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| zuzu | the most secure app better than telegram? | 01:18 |
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| zuzu | session is any good ? | 01:20 |
| toddc | yes but we offer support for Ubuntu you may want to ask in #offtopic | 01:22 |
| toddc | !offtopic | zuzu | 01:25 |
| ubottu | zuzu: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 01:25 |
| oerheks | 🥯 | 01:38 |
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| zelda | waazaaa | 08:04 |
| realivanjx | is it safe to assume that this is caused by heavy swapping? the memory usage was around 60% but the cpu and igpu was under max load for image processing before the system hung completely | 08:29 |
| realivanjx | https://litter.catbox.moe/lswmq9.jpeg | 08:29 |
| tomreyn | realivanjx: the kernel was tainted W when this screenshot had been taken, a kernel warning / oops had previously occurred. this might be more useful than the hung task infos. do you have logs on that? | 08:39 |
| tomreyn | and i wouldn't say it's generally safe to assume this. but *could be* why. | 08:39 |
| tomreyn | 22.04's vanilla (non HWE) LTS kernel is at version 5.15.0-119.129 according to https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/linux-image-generic and https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/linux-image-5.15.0-119-generic | 08:43 |
| realivanjx | i saw several oom messages from syslog but i think thats because the docker container memory limit | 08:43 |
| realivanjx | not actually the system running out of memory | 08:43 |
| realivanjx | yes thats the latest kernel version i just hadnt updated yet | 08:44 |
| tomreyn | do you have a systemd-journal, too? you can filter for warnings (and worse) using -p4 there | 08:44 |
| realivanjx | i use rsyslog and pass everything to a logging service let me check | 08:46 |
| tomreyn | maybe you also have a .warn log file from your syslog daemon | 08:46 |
| tomreyn | journalctl --list-boots should help to find out whether it has its own logs | 08:46 |
| tomreyn | https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-signed/linux-signed_5.15.0-119.129/changelog says this version was packaged (for jammy) on 2024-08-02, so i assume it was published no more than two days later, meaning you seem to have been running an outdated kernel for some two or three weeks. | 08:51 |
| realivanjx | i also saw: i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 9:0:0000000 | 08:51 |
| realivanjx | i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] Resetting rcs0 for stopped heartbeat on rcs0 | 08:52 |
| realivanjx | Fence expiration time out i915-0000:00:02.0:ffmpeg[3491063]:25a4! | 08:52 |
| tomreyn | when did the gpu hang occur? | 08:53 |
| realivanjx | tomreyn: i never really restarted the machine but i already set the automatic upgrade to reboot when necessary. i also use kernel livepatch | 08:53 |
| tomreyn | relative to the system failing / the screenshot timestamp? | 08:53 |
| realivanjx | not sure about the gpu hang timing but it is around the last restart time | 08:54 |
| realivanjx | well, hard reset since everything is hung up | 08:54 |
| tomreyn | so you cannot grep -F your syslog for "i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 9:0:0000000" and get its timestamp? | 08:55 |
| realivanjx | well it is now 15:56, the uptime is 2 hours 20 minutes and the log was at 13:09 | 08:57 |
| tomreyn | i see | 08:58 |
| tomreyn | do you apply microcode updates? | 08:58 |
| realivanjx | it was installed a few days ago by the auto update | 08:59 |
| realivanjx | i dont think it is related since the cpu is old | 09:00 |
| realivanjx | i5 6500T | 09:00 |
| tomreyn | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/i915/kernel/-/issues/548 which is a dupe of https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/i915/kernel/-/issues/673 can be related | 09:03 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 548 in drm/i915/kernel "GPU HANG: ecode 9:0:0x00000000, hang on rcs0" [Closed] | 09:03 | |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 673 in drm/i915/kernel "GPU hang on transition to idle" [Closed] | 09:03 | |
| tomreyn | I would recommend using the HWE kernel | 09:03 |
| realivanjx | HWE is just ubuntu with newer kernels correct? | 09:05 |
| ravage | !hwe | realivanjx | 09:05 |
| ubottu | realivanjx: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 09:05 |
| tomreyn | https://gist.github.com/tomreyn/8d7675840d7bc7389b32e4d8887ca449 | 09:06 |
| tomreyn | you seem to be currently tracking the GA/vanilla kernel on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | 09:08 |
| tomreyn | which is not wrong, and should still be supported | 09:08 |
| eipip1eq0 | ducasse: CosmicDJ: fixed. previously I messed up netplan .yml config file with wrong indentations | 09:31 |
| tomreyn | realivanjx: i forgot to ask whether you have a modified /proc/cmdline, or rather *had* at the time the GPU hang occurred. | 09:38 |
| realivanjx | no i never modify the cmdline | 09:41 |
| realivanjx | i think it is just issues with the intel driver or something | 09:42 |
| realivanjx | https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/issues/8470 | 09:42 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 8470 in blakeblackshear/frigate "[Config Support]: Whole Machine Crashing - looking for some tips" [Open] | 09:42 | |
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| tomreyn | it's always difficult to tell what causes a gpu hang. with i915 i think you can gather debug info using kernel cmdline parameters but those wold probably just be of use to intel, if at all. if you suspect swappng was involved and if this happens regularly, gathering more system stats , including swap utilization and memory pressure and disk io could help oyou establish or rule out your theory. | 10:08 |
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| casionaut | I'm using Gnome Tweaks 46.0 and found out that it doesn't have settings for adjusting laptop lid behavior. Any ideas on how I can set lid close behavior to logging out? | 10:39 |
| tomreyn | man logind.conf # /etc/systemd/logind.conf | 10:42 |
| tomreyn | look for the settings starting with "HandleLidSwitch" | 10:43 |
| tomreyn | loginctl show-session # to get your current config | 10:45 |
| tomreyn | casionaut: ^ | 10:45 |
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| casionaut | tomreyn: based on my current config, HandleLidSwitch is set to "suspend". Is there a value that'll lock the session instead and prompt a login when the lid is opened? | 10:57 |
| tomreyn | from what i remember, 'suspend' should actually lock the session and require you to unlock it on return. | 10:58 |
| tomreyn | after all, that's a security feature | 10:59 |
| tomreyn | so i'd rather try to find out why it apparently doesn't do that on your system | 10:59 |
| casionaut | tried "lock" as a value too, but no dice. I'll check something else real quick | 11:00 |
| casionaut | I tried disabling "caffeine mode" in case that's interfering but no, still the same. | 11:02 |
| casionaut | I think the laptop is going to sleep, you have to press the power button to wake it up | 11:02 |
| casionaut | but on wake up, it just continues from the session. no login prompt. | 11:03 |
| tomreyn | which graphical login manager are you using? | 11:04 |
| tomreyn | try to use gdm3, i don't know if this can work otherwise | 11:05 |
| tomreyn | other than that check your logs, they may say something about "lock inhibitor" or "lock inhibited" OR "inhibited lock" OR "inhibits lock" or similar by the time you suspend or return from suspend. | 11:07 |
| tomreyn | so somewhere around the " PM: " event | 11:08 |
| casionaut | good question, how can I find out which login manager I'm using? the distro is Budgie | 11:08 |
| tomreyn | is this https://ubuntubudgie.org/ ? | 11:12 |
| casionaut | yep | 11:13 |
| casionaut | DE: Budgie 10.9.1 / WM: Mutter(Budgie) | 11:13 |
| tomreyn | hmm i'm not familiar with what it uses | 11:14 |
| tomreyn | does this output anything? env | grep -i gdm | 11:15 |
| casionaut | yeah, GDM_LANG=en_US, GDMSESSION=budgie-desktop | 11:16 |
| casionaut | nothing in /var/log/syslog with "inhib" | 11:18 |
| tomreyn | pgrep gdm | xargs ps | nc termbin.com 9999 | 11:19 |
| tomreyn | which ubuntu budgie version is this? | 11:20 |
| casionaut | 24.04 LTS | 11:21 |
| casionaut | I found something in /var/log/syslog.1 I'll create a paste | 11:21 |
| tomreyn | can you run the three commands with pipes i posted above, too? | 11:22 |
| tomreyn | it should post three lines to termbin.com, a pastebin-like service, and return a url | 11:22 |
| casionaut | yep | 11:22 |
| casionaut | https://termbin.com/oiel | 11:23 |
| casionaut | https://bpa.st/QXFQ | 11:23 |
| tomreyn | uh, that's unexpected output, can you double check you ran the exact commands i provided? there were two pipes | 11:24 |
| tomreyn | oh, actually, its fine | 11:25 |
| tomreyn | you're not running gdm | 11:25 |
| tomreyn | apparently budgie has its own session manager which, i assume, also acts as a login manager. | 11:25 |
| casionaut | interesting, I thought they were mostly using Gnome tools | 11:26 |
| casionaut | looks like I'm headed to their Discourse site | 11:26 |
| ravage | root 2009 0.0 0.1 379928 7224 ? Ssl 11:24 0:00 /usr/sbin/lightdm | 11:27 |
| ravage | this is from the live budgie 24.04 iso | 11:27 |
| tomreyn | they are, but not everywhere. yes, i think getting support from their preferred support location is the best approach. they *may* also have an irc channel around here, maybe there is #ubuntu-budgie (or the same without the hyphon)? https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/budgie-session recommends "default-logind" or "logind", neither of whic exist, this looks liie a potential bug. | 11:28 |
| tomreyn | ah, thanks ravage, so the login manager is likely lightdm | 11:29 |
| casionaut | I'll take a peek at /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | 11:29 |
| tomreyn | i don't think lightdm and gnome-shell/-session cooperate fine in that lightdm gets to lock the session if you use the two, but my info may be outdated. | 11:30 |
| casionaut | interesting | 11:31 |
| casionaut | i'll talk to the folks from budgie and see if I can figure it out | 11:33 |
| casionaut | thanks a lot for helping me narrow it down | 11:33 |
| ravage | there is https://matrix.to/#/#ubuntu-budgie-chirping:ubuntu.com but its not that crowded | 11:33 |
| ravage | so maybe try the discourse first | 11:33 |
| ravage | that seems to be their primary support location | 11:34 |
| casionaut | yep, I'll try their discourse instance | 11:34 |
| casionaut | they used to have an active gitter but seems like Discourse is the main community hub now | 11:35 |
| tomreyn | good luck! | 11:39 |
| casionaut | ty ty! | 11:39 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:24 |
| Guest94 | Hi, I am using libusb for scsi communication with the mass storage device which has multi lun, the problem here is when i connect the device kernel is doing some operation meaning kernel has attached the device and at the same time i detach it from the libusb but my scsi commands fail. so i want to make sure that kernel doesnt interfere until i | 12:26 |
| Guest94 | say. how can i tell the kernel not to act with the device also this operation should not affect the libusb | 12:26 |
| tomreyn | i think i have nearly no clue what you're trying to do, but maybe it helps you to know that there are "usb-storage" (search in page) linux cmdline parameters https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html | 12:36 |
| Guest94 | okay thank you | 12:37 |
| tomreyn | some of those may also be editable at runtime by writing into the pseudo files at /sys/module/usb_storage/parameters/ (after the module is loaded) | 12:38 |
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| webchat49 | hello guys | 13:09 |
| gebbione | hi a camera that i have used as webcam for years is not being detected and i see no /dev/video device nor can see it in Cheese | 16:10 |
| gebbione | what can i do to detect it | 16:10 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | lsusb | 16:11 |
| leftyfb | gebbione: unplug it. Run this in a terminal: sudo dmesg -Tw # then plug in the camera | 16:13 |
| gebbione | https://termbin.com/j60x | 16:13 |
| gebbione | i ll try dmesg | 16:13 |
| gebbione | i think the cable is dead | 16:16 |
| gebbione | the usb | 16:16 |
| gebbione | with a good cable i get this output but still cannot access it from Cheese https://paste.linux.chat/?4c5a9174fc3bb136#FaobdavdV7b6zHiVa1MwyUtmDjscNvmyPeBBqNjPRvpC | 16:19 |
| gebbione | any thoughts leftyfb | 16:25 |
| GrandPa-G | I have a portrait short video that is 2160x3840. I want to make a new video of it with the same video duplicated on its side so together the video is 4320x3840. Would anyone give me a command that would do this (or even a web process). Please don't just say use vlc or ffmpeg, I need the exact command line. I have tried many options and none seem to really work. | 16:27 |
| leftyfb | GrandPa-G: you should ask in #ffmpeg | 16:27 |
| GrandPa-G | leftyfb, good suggestion, thanks | 16:29 |
| leftyfb | gebbione: sorry, I can't help at the moment | 16:29 |
| pragmaticenigma | gebbione: does another program like VLC show the camera as available? (VLC -> Media Menu -> Open Capture Device) | 16:40 |
| gebbione | pragmaticenigma, i can see a /dev/video42 in the vlc dropdown | 16:42 |
| gebbione | but it wont play | 16:43 |
| gebbione | VLC is unable to open the MRL 'v4l2:///dev/video42'. Check the log for details. | 16:45 |
| gaelheart | I use fedora but i wanted to know if my issue happens on ubuntu also and if there is a solution? | 16:46 |
| gaelheart | anybody know why gsconnect in text messaging i get 3 texts for every one text? | 16:47 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: please seek support with Fedora from Fedora support methods | 16:47 |
| gaelheart | like 3 in a row identical texts | 16:47 |
| gaelheart | happening on all my machines | 16:47 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: nobody answers over there | 16:49 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: install ubuntu | 16:49 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: is it better? | 16:49 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: it's the distro we'll provide support for in here | 16:50 |
| deadrom | hi | 16:51 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: i will switch to ubuntu because there is zero support for fedora | 16:51 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: i get more support from chatgpt then anywhere else | 16:51 |
| gebbione | gaelheart, is this gconnect tooling distro specific? | 16:52 |
| deadrom | what are my chances of replugging the usb drive I booted to into another usb port without the system crashing? all relevant things are loaded into memory | 16:52 |
| gaelheart | gebbione: i can't discuss it here because i use fedora | 16:53 |
| gebbione | gaelheart, good luck then with your great attitude | 16:53 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: mind you, gsconnect is not in the ubuntu repo's and not really supported. I would reach out to the gsconnect for support with their application | 16:53 |
| gaelheart | gebbione: i don't have an attitude, friend. i was just told to use fedora support | 16:53 |
| leftyfb | deadrom: not good | 16:54 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: thanks | 16:54 |
| gebbione | gaelheart, told by who? | 16:54 |
| gaelheart | gebbione: i was told to use fedora support for questions by leftyfb | 16:54 |
| pragmaticenigma | gebbione: they're running Fedora, there is nothing this channel can do as there are going to be differences in the implentation and versioning between the two distributions. If gaelheart would like to avoid starting over from scratch, they could install Ubuntu into a VM and see if the problem exists for them there. Then this channel would have the correct resources to try and help them. That they may be able to apply to their own | 16:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | situation, or use as a starting point. | 16:56 |
| deadrom | leftyfb, yes, better not try my luck. | 16:58 |
| gaelheart | I will just install ubuntu. I will leave fedora on my laptop. There's got to be a good reason most people use ubuntu. seems like that anyway | 16:59 |
| gebbione | pragmaticenigma, i think it might just be an application issue but gaelheart thinks otherwise ... rathen than checking with the application specific support. Not sure why an application bug would be an OS specific issue | 17:00 |
| gaelheart | I'm sick of tinkering. i want to concentrate on my work, not always troubleshooting my OS. too busy for that | 17:00 |
| deadrom | gaelheart, macos ;) | 17:01 |
| leftyfb | deadrom: lets not | 17:01 |
| tito18 | Hi guys | 17:01 |
| gaelheart | gonna install it right now. anybody can give me a link to a website things to do after installing ubuntu? | 17:03 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: that's completely up to you | 17:04 |
| gaelheart | i heard rumors ubuntu is bloated like windows. is that true out of the box? | 17:04 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: no | 17:04 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: excellent | 17:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | gebbione: It can be OS specific, especially when it come the shell. Ubuntu ships Gnome desktop with a fair number of adjustments and optimizations for their own unique experience (one such item is the application dock.) There's also the possibility that when bundling the packages different decisions were made on the dependency requirements. But the most important thing would be in this case, Fedora runs a much newer version of Gnome | 17:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | Desktop than Ubuntu ships with. So a bug in Fedora may not be in Ubuntu (yet) or a bug in Ubuntu may have ben fixed in the version shipped by Fedora | 17:04 |
| deadrom | leftyfb, agree :) | 17:05 |
| tito18 | about card video Geforce RTXTM 3050, PCI 4x8 8GB GDDR6 memory | 17:05 |
| tito18 | I can't install the drivers | 17:05 |
| leftyfb | !nvidia | tito18 | 17:05 |
| ubottu | tito18: Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers | 17:05 |
| deadrom | gaelheart, depends. if footprint is an issue start with a server installation and add only what you really need | 17:05 |
| leftyfb | the 24.04 installer has a minimal installation option | 17:06 |
| pragmaticenigma | ^ ^ this ... better to go the minimal installation option than server... much smaller hills to climb | 17:07 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: does it include a desktop environment with that minimal installation option? | 17:07 |
| leftyfb | it's part of the desktop installer, yes | 17:07 |
| gaelheart | ahh ok | 17:07 |
| gaelheart | i'll do that then | 17:07 |
| deadrom | gaelheart, generally it's a bit apples/oranges as Windows is an operating system (and I cringe saying it) but linux flavours are generally distributions. so you get a whole ecosystem with plenty configuration options to your liking | 17:07 |
| gaelheart | does the installer have a partitioning tool in it? i want to keep my partitioning scheme | 17:08 |
| leftyfb | yes | 17:08 |
| gaelheart | excelente | 17:08 |
| leftyfb | though I recommend just using the entire drive with 1 partition | 17:08 |
| leftyfb | there's absolutely zero benefit to picking multiple partitions for various directories on the same drive | 17:09 |
| gaelheart | i have a /boot/efi ; /mnt/windows; / ; /home | 17:09 |
| deadrom | interesting. exactly what I recommend against. keep at least / and /home seperated and possibly /var | 17:09 |
| leftyfb | I would wipe home and install ubuntu onto the rest of the drive | 17:09 |
| leftyfb | deadrom: zero benefit | 17:09 |
| leftyfb | and we get people in here from time to time with issues arising from such configurations | 17:10 |
| deadrom | seperate home means zou get to switch easily keeping home intact | 17:10 |
| deadrom | seperate var means no logging/apt issues when disk is full | 17:10 |
| tito18 | ok, tk! it's complicated, but i can do it. | 17:10 |
| tito18 | thanks | 17:11 |
| leftyfb | deadrom: a non-issue when 1TB drives are common | 17:11 |
| deadrom | thats a fallacy | 17:11 |
| leftyfb | as for /home, "switching" isn't usually a plug-n-play scenario | 17:11 |
| gaelheart | i guess i can just get rid of / and /home and make them one / mount point | 17:11 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: that would be the smart thing to do | 17:12 |
| leftyfb | separate partitions was a thing 20 years ago, and even then it really didn't work the way people thought it did | 17:12 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: does ubuntu use btrfs by default? | 17:12 |
| leftyfb | not by default, no | 17:12 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: ext4? | 17:12 |
| deadrom | I made my point and stand by it. | 17:12 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: yes | 17:13 |
| gaelheart | ok cool cuz that's what i use now. fedora is btrfs by default | 17:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | gebbione: to follow up on your camera. If VLC sees it, but cannot pull video from it, I think it's possible the device isn't fully supported by the available drivers | 17:14 |
| deadrom | gaelheart, btrfs I'd recommend only for root where replacing lost files is easy. for home I'd stick to the classics | 17:14 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: it's funny you said 20 years ago because that's when i started tinkering around with linux. | 17:14 |
| deadrom | actually, today I'd go for partition for boot and lvm2 for the rest for flexibility. | 17:15 |
| leftyfb | deadrom: so ... you're saying for /home, where you have more critical files, you DON'T recommend using the filesystem that has easy restoration capabilities? | 17:15 |
| gaelheart | my ~ is backed up every morning at 4 am automatically so i don't care about restoration. i use pika backup from flathub. highly recommend it | 17:16 |
| deadrom | yes. btrfs has not matured to a degree where I recommend it for production use, so I see its uses when you often change software configuration, say for development environments. for your critical files the way to go is regular backup. | 17:16 |
| gaelheart | ok enough diccing around. off to install ubuntu | 17:18 |
| gaelheart | thanks leftyfb | 17:18 |
| oerheks | i find only complaints about idVendor=1b3f, idProduct=2002 | 17:20 |
| oerheks | i wonder, did it ever work? | 17:20 |
| deadrom | oerheks, wuzzat, lenovo laptop cam? | 17:22 |
| oerheks | deadrom, no, gebbiones webcam issue | 17:22 |
| gaelheart | writing my ubuntu now. what is snap? | 17:29 |
| oerheks | !snap | 17:30 |
| ubottu | Snaps are containerised software packages similar to Flatpaks and AppImages. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io | 17:30 |
| gaelheart | this website says to remove snap? | 17:30 |
| oerheks | no ubuntu website says remove snap | 17:30 |
| leftyfb | don't follow that website | 17:30 |
| nss | some people hate snaps | 17:30 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: ok | 17:31 |
| oerheks | if you want to remove snaps, change distro | 17:31 |
| nss | snaps are a great technology, if you doesn't like maybe you can remove it | 17:31 |
| gaelheart | oerheks: never heard of it | 17:31 |
| nss | but not following some random guy in internet | 17:31 |
| nss | sorry my english :P | 17:32 |
| gaelheart | nss so given the option, use snap | 17:32 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: it's just another package format. Once that's built directly from source and a lot of times, maintained directly by the vendor and not distro package maintainers | 17:32 |
| nss | yes | 17:32 |
| gaelheart | sounds awesome | 17:32 |
| gaelheart | i like that | 17:33 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: for instance, firefox will be a snap package by default and is maintained directly by Mozilla | 17:33 |
| nss | when firefox was distributed as snap, it started very slowly, but it's fixes now | 17:33 |
| gaelheart | interesting | 17:33 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: also, they are mostly release agnostic. As in, you'll have get the same version across all supported releases of ubuntu | 17:33 |
| gaelheart | oh wow | 17:34 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: but in full disclosure, by default, snaps have limited access to certain resources. So there might be times where you'll need to enable an application to access a resource eg. local storage, networking, etc | 17:35 |
| nss | i used snap in fedora and it worked very well | 17:35 |
| gaelheart | leftyfb: will the snap ask for permissions automatically? | 17:36 |
| leftyfb | no | 17:36 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: https://ubuntu.com/blog/a-guide-to-snap-permissions-and-interfaces | 17:36 |
| gaelheart | reading... | 17:37 |
| oerheks | gnome-settings > applications gives a nice menu for permissions | 17:37 |
| gaelheart | oh so a ermissions button is shown in Software it looks like | 17:39 |
| gaelheart | oerheks: ok | 17:40 |
| gaelheart | ok i wrote the image. time to install. later folks. thanks for the info about snap i probably would have avoided it | 17:41 |
| gaelheart | Im sure there are certain applications that i can't get on ubuntu so i will leave fedora on my laptop if i can't find a suitable replacement in the ubuntu repositories | 17:42 |
| gaelheart | i can just use the app on that | 17:43 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 17:44 |
| gaelheart | for example there's a really cool youtube downloader i use for downloading lectures. i doubt ubuntu has it | 17:44 |
| pragmaticenigma | gaelheart: I believe through Snaps, and the regular package management, there is pretty much every application you can think of available on Ubuntu that's available elsewhere. Short of distribution specific toolkits | 17:44 |
| gaelheart | pragmaticenigma: ok | 17:44 |
| oerheks | youtube is squeezing YT-dl | 17:44 |
| pragmaticenigma | only issue I had was to stop using the auto-selector for formats. Otherwise, it works just fine for me. | 17:45 |
| pragmaticenigma | assuming people treat yt-dl and yt-dlp interchangeably | 17:46 |
| enigma9o7 | assuming people don't use yt-dl anymore | 17:46 |
| enigma9o7 | since it hasnt worked in a looooooong time | 17:47 |
| pragmaticenigma | youtube-dl doesn't see a lot of activity ( enigma9o7 it has had commits to the project less than a couple months ago ) | 17:47 |
| oerheks | yt-dlp is the successor, indeed, bt YT changes constantly | 17:48 |
| enigma9o7 | and i appreciate that its kept relatively up to date in backports | 17:54 |
| pragmaticenigma | oh, you installed it via the package manager? | 17:59 |
| gebbione | pragmaticenigma, thanks for following up on the webcam question. Is ubuntu by any chance removing drivers? I cant see why the camera is suddenly not working | 17:59 |
| enigma9o7 | If you were asking me, yes I have yt-dlp installed thru package manager, from backports. | 18:02 |
| enigma9o7 | Once you install it once from backports manually, then it'll update automatically. | 18:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | gebbione: given you mentioned a faulty USB cable was used. can you test the camera on a known good USB cable on a known good machine (you may need to try on Windows or MacOS) to see if the camera is still operational. I've had a camera break because of a bad USB cable (wires shorted data to 5V, camera not so happy after that) | 18:03 |
| gebbione | pragmaticenigma, works on mac. Straightaway using VLC | 18:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | gebbione: have you tried rebooting the ubuntu machine after the failed connection? | 18:15 |
| oerheks | change usb port, black 2 or blue 3 | 18:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | gebbione: or tried using another USB port somewhere else on the machine. and I mean litterally else where on the machine, not the one right next to the previously used one | 18:17 |
| oerheks | yes, different controller | 18:17 |
| gebbione | that seems to have worked finally on VLC, cheese is looping the image | 18:19 |
| gebbione | zoom does not see it | 18:20 |
| pragmaticenigma | I believe a reboot would be best at this point. Something residual from troubleshooting could still be affecting things | 18:23 |
| gebbione | ok see you after the reboot | 18:24 |
| vixen | hi+ | 18:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | otherwise we can blame cheese for doing cheese things | 18:26 |
| gebbione | better now, still cheese cant open it | 18:28 |
| gebbione | but camera works on zoom | 18:28 |
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| gaelheart | i need to install a flatpak because pika backup isn't in the repositories. how can i do that. i just installed ubuntu for the first time. i just updated it and restarted so its fresh brand new updated | 19:56 |
| sarnold | sudo apt install flatpak ; sudo flatpak whatever pika | 19:57 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/how-to-install-flatpak-on-ubuntu | 19:57 |
| gaelheart | thanks leftyfb | 19:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | gaelheart: is that the system backup utility or the video production prompt tool? | 20:00 |
| gaelheart | pragmaticenigma: backup | 20:00 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: https://ubunlog.com/en/pika-backup-program-backup/ | 20:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | aww... was just about to suggest the same thing! | 20:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | question being, which one of us read it to verify it has good info :D | 20:03 |
| gaelheart | ok i followed the instructions from leftyfb 's url. thanks leftyfb | 20:04 |
| gaelheart | Pika Backup is installing. that was easy | 20:06 |
| decentlyannoyed | Just ubuntu-fied my old macbook. fast as light... | 20:06 |
| decentlyannoyed | I'm new to ubuntu - are there any tips/tricks that might prove useful for me? | 20:07 |
| gaelheart | wow my video downloader i used on fedora is available as a snap. sweet | 20:07 |
| decentlyannoyed | gaelheart: hmmm... I've been looking for a good video downloader, what's the program called? | 20:08 |
| gaelheart | 'Video Downloader' -- it has an orange film strip icon with a down-arrow on it | 20:09 |
| decentlyannoyed | Gotta try it! Thanks for the heads up gaelheart | 20:10 |
| gaelheart | decentlyannoyed: it is the best i have found | 20:10 |
| decentlyannoyed | Still getting used to using ctrl and not cmd =/ | 20:10 |
| decentlyannoyed | gaelheart: does it do batch downloads? | 20:10 |
| gaelheart | decentlyannoyed: i have to be honest. i haven't ever tried | 20:11 |
| decentlyannoyed | aha | 20:11 |
| oerheks | not good, it downloads faster than i can watch .. | 20:11 |
| decentlyannoyed | =D | 20:12 |
| FKAShinobi | Is there an ETA for VBox 7.0 for Ubuntu 22.04? | 21:28 |
| leftyfb | !latest | FKAShinobi | 21:29 |
| ubottu | FKAShinobi: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 21:29 |
| FKAShinobi | leftfb: Well it seems an update has rendered all my VMs dead with Guru Mediation errors. | 21:30 |
| leftyfb | FKAShinobi: what version of virtualbox are you running at the moment? | 21:32 |
| FKAShinobi | 6.1 | 21:32 |
| enigma9o7 | .50 | 21:32 |
| leftyfb | FKAShinobi: a quick google tells me you might just need to update the guest utils package with it | 21:33 |
| FKAShinobi | leftyfb: Ok, the google search I ran said to update to 7.0 | 21:33 |
| FKAShinobi | I'll try that | 21:33 |
| enigma9o7 | 6.1.50 doesn't support kernels newer than 6.3 in guest OS | 21:34 |
| enigma9o7 | Plus guru medidation errors on some host kernel versions too. | 21:34 |
| enigma9o7 | Just wait til next week and upgrade ubuntu to 24.04 and you'll get virtualbox 7.0.16 | 21:34 |
| leftyfb | ok, so either revert your kernel to 6.3, upgrade ubuntu to 24.04, or wait for Oracle to maybe fix virtualbox and maybe get the fix SRU'd into ubuntu 22.04(unlikely) | 21:36 |
| enigma9o7 | upstream, virtualbox 6.1 is EOL, there won't be any more updates from them, they just tell you to use 7.0. Which they do offer an apt repo for if you wanna use their build, but then its not official ubuntu anymore. | 21:38 |
| topcat001 | I am using weechat, edge (need for work), signal, etc. like that on 22.04. Generally stable but need to keep track of those (and preferably uninstall) before dist-upgrade. | 21:47 |
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| eelstrebor | so far i haven't found a solution to cups/hplip won't print a complete page from any of my pc's running ubuntu 24.04 but windows boxes print ok | 22:11 |
| oerheks | set up paper right in cups? | 22:12 |
| oerheks | localhost:631 | 22:12 |
| oerheks | delete header and footer, to clean up | 22:12 |
| gebbione | someone suggested to remove windows and just do single boot into ubuntu, however if you have any other suggestions let me know. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2500132 Windows works just fine | 22:17 |
| oerheks | someone .. | 22:18 |
| oerheks | so? | 22:18 |
| oerheks | weird advice, i say | 22:18 |
| oerheks | add android too | 22:18 |
| oerheks | 🤪 | 22:18 |
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| === gnubio is now known as biodigital | ||
| eelstrebor | oerheks, i never had a problem until upgrading to ubuntu 24.04 | 23:45 |
| oerheks | until upgrade path is out, prepare a fresh usb | 23:45 |
| oerheks | and your testing and reporting is helpfull | 23:46 |
| WeeBey | hi! i just wanted to share a little finding. I've been having hard crashes on wake from sleep recently. To try to remediate, I tried installing a 6.9.x kernel from mainline and surprisingly, no more crashes. | 23:58 |
| WeeBey | I was on 24.04 6.8.0-41-generic before | 23:59 |
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