| mozzy3711 | Is there an easy way to make a fully installed bootable USB for Ubuntu? Or do I just need to partition the USB drive as normal and ensure the boot loader is installed on the USB drive? | 00:01 |
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| toddc | I create a usb install disk per https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop you may use that to install or live but it will not remeber seetings or save data | 00:04 |
| topcat001 | I'm looking to use rr https://github.com/rr-debugger/rr on Ubuntu 22.04 running on a 13th gen Intel. The universe package v5.5 does not support this CPU. However, the latest release v5.8 does and there is a .deb on github. | 00:04 |
| topcat001 | Looking to confirm the .deb on github works on 22.04 | 00:05 |
| toddc | or you can use that usb to ibstall to a usb stick but it will be slow as usb port are speed limited | 00:05 |
| toddc | he left | 00:05 |
| topcat001 | I guess I could try it on my vm :) | 00:06 |
| toddc | topcat001: yes as it is beyond our control | 00:06 |
| oerheks | !hwe] | 00:10 |
| oerheks | !hwe | 00:10 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 00:10 |
| oerheks | works on 22.04, i have 6.8.0-40 | 00:11 |
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| mozzy3711 | Apparently it disconnects every time I close the app. | 00:25 |
| enigma9o7 | weren't you asking how to install ubuntu on usb drive? what disconnects? what app? | 00:37 |
| oerheks | why would an app stay connected? | 00:38 |
| gyroscopepizza | do amd gpus work on ubuntu | 00:43 |
| enigma9o7 | Yes. | 00:43 |
| gyroscopepizza | i always used nvidia but im getting an amd | 00:43 |
| oerheks | sure | 00:43 |
| gyroscopepizza | how do i install the drivers | 00:43 |
| enigma9o7 | You'll have far less complications than nvidia. | 00:43 |
| gyroscopepizza | ah cool | 00:44 |
| oerheks | drivers are in the kernel | 00:44 |
| enigma9o7 | Usually you don' thave to do anything to install the drivers, they're in linux kernel. | 00:44 |
| gyroscopepizza | ah kool ok | 00:44 |
| gyroscopepizza | good to know | 00:44 |
| oerheks | newest nvidia too | 00:44 |
| oerheks | hi end | 00:44 |
| gyroscopepizza | kk | 00:44 |
| topcat001 | Regarding rr debugger, it seems the github deb installs on Ubuntu 22.04 without issue. It's just that perf counters cannot be reliably implemented in the VM, so I'll need to test it later on metal. | 01:07 |
| topcat001 | My main concern was whether the .deb breaks something, which seems to be not the case :) | 01:09 |
| Some_Person | I have upgraded to 24.04, and I have things mostly working, but there's a small mess I'm not sure how to take care of cleanly. I had some PPAs that provided newer versions of certain packages, and some of those packages are still installed. I would like to downgrade all of them to the versions from the 24.04 repos. How can I accomplish this? | 01:34 |
| rbox | ppa purge possibly | 01:36 |
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| Bashing-om | !ppapurge | Some_Person ^^ | 01:37 |
| ubottu | Some_Person ^^: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html | 01:37 |
| Some_Person | Do I need to re-enable the PPA for that tool to work? | 01:43 |
| Bashing-om | Some_Person: Yes - Got to to have the source for ppa-purge to have a handle. | 01:45 |
| Some_Person | Well, this isn't working... apt is wanting to remove a ton of stuff I don't want removed (including things like ubuntu-desktop) | 01:49 |
| Some_Person | I think it's because this annoyingly has PPAs dependent on other PPAs... can purge-ppa take 2 at once? | 01:49 |
| Bashing-om | Some_Person: No idea there :( | 01:52 |
| leftyfb | Some_Person: what version did you upgrade from and how did you upgrade? | 01:53 |
| Some_Person | I upgraded from 22.04 | 01:53 |
| leftyfb | The upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 hasn't been officially released and therefore not recommended | 01:53 |
| Some_Person | I'm aware, but I looked at the outstanding bugs and they didn't look like they would affect my situation | 01:54 |
| Some_Person | I also have a complete backup | 01:54 |
| leftyfb | Some_Person: also, the LTS upgrades always recommends and I could have sworn removes the PPA's. You shouldn't have had the PPA's still enabled | 01:54 |
| Some_Person | It disabled them automatically, but it left some packages behind | 01:55 |
| leftyfb | Some_Person: remove the PPA source files, then run: sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop | 01:55 |
| leftyfb | actually, maybe: sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard ubuntu-desktop | 01:56 |
| Some_Person | That doesn't seem to accomplish anything | 01:57 |
| leftyfb | so what is you're trying to accomplish now? | 01:57 |
| Some_Person | I've gone through and cleaned most of it up manually with Synaptic, but I have some libs from the old PPAs left over | 01:58 |
| Some_Person | these packages, to be specific: heif-gdk-pixbuf, heif-thumbnailer, libheif-plugin-dav1d, libheif-plugin-libde265, libheif1, libsharpyuv0, libwebp7, libwebpdemux2 | 01:59 |
| Some_Person | I just want to switch these to the normal ubuntu versions without removing a ton of other packages | 01:59 |
| rbox | you could try apt --reinstall maybe | 02:00 |
| leftyfb | Some_Person: apt-cache policy heif-gdk-pixbuf look at what version is from the ubuntu repos and then sudo apt install heif-gdk-pixbuf=<version> | 02:00 |
| Some_Person | I feel like there should be simpler ways to deal with this crap, but I'll go through each one and see if apt will be reasonable if I put it all in one command | 02:01 |
| leftyfb | in the case of heif-gdk-pixbuf from 24.04, you would do sudo apt install heif-gdk-pixbuf=1.17.6-1ubuntu4 | 02:01 |
| leftyfb | sudo apt install rmadison && for package in heif-gdk-pixbuf heif-thumbnailer libheif-plugin-dav1d libheif-plugin-libde265 libheif1 libsharpyuv0 libwebp7 libwebpdemux2 ; do version=$(rmadison heif-gdk-pixbuf|awk '/noble/ {print $3}'); sudo apt install ${package}=${version} ; done | 02:03 |
| leftyfb | wait | 02:03 |
| leftyfb | sudo apt install rmadison && for package in heif-gdk-pixbuf heif-thumbnailer libheif-plugin-dav1d libheif-plugin-libde265 libheif1 libsharpyuv0 libwebp7 libwebpdemux2 ; do version=$(rmadison $package|awk '/noble/ {print $3}'); sudo apt install ${package}=${version} ; done | 02:03 |
| leftyfb | there, sorry | 02:03 |
| Some_Person | ah, well I was already close to the end of doing it manually, so this ended up working: sudo apt install heif-gdk-pixbuf=1.17.6-1ubuntu4 heif-thumbnailer=1.17.6-1ubuntu4 libheif-plugin-dav1d=1.17.6-1ubuntu4 libheif-plugin-libde265=1.17.6-1ubuntu4 libheif1=1.17.6-1ubuntu4 libsharpyuv0=1.3.2-0.4build3 libwebp7=1.3.2-0.4build3 libwebpdemux2=1.3.2-0.4build3 | 02:04 |
| Some_Person | thank you for your help | 02:05 |
| prayagraj | hai | 02:31 |
| prayagraj | chaya kudichoo | 02:31 |
| prayagraj | hai | 02:32 |
| prayagraj | good morning | 02:33 |
| Bashing-om | prayagraj: Your ubuntu support question ? | 02:33 |
| prayagraj | yes | 02:33 |
| Bashing-om | !ask | prayagraj | 02:34 |
| ubottu | prayagraj: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 02:34 |
| prayagraj | pinne | 02:34 |
| prayagraj | hello everyone | 02:35 |
| polo | i have the 550 drivers and i play a game on steam and everything runs fine but all of a sudden i get insane lag and i have to restart the game and i dont know why | 03:00 |
| polo | i guess an issue with vram or something | 03:01 |
| stradman | how to backup ubuntu using rclone? | 04:25 |
| stradman | I have the directory of the rclone ready and running | 04:26 |
| stradman | what files should i put in there? | 04:26 |
| enigma9o7 | reading something earlier, pretty sure rmadison is in devscripts, not its own package.... | 04:31 |
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| === Juesto is now known as Juest | ||
| === TWPEagle7 is now known as TWPEagle | ||
| Xedon | Hi, | 07:29 |
| Xedon | Has anyone else had problems with the suspend since kernel 5.15.0-118,119? Kernel 5.15.0-117 works fine. | 07:29 |
| Xedon | Here is an excerpt from my kern.log https://pastebin.com/CnA09sEw | 07:29 |
| Xedon | After I stopped the services nfs-server and rpcbind manually suspend works again. | 07:29 |
| Xedon | Package versions: | 07:29 |
| Xedon | nfs-kernel-server 1:2.6.1-1ubuntu1.2 | 07:29 |
| Xedon | rpcbind 1.2.6-2build1 | 07:29 |
| eipip1eq0 | newly ininstalled ubuntu server on virtualbox, there is networking beween host and guest, but no network to Internet. any idea?/ | 07:52 |
| CosmicDJ | eipip1eq0: which network config (bridged, host-only, ...) did you pick? https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html | 08:09 |
| eipip1eq0 | i set up 3: nat, host-only, bridge | 08:10 |
| eipip1eq0 | 3 adaptors | 08:10 |
| CosmicDJ | why? | 08:11 |
| eipip1eq0 | DNS works | 08:11 |
| eipip1eq0 | just try | 08:11 |
| CosmicDJ | eipip1eq0: maybe using nat *and* bridge makes your routing go crazy... does it work when you use just one? | 08:16 |
| eipip1eq0 | CosmicDJ: just disenabled bridge, still the same | 08:28 |
| eipip1eq0 | i checked ip addr output for NAT adaptor. and compared with the output from another working ubuntu desktop version VM. it seems that the server version is missing 'noprefixroute' option | 08:34 |
| eipip1eq0 | CosmicDJ: that is the only difference I got | 08:35 |
| eipip1eq0 | the problem is how to add that option back | 08:36 |
| CosmicDJ | eipip1eq0: can you ping 8.8.4.4? | 08:37 |
| eipip1eq0 | no. | 08:38 |
| CosmicDJ | eipip1eq0: I have no idea how NAT in VirtualBox works... what happens when you use bridge? | 08:42 |
| eipip1eq0 | CosmicDJ: ok disabled NAT, enabled bridge only. the same: network unreachable | 08:52 |
| eipip1eq0 | i guess the server version setup some kind of prefix route information. but I don't know how to check/set up routing | 08:54 |
| eipip1eq0 | CosmicDJ: | 08:54 |
| ducasse | eipip1eq0: output of 'ip r'? | 08:56 |
| ducasse | the route prefix is fr whether you grab an ipv6 prefix or not | 08:58 |
| prayagraj | hai | 09:02 |
| prayagraj | chaya kudichoo | 09:03 |
| prayagraj | wher are you | 09:03 |
| prayagraj | indina | 09:03 |
| prayagraj | indina | 09:04 |
| prayagraj | hai | 09:04 |
| eipip1eq0 | ducasse: https://pastebin.ai/pp0jk4sak9 | 09:04 |
| eipip1eq0 | 192.168.0.0/16 dev enp0s9 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.56.30 | 09:13 |
| eipip1eq0 | ducasse: the above is from the server version VM. https://pastebin.ai/pp0jk4sak9 is from the desktop version VM | 09:14 |
| CosmicDJ | eipip1eq0: are you sure that's your bridge interface and not the host-only one? | 09:14 |
| eipip1eq0 | CosmicDJ: sorry https://pastebin.ai/pp0jk4sak9 is from the desktop version | 09:15 |
| eipip1eq0 | the server version is missing 2 lines | 09:15 |
| CosmicDJ | eipip1eq0: I can't open that link, our company firewall is blocking pastebin.ai and it's just showing "Loading..." in lynx | 09:16 |
| prayagraj | ai | 09:16 |
| prayagraj | hai | 09:16 |
| prayagraj | hai | 09:17 |
| prayagraj | how are you | 09:17 |
| prayagraj | hai | 09:17 |
| prayagraj | hai | 09:17 |
| prayagraj | hai' | 09:17 |
| prayagraj | hai | 09:17 |
| eipip1eq0 | default via 10.0.2.2 dev enp0s3 proto dhcp src 10.0.2.15 metric 102 | 09:18 |
| eipip1eq0 | 10.0.2.0/24 dev enp0s3 proto kernel scope link src 10.0.2.15 metric 102 | 09:18 |
| eipip1eq0 | 192.168.56.0/24 dev enp0s8 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.56.102 metric 101 | 09:18 |
| eipip1eq0 | this is the working 'ip r' output from the desktop version VM | 09:18 |
| eipip1eq0 | CosmicDJ: | 09:19 |
| eipip1eq0 | CosmicDJ: double checked. the server has bridged mode only. | 09:20 |
| eipip1eq0 | 'ip r' from the server version only output one line: 192.168.0.0/16 dev enp0s9 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.56.30 | 09:21 |
| ducasse | eipip1eq0: the server version has no default route set | 09:27 |
| CosmicDJ | the server version should, like the desktop version, just use DHCP and everything should be up and running... | 09:28 |
| eipip1eq0 | ducasse: how to set it? I have no knowledge about that | 09:28 |
| eipip1eq0 | CosmicDJ: ok. let me test,, | 09:30 |
| gebbione | hi, anyone around who could help dig further blackscreen problems? | 09:34 |
| eipip1eq0 | default via 10.0.2.2 dev enp0s3 proto dhcp src 10.0.2.15 metric 100 | 09:34 |
| eipip1eq0 | 10.0.2.0/24 dev enp0s3 proto kernel scope link src 10.0.2.15 metric 100 | 09:35 |
| eipip1eq0 | 10.0.2.2 dev enp0s3 proto dhcp scope link src 10.0.2.15 metric 100 | 09:35 |
| eipip1eq0 | 26.26.26.53 via 10.0.2.2 dev enp0s3 proto dhcp src 10.0.2.15 metric 100 | 09:35 |
| eipip1eq0 | CosmicDJ: NAT/with DHCP only. still no luck | 09:35 |
| stolen | I am trying to install Ubuntu 22.04. already have a dual boot with windows and 16.04, the installer doesn't show option to install alongside windows. It's either entire disk or manual. What should I do? | 09:54 |
| gebbione | stolen, in the linux channel they suggesting i should not dualboot | 09:59 |
| gebbione | my machine is currently stuck maybe because of this with a blackscreen -> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2500132 | 10:00 |
| gebbione | that does not answer your question but maybe you can see why you should not try to keep it | 10:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | entire disk would remove windows so clearly not that. | 10:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I mean you could upgrade 16.04? | 10:09 |
| stolen | No tried broke the installation on 18.04 to 20.04 | 10:11 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | Hello everyone I have a big problem | 11:35 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | Problem is Ubuntu is using version 24.04 LTS and I cant update it for some reason, I get pings about it but I just cant seen to update it, its wierd | 11:38 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | It keeps saying that "Your Ubuntu is ready for updating!" and yet i cant, is there a way to fix this? | 11:39 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:48 |
| root | hello | 11:49 |
| Hassan01 | hey, I've setup bluetooth with bluetoothctl but gnome-control-manager doesn't show my devices, i'm using i3 if that helps | 12:40 |
| lotuspsychj3 | try blueman Hassan01 see if you can get it working there | 12:41 |
| * wfpkhc transporter beams into the chat room and then waves hello to everyone* | 12:51 | |
| Hassan01 | lotuspsychj3, yeah that works thanks | 12:51 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !yay | Hassan01 | 12:51 |
| ubottu | Hassan01: Glad you made it! :-) | 12:51 |
| * wfpkhc wanders over and sits on the couch* | 12:51 | |
| wfpkhc | Does anyone here know much about ubuntu so that i can pick their brains about the topic? | 12:52 |
| lotuspsychj3 | wfpkhc: this channel is for ubuntu support questions, is yours related? | 12:53 |
| wfpkhc | sort of...is there a channel for social chat about ubuntu? | 12:54 |
| lotuspsychj3 | yes | 12:54 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !chat | wfpkhc | 12:55 |
| ubottu | wfpkhc: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 12:55 |
| wfpkhc | because its not directly related to ubuntu but it is | 12:55 |
| wfpkhc | ok thank you i will go to that room | 12:55 |
| lotuspsychj3 | we also have a; | 12:55 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !discuss | 12:55 |
| ubottu | Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 12:55 |
| * wfpkhc transporter beams to #ubuntu-offtopic* | 12:55 | |
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| weuuuu | Cannot add PPA: ''This PPA does not support noble''. | 13:05 |
| weuuuu | help!!!! | 13:05 |
| lotuspsychj3 | weuuuu: volunteers cant advice much on external ppa's | 13:06 |
| weuuuu | okay | 13:06 |
| === el_entranador is now known as THEDEMONSLAYER | ||
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| === el_entranador is now known as THEDEMONSLAYER | ||
| ashafq | I am trying to run ubuntu 24.04 over remote desktop. I am able to log-in correctly, but /usr/bin/gnome-control-center crashes with segfault: https://paste.debian.net/1327584/ | 14:06 |
| nteodosio | ashafq, what happens if you use GDK_DEBUG=vulkan-disable gnome-control-center? | 14:10 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: same segfault | 14:11 |
| ashafq | Same thing with file manager for gnome. But, I can't get the terminal logs.. What is the binary called anyway? | 14:11 |
| nteodosio | Hmm I think I got it wrong ashafq, try with GDK_DISABLE=vulkan | 14:11 |
| nteodosio | The file manager is nautilus. | 14:12 |
| ashafq | same segfault | 14:12 |
| nteodosio | What version of Ubuntu is that? | 14:12 |
| nteodosio | Sorry 24.04 | 14:13 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: I am over remote-desktop btw, if that makes a difference | 14:13 |
| nteodosio | ashafq, it shouldn't... I'd still try some other pathways, maybe other GSK_RENDERER? https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/running.html#gsk_renderer You could file a bug against gnome-control-center | 14:15 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: hah! cairo worked! GSK_RENDERER=cairo | 14:16 |
| nteodosio | Nice! | 14:17 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: now, do I have to do this all the time in order to launch a gnome app? | 14:17 |
| howudodat | if I am in my home directory and I type in sudo rm /var/crash /* ( I know stupid me) I'm just curious what it removed that ls would return with /usr/bin/ls: No Such file or directory (sudo returns /usr/bin/sudo: No Such file or directory). I dont need to fix this, will just re-image the SBC, but I'm curious what I blew away | 14:18 |
| nteodosio | ashafq, well, you could always add it to your enviornment permanently. Not sure how this is done in the "modern world", in my setups I'd go for /etc/environment or $HOME/.profile. | 14:18 |
| nteodosio | Of course that is just a work-around and the bug stands. | 14:19 |
| === TastyWiener9582 is now known as TastyWiener958 | ||
| ashafq | nteodosio: maybe it's a feature ;) | 14:20 |
| nteodosio | howudodat, without -r that would do nothing. Now /* is every file in your system. You were unlucky, I think had you just typed / rm would refuse to do that. | 14:20 |
| howudodat | it was without -r, and /* should have only done all the files in / | 14:21 |
| howudodat | which should only be directories...so I dont get it | 14:21 |
| nteodosio | Oh indeed, but that removes symlinks too. | 14:22 |
| nteodosio | So you kinda wrecked /lib->/usr/lib | 14:22 |
| nteodosio | If that was all should be easy to fix by just creating the links manually. | 14:22 |
| nteodosio | If you want to try it you are probably just 4 symlinks away: https://termbin.com/6twe | 14:23 |
| howudodat | ah yes, it's the symlinks....that makes sense | 14:23 |
| nteodosio | s/4/5/ | 14:24 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: gdm is blank when I launch rdp | 14:24 |
| nteodosio | Heh | 14:24 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: how do I disable hardware acceleration with gdm? | 14:24 |
| nteodosio | Well there has been a lot of breakage in autopkgtests relating to Vulkan. | 14:24 |
| nteodosio | I do not know. | 14:24 |
| howudodat | unfortunately I am further than that away...I cant ssh back in, the hard drive is epoxied onto the SBC and I am several hundred miles from this card, but maybe on Wednesday when I am physically next to it I can login on the console | 14:25 |
| nteodosio | ashafq, do you want Gnome or want to give something else a try? | 14:25 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: as long as it works, I am OK with it. as long as I get some gui | 14:26 |
| nteodosio | So you can start xrdp service in the host in a simple window manager. | 14:27 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: like xfce? | 14:27 |
| nteodosio | Could be. Icewm will be faster. | 14:27 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-xrdp-on-ubuntu-20-04/ | 14:27 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: icewm could be, but I will need some way to mount smb shares without CLI at times :) | 14:28 |
| nteodosio | Ah so, yes whatever floats your boat of course, a proper desktop environment will make all that easier. | 14:29 |
| nteodosio | Now that doesn't mean you will escape the segfaults in Gnome programs. | 14:29 |
| ashafq | nteodosio: installing xfce with lightdm | 14:30 |
| ashafq | let's hope that works.. | 14:30 |
| nteodosio | Let us know (: | 14:30 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | Hi! I am having trouble with ubuntu | 14:32 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | it wont update versions | 14:32 |
| leftyfb | THEDEMONSLAYER: what release? Please use a pastebin service to paste the errors | 14:32 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | let me check | 14:33 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | it says version 24.04 | 14:34 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | and the error said "Ubuntu error" "UPDATE=BAD MALWARE SOFTWARE DETECTED" | 14:35 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | idk why its saying that | 14:35 |
| leftyfb | THEDEMONSLAYER: please pastebin the command you are running and the entire output of that command including the error message | 14:36 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | ok | 14:37 |
| leftyfb | THEDEMONSLAYER: please run this in it's entirety and paste the resulting URL here: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release; sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ) | nc termbin.com 9999 | 14:41 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | ok | 14:41 |
| leftyfb | THEDEMONSLAYER: copy everything I typed starting with and including ( and paste it into your terminal | 14:42 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | it keeps saying "MALWARE DETECTED" | 14:42 |
| leftyfb | THEDEMONSLAYER: take a picture and paste it to imgur.com | 14:43 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | and now it crashed | 14:45 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | fack | 14:45 |
| leftyfb | THEDEMONSLAYER: ok, please troll elsewhere | 14:45 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | hang on | 14:45 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | ok so you wont help | 14:45 |
| leftyfb | THEDEMONSLAYER: this is a support channel. We don't have time for people making things up | 14:45 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | what your sayin- ok | 14:45 |
| THEDEMONSLAYER | fine fine | 14:45 |
| NDPMacBook | Wow. | 14:45 |
| NDPMacBook | Now he's in #linux | 14:46 |
| toddc | his ip traces to State of Arkansas hmm | 14:51 |
| ananke | they're a student accessing libera from school. not the first time trolling either. | 14:55 |
| leftyfb | ananke: moments over | 14:56 |
| ananke | leftyfb: huh? | 14:56 |
| leftyfb | lets stay on topic | 14:56 |
| ananke | leftyfb: I was responding to toddc, perhaps you should start there | 14:56 |
| abdallah | h | 15:26 |
| tito18 | hi guys, my computer is slow when i play 3d gamers | 15:38 |
| tito18 | *games | 15:38 |
| tito18 | it has 16 gig ram and a 5 giga DDR 5 video card | 15:40 |
| tito18 | help me please | 15:41 |
| youload | wine 9 ? | 15:41 |
| leftyfb | tito18: which gpu drivers are you using? | 15:41 |
| leftyfb | tito18: and yeah, are these 3d games running through wine? | 15:41 |
| ravage | do you even run Ubuntu? 😛 | 15:41 |
| tito18 | Wine? No | 15:42 |
| ravage | you really need to give some details here | 15:42 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !details | tito18 | 15:43 |
| ubottu | tito18: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. | 15:43 |
| tito18 | ok, I'll look more details. Thanks | 15:45 |
| tito18 | I have little knowledge of hardware and linux. | 15:47 |
| leftyfb | tito18: open the "additional drivers" application on your machine | 15:50 |
| oerheks | hi end | 15:53 |
| tito18 | I'll do it later. I'm working at the moment | 15:54 |
| deadrom | hi | 16:01 |
| deadrom | in /var/lib/snapd/snaps there are some pretty large files, like gnome-42-2204_176.snap and 172.snap. I get those are snap packages, but why is 172 still around if that's not the latest? | 16:02 |
| leftyfb | deadrom: https://itsfoss.com/clean-snap-packages/ | 16:03 |
| leftyfb | deadrom: they are there in case you want to revert to the previous version | 16:03 |
| leftyfb | same reason there are multiple kernel packages installed | 16:03 |
| ravage | sudo snap set system refresh.retain=2 | 16:04 |
| ravage | default is 3 i think | 16:04 |
| ravage | so that should save some space | 16:04 |
| leftyfb | ravage: you should read the link I posted | 16:05 |
| ravage | why? i know the command already | 16:05 |
| leftyfb | ravage: the default is already 3 | 16:07 |
| leftyfb | sorry, 2 | 16:07 |
| oerheks | indeed 2 | 16:08 |
| ravage | on older installs it definitely was 3 | 16:08 |
| ravage | but i prefer the new default for sure | 16:08 |
| leftyfb | which is why I suggested to read the link :) | 16:08 |
| leftyfb | or the official documentation: https://snapcraft.io/docs/managing-updates#refreshretain | 16:09 |
| deadrom | hm. I got 2x 42, 2x46, 2x gnome-3. so keep 1 active and 1 old. | 16:09 |
| leftyfb | right | 16:09 |
| deadrom | why is 42 around when there is 46? | 16:09 |
| leftyfb | compatibility? | 16:09 |
| ravage | different core snaps use different fnome snaps | 16:10 |
| ravage | *gnome | 16:10 |
| deadrom | I'm going to need a bigger drive. | 16:10 |
| ravage | more space is always good | 16:11 |
| leftyfb | I have 41 snaps installed. My /var/lib/snapd/snaps is only 8GB | 16:11 |
| ravage | im at 14GB but that includes like the libreoffice snap | 16:13 |
| PeGaSuS | !eol | 17:30 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 17:30 |
| Eccentric81 | anybody noticed any difference in steam proton compatability vs different linux distros? | 17:32 |
| Eccentric81 | some maybe use different window manager settings or display driver repos or something | 17:32 |
| Eccentric81 | would you say ubuntu has higher games compatability? all equal? | 17:33 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: try it | 17:33 |
| Eccentric81 | protondb doesnt specifically state any differences | 17:34 |
| Eccentric81 | but different kernels and updates for other distros i saw some | 17:34 |
| Eccentric81 | solid launch titles on say steamdeck become crashy | 17:34 |
| Eccentric81 | so then if say fedora 39 to 40 less or more games.. how would you rate ubuntu? | 17:35 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: you are welcome to try ubuntu and see for yourself how it runs | 17:35 |
| Eccentric81 | the reason i wanted to ask about ubuntu | 17:35 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: this is an ubuntu support channel. We're not going to make comparisons with other distro's. We can only support potential problems with ubuntu | 17:35 |
| Eccentric81 | is for any video or audio or games you need the only kind of kernel that exists realtime | 17:35 |
| Eccentric81 | ubuntu famously has some realtime free kernels | 17:35 |
| Eccentric81 | available | 17:36 |
| bibinetanya | https://justpaste.it/Barbra_Streisand_Speedy_Gonzalez | 17:36 |
| Eccentric81 | where as some distros its not as uhh easily accessible or developed for it | 17:36 |
| bibinetanya | Alright, you Tom and Jerry fan, listen up. Once upon a time, Speedy and Jerry met up again, but this time they were at the mansion of the one and only Barbra Streisand. She was a huge fan of the two ratones and had invited them over for a special performance. | 17:36 |
| bibinetanya | 17:36 | |
| bibinetanya | Speedy and Jerry were more than happy to oblige and soon found themselves in a private room with Barbra. She was wearing a stunning red gown, her long blonde hair cascading down her back. She had a wicked grin on her face as she pulled out a bottle of tequila and offered them each a shot. | 17:36 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: realtime kernels aren't really going to help you with games | 17:36 |
| kk1234 | Eccentric81 most modern distros disable their compositor when in fullscreen for better performance, it's called unredirect fullscreen | 17:36 |
| leftyfb | !op | bibinetanya | 17:36 |
| ubottu | bibinetanya: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 17:36 |
| bibinetanya | They downed the shots and then Barbra led them over to a giant chaise lounge. She instructed them to climb up onto it and then laid back, spreading her legs wide open. Speedy and Jerry looked at each other in amazement as they saw what was in front of them - Barbra's cooter, glistening with her juices. | 17:36 |
| bibinetanya | 17:36 | |
| bibinetanya | Without hesitation, they dove in, exploring every inch of her warm, wet pussy. They licked and sucked, their tongues darting in and out of her, driving her wild with pleasure. Barbra moaned and writhed beneath them, her hands grasping at the cushions as they continued to pleasure her. | 17:36 |
| Eccentric81 | kk1234 thats something i loved hearing | 17:36 |
| bibinetanya | After a while, Barbra couldn't take it anymore. She grabbed Speedy and Jerry by the ears and pulled them up towards her face. "I'm gonna cum, you dirty little ratones!" she screamed before shoving them back into her gefilte fishhole. And with that, she let out a loud moan and exploded in a spray of orgasmic juices. | 17:37 |
| kk1234 | yet another bot oh god | 17:37 |
| Eccentric81 | is that what windows called 'low latency windowed mode' where you can autohdr and hdr in window and desktop? | 17:37 |
| bibinetanya | Speedy and Jerry were expelled from her cooter, flying across the room and crashing into a wall. They lay there, panting and exhausted, covered in Barbra's cum. But they couldn't stop grinning from ear to ear - they had just given one of the most famous women in the world the ride of her life. | 17:37 |
| kk1234 | Eccentric81 could be | 17:37 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: install ubuntu and let us know if you run into any issues with it | 17:37 |
| delsol_ | ......... what the actual fuck did I just read? | 17:38 |
| Eccentric81 | the thing is lower latency especially in the kernel like realtime | 17:38 |
| Eccentric81 | can make brighter lights and reflections and shiny metallics when render | 17:38 |
| Eccentric81 | and games run millions faster | 17:38 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: install ubuntu and let us know if you run into any issues with it | 17:38 |
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| Eccentric81 | your mouselook is smoother | 17:38 |
| el | delsol_: ChatGPT forced to write bad slashfic | 17:38 |
| Eccentric81 | the thing is.. they kinda want you to pay for realtime kernel or go to a recording studio or stream gaming | 17:38 |
| Eccentric81 | it sux so the free ones and the butchered molested fake zen kernel is dumb | 17:39 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: if you're just looking to chat, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic we try to keep this channel specific to providing support to those running ubuntu | 17:39 |
| Eccentric81 | which realtime kernel would you recommend with ubuntu? | 17:39 |
| leftyfb | I wouldn't | 17:39 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: I would recommend you install ubuntu and see for yourself if you are happy with it | 17:40 |
| Eccentric81 | you cant use a computer without it.. ps3 was 0 latency cpu core rest wasnt but its a real super computer can linux cluster! | 17:40 |
| el | or in this case not slash i guess. | 17:40 |
| Eccentric81 | ryzen and all zen is supposed to infinityfabric/cache negative better than 0 | 17:40 |
| Eccentric81 | omniseconds zeptosecond | 17:40 |
| Eccentric81 | you cant computer without it | 17:40 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: again, if you're just looking to chat, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic | 17:40 |
| Eccentric81 | so for it to be worse than ps3 with zen is infinity dumb and gay | 17:40 |
| Eccentric81 | so i want a real 0 zen kernel at least to game like ps3 | 17:41 |
| Eccentric81 | i read ubuntu has some realtime kernels | 17:41 |
| Eccentric81 | but from what i saw.. its not even ps3 | 17:41 |
| Eccentric81 | which would you recommend? | 17:41 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: I would recommend you install ubuntu and see for yourself if you are happy with it | 17:41 |
| Eickmeyer | The Ubuntu realtime kernel is meant for embedded systems. Do not use it in desktop setups. | 17:41 |
| Eccentric81 | like say ... a playstation 3? | 17:42 |
| Eccentric81 | or a ps5? | 17:42 |
| Eccentric81 | you know a kernel is like an FTP login and port for a FTP like copy/edit/write/delete FTP like OS | 17:42 |
| Eccentric81 | that fits on a floppy disk right? | 17:43 |
| leftyfb | Eccentric81: please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat | 17:43 |
| Eccentric81 | FTP.exe dos or BBS dialup baud modem BBS is basically an entire OS on a floppy disk | 17:43 |
| Eccentric81 | for devices and device lists the kernel lists what computer or camera or display it supports | 17:43 |
| Eccentric81 | so same devices means identical exact 100% match OS | 17:43 |
| Eccentric81 | and kernel | 17:43 |
| Eccentric81 | if it isnt the same it means you dont support that device | 17:44 |
| Eccentric81 | and you arent using a computer | 17:44 |
| === shaunabanana5 is now known as shaunabanana | ||
| tomreyn | Eccentric81: if you have an ubuntu support question, you're welcome to ask it here, please keep any meta discussions out of this channel | 17:47 |
| Bombo | hi | 19:04 |
| tomreyn | hello there | 19:05 |
| Bombo | is there a way to get official checksums from remote ubuntu repo? i mean something like debsums but not use locally stored sums in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ | 19:09 |
| ravage | why not just check the signature? | 19:10 |
| Bombo | how would that work? | 19:11 |
| oerheks | there is debsums for that | 19:12 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: what is your end goal exactly? | 19:12 |
| Bombo | to check if nothing is altered | 19:14 |
| ravage | your system will not install altered packages from the ubuntu repos | 19:15 |
| ravage | unless you force it to | 19:15 |
| Bombo | maybe not the system... | 19:15 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: every package has MD5sums | 19:17 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: apt-cache show linux-image-generic | 19:17 |
| oerheks | dpkg -V could do the same | 19:17 |
| Bombo | i could cp ~/myevil/bin/bash to /usr/bin/bash and change the ms5sum in /var/lib/dpkg/info/bash.md5sums, how would i check if i did that? ;) | 19:18 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: auditd and/or tripwire | 19:19 |
| leftyfb | or services like those | 19:19 |
| Bombo | ok where does apt-cache show get its infos from, local files i guess | 19:19 |
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| Bombo | leftyfb: mkay | 19:19 |
| enigma9o7 | from the database you keep up to date with `apt update` | 19:20 |
| enigma9o7 | and fyi you can just `apt show` instead of typing out the -cache | 19:20 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: checking the validity of binaries on your system isn't something that should be done from a package manager | 19:20 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: the md5's are for the packages, not the files installed on your system after the fact | 19:21 |
| Bombo | enigma9o7: what if i altered that database too ;) | 19:21 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: if you want to check if there's been tampering with files on your system, that is not the job of the package manager. Use services like the ones I suggested | 19:22 |
| enigma9o7 | well delete iet and apt update in that case | 19:22 |
| Bombo | leftyfb: ok that's why i asked for remote checksums, maybe if there were a list on ubuntu.com i could use, dl manually + check the files from there | 19:23 |
| Bombo | leftyfb: i'll check these | 19:23 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: use services like the ones I provided | 19:23 |
| Bombo | thx | 19:23 |
| Bombo | leftyfb: i'll check these, thx | 19:23 |
| tomreyn | host intrustion detection systems won't help you after the (potential) fact, though, just into the future. | 19:24 |
| Bombo | hm yes not really what i want | 19:26 |
| younder | I know what you want and you can't get it. The best you can do is to containerize email and mil the most vulnerable services. This is done by the fact they are installed as snaps. The way you would go about is to detect the intrusion and then reinstall that service. In time, hopefully, that the 'jail breakout'. That's the deal. | 19:33 |
| younder | s/mil/mail/ | 19:33 |
| younder | s/that/to avoid that/ | 19:34 |
| tomreyn | how is 'email/mail' the most vulnerable service? | 19:34 |
| younder | It used HTML | 19:34 |
| tomreyn | so do web pages | 19:35 |
| leftyfb | pretty sure email is just above FTP and telnet in terms of vulnerable services | 19:35 |
| younder | yes, they are those vulnerable as well | 19:35 |
| tomreyn | we don't even know what Bombo is/was running, which attack surface there was or is, or what exactly they are worried about. | 19:36 |
| younder | web pages, that is, though ftp and tenet defiantly apply | 19:37 |
| Bombo | i'm running ubuntu. just want to check the integrity of all installed packages. by using a remote set of checksums, because | 19:40 |
| younder | The HTML client's are incredibly complex, so people will finds way of cracking them. Weather it comes from a web server, of email server. | 19:40 |
| younder | Bombo: that is done automatiocally | 19:41 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: the integrity of packages is done automatically. The integrity of the files installed on your system after the fact is done through tools like the ones I posted about above | 19:42 |
| younder | I've used rkhunter in the past. Not sure it is still good. | 19:44 |
| leftyfb | that looks for rootkits, not files being replaced with other malware or malicious scripts | 19:44 |
| Bombo | automatically as in 'when i install it' i guess | 19:47 |
| Bombo | 'when it is installed' | 19:47 |
| leftyfb | bob_x1: that is taken care of | 19:48 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: there's nothing for you to do | 19:48 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: just be careful who you let access your machine | 19:48 |
| Bombo | so nothing could have happened between the installation of all packages/ubuntu/the OS and the point when i installed auditd or tripwire | 19:50 |
| leftyfb | Bombo: unlikely | 19:51 |
| leftyfb | unless you let someone else access your machine | 19:51 |
| tomreyn | a lot could have happened, you just don't have an audit trail, so you will not ever know | 19:51 |
| tomreyn | there are forensics, but they are a *lot* of effort and can be misled and intrusions usually try to cover up after themselves. but, yes, generally speaking, this is unlikely. | 19:53 |
| younder | Also under installation you get a option to encrypt your disk. This helps protect against someone who ha physical access to your machine and copes the system with knopfix or something like that. | 20:12 |
| drg99 | Hi, how do I run a juju action? | 20:25 |
| enigma9o7 | What's a juju action? | 20:26 |
| oerheks | what did you find sofar? | 20:26 |
| leftyfb | drg99: there is a dedicated #juju channel | 20:27 |
| drg99 | leftyfb thanks! | 20:31 |
| chonkin | My time synch NTP service is running just fine and is "active". However, the server's clock never becomes synchronized. https://bpa.st/GLUA | 20:46 |
| chonkin | I have heavily researched this problem, finding many people with a similar problem, but nobody with my exact problem. In most troubleshooting scenarios, the user switches to ntp.ubuntu.com and restarts the service. But in my case, I already have ntp.ubuntu.com and it is timing out. | 20:47 |
| chonkin | In the remaining, the person troubleshooting is required to use some other NTP server for their own in-house reasons. | 20:48 |
| leftyfb | chonkin: what type of device is ubuntu installed on? | 20:48 |
| leftyfb | chonkin: are you saying that ntp.ubuntu.com doesn't work but specifying a different ntp server does? | 20:49 |
| chonkin | leftyfb, I have not tried any changes yet. | 20:50 |
| chonkin | the device is a Supermico 1U rack server | 20:50 |
| tomreyn | also, which hardware is this or is it a VM (which virtualization)? which ubuntu version is this?, what is the system uptime? | 20:50 |
| chonkin | Supermicro* | 20:51 |
| === kaleozhou_ is now known as kaleozhou | ||
| leftyfb | chonkin: it says it's timing out trying to contact ntp.ubuntu.com | 20:51 |
| magga | anyway i can list all the apps i have installed through 'sudo apt install'? | 20:51 |
| leftyfb | chonkin: seems to me like port 123 UDP to ntp.ubuntu.com is blocked by your ISP/network admin | 20:51 |
| leftyfb | magga: sudo apt list --installed | 20:51 |
| tomreyn | even without sudo | 20:52 |
| leftyfb | magga: that's also going to list packages installed using dpkg | 20:52 |
| magga | leftyfb: ty, wow its a lot :D | 20:52 |
| leftyfb | it's going to list all installed .deb packages | 20:52 |
| chonkin | uptime 3 days 22 hours. | 20:52 |
| chonkin | ubuntu 20.04.1 | 20:52 |
| tomreyn | 20.04.1 is ooold, please install updates | 20:52 |
| leftyfb | chonkin: It seems to me like port 123 UDP to ntp.ubuntu.com is blocked by your ISP/network admin | 20:53 |
| ravage | ISP block is most likely yes | 20:53 |
| ashafq | I pretty much gave up on remote-desktop. I am probably going to stick to ssh... | 20:53 |
| ravage | contact your ISP if they offer a ntp server | 20:53 |
| magga | what do you guys use to backup your system? like what cloud storage and what application? | 20:53 |
| ravage | !backup | magga | 20:53 |
| ubottu | magga: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup, !borg, and !cloning | 20:53 |
| ashafq | magga: trueNAS | 20:53 |
| leftyfb | magga: feel free to ask for opinions on software and services in #ubuntu-offtopic | 20:53 |
| magga | aight | 20:54 |
| === ghvail|wtf is now known as ghavil | ||
| disgrunt | magga: tar | 22:50 |
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