[00:04] hi [00:51] Is this a bug? I just got a notif that my ubuntu version will stop receiving updates in 240 days (Ubuntu 22.04) but https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle says I should be supported atleast until 2027 [00:52] I am on 24.04.4 to be exact [01:27] Hi, upgraded from 20 to 22, tried to run chromium and it didn't launch. I removed the package (chromium-browser) and reinstalled it, but doesn't launch and on the terminal it says "cannot create user directory: /home/user/snap/chromium/2934: Permission denied". (perms are all fine for the user). Looking at syslog, I see apparmor appears to be blocking it, with errors like "kernel: [78162.218266] [01:27] audit: type=1400 audit(1724783599.012:237): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" profile="/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine" pid=191887 comm="snap-confine" capability=12 capname="net_admin"" in the log. Thoughts on how to troubleshoot this? [01:29] try a snap refresh, then a reboot, and then see how it goes [01:30] Your_Dog: I assume you mean 22.04.04, since 24.04.04 isn't out yet. It used to be that desktop releases were supported for 3 years rather than 5. The page you linked seems to imply that's no longer the case, but maybe it's just documented somewhere else. [01:30] Hello, i'm trying to update from 22.04 to 24.04 and I'm running into The package 'ubuntu-release-upgrade-core' is marked for removal but it is in the removal deny list. In /var/log/dist-ugprade/main.log i shows the same error [01:31] blahdeblah: aye, five years of support these days [01:31] I have two servers that i'm upgrading, both have had the same type of workflows. the first server upgraded with minor problems and can't seem to get past this on this second server [01:33] sysadmin29: that's pretty unusual.. check the output of dpkg -l 'ubuntu*' | grep ^ii and make sure that you've got ubuntu-minimal, or ubuntu-server, or ubuntu-desktop, installed; my wild guess is that you're missing one of the usual helpful metapackages [01:33] I'd like to install the latest LTS, 24.04.1, on my secondary drive that I mainly use to put backups on, which is magnetic 7200 RPM pertitioned with exFAT. I have 270 Gb free on it, but I'd like to have a large portion of that for future backups. I found https://askubuntu.com/a/312819 but it's over a decade old. Is it a good method for my desired use, and are the proposed partion sizes large enough (I assume not) ? [01:35] sarnold: very weird, yeah it seems i'm missing ubuntu-server on this [01:35] reinstalled and running again [01:35] DynV: "install to a drive" is a bit weirder these days, since you'll have one standard EFI filesystem on your computer and configure that to then boot the operating systems that probably live on the same drive, but might live on another drive .. [01:35] Installing Linux to a filesystem like NTFS or exFAT will probably not end well [01:35] sysadmin29: very weird. did reinstalling it suggest a missing package or something like that, that kept the metapackage from being installed? === keypushe- is now known as keypusher [01:36] DynV: I have no idea if our installer can shrink exfat or not. i'd be surprised. even if it says it can, make sure you have backups :) [01:37] sarnold: seemed to fail on a different package now, but similar to ubuntu-release-upgrade-core; installed both ubuntu-server and ubuntu-server-minimal. [01:38] Now the issue is: The package 'update-manager-core' is marked for removal but it is in the deny list [01:42] blahdeblah: I see so I guess I really do have 240 days, oh well, still enough time for me to get to december where I will do the actual upgrade [01:44] Your_Dog: see above message from sarnold - it should be 5 years, so a 240 day notification seems like a bug. I am on 22.04.04 and certainly didn't get the same message. [01:45] blahdeblah: if you get a notification about it,a bug report for with screenshot would be keen :) [01:52] sarnold: Any ideas with the error now being for the package "update-manager-core"? [01:54] sysadmin29: not really :( sometimes you can get lucky with an apt install update-manager-core .. and it'll give you some sort of message about a problem, but I don't think it'll be very helpful at the moment. i'm not sure. :( [01:55] sysadmin29: maybe disabling other repositories that are configured, if any, but I thought the upgrader should have done that for you already [02:04] genii: I've done it a while back on my main drive, I think it was on Windows 7 that I had like 1/3 free space, and gave whichever distro I did it with about half of that. [02:07] I guess if I'm having a too hard time doing a real install, I can use a VM and use the image from the secondary drive. [02:10] genii: i remember booting to ntfs works but it cant shutdown (lol) === sam__ is now known as Guest1943 [03:33] . 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[03:44] no se por que me aparece ese nombre yeison ramirez debe de aparecer [03:44] no se don pc [03:44] quien es ese man ve johnner [03:45] es que cuando iniciaste el programa no le pusiste tu nombre [03:45] yo te dije [03:45] como no a todo le puse nombre mio [03:45] jaja [03:45] yo soy yeison ramirez para que la nota se quede bien [03:45] yeison ramirez [03:45] jaaja [03:45] jajaja\ [03:45] a ps ahì si no se, tocarìa indagar o preguntarle al profe [03:46] que se le pregunta al profe [03:46] johnner [03:46] _ [03:46] Yo soy Johnner salas [03:46] porque no sale tu nombre [03:47] Guest3533 [03:47] oe [03:47] dime [03:47] voy a volver iniciar a ver si se [03:47] me esperas o qe [03:47] mano si tomamos los pantallazos de una vez para la nota [03:47] . [03:47] . [03:47] . [03:47] . [03:47] . [03:48] me voy a salir a ver [03:49] ya estas === linux is now known as Guest7390 [03:49] me coneter [03:50] oer [03:50] johnner, Guest7390: Please keep it to Ubuntu support in here, this is also an English speaking channel. If you'd like assist in Spanish, there's #ubuntu-es. === linux is now known as Guest5146 [03:53] oe [03:53] hola [03:53] no se que le pasa a esta bobada [03:54] oe [03:54] como estasa === linux is now known as Guest7173 [03:55] asda [03:55] asd [04:08] oe [04:08] jhon [04:12] oe [04:13] oe [04:15] oe [04:15] que te pasò [04:16] ... [04:16] todo bien === linux is now known as Guest6276 === OurRoyalGabe_ is now known as OurRoyalGabe [05:31] Hola [05:33] Hola [05:33] Listo funciona [05:33] Hello! [05:36] A mimir [05:39] Janne [06:22] Ok [08:17] Hi. When upgrading to 22.04 to 24.04.1, I encountered some issues that I'm not sure where to report. After restart, grub failed to load with the error 'symbol grub_calloc not found' (I reinstalled grub from a rescue disk). Also, I'm using gnome-flashback and this memory leak issue makes it unusable. How can I get more attention to it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-keyboard/+bug/2055388 [08:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2055388 in indicator-keyboard (Ubuntu) "suspected memory leak with indicator-keyboard (causing gnome-session-flashback to freeze after startup)" [Undecided, Confirmed] [08:21] hello === stu is now known as stu- === stu- is now known as _stu === _stu is now known as stu [08:49] people what is the best light linux that is not ubuntu? ubuntu and mint are too heavy now, they cannot run video smoothly, even of it is .mp4 compressed neither on VLC nor broswer youtube. the development has become too cluncky, what is a better alternative? [08:49] There's always Debian [08:50] Or you could try mpv instead of vlc too. [08:50] stu: debian is very bad at installation, too bad to use i tried [08:50] What about linux mint debian edition [08:50] let me try mpv [08:51] daniel413006: oh there is a mint/debian? interesting let me rea about it [08:51] not an ubuntu question really. have you tried ubuntu flavours with a lighter de? [08:51] ubuntu can get pretty light, try installing ubuntu server and installing a lightweight desktop manager like XFCE [08:53] I've actually found it's less the OS and more the browser that is heavy lately. firefox is full of bloat now. [08:53] librewolf so much better for resources [08:54] Falkon is also another good one. [08:56] sixwheeledbeast: i am feeling the same thing about firefox, unfortunatly the alternative is chrome which is worse [08:57] librewolf is firefox minus bloat [08:58] i mean literally... their build pipeline is mostly commenting out swaths of the latest firefox sources [09:01] hahaha [09:05] anyone made the jump from ubuntu server 22.04 to 24.04.1 since it was released yesterday? i got a headless server with just a dozen docker services i want to upgrade. heard a couple of complaints about 22.04->24.04 today but they seem to be desktop people [09:30] I'm getting [09:30] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held by process 2690 (unattended-upgr) [09:30] N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may break your system. [09:30] E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using it? [09:31] is the machine upgrading itself? [09:31] it sure looks like it in top [09:31] lsb_release is doing a lot of stuff [09:32] along with unattended upgrade [09:33] I just booted the machine for the first time in a while and did apt-get upgrade [09:34] now it's not letting me dist-upgrade [09:34] My bet is it's doing it's own updates right now? [09:36] yes it is installing updates [09:36] is this a server installation? [09:37] ravage: I think that's what I went with :/ [09:37] it's been al ong long time [09:37] Welcome to Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.15.0-67-generic x86_64) [09:38] mkay. why not 24.04? 🙂 [09:38] ravage: because it's been atleast 2+ years since I even plugged it in?? [09:38] the server comes with automatic security updates enabled [09:39] which is usually a good thing [09:40] It looks like 22.04 still have some years left [09:40] it does [09:40] I guess I"ll leave it plugged in and wait a few hours and let it do it's thing [09:41] https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [09:41] WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. [09:42] why am I getting this error? [09:42] is is not an error. it is a warning [09:42] it's suggesting that I shouldn't use apt in script? but why? [09:42] s/error/warning [09:42] it also tells you why [09:43] It says it doesn't have a stable CLI interface, but I haven't noticed it changes [09:43] maybe you should believe them unless you checked the code yourself [09:43] what if I want to use something package manager related in a bash script? [09:43] you can always use apt-get [09:43] apt is a wrapper for apt-get intended to improve user interactivity, if you're doing non-interactive stuff you should use apt-get instead of apt [09:44] ohkk so if I want to use package manager in script I should use apt-get right? [09:44] right [09:44] ravage stu Thanks :D [10:48] I'm trying to update /etc/resolv.conf insider docker container, but it says this file is busy. I couldn't update this file. any idea? [12:14] hi, since I updated from 22.04 to 24.04-1 I have different issues : some udisksd segfault errors and some apparmor denying a lot of things (i.e. the update-manager) [12:15] I don't know if the udisks error is related to apparmor but it's a bit scaring [12:15] Here are a sample of the dmesg errors : https://bpa.st/TWOQ [12:15] ello [12:27] Hi all [12:39] Hi! [13:29] Hello. I did an upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 via SSH and the power manager suspended the machine during the process. It is now in a poor state. Is there any repair tool I can use on it? [13:30] (sudo apt install -f did not resolve the issue) [13:31] Example of errors I am getting: Cannot load module /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-fcitx.so GLib version too old (micro mismatch) [13:32] this is a desktop system? [13:33] jenshae: the fcitx-frontend-gtk2 package, which provides that file, is not installed by default on ubuntu 24.04 [13:34] feel free to remove that package and see if it removes any packages you feel you still need [13:34] Yes, desktop, my old / spare gaming PC. [13:35] Welcome to Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS. 3 updates can be applied immediately. [13:35] sudo apt clean && sudo apt update && apt list --upgradable ---> 775 packages can be upgraded. [13:35] I just ran an update and upgrade. I think it is stuck between versions somehow. [13:36] maybe try full-upgrade instead of upgrade (but check it's not going to remove anything essential) [13:37] and you are probably right about "stuck between versions" [13:37] at least APT still works, it seems [13:38] Command being: do-release-full-upgrade? [13:39] 22.04.4 today has a popup: "Plasma Workspace \ Upgrade available \ Ubuntu on 24.04.1 LTS. This version will stop receiving updates and security fixes in 230 days. Is LTS only good for three years? [13:39] pickanick: maybe it's a plasma/kubuntu thing. Maybe try asking in #kubuntu [13:39] apt-get --fix-missing is usually what it prompts for if an update is interrupted? [13:40] This says full-upgrade and dist-upgrade are the same?? https://askubuntu.com/questions/770135/apt-full-upgrade-versus-apt-get-dist-upgrade [13:41] jenshae: ok, is it currently doing updates? [13:42] jenshae: full-upgrade is what it is called with apt (vs. dist-upgrade with apt-get), but as it seemed like you use apt... :) [13:42] sudo apt install --fix-missing --> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 775 not to upgrade. [13:42] jenshae: does sudo apt full-upgrade show any packages to upgrade? [13:43] It seems to be holding back half of 22.04 because it has a dependency problem, maybe? Glibc for example could be too old? [13:43] it will probably show packages to upgrade, install _and_ remove [13:43] 768 to upgrade, 239 to newly install, 76 to remove and 3 not to upgrade. [13:43] check the ones that will be removed to make sure nothing essential is in there [13:43] *Crosses fingers* [13:43] jenshae: please run sudo apt full upgrade and let it finish [13:45] I will reinstall it if it breaks completely, I mostly use it for live backups these days, boot it up, update, copy over files from my main PC then shut it down. [13:52] 22.04: i cannot change my global dns from 192.168.1.1 which is no longer my subnet address since tmoble fracked everything up. [13:53] iconoclasthero: server or desktop? [13:53] the gateway is 192.168.12.1 and I have other dns servers specified but it keeps defaulting to 192.168.1.1 and I cannot find where tha'ts coming from [13:53] desktop [13:53] iconoclasthero: why do you have other dns servers specified? [13:53] which other dns servers? [13:53] 1.0.0.1 and 8.8.8.8 [13:53] * leftyfb sigh [13:53] cloudflare is the fastest for me. [13:54] that's not how client resolvers work [13:54] oh, i should trust tmoble instead? [13:54] i think this is off topic [13:54] 192.168.1.1 doesn't exist and that is what i'm trying to fix. [13:54] iconoclasthero: it verymuch is, you have a broken configuration to start with [13:54] * iconoclasthero signs [13:54] sighs [13:54] iconoclasthero: is this machine set with dhcp or static ? [13:55] static [13:55] iconoclasthero: ok, please show your network manager configuration [13:55] 192.168.12.22 [13:55] screenshot it and post to imgur.com [13:55] working on it [13:55] don't have a browser open yet [13:56] and pastebin or screenshot any ohter custom network configurations you have done [13:56] https://imgur.com/a/HqnzDKp [13:58] resolvectl status: https://bpa.st/SRNQ [13:58] iconoclasthero: where are you seeing 192.168.1.1? Also, just know, that if you're configuring public resolvers like this, you will not be able to resolve local hostname using DNS [13:58] ah [13:58] ls -l /etc/resolv.conf [13:58] looks like you broke your local DNS resolver at some point [13:59] stub resolver [13:59] i use fixed ip addresses locally and refer to those instead of local host names. this is a secondary network for me so it's not really important i can e.g., 'ssh latitude' vs 'ssh 192.168.1.3' === nss_ is now known as nss [14:00] /etc/resolv.ctl: https://bpa.st/GW5A [14:00] s/.ctl/.conf [14:00] uh [14:00] resolvconf? [14:00] is this upgraded from 20.04? [14:00] doubt it. [14:01] then how/why did you install resolvconf? [14:01] it's not impossible, but i'm fairly sure this machine started with 22.04 [14:01] wait, back up. when did i do what? [14:01] iconoclasthero: apt-cache policy resolvconf [14:02] resolvconf: [14:02] Installed: 1.84ubuntu1 [14:02] yup, that shouldn't be installed on 22.04 [14:02] not by default anyway [14:02] i honestly cannot say how/why it is there. [14:03] i assume we could go back and look at the apt logs if they've not been rotated out [14:05] iconoclasthero: I would remove the resolvconf package, remove the resolv.conf link, link it to /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf instead and don't touch resolv.conf, let network manager/systemd manage it [14:05] https://bpa.st/XOAA [14:06] that's the oldest /var/log/apt/history.log[.9] that i have [14:06] not sure what information from that you think is useful [14:06] I would suggest following my instructions above [14:06] right after that i started installing things like quassel and ssh so i think that's the beginning of this system. it's 2023 so i think that means that it started as 22.04 [14:06] you have a mess there [14:07] sure, this is answering a previous question. [14:11] $ ll resolv.conf [14:11] lrwxrwxrwx 39 root 30 Aug 10:11 resolv.conf -> ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf [14:12] that looks like what you have above to me. that's how `apt remove resolveconf` left it. so i should be good after a reboot for `do-release-upgrade` ? [14:12] yup [14:12] uh [14:12] reboot, and lets check things out first [14:12] k [14:12] br [14:12] b [14:15] How do I best start a daemon for a particular user on system startup? [14:15] Square2: systemd [14:16] https://bpa.st/YKOA [14:16] @square2 e.g.: [no sudo] `systemctl --user restart pipewire-pulse` [14:17] if you use sudo you'll get an error [14:17] "Failed to connect to bus: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not defined (consider using --machine=@.host --user to connect to bus of other user)" [14:19] iconoclasthero: ipconfig? [14:19] it's a script [14:19] iconoclasthero: either way, looks like you're all set now. Make sure you can resolve [14:20] yeah, everything is resloving a shitload faster now so it's working properly [14:20] thank you very much for your assistance. [14:20] and if you're going to upgrade to 24.04, I would suggest you make sure you have your sources.list in order, all packages upgraded, and remove all 3rd party repositories and their related packages [14:21] third party sources get disabled by default in do-release-upgrade (as it turns out). [14:21] i made sure everything was upgraded already [14:21] the 3rd party packages should also be removed [14:21] you can reinstall them after [14:22] you want me to remove docker? wine? [14:22] if they're from 3rd party repositories, definitely [14:28] if i have to remove all the third party apps and then reinstall them what advantage is do-release-upgrade over just installing 24.04 over my exising / partition (which I could have done 4 months ago)? [14:33] leftyfb, does that advice apply to ubuntu 18.04 too? [14:33] It suspended again but I think it finished the full-upgrade. leftyfb is there a way to turn off system suspend when an SSH connection is active? [14:33] Square2: 18.04 is EOL and unsupported. Please upgrade [14:34] =D [14:34] jenshae: it’s really not suggested to do release upgrades over ssh. Pretty sure it warns you about that [14:34] Embrace snap! Resistance is futile Square2!!! Muhahahaha! [14:34] jenshae: let’s not === JornS4 is now known as JornS [14:36] Okay but sitting in the other room starting at it doing a TTY process or going back and forth constantly isn't very convenient, so back to the question, is there a way to insert an IF statement somewhere "IF SSH=active THEN suspend=FALSE? [14:36] staring* [14:37] can't you just turn suspend off for the time being? [14:37] just go to the power options and tell it to stay on 24/7? [14:37] (i don't know, my computers dont do that) [14:39] It seems to only do that for the DE, not sure being logged into a GUI session is ideal? Is there a way to disable suspend on the login screen / with the display manager? [14:42] Okay, for the most part, sudo apt full-upgrade seems to have fixed things, it is only holding back gcc-10-base x2 and guile-2.2-libs now. [14:43] Are those critical or can I now maybe upgrade to 24.04? [14:46] Does `do-release-upgrade` have a force flag? It is saying that I must do those three updates that it is holding back. [14:47] install those manually [14:47] sudo apt install <1> <2> <3> [14:49] Could that not break or make the system unstable? There is usually a dependency problem if it is being held back, right? [14:50] no, phased updates [14:50] !phased [14:50] Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info. [14:50] the teams want some packages to be tested in a smaller audience [14:52] jenshae: sudo mask suspend.target [14:52] jenshae: and/or gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power sleep-inactive-ac-type 'nothing' [15:04] oerheks: I only use LTS versions. [15:08] "guile-2.0-libs : Depends: libgc1c2 (>= 1:7.2d) but it is not installable" [15:08] "libgc1c2 is already the newest version (1:7.6.4-0.4ubuntu1)" [15:10] jenshae: guile-2.0-libs hadn't been a package in ubuntu since 20.04. I'm pretty sure you upgraded this system from 20.04 at some point. Or you've done some bad things [15:10] I would remove that package [15:12] guile-2.0-libs is cruft from focal? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guile-2.0 [15:12] yes [15:13] guile-2.2-libs is what's in later releases [15:16] HolaMundo [15:17] I think this system has upgraded constantly from either 14.04 or 16.04 [15:17] Yes, cruft [15:17] maybe apt autoremove does some good [15:17] jenshae: time for a fresh install [15:18] this is why I don't upgrade and always do fresh installs [15:18] hola que mas [15:18] i tend to do both. [15:18] elvis: hello, what can we help you with? [15:19] i speak spanish [15:19] !es | elvis [15:19] elvis: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [15:20] thank you [15:21] I would need to start making config scripts and proper documentation if I started doing fresh installs. >.> [15:21] jenshae: ansible [15:22] on a fresh OS install, my entire system is about 98% rebuilt the way I like it in about 5 minutes [15:33] I think it took me a month (with diminishing time spent) when I reinstalled this one to get back to all the applications, settings and configurations I wanted. For example, not noting down .ini configs that need manual changes in games. [15:35] Is insync safe to run on Ubuntu 24.04? [16:00] jenshae> if you had no backup already, your data is unimportant as you do a huge change to your system [16:00] lolz [16:00] really, that story is what we hear daily [16:23] oerheks: I have file backups, however, I tend to only think of Documents, Pictures, etc. I have them on 2x PCs and a removable drive. [16:24] Is there a way of automatically making a config file? Comparing a standard install to what has changed on the system? [16:25] the old way was preseed, that has changed to autoinstall [16:25] https://canonical-subiquity.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/intro-to-autoinstall.html [16:27] jenshae: https://termbin.com/wiu3 [16:27] jenshae: that will give you a list of packages you installed beyond the defaults [16:27] jenshae: to answer your question, yes, you can use ansible configs (also known as playbooks) to rebuild your system exactly the way you like it === TWPEagle81 is now known as TWPEagle8 [16:41] Thanks === tmroland_ is now known as tmroland [17:27] how can i get rid of snap shit from ubuntu [17:28] well first of all, you can act like a mature person [17:28] Don't remove snap, hop distro [17:28] mature person would not add such a shit by default [17:28] please no snap flamewar here [17:28] we got a lubuntu snapless minimal 24.04 [17:29] and keep the language family friendly, thanks. [17:29] and snapd can be purged by own choice [17:29] bartosz: sudo apt remove snapd ... good luck. [17:29] that^ [17:29] im on zubuntu, tried to install chromium but its added by snap shit [17:29] bartosz: stop [17:29] *xubuntu [17:31] nautilus does not seem to have a gallery view option, what do you do if you want to browse a folder of images and videos with a decent experience? [17:32] check out gthumb for that [17:32] maybe there are dconf values for that too [17:32] gebbione: you're right, nautilus is not a photo gallery app. You can see if there is one in the ubuntu repositories that you might like [17:32] is there any ubuntu staff here and can explain why they added snap shit by default [17:32] bartosz: stop [17:33] !ops | bartosz language [17:33] bartosz language: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant [17:33] what word can i sue instead of sh*t ? [17:33] bartosz: file a bug if you have an issue. This is not the place to rant or even discuss distro choices. Feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic which is also beholden to !CoC [17:34] !coc | bartosz [17:34] bartosz: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv [17:34] !bug | bartosz [17:34] bartosz: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [17:34] chromium was the first thing that was snap only, 20.04, you're complaining about something that was already decided 4+ years ago. There are plenty of articles online about it. [17:34] its not a bug [17:34] ravage, i guess i need to install it right? [17:34] its a feature [17:35] Complaining about it in here, in user-to-user support, isn't gunna change anything. [17:35] bartosz: you have been given an answer to your support question. Please take all other discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic [17:35] gebbione: yes [17:35] gebbione, preview works file, in local folders [17:35] It's your machine, you're free to use another distro, or remove snapd from ubuntu and workaround it however you want, but no point ranting to other users, just deal with it however you want. [17:35] oerheks, you mean open them one by one? [17:37] enigma9o7: do you also think its a [shit synonym] ? [17:37] oh you might need gnome-sushi for that. [17:37] !op | bartosz [17:37] bartosz: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant [17:37] !info gnome-sushi [17:37] gnome-sushi (46.0-1, noble): sushi is a quick previewer for nautilus. In component universe, is extra. Built by gnome-sushi. Size 69 kB / 412 kB [17:38] bartosz, it really doesn't matter what I think, the decision has been made, I deal with it, and this isn't a channel to discuss opinions anyway. [17:38] yeah right [17:38] bartosz: at this point, it's becoming apparent your only reason for being in this support channel is to rant. Take it elsewhere. [17:39] gebbione, previews from a share takes a huge amount of time and bandwidth [17:41] For chromium specifically, there is the extradeb ppa for Ubuntu bartosz. I wouldn't remove snap though. Also, there are .deb options for most other software. [17:43] On my work Ubuntu 22.04 machine I used Edge (requirement) from MS's .deb for work access, and snap FF for general stuff. [17:43] oerheks, not a share, just a folder [17:43] gthumb just broke the machine. stuck :( [17:44] s/used/use. On my older work setup I did have some issues with the FF snap and switched to the .deb. However, it seems that snap devs have resolved those so on my new setup FF snap is working fine! [17:46] I actually like the snadboxing provided OOTB by snap. Generally it requires a bit of manual tweaking to get it right (apparmor and all) on Arch (my regular non-work setup) and some other distros. [17:47] loving my ubuntu install :( [17:47] why the face? :) [17:47] oh sorry jsut saw backlog [17:50] if one needs Chromium but not from a Snap, there's always the option of using Chrome proper. [17:51] indeed [17:51] even CTRL ALT F2 does nothing ... any other escape shortcuts to restart X from cli ? [17:51] it's not exactly the most privacy-friendly or FOSS option, but meh. I have yet to find a browser I actually like and so far Chrome is the least bad of them. [17:52] arraybolt3, vivaldi/brave? [17:52]