsychj3 | +1 | 10:18 |
| NateDoge | https://imgur.com/a/UK0IyGi | 10:26 |
| lotuspsychj3 | not in this channel please NateDoge | 10:28 |
| WeeBey | help. my laptop keeps crashing hard after either sleep or, it seems, after idling. I left the lid open over night. The filesystem gets mounted as read only and I don't have any logs to find out why. :-( | 10:44 |
| lotuspsychj3 | WeeBey: your ubuntu release and kernel version please? | 10:45 |
| WeeBey | lotuspsychj3, 24.04; 6.8.0-41-generic | 10:46 |
| lotuspsychj3 | did you get crashes recently, or on other kernels too WeeBey ? | 10:47 |
| WeeBey | This has happened before. Often I felt it came after some kernel upgrade but after a restart, it usually came back. Now it's been every day for about 6 days. | 10:48 |
| WeeBey | *after a restart, it got fixed or didn't come back** | 10:49 |
| lotuspsychj3 | WeeBey: also check your /var/crash dir, see if crashes exist there | 10:49 |
| WeeBey | lotuspsychj3, it's empty | 10:49 |
| JanC | unlikely after remount-ro | 10:49 |
| lotuspsychj3 | ok | 10:49 |
| zaibatsu | hi this is just a test | 10:50 |
| zaibatsu | am i visible? | 10:50 |
| WeeBey | this is the only thing I see when it crashes: https://i.postimg.cc/9Fb30Gv0/2147483648-212438.jpg | 10:50 |
| WeeBey | repeated messages about unable to write logs | 10:50 |
| zaibatsu | anybody? | 10:51 |
| WeeBey | It's basically this same error but I didn't clone anything. https://community.frame.work/t/replaced-nvme-now-i-get-read-only-filesystem-sometimes-on-wake/25385/6 | 10:51 |
| JanC | WeeBey: it could be a hardware problem like overheating (try to clean out dust from your computer) or bad RAM (you can run a memory check overnight to try to detect those) | 10:52 |
| WeeBey | JanC, hmm. Maybe bad ram.. Yeah, that's a good point. | 10:52 |
| lotuspsychj3 | we see you zaibatsu | 10:52 |
| JanC | or bad disk | 10:52 |
| WeeBey | I was thinking of the SSDs (2x in the laptop) but they seem ok. | 10:52 |
| zaibatsu | great thanks | 10:52 |
| zaibatsu | have a nice day everyone | 10:52 |
| JanC | WeeBey: that on-screen output is basically the system saying it can't write logs because the FS is read-only, so you are losing the logs that could help debug this... :-/ | 11:01 |
| JanC | if that happens it might still be possible to get logs from the kernel buffer with dmesg before the system crashes fully | 11:02 |
| JanC | e.g. try to switch to another console, log in there, and run dmesg (probably needs sudo) | 11:05 |
| WeeBey | JanC, ugh. I don't think I see much in dmesg. Just ACPI errors but I think those are forever errors from weird bios implementations. | 11:05 |
| WeeBey | JanC, system is unresponsive when it hangs so no dmesg access | 11:06 |
| WeeBey | to run a memory test, shoudl I try 'pcmemtest' or something while system is running ? | 11:07 |
| JanC | in 24.04 'memtest86+' is the most up-to-date nowadays, I think (the old memtest86+ & pcmemtest merged their features to become the new memtest86+) | 11:10 |
| JanC | but yes, something outside the OS works best | 11:10 |
| lotuspsychj3 | maybe share your full dmesg WeeBey | 11:13 |
| lotuspsychj3 | you never know the volunteers find something relevant | 11:13 |
| JanC | dmesg from a new boot would not have the errors that caused the crash, of course, but maybe there are errors that could suggest something, I guess... | 11:14 |
| WeeBey | correct | 11:15 |
| WeeBey | ok, maybe I'll start with a disk check. | 11:15 |
| JanC | another option is to put logs on another partition/disk & hope _that one_ doesn't go RO :) | 11:15 |
| WeeBey | If I live boot, can I run a disk check on my SSDs even if they're both encrypted ? | 11:16 |
| WeeBey | JanC, hmm, may be crazy enough to work. :D | 11:16 |
| JanC | depends what you mean by a disk check? SMART? fsck? | 11:17 |
| WeeBey | fsck | 11:17 |
| WeeBey | smart seemed ok | 11:17 |
| WeeBey | i mean, technically, i should be able to scan my 2nd SSD since it's not mounted ? | 11:18 |
| JanC | no (excessive) read errors or relocated sectors? | 11:18 |
| JanC | when you use LUKS you will have to unlock that before you can fsck a filesystem on it, which might be more or less complicated depending on how it's implemented (if it's just a password to unlock like most use, it's probably easy) | 11:20 |
| WeeBey | JanC, :-( mkay, thanks so much! I'll try to find more info. | 11:24 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:14 |
| wizard1 | hi i installed burp suit file using sh command how can i uninstall it? | 12:15 |
| ravage | You hope that they provide information about it | 12:15 |
| ravage | If not you need to reverse engineer that install script | 12:16 |
| wizard1 | ravage: are you here now? | 12:19 |
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| DocMors | one question is 'in' a valid command in bash and if so what is it suppose to do. If I type it in a shell I get "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `in'" that is different to "command not found" | 14:01 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: yes, it is | 14:03 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: https://linuxconfig.org/bash-scripting-tutorial | 14:03 |
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| leftyfb | DocMors: https://linuxconfig.org/bash-scripting-tutorial#:~:text=how%20to%20use.-,Bash%20for%20loop,-This%20script%20will | 14:03 |
| leftyfb | one example of it's use | 14:03 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: also /join #bash for more in-depth questions about bash | 14:04 |
| DocMors | leftyfb, thanks but is this "in" documented anywhere. Not by example but explicitly? | 14:07 |
| DocMors | can't find it whith which or in manpages | 14:08 |
| DocMors | also --help doesn't do any good | 14:08 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: it's an aspect of loops and case statements | 14:10 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Looping-Constructs.html | 14:10 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Conditional-Constructs.html | 14:11 |
| beginner | hello everyone | 14:14 |
| DocMors | leftyfb, yes that's what I could dig up but it's not explicitly mentioned anywhere. For example 'if' you find clearly mentioned but in is only mentioned implicitly | 14:14 |
| beginner | my name is beginner | 14:14 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: "in" isn't a standalone command. It's an aspect of loop and case statements | 14:15 |
| DocMors | yes and it's not even on the list of reserved words | 14:16 |
| DocMors | I need a t-shirt to fight for its rights! | 14:16 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Looping-Constructs.html#index-for | 14:16 |
| leftyfb | it's there in the syntax for "for" loops. It's a syntax, not a standalone command | 14:17 |
| DocMors | :) I know full well what it does but it's not showing the deserved respect | 14:18 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: that's like saying -l as part of the ls commmand doesn't get respect | 14:18 |
| DocMors | the -l is explicitly documented | 14:19 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: either way, you have the documentation for it and have stated that you understand it's use | 14:19 |
| DocMors | leftyfb, the use was not in question. It's just odd that almost everything is explicitly documented but 'in' is not. I was wondering whether I had missed any sources but that seems not to be the case. | 14:20 |
| DocMors | So lets get on the barricades for the 'in' | 14:21 |
| leftyfb | DocMors: /join #bash , you might get a better explanation | 14:21 |
| DocMors | I joined there and thanks for channel :) | 14:22 |
| younder | try sudo snap install sketch | 14:44 |
| younder | It provides examples of the use of the most common commands in a short form | 14:44 |
| younder | Sorry the command is ''cheat' | 14:46 |
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| pa | not sure where to ask so i try here: ubuntu 22.04, custom vpn enabled: networking from command line works (ping, nslookup, w3m, even apt and snap). Firefox and chromium do not. i disabled ipv6 and dns over https in firefox but didnt help | 15:35 |
| pa | any idea what i could check? | 15:35 |
| pa | routing table is quite a mess, but if it works from the command line.. | 15:36 |
| ravage | "custom vpn" sounds suspicios | 15:36 |
| pa | paloalto global protect | 15:37 |
| ravage | maybe try https://github.com/yuezk/GlobalProtect-openconnect | 15:38 |
| pa | ravage, you think it's vpn's fault? | 15:39 |
| pa | w3m yahoo.com (for example) works alright | 15:39 |
| ravage | if your system stops working after you connect to the VPN.. probably? | 15:39 |
| pa | system works, firefox doesnt | 15:39 |
| lotuspsychj3 | there's also a free riseupVpn snap if you like | 15:40 |
| ravage | i dont know why gui apps dont work but i cant help with any proprietary software i dont use really | 15:40 |
| pa | good point, let me try another gui app | 15:41 |
| lotuspsychj3 | riseup-vpn 0.21.11-109-gbf709b5 leapsnaps classic RiseupVPN, anonymous VPN. Powered by Bitmask. | 15:41 |
| ravage | how das that help with his paloalto account? | 15:42 |
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| pa | sso falkon works.. | 15:42 |
| lotuspsychj3 | oh i missed that part | 15:42 |
| ravage | firefox and chromium are probably both snaps | 15:43 |
| pa | good point, let me check that | 15:43 |
| pa | indeed | 15:43 |
| pa | let me try native firefox | 15:43 |
| ravage | i dont know how the fact that it is a snap would affect connectivity | 15:44 |
| ravage | but you never know with strange vpn clients | 15:44 |
| pa | also, windows client on windows does not stop windows firefox from working.. now, that doesn't help a lot, but still.. | 15:45 |
| ravage | last time i checked Microsoft had not adopted snap 🙂 | 15:46 |
| ravage | but i would give the openconnect a try | 15:46 |
| ravage | probably better than the one you get from the vendor | 15:46 |
| ioria | pa firefox -> about:config -> set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true | 15:48 |
| pa | ioria: done | 15:49 |
| ioria | pa then try to disable ipv6 as a whole; sudo sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 ; and restart networkd or NetworkManager | 15:52 |
| pa | aha good tip, thanks! | 15:52 |
| ioria | ok | 15:53 |
| pa | like this? sudo service networkd-dispatcher restart | 15:55 |
| ioria | nope | 15:55 |
| ioria | sudo systemctl restart systemd-networkd | 15:55 |
| pa | thanks trying | 15:55 |
| pa | doesnt seem to help.. | 15:56 |
| pa | maybe reboot | 15:56 |
| ioria | if you use NM sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager | 15:57 |
| pa | doesnt seem to help | 16:00 |
| pa | trying deb firefox now | 16:00 |
| pa | yep this one works.. | 16:06 |
| leftyfb | pa: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1aqnnyh/firefox_122_dns_problems_in_ubuntu_2204_with_vpn/ | 16:07 |
| pa | leftyfb, thanks! yes i suspected a dns issue.. apparently that one not using resolv.conf but mighty resolved, that i supose vpn client cant really mess with | 16:10 |
| pa | thanks for the help! | 16:19 |
| glenn | how can i start a service in a batch file | 16:28 |
| gordonjcp | glenn: can you eliminate the XY problem, and describe what you're trying to do? | 16:29 |
| glenn | i want to start a service | 16:29 |
| gordonjcp | glenn: okay, from the beginning, try to describe what you're trying to do | 16:30 |
| leftyfb | glenn: what release of ubuntu are you running? | 16:31 |
| desolate030 | hey guys, I just got a hetzner vps (ubuntu noble on arm64) and their package mirrors throw a lot of errors. How do I add a repo mirror for ubuntu/noble on arm64? | 16:35 |
| desolate030 | I found this page but there are no instructions: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/noble/arm64 | 16:36 |
| leftyfb | desolate030: ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports | 16:38 |
| profe | hola | 16:52 |
| desolate030 | leftyfb: thanks already, how do i add the signkey? i tried importing http://ports.ubuntu.com/project/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg but that didn't work | 16:52 |
| leftyfb | desolate030: can you share your sources.list and the error you are getting when you run: sudo apt update ? | 16:56 |
| desolate030 | leftyfb: https://bpa.st/A6MQ here's a paste of sources and output | 16:59 |
| leftyfb | uh | 17:00 |
| leftyfb | first, why do you have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources? What is the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ? | 17:00 |
| desolate030 | leftyfb: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | 17:01 |
| desolate030 | # Ubuntu sources have moved to the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources | 17:01 |
| desolate030 | # file, which uses the deb822 format | 17:01 |
| leftyfb | !paste | desolate030 | 17:01 |
| ubottu | desolate030: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 17:01 |
| ravage | ubuntu.sources is the default in 24.04 | 17:02 |
| leftyfb | seriously? | 17:02 |
| desolate030 | yup | 17:03 |
| ravage | but that image really seems to be messed up | 17:03 |
| ravage | let me check a fresh arm64 noble container | 17:04 |
| ravage | https://termbin.com/5oep <-- default sources for an amd64 lxc container | 17:05 |
| ravage | and /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg has md5 8132968e5883c7ac4ed0703b971d5917 | 17:06 |
| ravage | which is part of ubuntu-keyring | 17:06 |
| leftyfb | at least it's a bit cleaner now | 17:06 |
| leftyfb | without all the comments that is | 17:06 |
| desolate030 | ravage: thanks a ton, this works! | 17:07 |
| ravage | \o/ | 17:07 |
| ravage | leftyfb: you can still use the old format | 17:08 |
| leftyfb | good to know | 17:08 |
| leftyfb | being able to specify the keys is nice though | 17:08 |
| ravage | you could do that before | 17:09 |
| ravage | but it really looks cleaner in multiple lines | 17:09 |
| ravage | im just happy it is not yaml 😄 | 17:09 |
| leftyfb | this is pretty clean https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xtYd89fNzK/ | 17:11 |
| leftyfb | it's basically how I've been doing it | 17:11 |
| desolate030 | ravage: whats wrong with yaml? | 17:11 |
| ravage | it is great for automation | 17:11 |
| ravage | horrible to manually edit | 17:11 |
| ravage | try to edit a netplan config | 17:12 |
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| desolate030 | ravage: tbh i just use pycharm/vscodium via ssh | 17:12 |
| ravage | leftyfb: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/element-io-archive-keyring.gpg] https://packages.element.io/debian/ default main | 17:12 |
| ravage | for the signing part | 17:12 |
| ravage | i guess we will just get uses to the multi line formar | 17:13 |
| ravage | *format. its fine | 17:14 |
| leftyfb | ravage: I use jinja2 templates for automation ;) | 17:14 |
| desolate030 | I gotta say if multiline means theres a dict like mapping of keys and values I'd prefer this over "cryptic/complicated" oneliners | 17:15 |
| desolate030 | I'm coming from rhel/centos/alma and have little to none experience with deb/ubuntu. When entered "apt upgrade -y" just now I got the following message: "The following upgrades have been deferred due to phasing". Searching the internet got me all kinds of different recommendations. Should I configure apt to include phased updates? | 17:18 |
| ravage | usually there is a reason for phases updates | 17:19 |
| ravage | you will get them soon | 17:19 |
| ravage | if everything is going ok | 17:19 |
| ravage | you can force it one time with "sudo apt upgrade <list of packages held back>" | 17:20 |
| JanC | phased updates just means they are not pushed to everyone at the same time, and in case there suddenly come a lot of bugs during an update, they can also stop upgrades for others to investigate if the update is the reason | 17:20 |
| ravage | if you feel adventurous | 17:20 |
| ravage | but its usually a good idea to wait if you care about a stable system | 17:20 |
| desolate030 | okay thanks for the input guys :) | 17:21 |
| JanC | usually just waiting is best indeed, unless you know that you really really need that update :) | 17:22 |
| JanC | desolate030: with "apt policy <packagename>" you can see how far the fasing is currently | 17:23 |
| JanC | *phasing* | 17:24 |
| desolate030 | JanC: just out of curiosity, let's say cve's are coming up (like for ssh lastly). Is the phasing still a thing or are emergency patches deployed outside of this? | 17:25 |
| ravage | no | 17:26 |
| ravage | security updates dont have phasing | 17:26 |
| desolate030 | okay good to know, cheers | 17:26 |
| JanC | https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/about-apt-upgrade-and-phased-updates has some useful documentation | 17:26 |
| desolate030 | JanC: thanks | 17:26 |
| ravage | https://ubuntusecuritypodcast.org/episode-233/ | 17:27 |
| ravage | good episode to learn about them | 17:27 |
| ravage | and a oood podcast in general | 17:27 |
| JanC | or apparently https://documentation.ubuntu.com/server/explanation/software/about-apt-upgrade-and-phased-updates/ is the new location for that | 17:27 |
| desolate030 | JanC: +1 for dark mode ^^ | 17:30 |
| JanC | also: when "apt policy <packagename>" says 0% phased that means upgrades were stopped for some reason, so I wouldn't force an upgrade then :) | 17:30 |
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| sybariten | Hey hey | 18:26 |
| sybariten | Imagine that i had a long key phrase or maybe a PW that's hard to remember, and I know that I'm going to need to use this, whenever I'm setting up some things on new machines | 18:26 |
| sybariten | Let's say I'm not too worried about security really | 18:27 |
| leftyfb | sybariten: this sounds like a #security question | 18:27 |
| sybariten | Well, they are gonna hate it, obviously | 18:27 |
| sybariten | which is why i try here | 18:27 |
| leftyfb | what is your ubuntu question exactly? | 18:28 |
| sybariten | What would be a sane way to store such a phrase... "somewhare". So that i could get it on to the terminal, perhaps via curl or something, but preferably without needing to log in to another system altogether. Basically storing it unsecurely | 18:28 |
| leftyfb | sybariten: I would suggest using ansible to automate deployments which has a "vault" system for encrypted strings that you can use anywhere in the deployment | 18:29 |
| sybariten | Ah okay no that is probably far, _far_ above the ambitions for these inane or measly use cases | 18:30 |
| leftyfb | sybariten: or use a 3rd party tool like 1password and it's cli to retrieve passwords | 18:31 |
| sybariten | then i suppose i need to install stuff... i was hoping to just do something on the command line on a stock system | 18:32 |
| sybariten | I think basically i need a general IT discussions channel on libera that isn't specialized in one single direction cause they will all sneer at my question :) | 18:32 |
| ravage | Try #bad-it-ideas | 18:34 |
| enigma9o7 | maybe simplify your life and use a phrase you can remember. | 18:35 |
| enigma9o7 | Correct Horse Battery Staple comes to mind | 18:35 |
| sybariten | enigma9o7: heh, it's auto generated but thank you. And looks like yours but five times longer | 18:40 |
| bigshot00 | do i need to disable encryption and turn secure boot off if i want to install ubuntu on laptop>? | 18:41 |
| enigma9o7 | Who makes your GPU? | 18:41 |
| leftyfb | bigshot00: define "encryption" | 18:42 |
| ravage | And you can always use full disk encryption that the installer offers | 18:42 |
| leftyfb | bigshot00: I always suggest disabling secure boot. It serves no valid purpose for the end user | 18:42 |
| bigshot00 | leftyfb, bitlocker | 18:45 |
| leftyfb | bigshot00: only if you need to access the files on Windows from Ubuntu | 18:45 |
| leftyfb | otherise, Ubuntu shouldn't care that Windows is encrypted | 18:46 |
| bigshot00 | leftyfb, but when i made persistent ubuntu usb using rufus and booted into it and shutdown and restarted computer i was asked to enter recovery key | 18:46 |
| bigshot00 | leftyfb, could it be coz i unplugged usb? | 18:47 |
| leftyfb | no idea | 18:48 |
| leftyfb | sounds like a secure boot issue though | 18:48 |
| bigshot00 | leftyfb, yeah | 18:48 |
| bigshot00 | anyone? | 18:48 |
| leftyfb | but disabling that might also break bitlocker ... not sure | 18:48 |
| bigshot00 | leftyfb, where to find password if i want to access windows files from linux? | 18:49 |
| leftyfb | bigshot00: with bitlocker enabled? I don't think you can | 18:49 |
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| bigshot00 | leftyfb, so i should disable secure boot then install ubuntu on nvme ssd and then see if i get asked for recovery key? | 18:50 |
| leftyfb | bigshot00: I don't know if disabling secure boot is going to break bitlocker. You'll need to research that | 19:00 |
| esv | hey, I am sorry I have asked this before but I can never remember how to download a specific package from the web. so, I would really appreciate if anyone would tell me how to download individual packages from the web. 22.04. | 19:16 |
| esv | I guess https://packages.ubuntu.com/name would do it. | 19:17 |
| McParen | yes, thats at least how i would do it. | 19:18 |
| leftyfb | esv: download for what purpose? | 19:18 |
| esv | one sec pls... | 19:20 |
| esv | Hello, a customer "updated" their vm but the /boot directory is empty, I am using a virtual machine (without internet access) to recover it, hence I need to download the packages manually and shove them into the broken vm | 19:25 |
| leftyfb | esv: first, you shouldn't need any additional packages to recover the boot directory. You could use something like a boot recovery/rescue iso or just reinstall grub with sudo grub-install /dev/XXX | 19:27 |
| leftyfb | 2nd, if the customer fubar'd their VM, they should be willing and able to wipe it, reinstall(or ask you for a reinstall) and restore from backup | 19:28 |
| esv | oh , /boot was empty, no kernel or initramfs | 20:30 |
| esv | I wish they did | 20:31 |
| esv | oh... initrd.img my bad. | 20:34 |
| gebbione | hi, i am experiencing an error that cannot get fixed on a Asus Laptop. Ubuntu has worked for a few days then after some updates i got this error https://paste.linux.chat/?3529711c3a2d29e7#GvApzvBg5LZ6wXAXHCN17jTVwwYzCP8jdBMGw2HaJRoB I have tried updating, also i don't think i am using the hwe kernels but currently i am on 6.80-41.41 . Any ideas what i can try? | 20:35 |
| topcat001 | It is fairly easy to read bitlocker files from Linux. For example, dislocker. | 20:36 |
| gebbione | anyone could confirm what is the current kernel supposed to be on ubuntu 24? | 20:41 |
| LuckyMan | 6.8.0 | 21:11 |
| LuckyMan | you can see your kernel by doing uname -a | 21:12 |
| enigma9o7 | They just said they were on 6.80-41.41 which I assume is actually 6.8.0-41 | 21:13 |
| enigma9o7 | gebbione: are you having a wifi issue? Or what is the actual problem? | 21:13 |
| gebbione | i get a blackscreen, the error is in the pastebin, i can repost it. Now i installed mainline to force the use of another kernel but it leads to a new error | 21:14 |
| gebbione | enigma9o7, | 21:14 |
| gebbione | enigma9o7, the error is shown here https://paste.linux.chat/?3529711c3a2d29e7#GvApzvBg5LZ6wXAXHCN17jTVwwYzCP8jdBMGw2HaJRoB | 21:16 |
| enigma9o7 | the paste i see is stuff about ilwifi.... | 21:16 |
| gebbione | it is but i have no clue on what to fix | 21:17 |
| enigma9o7 | same one you already posted | 21:17 |
| gebbione | indeed | 21:17 |
| gebbione | there is no apparent wifi error | 21:17 |
| gebbione | i can manually connect with CLI | 21:17 |
| enigma9o7 | Well that is unlikely related to black screen, which is almost always video related. What kinda GPU do you have? | 21:17 |
| gebbione | i ll get the info | 21:17 |
| enigma9o7 | And as you suspected kernel update broke something, did you try booting previous kernel from grub advanced options? | 21:17 |
| enigma9o7 | If you're not sure, could pastebin the output from "inxi -G" (which may require installing inxi). | 21:18 |
| enigma9o7 | that'll no only show which gpu, but which driver it's using, which may be save a follow up quesiton | 21:19 |
| gebbione | ok it is intel arc | 21:20 |
| gebbione | i tried the older kernels | 21:21 |
| gebbione | from advanced options | 21:21 |
| gebbione | i ll install inxi | 21:21 |
| gebbione | output from infix -G -> https://termbin.com/u4un | 21:22 |
| gebbione | inxi | 21:22 |
| enigma9o7 | ok it does show no driver is loaded for your gpu | 21:24 |
| enigma9o7 | Which is quite weird, intel stuff should load automatically. | 21:25 |
| gebbione | the weirdest part is that it worked for a few times | 21:25 |
| gebbione | then started giving this error | 21:25 |
| enigma9o7 | I am not familiar enough with how to proceed, but someone here maybe can continue, I believe what you can try is to "sudo modprobe i915" or perhaps something different than i915, and see why it won't load. | 21:26 |
| gebbione | it run without errors | 21:28 |
| enigma9o7 | hmmm weird. try to restart your login manager. `sudo service gdm3 restart` | 21:33 |
| gebbione | it does not look like it made any difference | 21:34 |
| gebbione | also output of echo $? is 0 so it does not error | 21:35 |
| gebbione | but shows no output too | 21:35 |
| gebbione | enigma9o7, would it be worth trying to install drivers manually such as https://dgpu-docs.intel.com/driver/client/overview.html | 21:50 |
| gebbione | also is there like a forum where i can post this question ? | 21:51 |
| enigma9o7 | No, intel drivers should be part of kernel, intel contributes their drivers directly to mainline linux. There is something going on I don't understand, but there are people here far more expert than me, but maybe they already done for the week. | 21:51 |
| enigma9o7 | Yeah, the ubuntu forums would be a good idea to post in. | 21:52 |
| gebbione | if i create a post what other output should i add to provide more debugging other than journal and the inxi enigma9c7 | 21:57 |
| roberto_ | ciao | 22:01 |
| gebbione | going to sleep ... too tired ... i ll try again tomorrow | 22:11 |
| gebbione | thank you enigma9o7 | 22:11 |
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