| nightbacklol | hi | 00:04 |
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| Your_Dog | Is this a bug? I just got a notif that my ubuntu version will stop receiving updates in 240 days (Ubuntu 22.04) but https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle says I should be supported atleast until 2027 | 00:51 |
| Your_Dog | I am on 24.04.4 to be exact | 00:52 |
| Geo | Hi, upgraded from 20 to 22, tried to run chromium and it didn't launch. I removed the package (chromium-browser) and reinstalled it, but doesn't launch and on the terminal it says "cannot create user directory: /home/user/snap/chromium/2934: Permission denied". (perms are all fine for the user). Looking at syslog, I see apparmor appears to be blocking it, with errors like "kernel: [78162.218266] | 01:27 |
| Geo | audit: type=1400 audit(1724783599.012:237): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" profile="/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine" pid=191887 comm="snap-confine" capability=12 capname="net_admin"" in the log. Thoughts on how to troubleshoot this? | 01:27 |
| sarnold | try a snap refresh, then a reboot, and then see how it goes | 01:29 |
| blahdeblah | Your_Dog: I assume you mean 22.04.04, since 24.04.04 isn't out yet. It used to be that desktop releases were supported for 3 years rather than 5. The page you linked seems to imply that's no longer the case, but maybe it's just documented somewhere else. | 01:30 |
| sysadmin29 | Hello, i'm trying to update from 22.04 to 24.04 and I'm running into The package 'ubuntu-release-upgrade-core' is marked for removal but it is in the removal deny list. In /var/log/dist-ugprade/main.log i shows the same error | 01:30 |
| sarnold | blahdeblah: aye, five years of support these days | 01:31 |
| sysadmin29 | I have two servers that i'm upgrading, both have had the same type of workflows. the first server upgraded with minor problems and can't seem to get past this on this second server | 01:31 |
| sarnold | sysadmin29: that's pretty unusual.. check the output of dpkg -l 'ubuntu*' | grep ^ii and make sure that you've got ubuntu-minimal, or ubuntu-server, or ubuntu-desktop, installed; my wild guess is that you're missing one of the usual helpful metapackages | 01:33 |
| DynV | I'd like to install the latest LTS, 24.04.1, on my secondary drive that I mainly use to put backups on, which is magnetic 7200 RPM pertitioned with exFAT. I have 270 Gb free on it, but I'd like to have a large portion of that for future backups. I found https://askubuntu.com/a/312819 but it's over a decade old. Is it a good method for my desired use, and are the proposed partion sizes large enough (I assume not) ? | 01:33 |
| sysadmin29 | sarnold: very weird, yeah it seems i'm missing ubuntu-server on this | 01:35 |
| sysadmin29 | reinstalled and running again | 01:35 |
| sarnold | DynV: "install to a drive" is a bit weirder these days, since you'll have one standard EFI filesystem on your computer and configure that to then boot the operating systems that probably live on the same drive, but might live on another drive .. | 01:35 |
| genii | Installing Linux to a filesystem like NTFS or exFAT will probably not end well | 01:35 |
| sarnold | sysadmin29: very weird. did reinstalling it suggest a missing package or something like that, that kept the metapackage from being installed? | 01:35 |
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| sarnold | DynV: I have no idea if our installer can shrink exfat or not. i'd be surprised. even if it says it can, make sure you have backups :) | 01:36 |
| sysadmin29 | sarnold: seemed to fail on a different package now, but similar to ubuntu-release-upgrade-core; installed both ubuntu-server and ubuntu-server-minimal. | 01:37 |
| sysadmin29 | Now the issue is: The package 'update-manager-core' is marked for removal but it is in the deny list | 01:38 |
| Your_Dog | blahdeblah: I see so I guess I really do have 240 days, oh well, still enough time for me to get to december where I will do the actual upgrade | 01:42 |
| blahdeblah | Your_Dog: see above message from sarnold - it should be 5 years, so a 240 day notification seems like a bug. I am on 22.04.04 and certainly didn't get the same message. | 01:44 |
| sarnold | blahdeblah: if you get a notification about it,a bug report for with screenshot would be keen :) | 01:45 |
| sysadmin29 | sarnold: Any ideas with the error now being for the package "update-manager-core"? | 01:52 |
| sarnold | sysadmin29: not really :( sometimes you can get lucky with an apt install update-manager-core .. and it'll give you some sort of message about a problem, but I don't think it'll be very helpful at the moment. i'm not sure. :( | 01:54 |
| sarnold | sysadmin29: maybe disabling other repositories that are configured, if any, but I thought the upgrader should have done that for you already | 01:55 |
| DynV | genii: I've done it a while back on my main drive, I think it was on Windows 7 that I had like 1/3 free space, and gave whichever distro I did it with about half of that. | 02:04 |
| DynV | I guess if I'm having a too hard time doing a real install, I can use a VM and use the image from the secondary drive. | 02:07 |
| Your_Dog | genii: i remember booting to ntfs works but it cant shutdown (lol) | 02:10 |
| === sam__ is now known as Guest1943 | ||
| pc | . | 03:33 |
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| pc | por que cuando instalo java no me sale para abrir un programa de java | 03:43 |
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| Guest3533 | quien es ese man ve johnner | 03:44 |
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| Guest3533 | como no a todo le puse nombre mio | 03:45 |
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| Guest3533 | yo soy yeison ramirez para que la nota se quede bien | 03:45 |
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| johnner | a ps ahì si no se, tocarìa indagar o preguntarle al profe | 03:45 |
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| Guest3533 | me voy a salir a ver | 03:48 |
| linux | ya estas | 03:49 |
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| Guest7390 | me coneter | 03:49 |
| Guest7390 | oer | 03:50 |
| Unit193 | johnner, Guest7390: Please keep it to Ubuntu support in here, this is also an English speaking channel. If you'd like assist in Spanish, there's #ubuntu-es. | 03:50 |
| === linux is now known as Guest5146 | ||
| Guest5146 | oe | 03:53 |
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| Guest5146 | no se que le pasa a esta bobada | 03:53 |
| linux | oe | 03:54 |
| Guest5146 | como estasa | 03:54 |
| === linux is now known as Guest7173 | ||
| Guest5146 | asda | 03:55 |
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| johnner | oe | 04:08 |
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| johnner | que te pasò | 04:15 |
| johnner | ... | 04:16 |
| johnner | todo bien | 04:16 |
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| === OurRoyalGabe_ is now known as OurRoyalGabe | ||
| Andres | Hola | 05:31 |
| May | Hola | 05:33 |
| Andres | Listo funciona | 05:33 |
| janne_ | Hello! | 05:33 |
| May | A mimir | 05:36 |
| May | Janne | 05:39 |
| satoshinakamoto | Ok | 06:22 |
| salty-horse | Hi. When upgrading to 22.04 to 24.04.1, I encountered some issues that I'm not sure where to report. After restart, grub failed to load with the error 'symbol grub_calloc not found' (I reinstalled grub from a rescue disk). Also, I'm using gnome-flashback and this memory leak issue makes it unusable. How can I get more attention to it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-keyboard/+bug/2055388 | 08:17 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2055388 in indicator-keyboard (Ubuntu) "suspected memory leak with indicator-keyboard (causing gnome-session-flashback to freeze after startup)" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 08:17 | |
| gebbione | hello | 08:21 |
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| slurm | people what is the best light linux that is not ubuntu? ubuntu and mint are too heavy now, they cannot run video smoothly, even of it is .mp4 compressed neither on VLC nor broswer youtube. the development has become too cluncky, what is a better alternative? | 08:49 |
| stu | There's always Debian | 08:49 |
| Unit193 | Or you could try mpv instead of vlc too. | 08:50 |
| slurm | stu: debian is very bad at installation, too bad to use i tried | 08:50 |
| daniel413006 | What about linux mint debian edition | 08:50 |
| slurm | let me try mpv | 08:50 |
| slurm | daniel413006: oh there is a mint/debian? interesting let me rea about it | 08:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | not an ubuntu question really. have you tried ubuntu flavours with a lighter de? | 08:51 |
| stu | ubuntu can get pretty light, try installing ubuntu server and installing a lightweight desktop manager like XFCE | 08:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I've actually found it's less the OS and more the browser that is heavy lately. firefox is full of bloat now. | 08:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | librewolf so much better for resources | 08:53 |
| daniel413006 | Falkon is also another good one. | 08:54 |
| slurm | sixwheeledbeast: i am feeling the same thing about firefox, unfortunatly the alternative is chrome which is worse | 08:56 |
| stu | librewolf is firefox minus bloat | 08:57 |
| stu | i mean literally... their build pipeline is mostly commenting out swaths of the latest firefox sources | 08:58 |
| slurm | hahaha | 09:01 |
| stu | anyone made the jump from ubuntu server 22.04 to 24.04.1 since it was released yesterday? i got a headless server with just a dozen docker services i want to upgrade. heard a couple of complaints about 22.04->24.04 today but they seem to be desktop people | 09:05 |
| Jim` | I'm getting | 09:30 |
| Jim` | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held by process 2690 (unattended-upgr) | 09:30 |
| Jim` | N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may break your system. | 09:30 |
| Jim` | E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using it? | 09:30 |
| Jim` | is the machine upgrading itself? | 09:31 |
| Jim` | it sure looks like it in top | 09:31 |
| Jim` | lsb_release is doing a lot of stuff | 09:31 |
| Jim` | along with unattended upgrade | 09:32 |
| Jim` | I just booted the machine for the first time in a while and did apt-get upgrade | 09:33 |
| Jim` | now it's not letting me dist-upgrade | 09:34 |
| Jim` | My bet is it's doing it's own updates right now? | 09:34 |
| ravage | yes it is installing updates | 09:36 |
| ravage | is this a server installation? | 09:36 |
| Jim` | ravage: I think that's what I went with :/ | 09:37 |
| Jim` | it's been al ong long time | 09:37 |
| Jim` | Welcome to Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.15.0-67-generic x86_64) | 09:37 |
| ravage | mkay. why not 24.04? 🙂 | 09:38 |
| Jim` | ravage: because it's been atleast 2+ years since I even plugged it in?? | 09:38 |
| ravage | the server comes with automatic security updates enabled | 09:38 |
| ravage | which is usually a good thing | 09:39 |
| Jim` | It looks like 22.04 still have some years left | 09:40 |
| ravage | it does | 09:40 |
| Jim` | I guess I"ll leave it plugged in and wait a few hours and let it do it's thing | 09:40 |
| ravage | https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle | 09:41 |
| ghodawalaaman | WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. | 09:41 |
| ghodawalaaman | why am I getting this error? | 09:42 |
| ravage | is is not an error. it is a warning | 09:42 |
| ghodawalaaman | it's suggesting that I shouldn't use apt in script? but why? | 09:42 |
| ghodawalaaman | s/error/warning | 09:42 |
| ravage | it also tells you why | 09:42 |
| ghodawalaaman | It says it doesn't have a stable CLI interface, but I haven't noticed it changes | 09:43 |
| ravage | maybe you should believe them unless you checked the code yourself | 09:43 |
| ghodawalaaman | what if I want to use something package manager related in a bash script? | 09:43 |
| ravage | you can always use apt-get | 09:43 |
| stu | apt is a wrapper for apt-get intended to improve user interactivity, if you're doing non-interactive stuff you should use apt-get instead of apt | 09:43 |
| ghodawalaaman | ohkk so if I want to use package manager in script I should use apt-get right? | 09:44 |
| ravage | right | 09:44 |
| ghodawalaaman | ravage stu Thanks :D | 09:44 |
| eipip1eq0 | I'm trying to update /etc/resolv.conf insider docker container, but it says this file is busy. I couldn't update this file. any idea? | 10:48 |
| Aliekezi | hi, since I updated from 22.04 to 24.04-1 I have different issues : some udisksd segfault errors and some apparmor denying a lot of things (i.e. the update-manager) | 12:14 |
| Aliekezi | I don't know if the udisks error is related to apparmor but it's a bit scaring | 12:15 |
| Aliekezi | Here are a sample of the dmesg errors : https://bpa.st/TWOQ | 12:15 |
| twelvnighn | ello | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:27 |
| DireWalker | Hi! | 12:39 |
| jenshae | Hello. I did an upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 via SSH and the power manager suspended the machine during the process. It is now in a poor state. Is there any repair tool I can use on it? | 13:29 |
| jenshae | (sudo apt install -f did not resolve the issue) | 13:30 |
| jenshae | Example of errors I am getting: Cannot load module /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-fcitx.so GLib version too old (micro mismatch) | 13:31 |
| JanC | this is a desktop system? | 13:32 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: the fcitx-frontend-gtk2 package, which provides that file, is not installed by default on ubuntu 24.04 | 13:33 |
| leftyfb | feel free to remove that package and see if it removes any packages you feel you still need | 13:34 |
| jenshae | Yes, desktop, my old / spare gaming PC. | 13:34 |
| jenshae | Welcome to Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS. 3 updates can be applied immediately. | 13:35 |
| jenshae | sudo apt clean && sudo apt update && apt list --upgradable ---> 775 packages can be upgraded. | 13:35 |
| jenshae | I just ran an update and upgrade. I think it is stuck between versions somehow. | 13:35 |
| JanC | maybe try full-upgrade instead of upgrade (but check it's not going to remove anything essential) | 13:36 |
| JanC | and you are probably right about "stuck between versions" | 13:37 |
| JanC | at least APT still works, it seems | 13:37 |
| jenshae | Command being: do-release-full-upgrade? | 13:38 |
| pickanick | 22.04.4 today has a popup: "Plasma Workspace \ Upgrade available \ Ubuntu on 24.04.1 LTS. This version will stop receiving updates and security fixes in 230 days. Is LTS only good for three years? | 13:39 |
| leftyfb | pickanick: maybe it's a plasma/kubuntu thing. Maybe try asking in #kubuntu | 13:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast | apt-get --fix-missing is usually what it prompts for if an update is interrupted? | 13:39 |
| jenshae | This says full-upgrade and dist-upgrade are the same?? https://askubuntu.com/questions/770135/apt-full-upgrade-versus-apt-get-dist-upgrade | 13:40 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: ok, is it currently doing updates? | 13:41 |
| JanC | jenshae: full-upgrade is what it is called with apt (vs. dist-upgrade with apt-get), but as it seemed like you use apt... :) | 13:42 |
| jenshae | sudo apt install --fix-missing --> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 775 not to upgrade. | 13:42 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: does sudo apt full-upgrade show any packages to upgrade? | 13:42 |
| jenshae | It seems to be holding back half of 22.04 because it has a dependency problem, maybe? Glibc for example could be too old? | 13:43 |
| JanC | it will probably show packages to upgrade, install _and_ remove | 13:43 |
| jenshae | 768 to upgrade, 239 to newly install, 76 to remove and 3 not to upgrade. | 13:43 |
| JanC | check the ones that will be removed to make sure nothing essential is in there | 13:43 |
| jenshae | *Crosses fingers* | 13:43 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: please run sudo apt full upgrade and let it finish | 13:43 |
| jenshae | I will reinstall it if it breaks completely, I mostly use it for live backups these days, boot it up, update, copy over files from my main PC then shut it down. | 13:45 |
| iconoclasthero | 22.04: i cannot change my global dns from 192.168.1.1 which is no longer my subnet address since tmoble fracked everything up. | 13:52 |
| leftyfb | iconoclasthero: server or desktop? | 13:53 |
| iconoclasthero | the gateway is 192.168.12.1 and I have other dns servers specified but it keeps defaulting to 192.168.1.1 and I cannot find where tha'ts coming from | 13:53 |
| iconoclasthero | desktop | 13:53 |
| leftyfb | iconoclasthero: why do you have other dns servers specified? | 13:53 |
| leftyfb | which other dns servers? | 13:53 |
| iconoclasthero | 1.0.0.1 and 8.8.8.8 | 13:53 |
| * leftyfb sigh | 13:53 | |
| iconoclasthero | cloudflare is the fastest for me. | 13:53 |
| leftyfb | that's not how client resolvers work | 13:54 |
| iconoclasthero | oh, i should trust tmoble instead? | 13:54 |
| iconoclasthero | i think this is off topic | 13:54 |
| iconoclasthero | 192.168.1.1 doesn't exist and that is what i'm trying to fix. | 13:54 |
| leftyfb | iconoclasthero: it verymuch is, you have a broken configuration to start with | 13:54 |
| * iconoclasthero signs | 13:54 | |
| iconoclasthero | sighs | 13:54 |
| leftyfb | iconoclasthero: is this machine set with dhcp or static ? | 13:54 |
| iconoclasthero | static | 13:55 |
| leftyfb | iconoclasthero: ok, please show your network manager configuration | 13:55 |
| iconoclasthero | 192.168.12.22 | 13:55 |
| leftyfb | screenshot it and post to imgur.com | 13:55 |
| iconoclasthero | working on it | 13:55 |
| iconoclasthero | don't have a browser open yet | 13:55 |
| leftyfb | and pastebin or screenshot any ohter custom network configurations you have done | 13:56 |
| iconoclasthero | https://imgur.com/a/HqnzDKp | 13:56 |
| iconoclasthero | resolvectl status: https://bpa.st/SRNQ | 13:58 |
| leftyfb | iconoclasthero: where are you seeing 192.168.1.1? Also, just know, that if you're configuring public resolvers like this, you will not be able to resolve local hostname using DNS | 13:58 |
| leftyfb | ah | 13:58 |
| leftyfb | ls -l /etc/resolv.conf | 13:58 |
| leftyfb | looks like you broke your local DNS resolver at some point | 13:58 |
| leftyfb | stub resolver | 13:59 |
| iconoclasthero | i use fixed ip addresses locally and refer to those instead of local host names. this is a secondary network for me so it's not really important i can e.g., 'ssh latitude' vs 'ssh 192.168.1.3' | 13:59 |
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| iconoclasthero | /etc/resolv.ctl: https://bpa.st/GW5A | 14:00 |
| iconoclasthero | s/.ctl/.conf | 14:00 |
| leftyfb | uh | 14:00 |
| leftyfb | resolvconf? | 14:00 |
| leftyfb | is this upgraded from 20.04? | 14:00 |
| iconoclasthero | doubt it. | 14:00 |
| leftyfb | then how/why did you install resolvconf? | 14:01 |
| iconoclasthero | it's not impossible, but i'm fairly sure this machine started with 22.04 | 14:01 |
| iconoclasthero | wait, back up. when did i do what? | 14:01 |
| leftyfb | iconoclasthero: apt-cache policy resolvconf | 14:01 |
| iconoclasthero | resolvconf: | 14:02 |
| iconoclasthero | Installed: 1.84ubuntu1 | 14:02 |
| leftyfb | yup, that shouldn't be installed on 22.04 | 14:02 |
| leftyfb | not by default anyway | 14:02 |
| iconoclasthero | i honestly cannot say how/why it is there. | 14:02 |
| iconoclasthero | i assume we could go back and look at the apt logs if they've not been rotated out | 14:03 |
| leftyfb | iconoclasthero: I would remove the resolvconf package, remove the resolv.conf link, link it to /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf instead and don't touch resolv.conf, let network manager/systemd manage it | 14:05 |
| iconoclasthero | https://bpa.st/XOAA | 14:05 |
| iconoclasthero | that's the oldest /var/log/apt/history.log[.9] that i have | 14:06 |
| leftyfb | not sure what information from that you think is useful | 14:06 |
| leftyfb | I would suggest following my instructions above | 14:06 |
| iconoclasthero | right after that i started installing things like quassel and ssh so i think that's the beginning of this system. it's 2023 so i think that means that it started as 22.04 | 14:06 |
| leftyfb | you have a mess there | 14:06 |
| iconoclasthero | sure, this is answering a previous question. | 14:07 |
| iconoclasthero | $ ll resolv.conf | 14:11 |
| iconoclasthero | lrwxrwxrwx 39 root 30 Aug 10:11 resolv.conf -> ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf | 14:11 |
| iconoclasthero | that looks like what you have above to me. that's how `apt remove resolveconf` left it. so i should be good after a reboot for `do-release-upgrade` ? | 14:12 |
| leftyfb | yup | 14:12 |
| leftyfb | uh | 14:12 |
| leftyfb | reboot, and lets check things out first | 14:12 |
| iconoclasthero | k | 14:12 |
| iconoclasthero | br | 14:12 |
| iconoclasthero | b | 14:12 |
| Square2 | How do I best start a daemon for a particular user on system startup? | 14:15 |
| leftyfb | Square2: systemd | 14:15 |
| iconoclasthero | https://bpa.st/YKOA | 14:16 |
| iconoclasthero | @square2 e.g.: [no sudo] `systemctl --user restart pipewire-pulse` | 14:16 |
| iconoclasthero | if you use sudo you'll get an error | 14:17 |
| iconoclasthero | "Failed to connect to bus: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not defined (consider using --machine=<user>@.host --user to connect to bus of other user)" | 14:17 |
| leftyfb | iconoclasthero: ipconfig? | 14:19 |
| iconoclasthero | it's a script | 14:19 |
| leftyfb | iconoclasthero: either way, looks like you're all set now. Make sure you can resolve | 14:19 |
| iconoclasthero | yeah, everything is resloving a shitload faster now so it's working properly | 14:20 |
| iconoclasthero | thank you very much for your assistance. | 14:20 |
| leftyfb | and if you're going to upgrade to 24.04, I would suggest you make sure you have your sources.list in order, all packages upgraded, and remove all 3rd party repositories and their related packages | 14:20 |
| iconoclasthero | third party sources get disabled by default in do-release-upgrade (as it turns out). | 14:21 |
| iconoclasthero | i made sure everything was upgraded already | 14:21 |
| leftyfb | the 3rd party packages should also be removed | 14:21 |
| leftyfb | you can reinstall them after | 14:21 |
| iconoclasthero | you want me to remove docker? wine? | 14:22 |
| leftyfb | if they're from 3rd party repositories, definitely | 14:22 |
| iconoclasthero | if i have to remove all the third party apps and then reinstall them what advantage is do-release-upgrade over just installing 24.04 over my exising / partition (which I could have done 4 months ago)? | 14:28 |
| Square2 | leftyfb, does that advice apply to ubuntu 18.04 too? | 14:33 |
| jenshae | It suspended again but I think it finished the full-upgrade. leftyfb is there a way to turn off system suspend when an SSH connection is active? | 14:33 |
| leftyfb | Square2: 18.04 is EOL and unsupported. Please upgrade | 14:33 |
| Square2 | =D | 14:34 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: it’s really not suggested to do release upgrades over ssh. Pretty sure it warns you about that | 14:34 |
| jenshae | Embrace snap! Resistance is futile Square2!!! Muhahahaha! | 14:34 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: let’s not | 14:34 |
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| jenshae | Okay but sitting in the other room starting at it doing a TTY process or going back and forth constantly isn't very convenient, so back to the question, is there a way to insert an IF statement somewhere "IF SSH=active THEN suspend=FALSE? | 14:36 |
| jenshae | staring* | 14:36 |
| iconoclasthero | can't you just turn suspend off for the time being? | 14:37 |
| iconoclasthero | just go to the power options and tell it to stay on 24/7? | 14:37 |
| iconoclasthero | (i don't know, my computers dont do that) | 14:37 |
| jenshae | It seems to only do that for the DE, not sure being logged into a GUI session is ideal? Is there a way to disable suspend on the login screen / with the display manager? | 14:39 |
| jenshae | Okay, for the most part, sudo apt full-upgrade seems to have fixed things, it is only holding back gcc-10-base x2 and guile-2.2-libs now. | 14:42 |
| jenshae | Are those critical or can I now maybe upgrade to 24.04? | 14:43 |
| jenshae | Does `do-release-upgrade` have a force flag? It is saying that I must do those three updates that it is holding back. | 14:46 |
| oerheks | install those manually | 14:47 |
| oerheks | sudo apt install <1> <2> <3> | 14:47 |
| jenshae | Could that not break or make the system unstable? There is usually a dependency problem if it is being held back, right? | 14:49 |
| oerheks | no, phased updates | 14:50 |
| oerheks | !phased | 14:50 |
| ubottu | Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info. | 14:50 |
| oerheks | the teams want some packages to be tested in a smaller audience | 14:50 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: sudo mask suspend.target | 14:52 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: and/or gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power sleep-inactive-ac-type 'nothing' | 14:52 |
| jenshae | oerheks: I only use LTS versions. | 15:04 |
| jenshae | "guile-2.0-libs : Depends: libgc1c2 (>= 1:7.2d) but it is not installable" | 15:08 |
| jenshae | "libgc1c2 is already the newest version (1:7.6.4-0.4ubuntu1)" | 15:08 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: guile-2.0-libs hadn't been a package in ubuntu since 20.04. I'm pretty sure you upgraded this system from 20.04 at some point. Or you've done some bad things | 15:10 |
| leftyfb | I would remove that package | 15:10 |
| oerheks | guile-2.0-libs is cruft from focal? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guile-2.0 | 15:12 |
| leftyfb | yes | 15:12 |
| leftyfb | guile-2.2-libs is what's in later releases | 15:13 |
| elvis | HolaMundo | 15:16 |
| jenshae | I think this system has upgraded constantly from either 14.04 or 16.04 | 15:17 |
| genii | Yes, cruft | 15:17 |
| oerheks | maybe apt autoremove does some good | 15:17 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: time for a fresh install | 15:17 |
| leftyfb | this is why I don't upgrade and always do fresh installs | 15:18 |
| elvis | hola que mas | 15:18 |
| oerheks | i tend to do both. | 15:18 |
| leftyfb | elvis: hello, what can we help you with? | 15:18 |
| elvis | i speak spanish | 15:19 |
| leftyfb | !es | elvis | 15:19 |
| ubottu | elvis: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 15:19 |
| elvis | thank you | 15:20 |
| jenshae | I would need to start making config scripts and proper documentation if I started doing fresh installs. >.> | 15:21 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: ansible | 15:21 |
| leftyfb | on a fresh OS install, my entire system is about 98% rebuilt the way I like it in about 5 minutes | 15:22 |
| jenshae | I think it took me a month (with diminishing time spent) when I reinstalled this one to get back to all the applications, settings and configurations I wanted. For example, not noting down .ini configs that need manual changes in games. | 15:33 |
| magus | Is insync safe to run on Ubuntu 24.04? | 15:35 |
| oerheks | jenshae> if you had no backup already, your data is unimportant as you do a huge change to your system | 16:00 |
| oerheks | lolz | 16:00 |
| oerheks | really, that story is what we hear daily | 16:00 |
| jenshae | oerheks: I have file backups, however, I tend to only think of Documents, Pictures, etc. I have them on 2x PCs and a removable drive. | 16:23 |
| jenshae | Is there a way of automatically making a config file? Comparing a standard install to what has changed on the system? | 16:24 |
| oerheks | the old way was preseed, that has changed to autoinstall | 16:25 |
| oerheks | https://canonical-subiquity.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/intro-to-autoinstall.html | 16:25 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: https://termbin.com/wiu3 | 16:27 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: that will give you a list of packages you installed beyond the defaults | 16:27 |
| leftyfb | jenshae: to answer your question, yes, you can use ansible configs (also known as playbooks) to rebuild your system exactly the way you like it | 16:27 |
| === TWPEagle81 is now known as TWPEagle8 | ||
| jenshae | Thanks | 16:41 |
| === tmroland_ is now known as tmroland | ||
| bartosz | how can i get rid of snap shit from ubuntu | 17:27 |
| rbox | well first of all, you can act like a mature person | 17:28 |
| oerheks | Don't remove snap, hop distro | 17:28 |
| bartosz | mature person would not add such a shit by default | 17:28 |
| oerheks | please no snap flamewar here | 17:28 |
| lotuspsychj3 | we got a lubuntu snapless minimal 24.04 | 17:28 |
| oerheks | and keep the language family friendly, thanks. | 17:29 |
| lotuspsychj3 | and snapd can be purged by own choice | 17:29 |
| leftyfb | bartosz: sudo apt remove snapd ... good luck. | 17:29 |
| lotuspsychj3 | that^ | 17:29 |
| bartosz | im on zubuntu, tried to install chromium but its added by snap shit | 17:29 |
| leftyfb | bartosz: stop | 17:29 |
| bartosz | *xubuntu | 17:29 |
| gebbione | nautilus does not seem to have a gallery view option, what do you do if you want to browse a folder of images and videos with a decent experience? | 17:31 |
| ravage | check out gthumb for that | 17:32 |
| lotuspsychj3 | maybe there are dconf values for that too | 17:32 |
| leftyfb | gebbione: you're right, nautilus is not a photo gallery app. You can see if there is one in the ubuntu repositories that you might like | 17:32 |
| bartosz | is there any ubuntu staff here and can explain why they added snap shit by default | 17:32 |
| leftyfb | bartosz: stop | 17:32 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !ops | bartosz language | 17:33 |
| ubottu | bartosz language: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 17:33 |
| bartosz | what word can i sue instead of sh*t ? | 17:33 |
| leftyfb | bartosz: file a bug if you have an issue. This is not the place to rant or even discuss distro choices. Feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic which is also beholden to !CoC | 17:33 |
| leftyfb | !coc | bartosz | 17:34 |
| ubottu | bartosz: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv | 17:34 |
| leftyfb | !bug | bartosz | 17:34 |
| ubottu | bartosz: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 17:34 |
| enigma9o7 | chromium was the first thing that was snap only, 20.04, you're complaining about something that was already decided 4+ years ago. There are plenty of articles online about it. | 17:34 |
| bartosz | its not a bug | 17:34 |
| gebbione | ravage, i guess i need to install it right? | 17:34 |
| bartosz | its a feature | 17:34 |
| enigma9o7 | Complaining about it in here, in user-to-user support, isn't gunna change anything. | 17:35 |
| leftyfb | bartosz: you have been given an answer to your support question. Please take all other discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic | 17:35 |
| ravage | gebbione: yes | 17:35 |
| oerheks | gebbione, preview works file, in local folders | 17:35 |
| enigma9o7 | It's your machine, you're free to use another distro, or remove snapd from ubuntu and workaround it however you want, but no point ranting to other users, just deal with it however you want. | 17:35 |
| gebbione | oerheks, you mean open them one by one? | 17:35 |
| bartosz | enigma9o7: do you also think its a [shit synonym] ? | 17:37 |
| oerheks | oh you might need gnome-sushi for that. | 17:37 |
| leftyfb | !op | bartosz | 17:37 |
| ubottu | bartosz: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 17:37 |
| oerheks | !info gnome-sushi | 17:37 |
| ubottu | gnome-sushi (46.0-1, noble): sushi is a quick previewer for nautilus. In component universe, is extra. Built by gnome-sushi. Size 69 kB / 412 kB | 17:37 |
| enigma9o7 | bartosz, it really doesn't matter what I think, the decision has been made, I deal with it, and this isn't a channel to discuss opinions anyway. | 17:38 |
| bartosz | yeah right | 17:38 |
| leftyfb | bartosz: at this point, it's becoming apparent your only reason for being in this support channel is to rant. Take it elsewhere. | 17:38 |
| oerheks | gebbione, previews from a share takes a huge amount of time and bandwidth | 17:39 |
| topcat001 | For chromium specifically, there is the extradeb ppa for Ubuntu bartosz. I wouldn't remove snap though. Also, there are .deb options for most other software. | 17:41 |
| topcat001 | On my work Ubuntu 22.04 machine I used Edge (requirement) from MS's .deb for work access, and snap FF for general stuff. | 17:43 |
| gebbione | oerheks, not a share, just a folder | 17:43 |
| gebbione | gthumb just broke the machine. stuck :( | 17:43 |
| topcat001 | s/used/use. On my older work setup I did have some issues with the FF snap and switched to the .deb. However, it seems that snap devs have resolved those so on my new setup FF snap is working fine! | 17:44 |
| topcat001 | I actually like the snadboxing provided OOTB by snap. Generally it requires a bit of manual tweaking to get it right (apparmor and all) on Arch (my regular non-work setup) and some other distros. | 17:46 |
| gebbione | loving my ubuntu install :( | 17:47 |
| topcat001 | why the face? :) | 17:47 |
| topcat001 | oh sorry jsut saw backlog | 17:47 |
| arraybolt3 | if one needs Chromium but not from a Snap, there's always the option of using Chrome proper. | 17:50 |
| topcat001 | indeed | 17:51 |
| gebbione | even CTRL ALT F2 does nothing ... any other escape shortcuts to restart X from cli ? | 17:51 |
| arraybolt3 | it's not exactly the most privacy-friendly or FOSS option, but meh. I have yet to find a browser I actually like and so far Chrome is the least bad of them. | 17:51 |
| gebbione | arraybolt3, vivaldi/brave? | 17:52 |
| topcat001 | Chrome on Linux is FAR better than the nonsense the installer does on Windows or macos - horrific | 17:52 |
| arraybolt3 | I tried Vivaldi once. It was misconfigured and somehow leaking browsing data to other websites I visited, which issue I only found out about when my sysadmin let me know he could see things my system was doing that I didn't even know it was doing just because I visited his website. | 17:52 |
| topcat001 | gebbione: Can you remote into the machine? | 17:52 |
| arraybolt3 | (he had Sentry enabled, apparently if your browser is leaking junk it can see it) | 17:52 |
| arraybolt3 | Brave, I have problems with because of the AI/crypto nonsense. Chrome is going down that route too though so there may not be much to lose. | 17:53 |
| gebbione | topcat001, it is laptop where i dont think i have enabled remote ssh | 17:53 |
| topcat001 | the machine hasn't frozen has it? | 17:54 |
| gebbione | topcat001, i cant do anything right now and CTRL ALT F2/3 does nothing | 17:54 |
| luna_3 | Hey I have discovered that I can use google-search, aka some AI, to ask how does this ocmmend eactly work in bas -- instead of asking here. Saving the more tricky (nor a naif) questions for here. Yay. | 17:54 |
| enigma9o7 | I think epiphany is still in ubuntu with debian package. | 17:55 |
| topcat001 | gebbione: As a quick check does the caps/num lock led work? | 17:55 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !info epiphany | 17:55 |
| ubottu | epiphany (0.7.0+0-7, noble): clone of Boulder Dash game. In component universe, is optional. Built by epiphany. Size 64 kB / 194 kB | 17:55 |
| oerheks | luna_3, including typos ? | 17:55 |
| arraybolt3 | !info gnome-web | 17:55 |
| ubottu | Package gnome-web does not exist in noble | 17:56 |
| gebbione | topcat001, no, no response when pressing it | 17:56 |
| arraybolt3 | !info epiphany-browser | 17:56 |
| enigma9o7 | !info epiphany-browser | 17:56 |
| ubottu | epiphany-browser (46.0-2build1, noble): Intuitive GNOME web browser. In component universe, is optional. Built by epiphany-browser. Size 755 kB / 2,160 kB | 17:56 |
| arraybolt3 | GNOME Web has hit-and-miss website compatibility last I checked, plus if it's in Ubuntu it probably isn't getting updated regularly. | 17:56 |
| topcat001 | gebbione: that is bed news - kernel is frozen - this is unlikely to be caused by gthumb | 17:56 |
| luna_3 | question: for this ... use the command `find . -type f -name "A*"` is the dot after the word file SUPPOSED to be there? And if so what does it do? | 17:56 |
| arraybolt3 | (in Ubuntu's Universe repo I mean) | 17:56 |
| arraybolt3 | I guess I could install it as a Flatpak but then ERR:UNSUPPORTED | 17:57 |
| arraybolt3 | (i.e. not supported by Ubuntu, which I'm fine with, but... do I really want to use it that badly...) | 17:57 |
| topcat001 | try: closing/opening the lid, failing which: short press power. If that fails to evoke any response you might need to press and hold power to hard shudown | 17:57 |
| gebbione | topcat001, most likely related to something after this uncompleted troubleshooting https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2500132 . System still unstable. Not sure what to look into | 17:58 |
| gebbione | i think someone with better understanding of these things should investigate Intel Arc compatibility | 17:59 |
| luna_3 | topcat001, That reminds me of my forst compute, an XT which actually had a lid I could slam. But instead I would push down all the little chips inside and then it would work well for 2 weeks. (this was before SIM-cards.) | 17:59 |
| topcat001 | gebbione: it indeed smells like a gpu driver crash | 18:01 |
| gebbione | topcat001, in journal or dmesg i dont see driver specific errors though. I m force restarting | 18:01 |
| topcat001 | are you using intel arc and 24.04? | 18:02 |
| gebbione | topcat001, yes. You can see the laptop model on the journalctl output | 18:02 |
| topcat001 | not much to suggest except: update bios, update ubuntu, and optionally file a bug once the cause is clearer | 18:03 |
| gebbione | topcat001, done all but reporting a bug cause it is indeed not clear. Just now though it is stuck again just by opening gthumb | 18:04 |
| gebbione | something gthumb related is crashing it | 18:04 |
| gebbione | unbelievable, i can see the mouse cursor but it is dead otherwise | 18:05 |
| topcat001 | is it running out of memory? | 18:05 |
| gebbione | i doubt 32GB ram | 18:05 |
| gebbione | but also i cannot get a shell so i cant dmesg | 18:05 |
| topcat001 | that is very odd - I wouldn't expect gthumb to be using any advanced graphics features | 18:05 |
| gebbione | is the previous session journal stored somewhere? | 18:06 |
| topcat001 | try running top and `journalctl -f` while you open gthumb | 18:06 |
| topcat001 | journalctl -b-1 should show the last boot | 18:06 |
| topcat001 | might need sudo | 18:07 |
| gebbione | nice screen is unreadable, so if i restart now can i journalctl -b-1 ? | 18:08 |
| gebbione | nice screen is unreadable, so if i restart now can i journalctl -b-2 ? | 18:08 |
| gebbione | to see the previous to last? | 18:08 |
| topcat001 | just `-b` - this boot, then `-b-1` is the previous boot, and so on | 18:10 |
| topcat001 | `journalctl --list-boots` to look up the index | 18:11 |
| gebbione | previpus was broken on start ... here is the journal https://termbin.com/kz98 , does this line outline a bug ? kernel: x86/split lock detection: #AC: crashing the kernel on kernel split_locks and warning on user-space split_lock | 18:12 |
| topcat001 | no | 18:12 |
| topcat001 | nothing obvious in the journal. However if the system froze then there won't be unfortunately | 18:15 |
| gebbione | i like the bugs can be ignored msg "/usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[3252]: MESA: warning: Support for this platform is experimental with Xe KMD, bug reports may be ignored." | 18:16 |
| rbox | i.e. they know theres problems with it, dont bother them | 18:17 |
| topcat001 | indeed. arc is experimental still | 18:17 |
| topcat001 | your hardware while nice is really new | 18:18 |
| topcat001 | I'd avoid the problematic scenarios for now and wait for fixes. Otherwise you could try a mainline 6.10 kernel | 18:20 |
| topcat001 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds | 18:21 |
| gebbione | topcat001, last time i tried mainline it installed a kernel that was unsigned or something and would not boot | 18:22 |
| topcat001 | you can disable secure boot temporarily | 18:22 |
| topcat001 | once installed, you can test your gthumb scenario | 18:23 |
| Guest39 | Hi | 18:31 |
| Guest39 | How can I get the Windows root CA certificates into linux for verifying file integrity? Without exporting from a windows system? Actually, can somebody send me the root CA's from windows, perhaps? | 18:32 |
| Guest39 | I use a lot of Wine software | 18:33 |
| oerheks | Guest39, if you find no answer here, there is #winehq here on #libera too | 18:37 |
| sven_ | Hello | 19:21 |
| === peacefulman2 is now known as peacefulman | ||
| Geo | Hi, upgraded from 20 to 22, tried to run chromium and it didn't launch. I removed the package (chromium-browser) and reinstalled it, but doesn't launch and on the terminal it says "cannot create user directory: /home/user/snap/chromium/2934: Permission denied". (perms are all fine for the user). Looking at syslog, I see apparmor appears to be blocking it, with errors like "kernel: [78162.218266] | 19:31 |
| Geo | audit: type=1400 audit(1724783599.012:237): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" profile="/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine" pid=191887 comm="snap-confine" capability=12 capname="net_admin"" in the log. Thoughts on how to troubleshoot this? I did a snap refresh and a reboot as well, same issue. | 19:31 |
| janne__ | guys, i have a problem with muon package manager, it doesnt let me type in password anymore, so i get an authentication error when i try to apply | 19:32 |
| === Sidewyz1 is now known as Sidewyz | ||
| janne__ | anyone got an idea? :D | 19:54 |
| janne__ | source /etc/bashrc | 19:54 |
| janne__ | ops, sorry | 19:55 |
| jenshae | I am having a great day. I updated the BIOS "successfully", machine rebooted, before it gets to the BIOS menu, it shuts down. One step forward, give steps back. :( | 20:04 |
| jenshae | five* | 20:05 |
| luna_3 | adding ms fonts, got to line 5 in the directions and it failed. This is line 5. > sudo apt-get install fontconfig - Install fontconfig library and fc-cache utility. < and the problem was it was unable to locate package Install or library or fc-cache AND it had notied it was seleting libghc-utility-ht-"various things" for those files.... | 20:11 |
| luna_3 | What now? My instruction page was this: https://docs.groupdocs.com/viewer/java/how-to-install-windows-fonts-on-ubuntu/#:~:text=you%20can%20to%20add%20it,to%20find%20the%20right%20file. | 20:11 |
| luna_3 | --ps I just wanted comic sans | 20:12 |
| xangua | luna_3: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer - Install Windows fonts. | 20:12 |
| xangua | pretty sure you can download comic sans from any "free font download" site | 20:13 |
| luna_3 | still unable to locate ... Install Windows fonts === those 3 | 20:14 |
| luna_3 | xangua | 20:14 |
| leftyfb | !multiverse | luna_3 , you need to enable the multiverse repo to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer | 20:16 |
| ubottu | luna_3 , you need to enable the multiverse repo to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. | 20:16 |
| luna_3 | (oh that is what it looks like. I was so wrong. But I will do it for the learning how to.) https://www.fontspace.com/category/comic-sans | 20:16 |
| luna_3 | oh this is not the REAL version. | 20:17 |
| luna_3 | Maybe another day. | 20:17 |
| leftyfb | :/ | 20:17 |
| leftyfb | luna_3: enable multiverse, install ttf-mscorefonts-installer. That's all you need | 20:18 |
| luna_3 | ah ha leftyb (and the rel one looks better.. I just found. def better) | 20:19 |
| leftyfb | I don't know what you mean by "real version" | 20:19 |
| luna_3 | leftyb enable multiverse, : not a shell builtin ditto for install and ttr.... | 20:20 |
| leftyfb | huh? | 20:20 |
| Liquid | hello I am running the latest version of ubuntu desktop and my audio of my microphone appears to be very very low quaility compared to when i was running via linux | 20:21 |
| Liquid | s/linux/windows/* | 20:21 |
| leftyfb | luna_3: "enable multiverse" wasn't a command. I told ubottu to give you a link with instructions on how to enable it. But here you go: sudo add-apt-repository multiverse ; sudo apt update && sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer | 20:21 |
| luna_3 | < naif | 20:22 |
| leftyfb | luna_3: sorry, please use English words | 20:22 |
| luna_3 | It means i am a naive person, aka noob. the noun for the adjective naive. TMI | 20:23 |
| Liquid | everyone starts somewhere | 20:24 |
| luna_3 | !enable multiverse, install ttf-mscorefonts-installer | 20:24 |
| leftyfb | luna_3: sudo add-apt-repository multiverse ; sudo apt update && sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer | 20:24 |
| luna_3 | np liquid. I have been at this for too many years. one day I will figure out what "course" to learn. | 20:25 |
| luna_3 | muses (so multiverse must be added. I am going to have a good old tme after I reformat and install 24.04 | 20:27 |
| myrti | Hi, I just upgraded from 22.04 to 24.04 and somehow this messed up my python installation. I'm using virtualenvwrapper and whenever I try to access any of the virtual environments I get the following message:/usr/bin/python3: Error while finding module specification for 'virtualenvwrapper.hook_loader' (ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'virtualenvwrapper'). Does anyone know how to fix this? | 20:29 |
| leftyfb | myrti: sudo apt install virtualenvwrapper ? | 20:30 |
| myrti | hmm, it didn't occur to me that it may have been removed during upgrade. Lol. Thanks will try this and report back | 20:30 |
| Liquid | hello my audio qauilty in the microphone on my system is very low quaility and only works via on specific audio setting using "pro audio" | 20:32 |
| Liquid | everything else the microphone doesnt work, and when it works with this specific setting it sounds like somone is talking and its being fed back into itself making it sound like screeching | 20:33 |
| myrti | @leftyfb Don't think that was it, but i believe it's pointing me towards the right direction.. namely that the upgrade removed the vresion of python I had installed and therefore all packages that used to be present now need to be reinstalled (or the python version I used to use needs to be re-installed. | 20:34 |
| myrti | Thanks for pointing me in the right drection :) | 20:34 |
| Beladona | which are the best two public dns and how to use them on my ubuntu/debian OS instead of the ISP's dns? | 20:53 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: maybe try asking in #networking or #security for general network config questions that is not ubuntu specific. It's not even linux or computer specific | 20:55 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: as for how to "use" them, I would suggest configuring them on your home router to give out via DHCP | 20:55 |
| Beladona | ok | 20:56 |
| Beladona | not sure why one of the pc is not able to resolve but others can with same router | 20:56 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: what OS is that non-working PC running? | 20:57 |
| Beladona | ubuntu | 21:01 |
| Beladona | I see in /etc/resolv.conf it sets nameserver to 127.0.0.53 everytime I connect with wifi. I wonder how to change it | 21:02 |
| Beladona | maybe this is causing the issue | 21:02 |
| leftyfb | please don't touch that file | 21:02 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: ok how to figure out why it is not working | 21:03 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: please run this in it's entirety including the parens and then paste the resulting URL here: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; resolvectl status ) | nc termbin.com 9999 | 21:03 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: right now I am on a different internet and it seems working by the mobile hotspot. | 21:05 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: If I switch to the problematic router, it won't work/ won't resolve | 21:06 |
| Beladona | on the same wifi router, other computers are working | 21:06 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: if you would like help troubleshooting it, put it onto the network having an issue while it is having the issue and grab the information requested. We will not be able to help you until you do that | 21:06 |
| Beladona | ou want me to paste | 21:06 |
| leftyfb | oh, no internet, hold on | 21:06 |
| Beladona | at which counnection do you want me to paste this | 21:06 |
| Beladona | terminbin wont work there | 21:07 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: please run this in it's entirety including the parens: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; resolvectl status ) > ~/debug.txt | 21:07 |
| Beladona | ok | 21:07 |
| leftyfb | then connect it to a working connection and run: cat ~/debug.txt | nc termbin.com 9999 | 21:07 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: https://termbin.com/rn22 | 21:10 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: lets go back to the bad state and run: ( ip -c a ; ip route ; ping -c3 1.1.1.1 ) >> debug.txt then reconnect to a good connection and run: cat ~/debug.txt | nc termbin.com 9999 | 21:14 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: btw, the working pc has dns 192.168.100.1 | 21:15 |
| Beladona | should I just change it to this | 21:15 |
| Beladona | and check if this resolves? | 21:15 |
| leftyfb | what OS is the working pc on? | 21:15 |
| Beladona | same | 21:15 |
| Beladona | ubuntu | 21:15 |
| leftyfb | do any of them have static ip's set? | 21:16 |
| Beladona | no | 21:16 |
| Beladona | not that of I am aware | 21:16 |
| leftyfb | then you're not connected to the same router | 21:16 |
| Beladona | the router is same having dhcp | 21:16 |
| leftyfb | dhcp gives every client the same network settings | 21:16 |
| Beladona | maybe my problematic pc set its own dns | 21:16 |
| leftyfb | unless you have manually configured matching with custom configs on your dhcp server | 21:16 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I would agree. use your gateway/router to give out your chosen DNS | 21:16 |
| leftyfb | it doesn't | 21:17 |
| stats4647 | Hi - I have a server which runs nginx, and uses letsencrypt certs. Everything is fine. However, I would like to add my mail domain to those certs - how would I do that? TIA | 21:17 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: your router should give out it's own ip for DNS to all clients which it then forwards off to whatever DNS servers you have configured on the router | 21:17 |
| Beladona | ok but how to see who is setting this dns? | 21:17 |
| leftyfb | stats4647: just configure your MTA to use those certs if the domains are the same | 21:18 |
| Beladona | ok how can I force my OS to use a specific dns? | 21:18 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: we already did that in your paste | 21:18 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: https://termbin.com/rn22 shows 3 nameservers (overkill) configured more than likely from DHCP and Network Manager | 21:18 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: unless you have manual nameservers set in your network manager config | 21:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | DNS has priority from nearest to furthest. so if you mess about with your hosts file or ip settings that would override your router. | 21:19 |
| stats4647 | leftyfb: thanks, I did that and everything was fine but in the last couple of days started getting errors - SSLCertVerificationError(1, "[SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed: Hostname mismatch, certificate is not valid for 'mail.domain.com'. (_ssl.c:1006)") | 21:19 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: either way, either configuration should work, if your ubuntu client can't use public resolvers for DNS, something is wrong | 21:19 |
| leftyfb | stats4647: I'm going to guess "mail.domain.com" isn't the same domain as what you are hosting with nginx. I did specifically say " just configure your MTA to use those certs if the domains are the same" | 21:20 |
| leftyfb | stats4647: otherwise, just use LE to create a new cert for your mail domain | 21:21 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: lets go back to the bad state and run: ( ip -c a ; ip route ; ping -c3 1.1.1.1 ) >> debug.txt then reconnect to a good connection and run: cat ~/debug.txt | nc termbin.com 9999 | 21:21 |
| stats4647 | leftyfb: you did indeed, sorry missed it. would that be a standalone cert or is there a specific way to create them for Postfix and make sure they get renewed, etc? | 21:22 |
| leftyfb | stats4647: "certonly" | 21:22 |
| leftyfb | you'll need to stand up a web server on the mail.domain.com address for it's authentication or use DNS per the certbot instructions | 21:23 |
| leftyfb | stats4647: if you're running a public linux mail server, I'm sure you are capable of reading and understanding the documentation for both letsencrypt and postfix | 21:23 |
| luna_3 | The little banner notifications on top vanish MUCH too fast 22.04 - this one said, Connection failed. Tried....... I mean under 4 secs .. is that something I can affect (sum: chrome died again. Does it almost daily. too many tabs (I was told) Piss-poor memory management, I say. | 21:26 |
| luna_3 | The question is can I make the banner notifications stoy longer, persist is the bogboy word for it. 22.04 | 21:26 |
| stats4647 | leftyfb: yes, thanks, ideally i would be able to just add that domain to my web certs but --nginx can't install it because obviously there is no virtual nginx server for mail.domain.com | 21:27 |
| stats4647 | leftyfb: tried ceronly and used the first option for auth (nginx plug) and everything worked fine, I now have two certs /etc/le/live/domain.com and /etc/le/live/mail.domain.com Does that sound ok? | 21:29 |
| leftyfb | yes | 21:29 |
| stats4647 | leftyfb: thanks, in fact even though --nginx -d mail.domain.com gave an error on the install piece, it still created the certs to include main.domain, which tells me i may not even require a separate cert | 21:31 |
| stats4647 | mail.domain.com* | 21:31 |
| leftyfb | don't do that | 21:31 |
| leftyfb | it will try to configure nginx to use the mail cert | 21:31 |
| stats4647 | when i did the web certs, i ran certbot --nginx -d domain.com -d www.domain.com -d mail.domain.com and everything worked except it couldn't install the cert for the mail block, because there is no mail vhost. But the result is that I have a single cert with all the domains. | 21:33 |
| leftyfb | ok | 21:34 |
| stats4647 | leftyfb: thanks | 21:38 |
| Geo | Hi, upgraded from 20 to 22, tried to run chromium and it didn't launch. I removed the package (chromium-browser) and reinstalled it, but doesn't launch and on the terminal it says "cannot create user directory: /home/user/snap/chromium/2934: Permission denied". (perms are all fine for the user). Looking at syslog, I see apparmor appears to be blocking it, with errors like "kernel: [78162.218266] | 21:49 |
| Geo | audit: type=1400 audit(1724783599.012:237): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" profile="/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine" pid=191887 comm="snap-confine" capability=12 capname="net_admin"" in the log. Thoughts on how to troubleshoot this? I did a snap refresh and a reboot as well, same issue. | 21:49 |
| leftyfb | Geo: is your /home mounted on a separate drive/partition from the rest of the OS? | 21:51 |
| Geo | no, all on / | 21:52 |
| Geo | ok, in my defense, i didn't configure this box. fstab doesn't show it, but df -h shows a /home/user mount | 21:56 |
| leftyfb | Geo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/2061981 | 21:56 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2061981 in snapd (Ubuntu) "chromium fails to start with non-standard home directory" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 21:56 | |
| leftyfb | there's a workaround you can try at the very top | 21:57 |
| Geo | I've seen this reported elsewhere, i think that has more to do with using /home/foo/user instead of /home/user, no? | 21:58 |
| Geo | sorry, I don't think i specified, the home dirs are at a standard location | 21:59 |
| leftyfb | Geo: did you try the workaround? | 21:59 |
| Geo | well, no, because this workaround appears to be for something different. Trying to understand more on the issue before running commands | 22:01 |
| leftyfb | Geo: you've been at this for 2 days, try the workaround | 22:02 |
| Geo | I don't see my error message in there | 22:02 |
| leftyfb | Geo: also: ls -l /home/user/snap/ /home/user/snap/chromium/ | 22:06 |
| leftyfb | and ls -ld /home/user/snap | 22:06 |
| Geo | everything is owned by user | 22:07 |
| leftyfb | and ls -ld /home/user | 22:09 |
| leftyfb | ? | 22:09 |
| Geo | same | 22:10 |
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| leftyfb | Geo: I would try asking in #snappy and make sure you mention that your /home/user is a mount to different storage than root | 22:18 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: I just set static ip / manual to .66 and internet got working. but many sites get stuck some times. Is there a way to reset all things on this OS to default in context to netwokring? https://termbin.com/mq0y | 22:26 |
| Geo | ok, thanks | 22:27 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: I'm not sure why you set a static ip. That wasn't necessary and could cause problems on your network | 22:27 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: there's no need to "reset all things" | 22:27 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: without that, I could not set dns | 22:28 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: and if some things "get stuck", that isn't a DNS issue. That's probably your ISP or poor drivers for your network card | 22:28 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: you don't need to set dns. You leave it all as dhcp/auto and let your router manage it | 22:28 |
| Beladona | ya I think too but something is incompatible with this os and isp/router | 22:29 |
| Beladona | not sure what | 22:29 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: there is certainly something wrong, but there is no indication of any "incompatibility" and so far, the changes you have made (which weren't suggested) have only added potential future problems and haven't solved anything | 22:32 |
| Beladona | with dchp auto, i noticed it does not even assigns ip. and this only happens to this pc | 22:33 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: let me know when/if you want to troubleshoot. If so, please revert your changes and let me know where things are | 22:33 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: and yet you show in the pastebin that you can ping 1.1.1.1 | 22:33 |
| leftyfb | or is that after you set it static? | 22:33 |
| Beladona | static ip at least gets me on internet | 22:34 |
| Beladona | dhcp does not assigns ip = no internet | 22:34 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: the interface you are referring to is wireless. It sounds like it might be a wireless problem | 22:34 |
| Beladona | with dchp auto, i noticed it does not even assigns ip. and this only happens to this pc | 22:34 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: the samewireless works with a) static ip b) other wifi connections/routers | 22:34 |
| Beladona | a) is on the same router where dhcp does not work. | 22:35 |
| Beladona | same router works fine with other PCs having same OS | 22:35 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: I would suggest going to settings -> Wi-Fi -> find your wifi in the list, click the little gear icon and select "Forget Connection" | 22:35 |
| Beladona | mobile phoens as well | 22:35 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: did that forget thing many times | 22:35 |
| leftyfb | please do it again to get us to a basic state | 22:36 |
| Beladona | some system config is chaning something in my gues | 22:36 |
| Beladona | ok | 22:36 |
| Beladona | in 20 mins | 22:36 |
| Beladona | 2* | 22:36 |
| alumno | ¿? | 22:37 |
| leftyfb | alumno: hello. What can we help you with? | 22:37 |
| alumno | what | 22:37 |
| alumno | emm | 22:38 |
| leftyfb | Beladona: ready? | 22:38 |
| leftyfb | or did you actually mean 20 minutes? | 22:38 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: I restarted router too | 22:40 |
| Beladona | leftyfb: 2 | 22:40 |
| Beladona | looks all is working now | 22:41 |
| Beladona | let me test | 22:41 |
| Beladona | brb 2 mins again | 22:41 |
| leftyfb | ah right, I forgot most people are running "consumer" routers, most of which are complete garbage and actually need to be rebooted occasionally | 22:41 |
| Beladona | ya.. | 22:51 |
| Beladona | works ok now.thanks !!1 | 22:52 |
| Jenovah | nid help with ngrok | 23:12 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Hello, after doing a direct update from 22.04 to 24.04 I can’t get into my login screen. I just see the tty1 login | 23:42 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Can somone help me? I need to get back into my system but I don’t know how | 23:47 |
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| oerheks | i see nothing like that in the releasenotes | 23:50 |
| oerheks | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-24-04-lts-noble-numbat-release-notes/39890#heading--known-issues | 23:50 |
| sarnold | SpeedrunnerG55: that happens to me from time to time on my 20.04 system | 23:51 |
| sarnold | SpeedrunnerG55: rebooting usually fixes it | 23:52 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | I tried doing that, I’ll try again | 23:52 |
| oerheks | apt install -f , spsudo dpkg --configure -a.share some output in a pastebin | 23:53 |
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| oerheks | i know there are gtk3 issues | 23:54 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | sarnold still nothing, only the tty1 login screen on my right monitor | 23:54 |
| sarnold | doing a blind sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop (or was it sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ?) fixed such a problem for a lot of folks | 23:54 |
| sarnold | SpeedrunnerG55: dang. | 23:55 |
| oerheks | on what hardware? | 23:56 |
| oerheks | lets narrow it down | 23:56 |
| oerheks | what services installed before upgrade | 23:57 |
| oerheks | snap refresh, reboot | 23:57 |
| oerheks | any step is helpfull | 23:57 |
| Vasquez | hi palacios | 23:59 |
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