| usfi | Assalamu'alaikum | 01:02 |
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| oerheks | :-) | 01:03 |
| * panicinthedistro waves hello | 01:11 | |
| panicinthedistro | hey cxc | 01:12 |
| EgonX | If anyone is around I have a question about apt-get upgrade is there a way to skip the box asking to restart services and to force it to be NO because it will be taken care after with a reboot? | 01:26 |
| leftyfb | EgonX: try: sudo NEEDRESTART_MODE=l apt upgrade | 01:29 |
| sarnold | EgonX: I think the settings I put in comment #2 here will do what you want https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/needrestart/+bug/1987449 | 01:29 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1987449 in needrestart (Ubuntu) "quieter defaults for needrestart" [Undecided, Fix Released] | 01:29 | |
| EgonX | Genius! Thanks leftyfb & sarnold that works perfectly | 01:32 |
| EgonX | Thank you so much | 01:32 |
| sarnold | EgonX: you might also want to set DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive, depending upon how many dialog boxes you want to get rid | 01:32 |
| EgonX | I owe you both 1 adult beverage | 01:32 |
| sarnold | EgonX: see the debconf(7) manpage for details | 01:32 |
| sarnold | YAY TASTY BEVERAGE | 01:32 |
| EgonX | Never let it be said that EgonX doesn't give credit where credit is due and is appreciative | 01:33 |
| sarnold | :D | 01:33 |
| EgonX | Here's another one... Is there any reason, after running apt upgrade to reboot the server if there is no kernel updates or other packages that require a reboot? | 01:34 |
| leftyfb | not likely | 01:35 |
| EgonX | So really I just need to change my order of operation and then set that NEEDRESTART_MODE=a | 01:36 |
| leftyfb | that will restart services as needed | 01:36 |
| EgonX | So if I put it in as part of a script and part of that script happens to restart the SSH service... What happens? | 01:37 |
| sarnold | you better hope you don't have any errors in your ssh configuration that prevent it from restarting :) | 01:40 |
| EgonX | Lol well, not usually, those are changing much | 01:41 |
| Bashing-om | EgonX: system requires a restart ? check ' ls -al /var/run/rboot-required '. | 01:42 |
| Bashing-om | reboot/re* | 01:42 |
| EgonX | If I do this right I could just reboot the server anyway, but I see little point in that if it doesn't really need to be restarted | 01:44 |
| sarnold | it's nice to get get that fresh kernel smell every once in a while | 01:45 |
| EgonX | Well, and the app I'm running on these servers is sometimes a little... how shall we say... sloppy | 01:45 |
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| Guddu | After formatting a HDD using gparted, the file system gets mounted but is owned by root. What should be the procedure to make the root folder accessible for copying operations to any server that the disk is later connected to? | 03:59 |
| Bashing-om | !sudo Guddu Kernel space will always be owned by root - | 04:07 |
| ubottu | Bashing-om: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 04:07 |
| Bashing-om | !sudo | Guddu Kernel space will always be owned by root - | 04:07 |
| ubottu | Guddu Kernel space will always be owned by root -: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo | 04:07 |
| enigma9o7 | I think they're referring to another partition/disk. | 04:11 |
| enigma9o7 | Guddu: the root folder of another disk will always be mounted somewhere on your normal filesystem, like /media/something or whatever which you can control in /etc/fstab | 04:12 |
| enigma9o7 | So just give everyone full read/write to that.... use sudo to chmod it to 777 if you want no restrictions at all. | 04:13 |
| Guddu | enigma9o7, Thanks. I will do a 755 recursive. | 04:14 |
| enigma9o7 | If you mean physically connecting it to other machines, well then ext4 isnt the best option, I'd go with exfat. | 04:14 |
| matsaman | well, if you don't have lots of copies, you should stick with an actual good FS, like ext | 04:16 |
| sam_wong | Hi, I am running Ubuntu 24.04 with an old computer (socket 1156 DDR3 4G + 2G + 2G ram leaving one slot empty). However, the system only recognises 6G when I run the "free" command. Any comment is appreciated. | 04:24 |
| matsaman | frequently mobos/firmwares limit the maximum RAM | 04:26 |
| matsaman | check the specs | 04:26 |
| matsaman | it could also be that one of your sticks is bad, or one of your bays | 04:26 |
| matsaman | or that some is dedicated to the GPU, or something like that | 04:27 |
| sam_wong | matsaman: the motherboard specify a 16G max capacity | 04:28 |
| sam_wong | matsaman: all three rams are running at 1333 frequency | 04:30 |
| sam_wong | matsaman: Is there a program that can check the integrity of the ram? | 04:31 |
| matsaman | pretty sure there are programs, but | 04:33 |
| matsaman | you can just take one out, process of elimination | 04:33 |
| matsaman | it will either be obviously one of the sticks, or obviously one of the bays | 04:33 |
| matsaman | optimistically, if one bay is empty, try moving into the empty bay first | 04:34 |
| matsaman | it's really not worth figuring out if ram is bad or not via analyzing it | 04:34 |
| matsaman | same with hard disks | 04:34 |
| matsaman | just replace them | 04:34 |
| matsaman | way cheaper than the time and effort you'd spend analyzing them | 04:34 |
| matsaman | especially since you'll always need more storage, in the case of disks | 04:35 |
| sam_wong | matsaman: the "dmidecode" shows all three rams are present without error message | 04:35 |
| sam_wong | matsaman: but I am not sure which one is the culprit | 04:35 |
| matsaman | well something is giving you less than perfect information | 04:35 |
| matsaman | I would trust free the most | 04:36 |
| tomreyn | ram may need to be installed, on board, in specific banks if you're mixing DIMMs of different configurations. | 04:39 |
| tomreyn | refer to the mainboard manual on how to install it correctly | 04:39 |
| matsaman | picky rules and whatnot | 04:39 |
| matsaman | ram is pretty cheap at least, especially older ram typically | 04:40 |
| sam_wong | matsaman: yes, I should rearrange them to see if it works | 04:40 |
| matsaman | pretty low effort, that | 04:42 |
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| gebbione | oerheks, ? | 08:21 |
| gebbione | were you the one who suggested to remove dual boot? | 08:22 |
| oerheks | gebbione, no, you did from someone on the internet. | 08:44 |
| gebbione | it was from this channel | 08:44 |
| oerheks | no official ubuntu page suggests that, why do you ask again? | 08:44 |
| gebbione | i ll check the history | 08:44 |
| oerheks | no. | 08:44 |
| gebbione | it was the linux channel but still not only one person -> euouae> gebbione: dont dual boot | 08:46 |
| gebbione | i still would like to keep the dual boot | 08:46 |
| gebbione | but i have had this laptop stuck for weeks now | 08:46 |
| oerheks | no windows after some windows update? https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/revoking-vulnerable-windows-boot-managers/ba-p/4121735 | 08:48 |
| oerheks | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/august-windows-security-update-breaks-dual-boot-on-linux-systems/ | 08:49 |
| gebbione | i have the problem since july but i ll read the articles and try to check what i can do. | 08:51 |
| gebbione | but also i dont get that error | 08:52 |
| gebbione | not sure if i am supposed to see it | 08:52 |
| gebbione | and the laptop does not shut down | 08:52 |
| zaggynl | Would not recommend to dual boot but to use a VM, I've repeatedly tried to use dual boot, even across multiple disks and it always broke one way or another. | 08:53 |
| gebbione | also my ubuntu installation is latest 24.04 LTS and up to day | 08:53 |
| gebbione | date | 08:53 |
| oerheks | IIRC this was the latest big bug caused by windows | 08:55 |
| gebbione | and i dont know how it does it but... isnt GRUB supposed to take over before any windows software even starts? | 08:56 |
| gebbione | oerheks, do you know if ubuntu 24.04 is affected by this? | 09:04 |
| scottpedia | affected by what? gebbione | 09:05 |
| gebbione | scottpedia, oerheks shared https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/revoking-vulnerable-windows-boot-managers/ba-p/4121735 ... I assume suggesting it might cause the problems I am having https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2500132 | 09:06 |
| Liquid | hello i had a dual boot system where i had windows installed i deleted windows via just wiping the parititon and would like to add the remaining file storage to my exising ubuntu install | 09:09 |
| Liquid | im not sure how to do that could anyone assist? | 09:09 |
| scottpedia | depends on the filesystem of your ubuntu install | 09:10 |
| scottpedia | some file systems support such resizing some don't | 09:10 |
| scottpedia | Liquid need further assistance? | 09:14 |
| Liquid | its ubuntu 22.04 | 09:14 |
| scottpedia | what's the file system of your ubuntu partition? Liquid | 09:15 |
| Liquid | ext4 | 09:16 |
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| mgedmin | easiest would be to reformat the windows partition as ext4, and then use it for extra storage | 09:20 |
| mgedmin | actually moving and resizing your existing partition will be a huge pain, I wouldn't even try | 09:21 |
| scottpedia | i don't think ext4 supports dynamic resizing | 09:25 |
| scottpedia | Liquid | 09:25 |
| scottpedia | if wouldn't try anything resizing-wise on things other than lvm or zfx partitions | 09:25 |
| mgedmin | ext4 supports online growing, but that requires that the free space is located right after your existing partition | 09:25 |
| mgedmin | if the drive was [esp][windows][ubuntu] and now you have [esp][free-space][ubuntu], then you can't grow ubuntu into free-space | 09:26 |
| scottpedia | ohh okay you mean adjacent to the windows partition in his case? | 09:26 |
| scottpedia | next to | 09:26 |
| scottpedia | that's understandable | 09:26 |
| mgedmin | (I mean nothing is impossible, you can make full backips, boot a live session from usb and then move the partition, and then grow it, but it's a hassle and if you lose power mid-move, you're hosed without backups) | 09:28 |
| scottpedia | okay right | 09:30 |
| scottpedia | Liquid need more help? | 09:30 |
| gordonjcp | Liquid: how painful would just wiping and reinstalling be? | 09:38 |
| gordonjcp | Liquid: your two options are basically nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure, and then start from scratch | 09:39 |
| gordonjcp | Liquid: *or* format your old partition as ext4 and mount it as additional storage | 09:39 |
| mgedmin | (starting from scratch is a great opportunity for upgrading to a bigger ssd) | 09:39 |
| gordonjcp | mgedmin: indeed, I have hard disks going back to the early 2000s because of this strategy | 09:39 |
| gordonjcp | mgedmin: "Oh a new major release of $distro? I'll just buy another hard disk..." | 09:39 |
| gordonjcp | Liquid: you're probably already aware of this, that Unix-y OSes don't have MS-DOS-like drive letter the way that Windows has, so even if you partition a disk it's not like having a "C:" drive and a "D:" drive | 09:40 |
| gordonjcp | Liquid: you can mount the extra space anywhere you like | 09:40 |
| gordonjcp | well | 09:40 |
| gordonjcp | don't mount it over /dev | 09:41 |
| gordonjcp | that would be bad and a painful experience from which you would learn a lot of new things | 09:41 |
| gordonjcp | mostly you'd learn not to do that again | 09:41 |
| mgedmin | oof | 09:41 |
| gordonjcp | mounting it over /usr isn't a great idea | 09:41 |
| gordonjcp | //proc is right out | 09:42 |
| * mgedmin lets nautilus mount his external usb drive wherever and has a /pub symlink to /media/$user/$drive/pub/ for convenient access to the files | 09:42 | |
| gordonjcp | Liquid: in the olden days we often had / on one disk, with /home on another physical drive because hard disks were quite small, and sometimes even /usr was a separate partition if not actually disk | 09:42 |
| mgedmin | (the subdirectory at the root of the drive is mostly so I won't have to stare at lost+found all the time) | 09:42 |
| gordonjcp | mgedmin: yup | 09:42 |
| gordonjcp | mgedmin: I have some udev rules to do similar when I attach various cameras | 09:43 |
| gordonjcp | mgedmin: I broke it recently but I had a script that would detect a card in my SxS reader, work out if it had footage I didn't already have a copy of, and back copy it across locally, whenever I stuck a card in | 09:44 |
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| Czernobog | how do I manage sudo lecture in Ubuntu? I have added these two lines: Defaults lecture_file = /etc/sudoers.lecture, Defaults lecture = always and added a text file /etc/sudoers.lecture. It doesn't work | 11:58 |
| mgedmin | do you perhaps have a .sudo_as_admin_successful file in your home directory? | 11:59 |
| mgedmin | wait, or is it /var/lib/sudo/lectured nowadays? | 11:59 |
| oerheks | /etc/sudo_lecture is a file that Apple includes in macOS ?? | 11:59 |
| mgedmin | ah, never mind, lecture = always should make sudo ignore lecture status files | 12:00 |
| Czernobog | so I should remove lecture = always? | 12:02 |
| Czernobog | I keep getting $USER is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. | 12:03 |
| Czernobog | instead of the custom message I have added | 12:03 |
| Czernobog | mgedmin: I do have .sudo_as_admin_successful in my home directory. Shall I delete it? | 12:05 |
| mgedmin | no, I think I mixed up sudo lecture with ubuntu's notification on 1st login about using sudo instead of su root | 12:06 |
| mgedmin | is sudo supposed to show lectures to users who are not sudoers? | 12:06 |
| Czernobog | mgedmin: it does say $USER is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. | 12:09 |
| Czernobog | I checked the man page and it does say that I can change this by prociding a "lecture_file" | 12:09 |
| Czernobog | s/prociding/providing | 12:09 |
| mgedmin | oh, is that message the default lecture actually? I got completely mixed up in my mind, sorry for misleading you | 12:12 |
| Czernobog | mgedmin: I don't know where the default lecture file is or if it's even there in the first place. | 12:26 |
| Czernobog | Just saw on stackoverflow that ubuntu doesn't compile sudo with the lecture_file flag so it's probably not there | 12:27 |
| Czernobog | don't know how to verify though | 12:27 |
| prayagraj | hai | 12:38 |
| test_ | yo | 12:41 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:45 |
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| mguy | On 20.04, if I run apt-get install python3.10, why don't I get an error that says that package doesn't exist? Instead it installs 3.8 | 13:42 |
| ravage | that is correct | 13:42 |
| ravage | 20.04 comes with that version 3.8 | 13:43 |
| mguy | I understand that - but why doesn't it say "there is no 3.10" and stop installing | 13:43 |
| oerheks | weird, as python3 is already installed .. why would it install 3.8?" | 13:44 |
| scottpedia | version requirements mismatch | 13:45 |
| oerheks | doubt that.. | 13:46 |
| ravage | i dont see a problem anyway. unless you dont add -y to the command it shows you what it installs | 13:46 |
| ravage | and it shows the only version available in 20.04 | 13:46 |
| mguy | If I say python3.20 it fails and says couldn't find any package by glob 'python3.20' | 13:47 |
| kk1234 | mguy use a virtual environment tool (if you want to use/manage different python versions safely) like pyenv, virtualenv, poetry etc. | 13:47 |
| scottpedia | paste the log mguy | 13:47 |
| mguy | I do not want to run Python 3.10 | 13:47 |
| mguy | The problem is if a user creates a Dockerfile that tries to install 3.10 | 13:47 |
| mguy | It doesn't give an err | 13:47 |
| mguy | So they think they have 3.10 in their image blah blah | 13:48 |
| mguy | If I try to install some random pacakge like 'frisbeedisbee' I get an error that it's not found | 13:48 |
| kk1234 | mguy maybe use the 24.04 docker image then | 13:48 |
| mguy | kk1234: But that doesn't fix the problem | 13:49 |
| oerheks | is docker not standard with python3? | 13:49 |
| mguy | I realize you need a newer ubuntu to run 3.10 | 13:49 |
| leftyfb_ | mguy: please show proof that typing "sudo apt install python3.10" on ubuntu 20.04 will install python3.8 | 13:57 |
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| leftyfb | mguy: because that isn't what happens https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F9rMPXFYZ4/ | 13:58 |
| mguy | leftyfb: run it again with apt-get | 13:59 |
| leftyfb | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sks8bTfbsN/ | 14:00 |
| leftyfb | it made an assumption using a package name that has python3.10 in the package name | 14:01 |
| mguy | Can that be disabled? | 14:01 |
| mguy | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1433821/apt-incorrectly-guesses-package-names-instead-of-giving-an-error | 14:06 |
| oerheks | ahha, the "." in "python3.10" triggered apt to interpret it as a regular expression.. | 14:08 |
| oerheks | but that example is with the deadsnake ppa.. | 14:08 |
| mguy | oerheks: It's really more of the regex behavior | 14:09 |
| leftyfb | mguy: use apt then | 14:09 |
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| oerheks | good part is it does not install anything | 14:10 |
| mguy | oerheks: If you have a minimal image it appears to install 3.8 | 14:11 |
| mguy | I can't copy/paste my docker log from the other machine but it does | 14:11 |
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| leftyfb | it installs 3.8 because it's a dependency of libpython3.10-stdlib | 14:12 |
| mguy | It's also matching libqgispython3.10.4 | 14:13 |
| leftyfb | mguy: use apt | 14:15 |
| mguy | It's a dockerfile so everything tells you to use apt-get. I'll just have to remember this when troubleshooting. Would have to intervene to disable regex (if you could) anyway | 14:18 |
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| oerheks | but libpython3.10-stdlib is not in the focal repos... | 14:21 |
| * oerheks is baffled | 14:21 | |
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| johnfg | hi folks | 15:07 |
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| julia-phoebe | x | 15:26 |
| johnfg | hi folks | 15:51 |
| johnfg | Anyone working on what's referred to here in this post? https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-info/2024-August/043485.html | 15:52 |
| johnfg | It has to do with the current openafs, the latest linux kernel, and incompatibilities that were fixed, but not yet in ubuntu. | 15:52 |
| ravage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openafs/+bug/2077114 | 16:00 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2077114 in openafs (Ubuntu) "openafs-modules-dkms 1.8.10-2ubuntu1~22.04.1: openafs kernel module failed to build" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 16:00 | |
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| chorusofweasels | Howdy. First time for me. | 17:26 |
| pa | Hi, any report of kernel 6.8 breaking virtualbox again? | 17:26 |
| pa | rebuilding the kernel module does not seem to help | 17:26 |
| pa | (ubuntu 22.04) | 17:27 |
| toddc | pa 6.8.0-41-generic works wth virtualbox for me 24.04 gnome basic out of the box | 17:42 |
| GodGinrai | I'm trying to rotate a specific monitor using xrandr and am receiving the error `xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed` when I try to execute the command. I'd appreciate if someone could help me troubleshoot this. I'm executing `DISPLAY=:0.1 xrandr --output HDMI3 --rotate right`. I get this error for any rotation value other than "normal". | 18:10 |
| oerheks | xrandr --output HDMI-3 ... | 18:13 |
| GodGinrai | oerheks: On my system, it's HDMI3, not HDMI-3. I even get an error saying that no such output exists when I use the hyphen. | 18:17 |
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| rodrigo_ | oi | 20:01 |
| gebbione | yo | 20:01 |
| rodrigo_ | blz | 20:02 |
| rodrigo_ | instalei o aapenel 2 vezes mas quado estava ledo a documentaçâo parou de funcionar, n fiz nadaso parou de responder localmente | 20:07 |
| leftyfb | !es | rodrigo_ | 20:09 |
| ubottu | rodrigo_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 20:09 |
| rodrigo_ | blz obg | 20:09 |
| xangua | !pt | 20:11 |
| ubottu | Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. | 20:11 |
| xangua | Isso é português, não espanhol. Mais mão sei o que é "aapenel" | 20:11 |
| rodrigo_ | obg eu | 20:12 |
| rodrigo_ | e um painel estilo cpanel, aapenel | 20:13 |
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| rodrigo_ | wget https://www.aapanel.com/script/install_7.0_en.sh && if [ -f /usr/bin/curl ];then curl -ksSO "$URL" ;else wget --no-check-certificate -O install_7.0_en.sh "$URL";fi;bash install_7.0_en.sh 93684c35 | 20:24 |
| rodrigo_ | terceira instalaçao | 20:27 |
| leftyfb | rodrigo_: please seek support from aapenel.com for their 3rd party application | 20:28 |
| rodrigo_ | Thank you | 20:38 |
| wuseman | ¡jaja! xD ubuntu-co = buranquilla amigos? | 20:41 |
| wuseman | ¿barranquilla! Si! | 20:42 |
| wuseman | Why is the default installer not including luks header backup when installing Ubuntu Desktop? | 20:43 |
| leftyfb | !bug | wuseman | 20:43 |
| ubottu | wuseman: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 20:43 |
| wuseman | Is it a bug? | 20:43 |
| leftyfb | if you think it's a missing feature, then file a bug | 20:44 |
| wuseman | It's not. Just a question. Just an advice for the infra. | 20:44 |
| wuseman | Ok thanks leftyfb i can do. | 20:44 |
| wuseman | But no time, maybe someone else got time over. I was just asking it I fixed it anyway during the installer. Feel free to create an account. | 20:45 |
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| megamichix | hi | 20:57 |
| megamichix | hello? | 20:58 |
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| hwpplayer1 | hello | 21:13 |
| hwpplayer1 | I want to switch to Ubuntu from Debian 12 | 21:13 |
| hwpplayer1 | And I want to run Ubuntu with free Ubuntu Pro | 21:14 |
| hwpplayer1 | I have one disk , what should I do for a fresh install ? | 21:14 |
| hwpplayer1 | Flashing the usb with GNOME Disks right ? | 21:14 |
| toddc | !pro | hwpplayer1 | 21:15 |
| ubottu | hwpplayer1: Ubuntu Pro is a service offered by Canonical for expanded CVE patching, ten-years security maintenance and optional support. Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free for personal use on up to 5 machines. For details please see https://ubuntu.com/pro and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq | 21:15 |
| toddc | https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overview | 21:15 |
| ravage | Ubuntu comes with a startup disk creator | 21:15 |
| ravage | But yes disks should also work | 21:15 |
| hwpplayer1 | I'm on Debian 12 GNOME | 21:15 |
| hwpplayer1 | then Disks will work | 21:16 |
| hwpplayer1 | okay Thanks toddc | 21:16 |
| multifractal | For the last few days my laptop (Ubuntu 22.04) has been doing this weird thing. Seems to be usually when I open a video for playback in a browser. The display freezes up, can't move the cursor. But the audio keeps playing and stuff seems to continue running in the background. I have just been holding down the power button to restart. But I just realized I can hit CTRL+ALT+F1 (which appears to do nothing) then CTRL+ALT+F7 and my login scr | 21:40 |
| multifractal | een appears. After entering my password the session resumes as normal again and all my programs are still running. What might this be? | 21:40 |
| hwpplayer1 | what are your programs package format ? deb or snap ? | 21:41 |
| hwpplayer1 | multifractal: ^ | 21:41 |
| hwpplayer1 | If it is snap and there is a deb package try deb and test it | 21:42 |
| hwpplayer1 | I have been faced with broken snap apps like mattermost and discord screen tearing | 21:42 |
| hwpplayer1 | issue | 21:42 |
| multifractal | hwpplayer1: mostly debs. But I think I have firefox from the snap store. And come to think of it, VLC from the snap store too which also sometimes seems to trigger this glitch | 21:43 |
| leftyfb | snaps won't cause problems if they aren't running | 21:43 |
| leftyfb | multifractal: is your problem happening with firefox? | 21:44 |
| leftyfb | multifractal: sudo grep amd-vi /var/log/syslog | 21:45 |
| hwpplayer1 | yes leftyfb I agree on you but isn't a snap package runs on background ? | 21:45 |
| leftyfb | not unless it's a program that runs in the background | 21:45 |
| hwpplayer1 | understood leftyfb | 21:45 |
| leftyfb | firefox does not run in the background if you don't have it open | 21:45 |
| hwpplayer1 | okay fine | 21:45 |
| hwpplayer1 | let's wait for the paste output | 21:46 |
| multifractal | leftyfb: that grep didn't return anything. and yes, while I haven't figured out a definite trigger of what causes it it often seems to be when I'm using firefox and start playing a youtube video or video on reddit | 21:46 |
| leftyfb | multifractal: can you replicate it? | 21:46 |
| multifractal | leftyfb: it doesn't happen every time I play a video, only sometimes | 21:47 |
| leftyfb | multifractal: maybe try using chrome for a bit and leaving firefox and vlc closed for a bit | 21:47 |
| ravage | I had the same behavior on the latest Nvidia driver on 24.04. somehow my session switched back to Wayland | 21:47 |
| leftyfb | GPU drivers and wayland vs xorg could definitely be a cause as well | 21:48 |
| ravage | Going back to X11 solved the problem | 21:48 |
| multifractal | ravage: I don't have nvidia on this machine it's a dell 9310 with intel integrated graphics | 21:48 |
| ravage | X11 / Wayland switch is worth a try | 21:49 |
| ravage | One may just work better than the other for you | 21:49 |
| multifractal | OK I switched over to X11, I'll keep an eye out if it keeps happening. I just realized I don't have my favorite touchpad gestures though :( | 21:55 |
| topcat001 | multifractal: Is anything running on nvidia at all? nvidia-smi would show | 22:30 |
| topcat001 | assuming you're on gnome | 22:30 |
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| dorian | hey, does anybody know enough about dkms to troubleshoot when make errors out with "no targets"? clearly it's in the wrong directory but i don't know what directory it's running in | 23:05 |
| dorian | i'm trying to get a driver going and it doesn't have a dkms.conf and i'm almost certainly doing something wrong | 23:06 |
| dorian | er rather, i added a dkms.conf and almost certainly did something wrong in it | 23:06 |
| dorian | cause when i run dkms build it blows up and the log says no targets | 23:06 |
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