| root | hi | 00:46 |
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| root | hows it going | 00:46 |
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| wuseman | Great thanks! You? | 00:47 |
| wuseman | Ahh, disconneted. Good Bye then Guest1042! | 00:48 |
| wuseman | disconnected* | 00:48 |
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| darkstar_ | oi | 02:19 |
| wuseman | ¡hola amigo! | 02:21 |
| Frangel | hola | 02:24 |
| wuseman | lo Frangel | 02:24 |
| wuseman | Hows it going? | 02:25 |
| Frangel | just ignore i'm doing a work of the University | 02:26 |
| wuseman | Cool! What kind of Ubuntu project Frangel? | 02:29 |
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| Frangel | xd | 02:47 |
| Vasquez | si | 02:47 |
| Vasquez | ya tu sabes | 02:52 |
| Frangel | no se | 02:54 |
| wuseman | ¿Enlgish? | 02:56 |
| wuseman | english? | 02:56 |
| wuseman | Que? | 02:56 |
| Vasquez | que se dice | 02:57 |
| wuseman | Roll it! | 02:57 |
| enigma9o7 | ¡¿english!? | 02:57 |
| Frangel | no | 02:57 |
| wuseman | ¡si senior! | 02:57 |
| Frangel | jajaja | 02:58 |
| enigma9o7 | no beuno | 02:58 |
| enigma9o7 | bueno | 02:58 |
| Frangel | lol | 02:58 |
| enigma9o7 | ¡hola, soy dora! | 02:58 |
| Vasquez | hola dora | 02:58 |
| Frangel | hello dora la exploradora | 02:58 |
| Frangel | soy jose | 02:59 |
| enigma9o7 | josé? | 02:59 |
| Frangel | yes | 02:59 |
| wuseman | Welcome to Ubuntu! | 02:59 |
| Frangel | thanks | 02:59 |
| Vasquez | probando lubuntu :D | 03:00 |
| Frangel | were are your from? | 03:00 |
| wuseman | I do Ubuntu on Android xD | 03:00 |
| jose | just in case, that is not myself | 03:00 |
| enigma9o7 | Btw, this channel is meant for ubuntu support questions, there's #ubuntu-offtopic for non support related discussion and general chat. There's also likely #ubuntu-es or something similar for spanish. | 03:00 |
| Frangel | como | 03:00 |
| wuseman | Thanks for letting us know enigma9o7. Im new here. | 03:00 |
| Frangel | is real | 03:00 |
| wuseman | What about colombia? | 03:01 |
| wuseman | ubuntu-sp? | 03:01 |
| wuseman | or #ubuntu-co? | 03:01 |
| Frangel | como sabes | 03:01 |
| enigma9o7 | theyspeak spanish in columbia bruh, es is short for español | 03:01 |
| Frangel | yes | 03:01 |
| wuseman | What about brasil? | 03:01 |
| Frangel | col | 03:01 |
| enigma9o7 | -pt or -br probably | 03:02 |
| wuseman | lmao! I got it, thanks for letting me know. I rather stay on topic in here! :) | 03:02 |
| wuseman | ¡jajaja! What is this channel for then? | 03:02 |
| wuseman | If it's not about discussing with ubuntu friends? | 03:02 |
| wuseman | Let me know so I can be on topic. | 03:03 |
| enigma9o7 | i dont think there's seprate channel for latin america vs spain spanish. | 03:03 |
| enigma9o7 | wuseman: support questions | 03:03 |
| wuseman | enigma9o7: ok. gotcha, I stay on topic from now. | 03:03 |
| enigma9o7 | Check the channel topic. | 03:03 |
| Frangel | me vale verga | 03:03 |
| wuseman | enigma9o7: Good point! I got it hidden, i fix it! | 03:03 |
| Vasquez | uhmm ok | 03:04 |
| enigma9o7 | we even let people in here use american english | 03:04 |
| wuseman | omg I got old topic enable and not new, now it's fixed! Sorry for being offtopic. | 03:04 |
| Vasquez | np | 03:05 |
| Frangel | fumas? | 03:06 |
| Vasquez | adios dora | 03:06 |
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| ubergeek47 | So what is new in Ubuntu 23.10? | 05:12 |
| ubergeek47 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XhbMtfKtDS/ | 05:13 |
| nightbacklol | 05:31 | |
| nightbacklol | hi | 05:31 |
| ubergeek47 | hi you | 05:34 |
| ubergeek47 | Can you edit this to make it look presentable in the usual way devs accept bug reports https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/25315 I don't want negative impressioms going against my freedom-foundation project | 06:11 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 25315 in openssl/openssl "ACME ANVIL BUG" [Open] | 06:11 | |
| ubergeek47 | Hello is anybody here? | 06:14 |
| CosmicDJ | ubergeek47: depends | 06:14 |
| ubergeek47 | hey cosmic | 06:15 |
| sacarde | hi | 06:22 |
| sacarde | when point release 24.04.1 will go out? | 06:22 |
| ubergeek47 | sacarde good question: why isn't my Ubuntu countdown app widget showing the next release? | 06:23 |
| ubergeek47 | it's like you know | 06:24 |
| younder | Yeah, Its late. Must be some stability issues to resolved. Connected to the many phasing-errors I get during updates perhaps? | 06:36 |
| gebbione | good morning, i love waking up to a new problem on ubuntu... update run last evening and dual screen doesnt work again :( | 06:40 |
| ubergeek47 | geb call support if you paid | 06:44 |
| momken | hello | 06:48 |
| momken | How can I make guake to actually drop down instead of popping up? | 06:48 |
| ubergeek47 | momken I don't know what you are talking about | 06:56 |
| momken | I want guake to actually drop down from the top of screen instead of popping up from middle of screen | 06:56 |
| momken | dropping down is more beautiful | 06:57 |
| momken | I searched with no result | 06:57 |
| ubergeek47 | what is guake | 06:58 |
| ubergeek47 | sounded like a game | 06:58 |
| momken | it is a terminal window inspired from the terminal in Quake game | 06:59 |
| momken | sudo apt install quake | 06:59 |
| momken | It is make for gnome. The is also one for KDE named yakuake | 07:00 |
| ubergeek47 | wow neat | 07:06 |
| ubergeek47 | I had that vision of putting the proprietary terminal in quake or a game | 07:06 |
| ubergeek47 | or doing an on the fly toolchain of gameboy and piping it all cryptography into an imaginary computer in the game | 07:07 |
| ubergeek47 | like CIA level stuff " this control unit will self deatruct " | 07:08 |
| ubergeek47 | what song is that where whistles go off is it mission impossible | 07:09 |
| stu | sacarde: https://warthogs.atlassian.net/browse/RTMP-1809 | 07:27 |
| stu | 24.04.1 scheduled to release later today | 07:35 |
| sacarde | ok, thanks | 07:35 |
| ubergeek47 | why don't you do a blog with me and hold hands | 07:38 |
| ubergeek47 | we can do a zoom conference call and come up with blog posts like because memory leak is rampant im software reboot the machine as much as possible after disabling any swap or persistent RAM | 07:39 |
| ubergeek47 | s/im/in | 07:40 |
| ubergeek47 | expand that coreessahe to a 1 page blog entry | 07:41 |
| ubergeek47 | 5 paragraph power writing | 07:41 |
| ubergeek47 | momken hey | 07:42 |
| ubergeek47 | will you | 07:42 |
| ubergeek47 | stu what a junk fdroid app Ubuntu countdown | 07:46 |
| ubergeek47 | it said nothing about a release tomorrow | 07:46 |
| ubergeek47 | did you get my paste? | 07:46 |
| ubergeek47 | why are you guys pushing bpaste when Ubuntu has it | 07:47 |
| oerheks | nobody is pushing bpaste | 07:57 |
| ubergeek47 | oerheks read the topic | 08:05 |
| oerheks | it is just a suggestion, no rule | 08:05 |
| ubergeek47 | okay | 08:07 |
| stu | ubergeek47: look at where it says "Due Date:" | 09:17 |
| ubergeek47 | Stu what says | 09:29 |
| stu | why would you make claims about what is says or doesn't say if you're not reading it yourself | 09:35 |
| ubergeek47 | I was writing it | 09:36 |
| gebbione | hi, i was pointed out that stuff like this https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/revoking-vulnerable-windows-boot-managers/ba-p/4121735 might affect my ubuntu install -> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2500132. The ubuntu installation I have is latest, how can i verify that indeed this is either causing or not the problem? My system boots and i get a shell so i doubt it is the root cause but still I am stuck | 09:36 |
| oerheks | gebbione, windows or linux boots in a shell? | 09:38 |
| oerheks | i understood windows, yesterday | 09:38 |
| gebbione | windows works flawlessly, ubuntu shows blackscreen but i can still CTRL + ALT F* into a shell | 09:39 |
| gebbione | oerheks, yea if i remember right you shared the links | 09:39 |
| ubergeek47 | what version of windows | 09:40 |
| ubergeek47 | last I used was 7 and 10 | 09:40 |
| gebbione | 11 home | 09:40 |
| ubergeek47 | it had a built in dream catcher | 09:41 |
| ubergeek47 | then it rained and my laptop rusted out | 09:41 |
| gebbione | like freddy krueger? :) | 09:41 |
| ubergeek47 | had it for 3 days enough to see what it had | 09:41 |
| oerheks | not related to ubuntu support, ubergeek47 | 09:41 |
| oerheks | gebbione, try to run updates again, or fix with apt install -f | 09:42 |
| ubergeek47 | I need to go clear my ram of memory leaks TTYL | 09:42 |
| gebbione | oerheks, tried many times. I ll give it another shot now | 09:42 |
| ubergeek47 | they would probably murder you by lack of rem | 09:43 |
| ubergeek47 | they maybe tryed on me | 09:44 |
| ubergeek47 | okay TTYL | 09:45 |
| ubergeek47 | see if the mom want's to work on a blog with me | 09:45 |
| oerheks | !ot | 09:46 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 09:46 |
| TomyWork | https://gist.github.com/TomyLobo/b60e7e90b039330b162de2b9caf85d53 I'm trying to see if i can make my CPU slow down a little so it doesn't heat the room as much (it's gonna be 34°C outside today). i dont know about you, but 2,5 GHz seems a lot at 8% usage | 09:46 |
| TomyWork | this is while on the "power-saver" profile | 09:46 |
| ubergeek47 | we can do a zoom conference call and come up with blog posts like: because memory leak is rampant in software reboot the machine as much as possible after disabling any swap or persistent RAM. expand that core message to a 1 page blog entry using 5 paragraph power writing | 09:47 |
| TomyWork | ubergeek47, that ubottu message was for you | 09:48 |
| ubergeek47 | oh | 09:48 |
| ubergeek47 | later | 09:48 |
| ubergeek47 | talk to you later | 09:48 |
| gordonjcp | TomyWork: I thought bots weren't allowed in here? | 09:48 |
| TomyWork | gordonjcp, I dunno, check the IRC guidelines link in the topic... specifically its hostname | 09:49 |
| oerheks | gordonjcp, ubotto is the official ubuntu helper | 09:49 |
| gordonjcp | oerheks: I meant ubergeek47 | 09:49 |
| oerheks | oh ubergeek, just a troll | 09:49 |
| gordonjcp | oerheks: obviously not ubottu ;-) | 09:49 |
| gordonjcp | oerheks: ubergeek47 is a chatbot | 09:49 |
| gordonjcp | has to be | 09:50 |
| TomyWork | i dont think so. chatbots dont react the way they did to my indirect message | 09:51 |
| TomyWork | anyway, any idea how to throttle down my CPU? :D | 09:52 |
| gordonjcp | TomyWork: fair enough | 09:52 |
| gordonjcp | TomyWork: ouch, 34° is not fun, where's that? | 09:53 |
| TomyWork | northeast germany | 09:53 |
| TomyWork | switching to power-saver has helped a little, at least the fans seem quieter | 09:54 |
| gordonjcp | TomyWork: ah, I was in Vienna recently, it was hot as | 09:54 |
| gordonjcp | it needs more green spaces to be really livable in summer | 09:54 |
| gordonjcp | anyway -ot | 09:54 |
| gordonjcp | right | 09:54 |
| TomyWork | but it's still screeching like an airplane turbine | 09:54 |
| gordonjcp | if you've got cpupower installed I believe you can actually set the clock frequency directly | 09:55 |
| oerheks | i would stick to power profiles, | 09:56 |
| TomyWork | https://gist.github.com/TomyLobo/b60e7e90b039330b162de2b9caf85d53 I amended the gist to show info from cpupower | 09:57 |
| TomyWork | apparently it can clock down all the way to 400 | 09:58 |
| TomyWork | oerheks, well that only gets it down to 1600, at best | 09:59 |
| TomyWork | seen a 1400 on one of the cores | 10:01 |
| TomyWork | ok, "watch cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu[0-9]*/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq" tells a different story. some of them do reach 400 mhz | 10:09 |
| gebbione | sometimes when an update is done, certain modules sometimes trigger some reinstallation for the kernel. Is there a way to do it for all kernels installed? | 10:29 |
| ravage | the kernel is nerver reinstalled. the initramfs get updated: sudo update-initramfs -u -k all | 10:30 |
| gebbione | that is what i meant | 10:31 |
| gebbione | thank you | 10:32 |
| gebbione | oerheks, i have done " try to run updates again, or fix with apt install -f" but still stuck. Any other suggestions? | 10:34 |
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| mgedmin | gebbione: so your system boots but only to a shell? have you tried sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^ ? | 10:40 |
| gebbione | mgedmin, i just did and now after rebooting the screen is completely black | 10:41 |
| mgedmin | this should install any packages that are part of the standard install if they somehow got removed | 10:41 |
| gebbione | should i CTRL ALT F7 ? | 10:41 |
| mgedmin | so, black screen but ctrl-alt-f2 gives you a tty login prompt? | 10:41 |
| gebbione | no now it is completely black | 10:41 |
| gebbione | no output | 10:42 |
| mgedmin | what kind of graphics do you have on this system? (nvidia/amd/intel?) | 10:42 |
| gebbione | Intel ARC - more details here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2500132 I have tried to troubleshoot it for a while now | 10:42 |
| gebbione | i guess my only option is to try and load recovery mode | 10:44 |
| gebbione | by rebooting :( | 10:44 |
| gebbione | also the shell is gone now | 10:44 |
| gebbione | or any output | 10:44 |
| mgedmin | huh | 10:44 |
| gebbione | keyboard is lighting up | 10:47 |
| mgedmin | do graphics work if you boot a live sesson from a usb drive? | 10:47 |
| vlt | mgedmin: Yes. | 10:48 |
| mgedmin | did some update break this? | 10:48 |
| vlt | mgedmin: Sorry, I mis-read your question. | 10:48 |
| oerheks | maybe the release of 24.04.1 today fixes things | 10:49 |
| gebbione | mgedmin, interesting, i get login UX now | 10:49 |
| gebbione | i just restarted | 10:49 |
| gebbione | i hope this is the end of this problem | 10:49 |
| oerheks | arc is pretty recent | 10:50 |
| gebbione | I am in, i m so happy :) | 10:50 |
| gebbione | i ll dmesg and journalctl to check if i can see any errors | 10:50 |
| gebbione | not great though, screen flickering and ubuntu detected a problem | 10:51 |
| gebbione | I hope it gets somehow fixed with some drivers for stability | 10:52 |
| mgedmin | the 'detected a problem' dialog is probably a crash dump from the previous failed boot | 10:53 |
| gebbione | it would be nice if journalctl and dmesg output had log levels to just grep for errors, critical etc | 10:54 |
| gebbione | mgedmin, this is the latest dmesg output https://termbin.com/1odc not sure if anything else that would add stability can still be spotted | 10:55 |
| oerheks | you have bios version 304, but 308 is out https://www.asus.com/laptops/for-home/zenbook/asus-zenbook-14-oled-ux3405/helpdesk_bios?model2Name=UX3405MA | 11:25 |
| oerheks | gebbione, ^^ | 11:25 |
| gebbione | oerheks, would that be linked to the ux flickering | 11:25 |
| gebbione | flickering | 11:25 |
| oerheks | not sure, it could be, also run journalctrl | grep "Firmware" .. i see a firmware bug message too.. | 11:26 |
| ravage | I consider all bug reports void without all updates applied on a system :) | 11:26 |
| gebbione | ravage, are you referring to the bios in my case? | 11:27 |
| ravage | Yes | 11:27 |
| ravage | All components of your system really | 11:27 |
| oerheks | there is no way telling, without installing the update | 11:27 |
| gebbione | oerheks, is this the firmware you were looking at? 0.000000] [Firmware Bug]: TSC ADJUST: CPU0: -1257278099 force to 0 | 11:29 |
| oerheks | Yes | 11:29 |
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| oerheks | !rootirc | 11:47 |
| ubottu | It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. | 11:47 |
| gebbione | oerheks, it does not seem to have made a difference. I am logging in but still see some flickering when moving the mouse towards the bottom of the screen or around. Latest dmesg output https://termbin.com/urii still contains the firmware errors so i assume the bios update did not affect this | 12:07 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:30 |
| bomb | it's 29th, where is the 24.04.1?? | 12:35 |
| sacarde | eh! | 12:37 |
| leftyfb | bomb: is September 29th over? | 12:37 |
| geirha | 24.04.1 | 13:04 |
| leftyfb | geirha: it should be releases today | 13:05 |
| geirha | *is* out, just not the images yet | 13:05 |
| geirha | * is next to enter key, so I accidentally sent it early | 13:05 |
| oerheks | upgrade path is not out, just relax and wait | 13:05 |
| geirha | after an apt upgrade /etc/os-release says 24.04.1 for me | 13:06 |
| leftyfb | geirha: ok, do you need any help with it? | 13:06 |
| geirha | no, I was answering bomb | 13:06 |
| bomb | geirha I need my image | 13:08 |
| ravage | why? | 13:10 |
| bomb | I'll dd that ISO onto USB | 13:11 |
| ravage | Great. And why do you need the latest point release for that right now? | 13:12 |
| bomb | saves me time on package upgrades during the installation. and it might have some bug fixes in the installer too | 13:14 |
| ravage | maybe. if you need to install a system right now the 24.04 iso works just fine | 13:14 |
| ravage | if not just wait | 13:14 |
| bomb | oh yeah, I'm on 24.04 right now. I have some other boxes running pop os 22.04 | 13:15 |
| ravage | so not relevant to the release at all | 13:16 |
| bomb | I will install fresh Ubuntu on those popos boxes | 13:17 |
| bomb | are we really discussing that the .1 point releases shouldn't exist, ravage ? | 13:17 |
| ravage | i just dont understand why you need that right now | 13:18 |
| oerheks | we are discussing your impatience 🤪 | 13:18 |
| bomb | I mean, there are rolling release distros for that. I want my versioned distros in my USB | 13:18 |
| bomb | oerheks hehe | 13:18 |
| oerheks | #ubuntu-release-party | 13:18 |
| ravage | is that a thing for a point release? | 13:18 |
| oerheks | not sure, lets see | 13:19 |
| bomb | I'm on Ubuntu (on and off) since 6.06 | 13:20 |
| bomb | I'm so happy this project exists | 13:21 |
| mgedmin | ravage: the bootloader on 24.04 iso images is affected by the sbat policy installed by a recent windows update, so there may be very legitimate reasons for waiting for 24.04.1 iso images | 13:22 |
| ravage | im not in need of any ISO here | 13:23 |
| bomb | I do. thanks for pointing that out mgedmin | 13:23 |
| ravage | at least for the Ubuntu desktop ISO yesterdays's daily is the release candidate anyway. but that was yesterday's news | 13:25 |
| ravage | have not heard anything today | 13:25 |
| * oerheks removes dust of F5 https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/ | 13:26 | |
| ravage | im sure omgubuntu is hitting that key hard already to release the news first before any official announcement. like always | 13:26 |
| sam_wong | Hi, I am running ubuntu 24.04 and it works just fine. However, when I used the "systemctl suspend" command to temporarily suspend ubuntu, it didn't always work. Most recently, the screen got blackened immediately but all cooling fans and LED were still activated. The worst was that it couldn't be woken up later on because of the unresponsive of both keyboard and mouse. I had no alternative but to unplug the power cord from the wall. | 13:27 |
| sam_wong | Any comments are appreciated. | 13:27 |
| oerheks | maybe a HW problem https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-suspendfail.html.en | 13:31 |
| oerheks | i stopped bothering about sleep/suspend | 13:31 |
| sam_wong | oerheks: As my computer is quite old, it would take some times to boot up. That's why I just want to temporarily suspend it for lunch or dinner. | 13:33 |
| NDPMacBook | sam_wong: Is it a desktop? | 14:00 |
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| Minvera | which release? otf, ttf, vf, woff, woff2? https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-code-pro/releases | 14:05 |
| Minvera | nevermind | 14:16 |
| sam_wong | NDPMacBook: It is a desktop. Socket 1156 DDR3 8G ram | 14:40 |
| NDPMacBook | sam_wong: Since it is a desktop why use suspend at all? | 14:40 |
| NDPMacBook | Just run a screen saver. | 14:40 |
| sam_wong | NDPMacBook: for the sake of power saving and because it is noisy too | 14:41 |
| NDPMacBook | Ahhh ok | 14:42 |
| sam_wong | NDPMacBook: The command sometimes worked and sometimes didn't | 14:43 |
| sam_wong | NDPMacBook: The website suggests it can be a hardware problem but doesn't specify in detail. I guess the display card may be the culprit. | 14:44 |
| NDPMacBook | See if there's any firmware updates for your card. | 14:46 |
| NDPMacBook | Check the vendor's website. | 14:46 |
| sam_wong | It is a Radeon HD series display card which most users of Linux recommended | 14:48 |
| GodGinrai | I have a systemd unit that needs to run after X has started and the xinitrc has finished running. However, despite usinng both Require and After to show the dependency on my X service, there is a race condition where it runs before the xinitrc runs. Is there a way to make my service wait for xinitrc to finish before running? | 14:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sam_wong: have you tried suspend without systemd? | 14:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | say pm-utils | 14:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | what does your systemd unit look like. I think it would be after not require | 15:00 |
| GodGinrai | I'm using both. Require to signal that my service cannot run without X and After to indicate it should not start until after X. (and it does start after X has started, but before the xinitrc is executed) | 15:01 |
| sam_wong | sixwheeledbeast: No, I didn't know that | 15:01 |
| sam_wong | sixwheeledbeast: I should give it a trial next time | 15:03 |
| sam_wong | sixwheeledbeast: I used systemctl not systemd | 15:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sam_wong: systemctl is a systemd command. It's a suggestion to rule something out. you may need to install pm-utils and try pm-suspend. See if that works. | 15:07 |
| sam_wong | sixwheeledbeast: thanks a lot. | 15:07 |
| ubuntu_ | hoola | 15:08 |
| sam_wong | sixwheeledbeast: "man suspend" returns "No manual entry for suspend". There seems no such a command on Linux | 15:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | GodGinrai: Have you tried After=graphical.target or maybe After=multi-user.target | 15:10 |
| GodGinrai | sixwheeledbeast: graphical.target is another dep listed in my After | 15:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | After is suppose to wait until it's completed. The .targets are groups of dependencies. I find it's better to use those to make sure all related dependencies are finished | 15:16 |
| xmeneses | hola | 15:20 |
| GodGinrai | sixwheeledbeast: I've got the target as an After dep. I think the issue is that the xinitrc is possibly getting executed as a separate process from the process executed by startx, so it doesn't wait for that to finish before running the dependant services. | 15:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | if it's not in the dependancy tree you can't wait for it. | 15:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't use startx like this, I imagine there is some workaround. | 15:44 |
| GodGinrai | yea, if I get desparate I might just have a spinlock wait on a file to be created. | 15:55 |
| GodGinrai | which I can just touch at the end of the xinitrc | 15:55 |
| GodGinrai | (and delete after my service executes) | 15:55 |
| GodGinrai | *desperate | 15:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast | quick search online seem to have hits for After=graphical.target systemd-user-sessions.service | 16:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | systemd-user-sessions is a service that completes when /run/nologin is reomved at boot. | 16:07 |
| GodGinrai | I included systemd-user-sessions.service in the unit for my X service, but I don't believe I did for the service that depennds on X. I'll try that. | 16:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | not sure if that's helpful | 16:08 |
| oerheks | https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/ | 16:23 |
| toddc | oerheks: cool thank you!!! | 16:24 |
| bomb | yay. congrats | 16:25 |
| pa | toddc, odd.. in my case i did reinstall the kernel module package, but it doesn't work still | 17:26 |
| toddc | who was helping you? | 17:30 |
| toddc | pa or at least wha is the issue but sounds a bit out of my area to help with? | 17:32 |
| Crepe | hi | 18:55 |
| Crepe | is it true Mark Shuttleworth is gay? | 18:55 |
| Crepe | and if that's true: why? | 18:55 |
| Crepe | I mean..., why would he? | 18:55 |
| ravage | is it already troll o'clock again? time flies | 18:56 |
| delsol_laptop | Crepe: why wouldn't he? | 18:56 |
| Crepe | !ops | ravage he called me troll | 18:56 |
| ubottu | ravage he called me troll: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 18:56 |
| ravage | hey ops! | 18:56 |
| Crepe | delsol_laptop aren't enough women so he actually has to kiss another men? | 18:56 |
| Crepe | really? | 18:56 |
| ravage | 🙂 | 18:57 |
| delsol_laptop | Crepe: Look, I'm not saying if he's gay or not.. I don't give a shit. But why the fuck does it matter if a person wants to kiss men or women or both or neither? | 18:57 |
| ravage | never feed the (k-lined) trolls 🙂 | 18:57 |
| delsol_laptop | We can make a big multi-dimensional matrix of DNA, DNA expressed, mental, expressing as genders... of both themselves and of their partners..... and fill in all the boxes with "Sure, go ahead". | 18:59 |
| delsol_laptop | Every fucking one. | 18:59 |
| ravage | Let's stay on topic. Also please use family friendly language only here. | 19:00 |
| ubuntupuntukuntu | You literally banned me for saying Mark Shuttleworth is gay. That's so anti LGBT. | 19:04 |
| ubuntupuntukuntu | Hi casper | 19:05 |
| ubuntupuntukuntu | !ask | 19:06 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 19:06 |
| ubuntupuntukuntu | Do you have any question regarding Mark Shuttleworth's sexual affairs? | 19:06 |
| ubuntupuntukuntu | He went to the moon | 19:06 |
| leftyfb | !op | ubuntupuntukuntu | 19:06 |
| ubottu | ubuntupuntukuntu: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 19:06 |
| ubuntupuntukuntu | Hi lefty | 19:07 |
| ubuntupuntukuntu | You deserve living in Russia, you'll become rigthy or you'll die | 19:07 |
| Square | What would be the fastest remote desktop protocol from a new computer to a low power computer from ca 2013? Both running ubuntu | 19:33 |
| Square | RDP or VNC. Takes several minutes to create a connection with RDP it seems | 19:34 |
| leftyfb | Square: let me ask, what do you need to do on the old machine once you are connected? | 19:39 |
| luca__ | Hello! Does someone knows when upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 will be available? | 19:39 |
| leftyfb | luca__: we do not know | 19:40 |
| tarzeau | luca__: it's been there since april? | 19:41 |
| leftyfb | no | 19:41 |
| tarzeau | no? | 19:41 |
| tarzeau | you can't just do-release-upgrade with the right option? | 19:41 |
| luca__ | i am talking about upgrading without reinstall | 19:41 |
| leftyfb | the standard upgrade process from a machine running 22.04 LTS to 24.04 LTS has not been available as of yet | 19:41 |
| tarzeau | luca__: yes, me too | 19:41 |
| leftyfb | tarzeau: not in a supported mannerm no | 19:41 |
| tarzeau | leftyfb: but it can be done, in a unsupported manner | 19:42 |
| leftyfb | tarzeau: using -d, yes, but that's not supported | 19:42 |
| tarzeau | but it is available, and the question if it was available. not available supported | 19:42 |
| GodGinrai | sixwheeledbeast: That didn't end up working, but I ended up solving it with a spinlock. | 19:42 |
| leftyfb | they meant the supported method | 19:42 |
| tarzeau | that was not clear to me | 19:43 |
| leftyfb | and in here, we only provide support for supported methods and software | 19:43 |
| matep | GUYS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH BEING GAY????? WHY DO YOU BAN ME FOR JUST ASKING WHETHER SHUTTLEWORTH *MIGHT* BE GAY. DO YOU HATE GAYS???? GO TO RUSSIA THEN | 19:48 |
| gotaquestion | What ks better kde.or gnome? | 19:50 |
| bomb | vim | 19:50 |
| gotaquestion | I'm currently using gaybunti, by Mark, but works too fast | 19:50 |
| bomb | ehh | 19:51 |
| gotaquestion | He got mad | 19:51 |
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| pa | toddc well after upgrade, reinstalled kernel module, but vm fails to start. Rebooted to 6.5, reinstalled kernel module, vm starts | 19:55 |
| pa | nobody helping, but last time this happened, it was a problem reported by others. This time idk.. | 19:55 |
| matlabb | I'm having an error while trying to update snap | 20:03 |
| matlabb | I'm using sudo snap refresh and it keeps giving an error | 20:03 |
| matlabb | Hi?? | 20:04 |
| Amokai | hii | 20:04 |
| matlabb | I'm paying for Ubuntu pro and I should have lower SLA than the average user | 20:05 |
| matlabb | HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYY ANYONE THERE??? | 20:06 |
| enigma9o7 | matlabb, nobody can help you if you don't describe the error. Perhaps share complete output on a pastebin. | 20:06 |
| gordonjcp | enigma9o7: it's the same person as before | 20:07 |
| matlabb | Sure | 20:07 |
| matlabb | It says snap is locked by another process | 20:07 |
| enigma9o7 | As to paid ubuntu pro, I believe that's supported by canoncial? Not sure, but this channel is user to user support. | 20:07 |
| matlabb | This channel is official support according to my document | 20:08 |
| enigma9o7 | gordonjcp: I bet lots of people have asked questions before, why does that matter? | 20:08 |
| enigma9o7 | Your document speaks the truth. | 20:08 |
| gordonjcp | enigma9o7: same IPv6 subnet as the person that's been kickedbanned about five times in the past hour... | 20:08 |
| enigma9o7 | matlabb: try web searching for that errror message "ubuntu snap locked by another process" maybe can find some clues | 20:09 |
| matlabb | O guess there's a lack of ipv6 addresses | 20:10 |
| matlabb | That's why ipv8 is the future | 20:10 |
| leftyfb | matlabb: if you have a paid Ubuntu pro account, you would have been provided methods of contacting Canonical for support. Please refer to that documentation for support | 20:10 |
| matlabb | Enigma... Your answers do honor to your nick | 20:11 |
| leftyfb | matlabb: or call +1737 2040291. Good luck | 20:11 |
| matlabb | That's lgtbi office? | 20:11 |
| leftyfb | !op | matlabb | 20:12 |
| ubottu | matlabb: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 20:12 |
| gordonjcp | sarnold: good work with the noise abatement | 20:14 |
| sarnold | gordonjcp lol :D | 20:14 |
| gordonjcp | sarnold: remember when they just used to come in from that ISP and say "!list" and then quit again? | 20:15 |
| gordonjcp | maybe you'd get a "hola" first | 20:15 |
| sarnold | gordonjcp: oh the steady stream of 'hola' folks are in #debian on oftc now | 20:15 |
| gordonjcp | heh | 20:16 |
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| justl | Esv, hi | 20:36 |
| enigma9o7 | !list | 20:37 |
| ubottu | enigma9o7: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type «/msg ubottu !bot». If you're looking for a channel, see «/msg ubottu !alis». | 20:37 |
| justl | !ops enigma is abusing the bot | 20:37 |
| leftyfb | justl: welcome. Are you looking for Ubuntu support? | 20:38 |
| enigma9o7 | I think thats an exaturation. I wasn't attempting abuse, when !list was mentioned earlier I wondered if their was a bot here serving files, perhaps isos, but appears there is not. | 20:38 |
| === justl is now known as leftylgtb | ||
| leftyfb | enigma9o7: btw, you can /msg ubottu and check commands | 20:38 |
| leftylgtb | Hi kjartan | 20:38 |
| leftyfb | !op leftylgtb | looks like he's not on ipv6 anymore | 20:39 |
| leftyfb | !op | leftylgtb | looks like he's not on ipv6 anymore | 20:39 |
| ubottu | leftylgtb | looks like he's not on ipv6 anymore: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 20:39 |
| oerheks | justl, no name-clone please, thanks | 20:39 |
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| marikon-ia | Better this? | 20:41 |
| === marikon-ia is now known as marikonia | ||
| marikonia | Hey | 20:41 |
| enigma9o7 | leftyfb: in fact I did try msg it first, and already got that response. But doesn't mean there isn't another bot in here serving files. Especially if someone was constantly checking it in an automated manner, perhaps it was scripted to monitor for new releases or whatever. | 20:41 |
| marikonia | Enigma, wanna see some fun fact? | 20:42 |
| marikonia | Ubottu is a supybot | 20:42 |
| marikonia | !roulette | 20:42 |
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| oerheks | please no AI bot .. | 20:43 |
| marikonia | Lol I'm not a bot | 20:43 |
| oerheks | Eric^^ you are wanted in #lotus.. | 20:44 |
| marikonia | !op | 20:44 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 20:44 |
| marikonia | Orrheks | 20:44 |
| marikonia | He's promoting another channels | 20:44 |
| marikonia | !op | 20:45 |
| marikonia | !op | 20:45 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 20:45 |
| marikonia | !op | 20:45 |
| marikonia | !op | 20:45 |
| oerheks | #lotus.. is not the full name, mind your own business guest marikonia | 20:45 |
| marikonia | !gay | 20:46 |
| Square | leftyfb, I just want to use it to run spotify | 20:48 |
| Square | I connected in to a monitor + keyboard so now I can at least control it | 20:48 |
| leftyfb | Square: might I suggest running synergy between the 2 computers with only a monitor on the older one | 20:49 |
| Square | leftyfb, the old computer should standing some 5 meter from my desk. It's like a media pc for audio only. | 20:51 |
| Square | should be* | 20:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | if you have a premium account there are headless wrappers and clients you could make work over say ssh. | 21:04 |
| lubuntu_ | hola | 21:10 |
| magus | Do I need an antivirus or malwareblocker on Ubuntu 24.04? | 21:17 |
| enigma9o7 | Not if you stick with things from ubuntu repo. If you're installing snaps and 3rd party stuff, only if you don't trust the source. | 21:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | generally not | 21:18 |
| oerheks | indeed, you are the malware blocker | 21:18 |
| magus | Roger that. Thank you all. | 21:18 |
| oerheks | firewall and fail2ban can be handy with a service reachable from the outside | 21:19 |
| magus | Thank you. | 21:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | that doesn't mean malware doesn't exist | 21:21 |
| magus | True | 21:23 |
| Square | is there some slimmed down version of ubuntu that is suitable for old PCs? | 21:24 |
| oerheks | old 32 bit pcs? no | 21:24 |
| junyx | Square ubuntu server is running on my 2012 laptop | 21:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | try a lighter flavour or server if it's not for desktop use. | 21:24 |
| Square | Its an intel atom PC. So i guess it has 64 bits | 21:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | does the latest ubuntu come with chkrootkit installed now. i know I use it but wondered if it came as default. | 21:25 |
| enigma9o7 | 2GB memory? | 21:25 |
| Square | i want to use it to run spotify | 21:25 |
| Square | enigma9o7, that or 1gb | 21:26 |
| Square | I can open firefox and play youtube clips albeit choppy. | 21:26 |
| enigma9o7 | If only 1-2GB I'd go Antix. | 21:26 |
| oerheks | youtube and firefox .. interesting | 21:26 |
| enigma9o7 | Which is not Ubuntu. | 21:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ubuntu-mate with composter disabled maybe light enough. | 21:26 |
| Square | enigma9o7, will spotify install on Antix wo much hassle? | 21:26 |
| leftyfb | Square: sorry, but we can only support Ubuntu here | 21:27 |
| enigma9o7 | Not really appropriate for me to answer in ubuntu spport channel, I was already pushing limits by suggesting another distro :) | 21:27 |
| Square | Sorry. I'm only familiar with ubuntu so hoped there was such an alternative. | 21:28 |
| oerheks | spotify suggests snap. | 21:28 |
| leftyfb | I would suggest ncspot, a command line tool | 21:29 |
| leftyfb | though I haven't tried it myself | 21:29 |
| Square | I've tried it. But I believe only spotify client allows remote control. | 21:31 |
| leftyfb | run it over ssh | 21:32 |
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| Square | smart, but I really want to get the remote control function | 21:33 |
| Square | (from say a phone) | 21:33 |
| leftyfb | we're not going to support applications from your phone. You asked about accessing it from ubuntu. You can do that using a terminal and ssh'ing to your other machine | 21:34 |
| enigma9o7 | I would also suspect lubuntu/xubuntu could probably do it, if you're not trying to do anything much else at the same time.... | 21:38 |
| enigma9o7 | It'll just be quite slow getting things going. | 21:38 |
| Bashing-om | Square: Xubuntu with the "minimal" install might also be a viable option. | 21:51 |
| Square | Bashing-om, thanks | 22:13 |
| Square | Pretty fun. Terminal and Nautilus cannot be started on this machine because of timeout. | 22:14 |
| Square | (ubuntu 18.04) | 22:15 |
| Liquid | how do i change my defualt shell to fish? | 22:26 |
| ananke | Liquid: chsh | 22:28 |
| Liquid | ananke: i would just run chsh -s /usr/bin/fish? right? | 22:31 |
| cedar | Hello | 22:37 |
| cedar | I just upgraded to 24.04.1 from 22.04 and am stuck in a reboot loop | 22:38 |
| cedar | https://imgur.com/gallery/hSEBNHU | 22:43 |
| cedar | I boot, it gets to this, shows the login prompt, I login, it shows this, it shows the login prompt, rinse and repeat | 22:49 |
| cedar | i can login with ctrl alt f2 actually | 22:51 |
| cedar | Can anyone offer advice? | 22:55 |
| Bashing-om | cedar: If you edit the linux line to remove quiet splash in gurb's boot menu, are you then able to boot ? | 22:57 |
| cedar | sudo nano /etc/default/grub | 22:58 |
| cedar | Change line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" | 22:58 |
| cedar | is this what you mean? | 22:58 |
| cedar | Bashing-om, | 22:59 |
| Bashing-om | cedar: No, boot to the grub boot menu, 'e' key for edit screen - arrow down to the line starting with linux and delete quiet splash; xtl+x to continue the boot process. | 23:00 |
| Bashing-om | ctl+x * | 23:01 |
| cedar | Bashing-om, I see the line lnux but I don't see "quiet splash" | 23:07 |
| cedar | linux* | 23:07 |
| Bashing-om | cedar: Maybe was removed on 22.04 ?? you do not have similar "linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-24-generic root=UUID=dbd69ed2-530c-4409-8f5a-a3f1ea41fc67 ro quiet splash" ? | 23:10 |
| cedar | I have that but without the quiet splash | 23:11 |
| cedar | I removed it from /etc/default/grub in 22.04 | 23:12 |
| Bashing-om | cedar: So much for that thought - A broken graphic's driver ? boot back in terminal (F2) / does terminal command ' sudo lshw -C display ' show unclaimed ? | 23:13 |
| cedar | No it does not say that | 23:18 |
| cedar | just *-display | 23:18 |
| cedar | Bashing-om, | 23:18 |
| Bashing-om | cedar: We can then also "assume" the graphic's driver is loaded ... hummm ... what desktop are you using ? ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION ' | 23:21 |
| cedar | no output | 23:22 |
| cedar | but im just in the tty3 | 23:22 |
| cedar | Bashing-om, | 23:22 |
| Bashing-om | cedar: GUI failed to start - any joy ' sudo systemctl start graphical.target ' // or reported errors ? | 23:24 |
| cedar | nothing happened | 23:26 |
| cedar | in 22.04 I had install kde on regular ubuntu which had caused some issues like kde hijacking the login screen | 23:26 |
| cedar | Which it has done now as well | 23:27 |
| cedar | Bashing-om, resolution is also 800x600 instead of native at that login screen | 23:27 |
| Bashing-om | cedar: Sorry - KDE I have no idea of how it boots to the GUI // perhaps others here can render the aid :( | 23:28 |
| enigma9o7 | cedar: regarding "hijacking" the login screen, when you install sddm you werent prompted as to which login manager to use? Usually you get a popup asking you if youw anna keep using gdm3 or use sddm.... | 23:30 |
| cedar | enigma9o7, do you mean when I originally installed KDE? | 23:30 |
| enigma9o7 | Yes, whenever you originally installed sddm. | 23:30 |
| cedar | enigma9o7, I do not remember, but I am sure you are correct, I probably just selected to use sddm | 23:31 |
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| cedar | enigma9o7, thank you for the hint, I changed my default display manager back to gdm3 and now I can login! | 23:36 |
| Bashing-om | !cookie | enigma9o7 | 23:39 |
| ubottu | enigma9o7: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 23:39 |
| enigma9o7 | In theory tho any session manager should work for any DE, but hey, glad that it solved your problem! | 23:42 |
| Square | ...continuation on my problem: I cannot run spotify, terminal and file manager on a atom machine from 2013, running ubuntu 18.04, but I seem to be able to compile a ~300 dependency rust spotify daemon and get flawless playback. | 23:44 |
| Square | I found that fantastic. | 23:45 |
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