| JoeBk | BarnabasDK: thanks, I figured it out. | 00:42 |
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| oerheks | יום אחד | 01:35 |
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| rana-muhammad-fa | hello | 03:03 |
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| mozzy3711 | Anyone have a clue why my windows install disappeared and grub didn’t install automatically when I installed Ubuntu? I thought that it did. I partitioned the drive myself so I know windows is still there. But even my BIOS boot selection screen doesn’t have Windows as an option. Once I was able to us | 04:10 |
| mozzy3711 | e Grub Customizer to add it back but can’t remember how to do it. I believe they were both UEFI installs. It was a fresh windows 10 install, rebooted a couple times, then installed Ubuntu (latest LTS). Genuinely confused. | 04:10 |
| enigma9o7 | enable os prober to add windows to grub menu | 04:11 |
| enigma9o7 | assuming you managed to get grub installed later | 04:11 |
| enigma9o7 | as to why grub didnt install automatically perhaps you selected the wrong drive | 04:11 |
| mozzy3711 | Only one drive in play. But I haven’t messed with OS prober before so I will do some research on that - that’s why I love Linux there’s always something out there. | 04:13 |
| enigma9o7 | edit /etc/default/grub and set OS_PROBER=true iirc, then sudo update-grub | 04:13 |
| enigma9o7 | it should tell you right then if it finds windows | 04:14 |
| mozzy3711 | Oh yeah it looks like it was but off between the last time I installed a release. Huh. That makes total sense | 04:14 |
| mozzy3711 | Hmm. Looks like it didn’t find Windows but let me try an actual boot to see what shows up | 04:22 |
| mozzy3711 | Well dang now grub doesn’t even show up lol. Just boots me right into Ubuntu | 04:24 |
| mozzy3711 | Hold…right shift at boot? | 04:25 |
| Bashing-om | mozzy3711: UEFI is escape that grub looks for - spam - very narrow window :D | 04:26 |
| mozzy3711 | Oh I can spam it hard | 04:26 |
| mozzy3711 | Yep. Weird. No windows. | 04:28 |
| mozzy3711 | Ubuntu and memtest. Hmm. | 04:28 |
| mozzy3711 | This is a first for me. May just have to make a windows recovery USB from my server and start over from there. I’m certain it’s a problem between the keyboard and the back of the chair | 04:32 |
| mozzy3711 | Thankfully it’s just my gaming machine so not a huge stressor | 04:33 |
| Bashing-om | mozzy3711: [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD" - says what ? | 04:44 |
| mozzy3711 | Legacy boot on HDD is the response | 04:45 |
| mozzy3711 | @bashing-om: sorry thought I’d @ you | 04:46 |
| mozzy3711 | Bashing-om: | 04:47 |
| mozzy3711 | There we go sorry, IRC on iOS is totally new for me | 04:47 |
| mozzy3711 | Bring me back to the days of mIRC lol | 04:47 |
| Bashing-om | mozzy3711: While UEFI can pick up legacy - the reverse is not true - were me I would reinstall buntu *in* efi mode - beyond my experience to tell how to change the install over to UEFI from a lragacy install. | 04:54 |
| Bashing-om | legacy* | 04:55 |
| mozzy3711 | Understood. No clue how to install it in EFI mode but I bet Google knows. | 04:55 |
| Bashing-om | mozzy3711: How you boot the installer is how it installs - in Bios set to boot EFI only. | 04:56 |
| mozzy3711 | Oooh. Good to know. I’ll track that down in my BIOS settings. Though gigabytes are terrible for BIOS lol | 04:57 |
| Bashing-om | !uefi | mozzy3711 | 04:57 |
| ubottu | mozzy3711: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 04:57 |
| blinky | How do I set sumatrapdf as the default pdf reader on Ubuntu? | 05:01 |
| mozzy3711 | Thank you! I’m going to start with a fresh windows installation and build from there again. | 05:05 |
| Bashing-om | mozzy3711: A plan :D - Windows install first - else will wipe out the buntu boot code - nasty Windows :D | 05:06 |
| xangua | blinky: isn't Sumatra only for Windows? | 05:07 |
| blinky | xangua, no it is availabe on snapstore and usable via wine I guess. | 05:08 |
| blinky | xangua, I have sumatrapdf installed on Ubuntu. The only problem is how to set it as the default for pdf. | 05:09 |
| blinky | xangua, here's the link - https://snapcraft.io/sumatrapdf | 05:24 |
| blinky | do you know how to make it the default pdf reader? | 05:25 |
| xangua | blinky: sorry no, I don't even use wine | 05:38 |
| xangua | Or see the need of Sumatra in Linux, I do use it on Windows | 05:39 |
| blinky | I was looking for cross-platform consistency. | 05:39 |
| blinky | I use it on Windows and was looking to continue on Ubuntu as well. | 05:40 |
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| junyx | How much is enterprise ubuntu? | 06:39 |
| toddc | junyx: https://ubuntu.com/pricing/pro | 06:43 |
| junyx | toddc I saw that. Why are they charging when warthog release (2004) they said ubuntu will be free forever include enterprise ubuntu | 06:44 |
| junyx | including* | 06:44 |
| junyx | warthog documentation says that | 06:44 |
| toddc | ubuntu is free paid pro is support only software is the same and pro is free free for up to 5 machines for personal use 50 if you are a ubuntu member | 06:45 |
| junyx | Thats different than free forever | 06:46 |
| junyx | Oh well | 06:46 |
| junyx | 5 machines is a limit | 06:47 |
| toddc | !pro | junyx | 06:47 |
| ubottu | junyx: Ubuntu Pro is a service offered by Canonical for expanded CVE patching, ten-years security maintenance and optional support. Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free for personal use on up to 5 machines. For details please see https://ubuntu.com/pro and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq | 06:47 |
| toddc | I like the fact that I can build and test a server and then anytime add support if I need it | 06:49 |
| junyx | Thanks toddc | 06:57 |
| toddc | junyx: happy to help | 06:58 |
| gebbione | hello | 08:23 |
| gebbione | black screen problem still present, here is a list of the output and things i tried https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2500132&p=14202135#post14202135 any suggestions on what to try next is welcome | 08:28 |
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| Square | What is the panel, that you see when you click on the date/time on the top bar, called? | 11:37 |
| Square | (where notifications and calendar is showed) | 11:38 |
| lotuspsychj3 | Square: i think, GNOME Shell notification area | 11:41 |
| lotuspsychj3 | not sure what the exact package names | 11:41 |
| lotuspsychj3 | Square: you have an issue around it? | 11:43 |
| Square | lotuspsychj3, no. I was just curious if I could configure it somehow. Like add the ubuntu shipped todo list in there. | 11:54 |
| Square | (...or really one such todo list) | 11:54 |
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| SDDM_probs | Hello, everyone. 1) what was called the app that auto-scanned all the installed OS on the connected HDDs and added them to the bootloader? Also provided a GUI for editing bootloader entries. 2) Can I make the system directly load into a cmd session (instead of a GUI one) from the initial start-up screen, if it hasn't already been configured to do | 15:19 |
| SDDM_probs | that in the OS' config files, and the OS' GUI session can't be loaded ATM? | 15:19 |
| tomreyn | unless you're looking for software provided by ubuntu, such as os-prober, you might be better off asking in #linux | 15:23 |
| SDDM_probs | the problems are occurring on my ubuntu OS, so asking here may nd up being more efficient later on. | 15:26 |
| tomreyn | you can edit (or just remove) grub.cfg so it boots into the grub CLI | 15:34 |
| Infrared_ | That was strange...cups-browsed (if I remember right) was using 100% CPU for no apparent reason, I don't even have printing set up :) It went back to normal after systemctl restart cups, I wonder what caused it in the first place though | 16:08 |
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| youload | hi | 16:41 |
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| numbie | does someone know a alternative for adobe scan? | 19:16 |
| ravage | https://alternative.to/adobe-scan | 19:17 |
| nshirelaptop | wow the minimal install really is minimal-doesn't even have ping lol | 19:25 |
| nshirelaptop | does it forego the gnu coreutils? | 19:25 |
| nshirelaptop | hm I suppose ping isn't a coreutil. guess there isn't anything network related in that list either | 19:27 |
| stradman | so as it happens, I crashed during an ubuntu release upgrade and broke some packages. now I am left fixing them, sudo apt --fix-broken install returns errors and dpkg --configure -a also returns errors, what is my next line of action? | 19:39 |
| toddc | !paste | stradman | 19:40 |
| ubottu | stradman: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 19:40 |
| toddc | post errors | 19:41 |
| stradman54 | sorry dropped out for a sec | 19:44 |
| ChrisA | Hello, I need some help after an upgrade. | 19:44 |
| stradman54 | okay | 19:45 |
| ChrisA | Yesterday, I did an upgrade from ubuntu 16.04 to ubuntu 24.04. | 19:45 |
| ChrisA | (From 16 to 18 to 20 to 22 and 24). | 19:45 |
| stradman54 | dude you are literally me, but a more successful version of me | 19:45 |
| ChrisA | But my unity desktop is broken. | 19:45 |
| stradman54 | i crashed literally on the first step | 19:45 |
| stradman54 | so chris, do you have any kind of gui or is it all stuck? | 19:46 |
| ChrisA | I can log to the gnome desktop and use the desktop and apps. | 19:46 |
| stradman54 | cool, what's the issue then? | 19:46 |
| ChrisA | But when I try to log into the unity desktop, the background shows, but no top bar, no launcher, nothing else. | 19:47 |
| toddc | you may also want to consider a clean install as not all backend parts can be upgraded and a lot of changes have happend since 16.04 | 19:47 |
| ChrisA | I tried uninstalling and purging the ubuntu-unity-desktop packages, and reinstalling them. But no change. | 19:47 |
| ChrisA | I know I could do a clean install, but I would like to keep all my install apps as-is. | 19:48 |
| toddc | !paste | ChrisA | 19:48 |
| ubottu | ChrisA: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 19:48 |
| ChrisA | So that's why I ask here if someone knows what I could be missing. | 19:48 |
| stradman54 | I feel your pai chris | 19:50 |
| toddc | post all errors please so we can see what parts are missing sudo apt update errors or logs ect | 19:50 |
| stradman54 | co incident that even i started upgrading from 16 to 22 today only | 19:50 |
| ChrisA | There are no errors in the packages. | 19:50 |
| ChrisA | I mean, I checked with synaptic package manager. | 19:50 |
| ChrisA | No broken packages anymore. | 19:51 |
| ChrisA | No packages that need to be updated... | 19:51 |
| ravage | try to create a new user. see if that can login | 19:52 |
| ChrisA | I tried that too. | 19:52 |
| ravage | if it works you need to kill all unity related data because migration did not work out | 19:52 |
| stradman54 | I crashed on 16.04 to 18.04 :( | 19:52 |
| ravage | i dont think you will find many unity users here really | 19:52 |
| ChrisA | Even with the new user profile, only the background appears. | 19:52 |
| ravage | in general multiple LTS upgrades are usually not the best idea | 19:53 |
| ravage | backup your files and do a fresh installation | 19:53 |
| ChrisA | Ravage, that's what I suspected. | 19:53 |
| ravage | i usually just backup /home and restore whatever i miss over time | 19:53 |
| ChrisA | For what I can see after launching "top" in another terminal (ctrl+alt+f1), | 19:54 |
| ChrisA | the culprit seems to be the compiz process that tries to launch, but crashes. | 19:55 |
| ravage | have not heard that word in 10 years or so | 19:56 |
| stradman54 | how to resolve this : https://bpa.st/MAOQ | 19:56 |
| ravage | stradman54: backup your files and reinstall. this is really not worth the struggle | 19:58 |
| ravage | even if you resolve this you still have 2 more versions to upgrade | 19:58 |
| stradman54 | ravage it's 100 GB of data, it would be painful to do it file by file :( | 20:00 |
| ravage | use rsync | 20:00 |
| stradman54 | can rsync send all to Gdrive? | 20:00 |
| ravage | uh no idea | 20:01 |
| ravage | gdrive is a propriatary protocol | 20:01 |
| ravage | but im sure someone wrote a wrapper | 20:01 |
| ravage | but could be hard to install that in that state of the system | 20:01 |
| ravage | but im sure you have a backup drive you usually use right? | 20:02 |
| stradman54 | that's why I would be more interested in stabilising the system, i guess I just have to remove the faulty packages | 20:02 |
| stradman54 | ravage no :( this one is a old laptop i haven't fired up in months | 20:03 |
| ravage | then get any external HDD/SSD with a USB connector for your backups | 20:03 |
| ravage | it is worth every $ | 20:04 |
| stradman54 | instead I am paying google :( | 20:05 |
| ravage | i really dont know how to mount google | 20:05 |
| ravage | i know there are tools for it | 20:06 |
| ravage | you may be able to install that from a 24.04 live USB | 20:06 |
| ravage | and copy your files over from there | 20:06 |
| stradman54 | that sounds interesting | 20:06 |
| ravage | https://ostechnix.com/mount-google-drive-using-rclone-in-linux/ | 20:07 |
| ravage | rclone seems to support it | 20:07 |
| stradman54 | ravage just sharing my dpkg output : https://bpa.st/KFVQ , is it even fixable? | 20:10 |
| disgrunt | Is there any documentation for Ubuntu for "advanced users"? | 20:22 |
| disgrunt | Or for System Administrators? | 20:22 |
| leftyfb | disgrunt: not exactly. In what sense? | 20:24 |
| leftyfb | disgrunt: it's best to have a goal in mind and find documentation for that | 20:24 |
| disgrunt | :( | 20:25 |
| leftyfb | disgrunt: what is it you're trying to accomplish exactly? | 20:25 |
| disgrunt | leftyfb: I currently have a custom 22.04 install with it and Windows both encrypted on the same HD using TPM. I am debating upgrading to 24.04 and would like to get the /boot partition encrypted as well. It's also using btrfs and has snap stripped out. Ubuntu is all-in on snap. | 20:29 |
| disgrunt | leftyfb: I'm just trying to get info to be honest. | 20:30 |
| leftyfb | disgrunt: what info exactly? | 20:30 |
| leftyfb | disgrunt: if you ask me, I would wipe ubuntu 22.04 and install 24.04 from scratch if you need it as custom as you have it | 20:31 |
| ravage | The Ubuntu 24.04 installer is not that customizable | 20:32 |
| disgrunt | leftyfb: That's what I would be doing. But the installer does not allow installing Ubuntu and Windows on the same drive with full disk encryption. | 20:32 |
| disgrunt | ravage: Exactly. | 20:32 |
| ravage | So you may not even be able to replicate it on a new installation | 20:32 |
| leftyfb | disgrunt: it will let you encrypt ubuntu entirely | 20:32 |
| ravage | That is still experimental | 20:32 |
| disgrunt | leftyfb: On the same drive as Windows? | 20:32 |
| leftyfb | yes | 20:32 |
| ravage | Never tried it with dual boot | 20:33 |
| leftyfb | you use LVM and encrypt the LVM volume | 20:33 |
| ravage | That still leaves boot unencrypted right? | 20:33 |
| ravage | And that's not his current setup | 20:33 |
| leftyfb | not anymore, no | 20:33 |
| leftyfb | it does it all in one go | 20:33 |
| disgrunt | leftyfb: Does it require me to disable BitLocker before installation? | 20:34 |
| leftyfb | disgrunt: not unless you want to access files on Windows from Ubuntu | 20:34 |
| disgrunt | That's not what the end-user documentation said. | 20:34 |
| ravage | I'm still not 100% confident that all this will just work with the new installer but I may be wrong | 20:35 |
| disgrunt | ravage: That's why I wanted technical documentation. | 20:35 |
| leftyfb | advanced users would just try it out and restore from backup if anything goes wrong | 20:35 |
| ravage | So far it let me down with anything that is not a very default setup | 20:35 |
| disgrunt | leftyfb: I respectfully disagree. | 20:36 |
| disgrunt | Try it and see is horrible advice... RTFM is an acronym for a reason. | 20:36 |
| disgrunt | Thanks all for the input. | 20:36 |
| stradman54 | when installing 24.04, do i need to delete the prev ubuntu 16.04 partition by myself or does it do it by itself? | 20:52 |
| younder | When installing you get the option to delete the old version or keep it. | 20:53 |
| stradman54 | so it just wipes out the old partition and data right? | 20:53 |
| younder | It re-formats the drive and then installs the new version. You can also choose to manually create the partitions. | 20:55 |
| ravage | but yes is has a "wipe everything" option | 20:55 |
| younder | It is probably best to follow a video of a install or written instruction if you have never done it before, just so you know what to expect. | 20:56 |
| younder | Make sure it is the same version as you are installing. 24.04 has a new installer so it is a bit different from earlier versions. | 20:58 |
| stradman54 | I would actually be having the iso on the prev ubuntu install partition not on a usb stick | 20:59 |
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| enigma9o7 | Whoops! Our server is scratching its head! | 21:16 |
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| hanshenrik | ubuntu 22.04 "deluser hans" didn't remove hans from /etc/shadow , isn't it supposed to? | 21:28 |
| hanshenrik | oh actually it did.. but there is a file called shadow- (shadow and a dash?) where it still exist | 21:28 |
| JanC | hanshenrik: see "man shadow" under the section FILES | 21:30 |
| JanC | under the header FILES | 21:30 |
| JanC | (it's a backup file) | 21:31 |
| hanshenrik | ok thanks | 21:31 |
| JanC | probably useful if you use deluser and then suddenly realise that was a mistake :) | 21:32 |
| hanshenrik | good point | 21:32 |
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| marcopolo2 | Why does ubuntu install 535 by default but 550 are also in ubuntu repos? | 23:40 |
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