| andres | HI Bryan | 00:00 |
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| oerheks | hi 2 friends | 00:00 |
| bprompt | SpeedrunnerG55: what's the issue btw? | 00:00 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | sarnold unmet dependencies. Try ‘apt —fix-broken install’ with no packages or specify a solution | 00:02 |
| sarnold | SpeedrunnerG55: oh fun! how'd it go? | 00:02 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Failed to fetch http:/us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cryptsetup_2.7.0-1ububtu4_amd64.deb could not resolve ‘us.archive.ubuntu.com’ | 00:06 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | unabale to fetch some archives, Mabe run apt-get update or try with —fix-missing? | 00:07 |
| ravage | that looks like a wrong DNS server | 00:07 |
| ravage | can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? | 00:07 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Ping: connect: network is unreachable | 00:08 |
| ravage | then your PC is offline | 00:08 |
| WeeBey | hi frens. My hard crash after wake are still happening. The new kernel didn't help. But I have more info this time. The NVME cannot come out of sleep. Any thoughts? https://postimg.cc/vxQ0nxBj | 00:08 |
| WeeBey | This really sucks for a laptop. | 00:08 |
| ravage | WeeBey: first step is to make sure your BIOS and also NVME firmware are up do date | 00:09 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Idk why my pc is offline. I didn’t do anything to its connection. | 00:29 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | My phone is still online using my router. And my pc is connected to it with Ethernet | 00:30 |
| Bashing-om | SpeedrunnerG55: Reboot the router ; now can you ping the router ? | 00:31 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | I can’t ping it. | 00:31 |
| Bashing-om | SpeedrunnerG55: Yukkie - Isolate to the card - any joy ' ping -c3 localhost ' and ' ping -c1 _gateway ' ? | 00:35 |
| jenshae | Does installing or upgrading to Ubuntu 24.04 alter or tamper with any UEFI or secure boot files on the BIOS level by any chance? Still don't know why my BIOS update failed unless Ubuntu did something or the firmware file was corrupt. | 00:38 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Bashing-om I can ping 127.0.0.1 | 01:01 |
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| Bashing-om | SpeedrunnerG55: Odd address that ^ -- is that your "nameserver" ? | 01:30 |
| jenshae | 127.0.0.1 is your local NIC it is used for diagnostic purposes. | 01:31 |
| jenshae | OS is talking to NIC successfully. | 01:31 |
| jenshae | Thanks for the help earlier guys. Good night. o7 | 01:32 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | What should I try? | 01:40 |
| Bashing-om | SpeedrunnerG55: Well . if you can not talk to the router,and in house is good hardware wise - then next is configs for networking both in the system and in the router --- or a bad cable to the router. // ' cat /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml ; symlink established ' ls -al /etc/resolv.conf ' . | 01:48 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | No file or directory | 02:00 |
| Bashing-om | SpeedrunnerG55: /etc/resolv.conf missing ? | 02:02 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Bashing-om no, there is a symlink to ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf | 02:14 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | I misspelt it the first time. | 02:15 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Typed ect instead of ect | 02:16 |
| Bashing-om | SpeedrunnerG55: verry well (not) verify however that /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf exist and then that it looks sane ' cat /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf '. If so we re-establish that symboloc link. | 02:20 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | nameserver 127.0.0.53 | 02:23 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | options edns0 trust-ad | 02:24 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | search . | 02:24 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | the rest is comented | 02:24 |
| Bashing-om | SpeedrunnerG55: Assuming here that networkmanager is your renderer (desktop box) //^^ Yeah as expected - good deal - run in terminal ' sudo ln -s /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf ' then restart networking ; sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager.service '. | 02:29 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Failed to create symbolic link file exists. | 02:31 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Failed to restart NetworkManager.service unit NetworkManager.service is masked | 02:34 |
| Bashing-om | SpeedrunnerG55: Yukkie - you told me that the file "/etc/resolv.conf" did not exist - // OK . so if that is good need to look at the file ' sudo cat /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml ' // see where we go from here. | 02:37 |
| Bashing-om | SpeedrunnerG55: Masked ? Are you running networkd as your renderer ^ ? | 02:38 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Hmm | 02:58 |
| Bashing-om | SpeedrunnerG55: pastebin the results of ^^ ' sudo cat /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml ' see what we are working with. | 03:00 |
| May | Hola | 03:35 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !es | May | 03:39 |
| ubottu | May: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 03:39 |
| May | Thanks! | 03:40 |
| realivanjx | is the docker.io package for jammy still maintained? the last updates was months ago | 04:56 |
| enigma9o7 | looks like last release of jammy (22.04.4 was feb 22 2024) | 04:58 |
| enigma9o7 | so if there was some update to docker.io since then musta been critical or somethiing | 04:58 |
| realivanjx | will i be stuck with v24 on jammy or will there be upgrade to latest? (currently v27) | 04:59 |
| stu | that's what stability looks like, that's what you get on a two year old long-term support release | 05:00 |
| enigma9o7 | v24 | 05:00 |
| enigma9o7 | LTS will not change versions on you | 05:00 |
| realivanjx | jammy was originally v20 but they bumped it to v24 on updates repo | 05:00 |
| realivanjx | in wondering what ubuntu schedule is for docker.io | 05:01 |
| enigma9o7 | hmmm wonder why | 05:01 |
| enigma9o7 | doesnt show that in the changelog | 05:02 |
| enigma9o7 | apt changelog docker.io | 05:02 |
| stu | it's slow for 22.04LTS, if you want to risk all the latest and greatest docker updates you can add their repos to your apt sources and use the upstrem packages | 05:03 |
| enigma9o7 | ah okay yes it does | 05:03 |
| enigma9o7 | Backport version from Mantic to Jammy (LP: #2030500) | 05:03 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2030500 in docker.io-app (Ubuntu Mantic) "Update to version 24.x" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2030500 | 05:03 | |
| realivanjx | @stu: i was on docker official repo but after i learned that they only push updates to ubuntu version for 2-3 years i switched back to docker.io | 05:05 |
| enigma9o7 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DockerUpdates may be useful to you realivanjx | 05:05 |
| realivanjx | as i dont plan to update my jammy install | 05:05 |
| realivanjx | *upgrade | 05:05 |
| realivanjx | enigma9o7: thanks for the link | 05:06 |
| enigma9o7 | it does indeed seem this pacakge is handled differently than most other packages and they want to provide updated versions, not keep the same version thru all of lts cycle. | 05:06 |
| enigma9o7 | I guess that means see if there is already a bug report requesting a newer version, and if not, file one. | 05:07 |
| realivanjx | i think because of CVEs | 05:07 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | A | 05:11 |
| stu | Their latest docker-ce package for jammy/22.04 reads 'Version: 5:27.2.0-1~ubuntu.22.04~jammy', looks like they are packaging 27.2 | 05:11 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | “/etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yml” does not exist, nether does /etc/netplan | 05:13 |
| atrus | Fun little adventure today: After upgrading from Ubuntu 22.04->24.04, the kernel on my linode VM decided that /dev/sda and /dev/sdb swapped places -- and that's why you use filesystem labels or UUIDs in your bootloaders and fstabs, friends. | 05:13 |
| atrus | (it's all fixed -- linode's "lish" serial-tty setup is pretty handy. ubuntu dropped to an emergency busybox console where i could mount the root fs, edit the neccesary grub config and fstab, reboot, and away it went happily again) | 05:14 |
| stu | I did my headless home server from 22.04 to 24.04.1 today, ran it over SSH, got the HDMI cable and keyboard out just in case but didn't need them | 05:15 |
| stu | just had to remove docker-compose and install docker-compose-v2 in its place and I'm back in action | 05:17 |
| stu | might do a reinstall this weekend anyway, just to shake two years of cruft and try tinkering with zfs instead of btrfs | 05:19 |
| realivanjx | for desktop users, are there any usable rdp server program that can run on wayland mode? as long as this bug not fixed it is pretty much useless for me LP: #2068806 | 05:24 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2068806 in gnome-remote-desktop (Ubuntu) "desktop sharing not working if existing session is locked" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2068806 | 05:24 | |
| atrus | stu: i still might have cruft from hacking away an in-place i386->x86_64 upgrade 4 years ago ;) | 05:31 |
| stu | i watched my update bring in like 100 new python3-(somelib) packages and I'm like what's up with that, I've been trying to use pip as much as possible | 05:48 |
| enigma9o7 | Pretty sure ubuntu discourages the use of pip, as it may break system packages. | 05:49 |
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| enigma9o7 | although I'm surrpised the update would automatically install packages you didn't have installed before (other than dependencie sof things you had installed before) | 05:51 |
| stu | I thought one of the points of using pip was that it wouldn't break system packages, I don't even run it as root it's almost all going into /home/me/.local/ | 05:51 |
| enigma9o7 | Using it as yourself is relatively safe and won't break system packages, you're correct. | 05:52 |
| enigma9o7 | even tho you still gotta tell it to break system packages :) | 05:52 |
| enigma9o7 | I thought the point of pip was mainly for windows users who dont have a package manager and python3 packages maintained by their distro. | 05:53 |
| Apachez | I assume that a regular "apt dist-upgrade" will take my box from 24.04 to 24.04.1 ? or is do-release-upgrade needed? | 05:53 |
| stu | dist-upgrade should be fine for point releases | 05:54 |
| enigma9o7 | probably a regaulr apt upgrade would do it. | 05:54 |
| enigma9o7 | but if something is held back, then a dist-upgrade may be necessary, just pay attention when using that to what it's removing | 05:54 |
| enigma9o7 | but certainly no need for do-release-upgrade | 05:55 |
| Apachez | any of you who knows if there exist a tool one can boot that can test the cpu (amd) and/or the server itself (supermicro) similar to how memtest86+ can test ram and give suggestions on which GRUB_BADRAM or memmap boot parameter one can use to continue to use the hardware? Do perhaps ubuntu have some bootparameter that can set the kernel into testing the cpu and let me know if the caches or a particular core is bad? | 06:05 |
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| comph | hi, i'm trying to use my radeon gpu on a laptop that also has an integrated intel gpu ... for some reason switcheroo doesn't work although it is enabled | 09:04 |
| comph | i have tried to select the radeon gpu by prefixing the app i want to use (blender) with "DRI_PRIME=1 blender" | 09:05 |
| comph | but i think it's still rendering on the integrated gpu | 09:05 |
| konsolebox | comph: You used xrandr? | 09:13 |
| comph | konsolebox: as in xrandr --listproviders ? | 09:23 |
| konsolebox | Yes both should show | 09:23 |
| comph | yes, they are there | 09:23 |
| konsolebox | Then you can run `xrandr --setprovideroffloadsink 1 0` | 09:23 |
| konsolebox | Verify that i works with `DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo |grep renderer` | 09:24 |
| konsolebox | *OpenGL\ renderer | 09:25 |
| comph | ok, so it already shows the correct GPU when i run that | 09:27 |
| comph | without running the xrandr command | 09:27 |
| comph | so i can assume it runs on the correct GPU in blender? | 09:27 |
| konsolebox | I don't know how Blender works though, so all I can say is maybe. | 09:28 |
| comph | ok | 09:28 |
| konsolebox | I'm not sure how vulkan works with DRI_PRIME, and if Blender using vulkan which it might do (https://developer.blender.org/docs/features/gpu/vulkan/) might affect which renderer is used. | 09:30 |
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| comph | it says "none" in the cycles render device in blender, so maybe it's not supported | 09:34 |
| comph | alas it's rendering on the cpu | 09:34 |
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| konsolebox | comph: Have you checked this page? https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/cycles/gpu_rendering.html | 09:41 |
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| comph | Device: AMD Radeon R5 M445 Series (radeonsi, iceland, LLVM 17.0.6, DRM 3.57, 6.8.0-41-generic) (0x6900) | 10:04 |
| comph | doesn't seem to be supported in latest blender | 10:04 |
| comph | tried an older version where it could have worked, but it didn't :/ | 10:04 |
| comph | also tried a different renderer, but that was very slow so probably cpu too | 10:05 |
| gordonjcp | comph: it's not really down to whether or not the graphics card is supported in Blender | 10:16 |
| gordonjcp | comph: blender doesn't support particular cards | 10:16 |
| gordonjcp | it's down to whether or not you've got support in your OS for it | 10:16 |
| realivanjx | is it possible to disable "Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it" message without disabling motd? or will it disappear after a while? | 10:17 |
| comph | This device has no display connectivity, as it is not designed to have monitors connected to it. Rather it is intended for use in laptop/notebooks and will use the output of the host mobile device. | 10:18 |
| comph | gordonjcp: so a different driver? | 10:19 |
| comph | i think it may be some mobile gpu bs | 10:19 |
| comph | idk | 10:19 |
| gordonjcp | comph: I don't have a laptop with integrated and "proper" GPU | 10:19 |
| gordonjcp | comph: in general though if you get the GPU working it'll work in Blender | 10:21 |
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| gordonjcp | comph: have you got the amdgpu driver installed? | 10:22 |
| comph | yes | 10:22 |
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| noluv | yo | 10:22 |
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| PickledOwen | Hi | 11:27 |
| ravage | Hi Owen. Are you in a bit of a pickle and have an Ubuntu support question? | 11:28 |
| PickledOwen | Yeah, I just set up my new laptop and everything is working great, just unable to hear anything with "Intel Corporation Meteor Lake-P HD Audio Controller". A quick search shows that it may be a known bug, but just was curious if anyone had any solution to this problem yet :) | 11:29 |
| ravage | A known bug should have a launchpad bug ID | 11:30 |
| oerheks | on what ubuntu version? | 11:30 |
| PickledOwen | I am on 24.04.1 LTS | 11:31 |
| ravage | And does the audio device show up in the settings? | 11:32 |
| PickledOwen | Yes, it shows up, just unable to hear anything, | 11:32 |
| ravage | I usually try pavucontrol | 11:33 |
| ravage | Sometimes something is just muted or not set to the right output | 11:33 |
| PickledOwen | pavucontrol shows everything connected to the correct output and not muted. | 11:39 |
| comph | AMD Radeon R5 M445 Series (radeonsi, iceland, LLVM 17.0.6, DRM 3.57, 6.8.0-41-generic) (0x6900) | 11:48 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:32 |
| aras | selam | 13:44 |
| aras | kimse varmı ? | 13:44 |
| aras | kimse varmı merhaba | 13:46 |
| aras | burası ubuntu toplugu değilimi | 13:48 |
| aras | kimse yokmu | 13:48 |
| leftyfb | !tr | aras | 13:49 |
| ubottu | aras: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde. | 13:49 |
| aras | kimse yokmu | 13:49 |
| aras | leftyfb selam | 13:51 |
| leftyfb | aras: Üzgünüm, ancak bu kanal çoğunlukla İngilizce konuşuyor. Sadece İngilizce destek sağlayabiliyoruz. Eğer sadece Türkçe konuşuyorsanız, lütfen #ubuntu-tr adresine gidin veya forumları deneyin. (Bunun için Google Translate kullandım) | 13:51 |
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| lubuntu | hi | 14:44 |
| lotuspsychj3 | welcome lubuntu | 14:44 |
| lubuntu | THX | 14:44 |
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| SpeedrunnerG55 | Ifconfig does not show my Ethernet adapter only lo | 15:50 |
| ravage | lspci | grep Ethernet | 15:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | "ip a" is a more modern tool. but yer check lspci | 15:54 |
| ravage | share the output of: lspci -v | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:55 |
| ravage | well | 15:55 |
| ravage | we would need you get online somehow | 15:56 |
| ravage | can you connect your phone in USB tethering mode? | 15:56 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Controller I225-V (rev 03) | 15:57 |
| slurm | people, how can i tell how long a computer has been on from the terminal? | 15:57 |
| ravage | uptime | 15:57 |
| slurm | nice | 15:57 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | I can’t do usb tethering | 15:58 |
| slurm | it seems GCP cannot monitor its own compute engine uptime, i might have to write a script that monitors that. or is there a program i can install that monitors when it is up and when it is down? | 15:58 |
| ravage | SpeedrunnerG55: is this an ASUS board? | 15:58 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | MSI | 16:00 |
| ravage | is it the latest BIOS version? | 16:00 |
| ravage | also they may be a new firmware for the network adapter | 16:03 |
| ravage | i find a lot of problems with this adapter under windows and linux | 16:03 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | I think so, I’m using E7D091MS.160 | 16:07 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | It’s a Z590-A PRO (MS-7D09) | 16:07 |
| ravage | which board is this exactly? | 16:07 |
| ravage | ok | 16:07 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | Bios build date 05/19/2022 | 16:08 |
| ravage | can you get the system online with your phone? | 16:08 |
| lotuspsychj3 | maybe share your whole sudo dmesg too SpeedrunnerG55 , volunteers might find more clues there? | 16:09 |
| ravage | yes but typing in the whole dmesg may be hard to do | 16:09 |
| ravage | also https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z590-A-PRO/support#bios | 16:12 |
| ravage | latest is 7D09v1A from this month | 16:12 |
| ravage | so make sure you have that first | 16:13 |
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| blinky | Hi | 19:15 |
| blinky | How do I set sumatrapdf as the default pdf reader on ubuntu? | 19:15 |
| blinky | This is the link to the app - https://snapcraft.io/sumatrapdf | 19:16 |
| leftyfb | blinky: https://www.makeuseof.com/change-default-apps-on-ubuntu/ | 19:19 |
| blinky | Thank you leftyfb | 19:19 |
| leftyfb | blinky: I typed "ubuntu set default pdf viewer" into google and that was the 3rd main result | 19:20 |
| blinky | leftyfb, got it | 19:20 |
| blinky | leftyfb, that article isn't working for me | 19:24 |
| leftyfb | What did you try? | 19:25 |
| blinky | leftyfb, All the options | 19:26 |
| blinky | mentioned in that article | 19:26 |
| bertro | did you try right-clicking on a PDF file, selecting properties in the context menu and then going to the "open with" page? is your new PDF reader listed there? | 19:27 |
| blinky | bertro, yes I tried that. My new PDF reader "sumatrapdf" is not listed there. | 19:28 |
| bertro | ah, I just noticed that it's a windows-only program, so your snap installs it via wine | 19:29 |
| bertro | probably why it's not listed in the list of possible apps. | 19:29 |
| blinky | bertro, I think so too. | 19:29 |
| leftyfb | gah, that app doesn't support fractional scaling | 19:30 |
| leftyfb | and yeah, it's a wine app | 19:31 |
| leftyfb | personally, I would use something else | 19:31 |
| leftyfb | you can probably make it work | 19:31 |
| blinky | leftyfb, I've recently moved from windows to linux and I use sumatrapdf for everthing pdf on windows. | 19:32 |
| leftyfb | blinky: are you honestly dealing with pdf's that often? | 19:33 |
| blinky | leftyfb, yes! | 19:33 |
| leftyfb | ok, hold on, I might have a way | 19:33 |
| JanC | every snap app should have a .desktop file, so why doesn't it show up in Properties → Open With? | 19:33 |
| blinky | thank you leftyfb | 19:34 |
| JanC | also, why don't you use the default PDF reader or some other native linux alternative? are there some features missing that you need? | 19:36 |
| blinky | JanC, the feature that I use is highlighting. I don't know linux alternatives that do that. | 19:37 |
| blinky | I was happy to find sumatrapdf on snapstore | 19:37 |
| JanC | the default PDF viewer in Ubuntu supports highlighting? | 19:38 |
| leftyfb | blinky: cp /snap/sumatrapdf/6/meta/gui/sumatrapdf.desktop ~/.local/share/applications && sed -i 's/^Exec=sumatrapdf/Exec=sumatrapdf %U/g' ~/.local/share/applications/sumatrapdf.desktop | 19:38 |
| leftyfb | then it will show up under "View All Applications" | 19:39 |
| leftyfb | and if you right-click a pdf and go to properies and open with, you can select it and set it as the default | 19:39 |
| blinky | leftyfb, on it | 19:40 |
| blinky | leftyfb, it worked! Thank you so much!\ | 19:42 |
| JanC | open PDF in Evince (the default PDF reader), select some text, right click, select Highlight Selected Text in the pop-up menu | 19:42 |
| leftyfb | blinky: https://askubuntu.com/questions/67216/unable-to-choose-default-application | 19:43 |
| leftyfb | found by typing "ubuntu "open with" "add" grayed out" into google | 19:43 |
| leftyfb | I was originally going to suggest manually typing in the binary location for the app as an "open with" application, but that button is grayed out with gtk3 now ... no idea why it's still there | 19:43 |
| blinky | JanC, that works too! | 19:44 |
| leftyfb | but at least it brought us to a working method | 19:44 |
| blinky | leftyfb, yes | 19:45 |
| blinky | Thank you leftyfb | 19:45 |
| blinky | How do I set the "power mode" to "Performance" by default? | 19:46 |
| leftyfb | blinky: go to settings -> power | 19:46 |
| blinky | leftyfb, I have tried that but it resets after reboot. | 19:47 |
| blinky | resets to the default "Balanced" option | 19:48 |
| JanC | for most purposes Balance is pretty much as fast as Performance, but it will use significantly less power... | 19:56 |
| blinky | I see | 19:57 |
| blinky | I moved to Ubuntu because Windows 11 was frustratingly slow and bloated. | 19:58 |
| JanC | blinky: basically with Performance the CPU will run at/around full speed all the time, while with Balance it will slow down when it's not being used, and then speed up again when it is used | 20:01 |
| blinky | JanC, I see. I didn't know that. | 20:01 |
| JanC | running the CPU at full speed when it's not doing anything useful is just a waste of electricity :) | 20:01 |
| blinky | I see that now. | 20:02 |
| JanC | also, "Performance" will make the CPU hot, and probably will also make the fans spin faster & louder | 20:03 |
| blinky | I see. | 20:03 |
| JanC | on my the system the different in CPU temperature is: ~45°C with Performance & ~35°C with Balance, so that's 10°C difference | 20:05 |
| blinky | How to check that? | 20:05 |
| blinky | will this set the power mode to performance at start-up? - powerprofilesctl set performance | 20:09 |
| bertro | sudo apt install lm-sensors | 20:10 |
| bertro | and then run the command: sensors | 20:10 |
| bertro | and you'll have the CPU temp (along with other useful info) | 20:11 |
| blinky | Thank you bertro | 20:11 |
| oerheks | sensors-detect | 20:12 |
| blinky | oerheks, that was very detailed. Thank you for that command! | 20:21 |
| blinky | it's almost like dxdiag on Windows | 20:23 |
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| mr_red | howdy | 20:35 |
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| Kangarooo | I just did upgrade to 24.04. | 21:11 |
| Kangarooo | I got notification in process that some 3rd party sources removed. Now i want to enable. Where basic user can do that? | 21:11 |
| Kangarooo | VLC is lost. How did that happen? was it then when I was asked also to remove packages? Why was VLC a normal app also removed? | 21:11 |
| Kangarooo | im on kubuntu. maybe i can install something so i can again enable software soucres? | 21:11 |
| leftyfb | Kangarooo: just reinstall it | 21:12 |
| leftyfb | Kangarooo: sudo snap install vlc | 21:12 |
| enigma9o7 | software sources is where basic user can enable/disable sources, but note some of them may be specifically for jammy, so take special care to make sur ehtey support noble for enabling. | 21:12 |
| leftyfb | or use the software store | 21:12 |
| leftyfb | Kangarooo: you should only focus on adding 3rd party repositories you know you might need | 21:13 |
| Kangarooo | leftyfb: how? now i dont have button software sources after update. i think i had before | 21:18 |
| leftyfb | Kangarooo: "button software sources"? | 21:18 |
| Kangarooo | in software center yes | 21:18 |
| Kangarooo | named "discover" | 21:18 |
| leftyfb | Kangarooo: why do you think you need to mess with software sources right now? | 21:19 |
| Kangarooo | to renable back and edit | 21:19 |
| leftyfb | "renable back" what? | 21:19 |
| Kangarooo | disabled on upgrade 3rd party sources | 21:20 |
| leftyfb | Kangarooo: make a list of the applications you want to install and install them | 21:21 |
| leftyfb | don't worry about 3rd party repositories unless you come across an application you know you need and the only way to get it is from a 3rd party repository | 21:21 |
| leftyfb | Kangarooo: name an application you don't have installed that you need | 21:22 |
| Kangarooo | leftyfb: well krita was not opening, macro app actiona was not opening and vlc lost. after fix-upgrade obs also disapeared but other 2 started working. vlc needed to install manually. and i have at least one or 2 3rd party for chrome and maybe anydesk. maybe another app i dont remember. | 21:28 |
| leftyfb | Kangarooo: 1 at a time | 21:28 |
| leftyfb | Kangarooo: sudo snap install vlc | 21:28 |
| leftyfb | that covers vlc | 21:28 |
| leftyfb | for google chome you go to google.com/chrome and follow the instructions | 21:28 |
| enigma9o7 | (as does sudo apt install vlc if you prefer a native system package) | 21:29 |
| leftyfb | krita is: sudo apt install krita | 21:29 |
| leftyfb | Kangarooo: look for the applications using the store or on the command line using apt and snap. If you can't find it there, then you'll need to reach out to the vendor for support | 21:30 |
| leftyfb | blindly adding 3rd party repositories without first doing the above is begging for problems | 21:31 |
| Kangarooo | ok. got all working | 21:33 |
| Kangarooo | thx enigma9o7 leftyfb | 21:33 |
| arkanoid | Hi. I was upgrading from 22.04 to 24.04 on my Ubuntu Desktop following Software Update graphical wizard, when suddenly screen went black and I get no feedback. I can still SSH into the desktop | 22:30 |
| arkanoid | This is very sad | 22:31 |
| arkanoid | I waited for LTS to LTS upgrade path to avoid problems, here I have a failing installer | 22:32 |
| arkanoid | It happened after downloading packages, just at the beginning of the installation of them | 22:33 |
| arkanoid | Somehow after libc but not sure | 22:34 |
| arkanoid | How can I resume the installation or possibly try to not brick the machine while ssh still works? | 22:35 |
| toddc | !details | arkanoid | 22:45 |
| ubottu | arkanoid: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. | 22:45 |
| arkanoid | toddc: what else do you need to know? | 22:46 |
| arkanoid | The screen is black, no mouse no desktop. I'm into SSH shell via smartphone | 22:47 |
| toddc | arkanoid: did you disable all non ubuntu repos? | 22:49 |
| JanC | the upgrade tool does that | 22:50 |
| JanC | you don't have to do it yourself | 22:50 |
| arkanoid | Ubuntu self committed the worst thing in the most vulnerable situation. It killed distro the installer halfway, but the kernel did not panic | 22:50 |
| arkanoid | As I said, it failed after downloading the packages, just at the beginning of the installation | 22:50 |
| arkanoid | It means that it has already disabled the third party packages | 22:50 |
| JanC | I think there should be a log file with the progress somewhere under /var/log | 22:51 |
| arkanoid | This is a complete disaster | 22:54 |
| arkanoid | I will never trust graphical installer again on Linux, never | 22:55 |
| leftyfb | arkanoid: login and run: sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade | 22:55 |
| arkanoid | 3227 packages can be upgraded. | 22:56 |
| leftyfb | hit enter to continue the process | 22:56 |
| arkanoid | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). | 22:57 |
| leftyfb | arkanoid: sudo apt install -f | 22:57 |
| arkanoid | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Unable to correct dependencies | 22:57 |
| leftyfb | there's more to it than that | 22:58 |
| leftyfb | I'm guessing you have 3rd party applications installed from 3rd party repositories that might be causing conflicts | 22:58 |
| leftyfb | arkanoid: please post the whole response after: sudo apt install -f | 22:58 |
| arkanoid | Wait I'm looking how to do that don't remember. Was nc something | 22:58 |
| leftyfb | I don't think apt install -f is going to work well piping to nc | 22:59 |
| arkanoid | https://termbin.com/2nzl | 22:59 |
| arkanoid | It does if 2>&1 | 22:59 |
| leftyfb | libgtk3-perl isn't installed? | 23:01 |
| leftyfb | that isn't right | 23:01 |
| leftyfb | that's a default package | 23:01 |
| arkanoid | It did it all itself. I was in a 22.04 desktop, just following the upgrade proposal wizard that the system gave me | 23:03 |
| arkanoid | Not sure why I did trust that instead of going into a virtual console with tmux and running upgrade there | 23:03 |
| oerheks | worth a bugreport? | 23:05 |
| leftyfb | arkanoid: sudo apt install libgtk3-perl gnome-software software-properties-gtk ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk | 23:05 |
| arkanoid | leftyfb: thanks for helping me out. I have to operate via smartphone so please be patient | 23:06 |
| arkanoid | https://termbin.com/b5x5 | 23:08 |
| leftyfb | christ | 23:08 |
| arkanoid | Yeah, exactly | 23:10 |
| oerheks | clean lists and run updates again? | 23:10 |
| arkanoid | How? | 23:10 |
| oerheks | snap refresh | 23:11 |
| oerheks | sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* | 23:11 |
| oerheks | sudo apt update | 23:11 |
| arkanoid | All snaps are up to date | 23:12 |
| leftyfb | arkanoid: sudo apt install --reinstall gir1.2-webkit2-4.1 gnome-software gnome-software-common libadwaita-1-0 libappstream5 libcairo-gobject-perl libfwupd2 libglib2.0-0t64 libglib-object-introspection-perl libglib-perl libgtk-4-1 libhtml-parser-perl libhttp-message-perl libreoffice-core libreoffice-core-nogui libsoup-3.0-0 libwww-perl libxml-parser-perl python3-distupgrade python3-software-properties python3-uno ubuntu-release-upgrader-core | 23:12 |
| leftyfb | update-manager | 23:12 |
| arkanoid | leftyfb: Thanks, ill do that in a minute, but I've just noticed something interesting | 23:12 |
| arkanoid | If I do apt update, I see third party repositories being downloaded | 23:13 |
| leftyfb | I would note "interesting" things here before attempting to act on them | 23:13 |
| arkanoid | It may be the cause? I'm pretty sure I got the warning that the third party repos would have been disabled during the graphical update wizard | 23:13 |
| leftyfb | regardless of what documentation says, you should always manually remove all 3rd party repositories AND all packages installed from them | 23:13 |
| leftyfb | 3rd party repo's and their installed packages almost always break upgrades | 23:14 |
| oerheks | those should be disabled | 23:14 |
| leftyfb | /should/ | 23:15 |
| leftyfb | but also, disabled != removed | 23:15 |
| leftyfb | and sometimes 3rd party repo's will "upgrade" stock packages | 23:15 |
| oerheks | yes worth notice for a bug thingy | 23:15 |
| arkanoid | Well, the wizard said they would have been disabled, but now they seem not disabled | 23:15 |
| leftyfb | now you have to downgrade said package just to get to a stable state | 23:15 |
| oerheks | arkanoid, which ones? | 23:16 |
| arkanoid | oerheks: I see Teamviewer, docker, qgis, element and postgre https://termbin.com/z7bg | 23:17 |
| leftyfb | bad | 23:17 |
| leftyfb | and all those ddeb repos should be disabled as well | 23:18 |
| leftyfb | get to a simple, stock state ... then go and re-customize your system after | 23:18 |
| oerheks | noble-backports kinky | 23:18 |
| arkanoid | Well, update is in change here. Update can disable, remove, safe update | 23:18 |
| oerheks | 🤪 | 23:19 |
| arkanoid | I was very OK with Ubuntu disabling all third party stuff | 23:19 |
| arkanoid | It failed to do so and went harakiri | 23:19 |
| ch40s | ver irc.scenep2p.net | 23:20 |
| leftyfb | this is why I never upgrade. No matter what documentation tells you, upgrades will never give you a fully clean and stable state. You just might never notice the cruft or potential problems. It's a lot quicker and cleaner to just install fresh, run an ansible playbook to re-install your apps and make all your config changes, then restore your files from backup | 23:20 |
| arkanoid | leftyfb: only if you have very easy setup | 23:20 |
| leftyfb | lol | 23:21 |
| leftyfb | false | 23:21 |
| leftyfb | I guarantee you my setup is a lot more complicated and customized than yours | 23:21 |
| leftyfb | my ansible repository has 679 files in it | 23:21 |
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| arkanoid | Lol, this system has been running since Ubuntu 14 | 23:22 |
| oerheks | any new lts comes with new features | 23:22 |
| leftyfb | arkanoid: perfect time to start over | 23:22 |
| arkanoid | leftyfb: no. I leave ansible for proper use | 23:22 |
| leftyfb | what? | 23:22 |
| arkanoid | I also use it to manage work servers | 23:22 |
| oerheks | so ansible failed? | 23:22 |
| arkanoid | This is a workstation | 23:22 |
| arkanoid | This is an Ubuntu desktop installation, and I'm using it like so. | 23:23 |
| leftyfb | arkanoid: ansible is more than perfectly capable of creating a fully customized desktop | 23:23 |
| arkanoid | leftyfb: I'd use nix for that | 23:24 |
| arkanoid | Apart from charring. I have a system to fix. So the installer failed to remove third party stuff, but I can still operate | 23:25 |
| leftyfb | and yet here we are with your broken OS with probably no where to go but to reinstall from scratch. An ansible playbook would get you back and running in less than 5 minutes | 23:25 |
| arkanoid | So now I need to remove all the third party stuff | 23:25 |
| arkanoid | Manually | 23:25 |
| arkanoid | Quickest way to do that? | 23:25 |
| leftyfb | arkanoid: if you're missing libgtk3-perl, you have a verymuch broken system | 23:25 |
| leftyfb | arkanoid: delete the /etc/apt/sources.d/ files (not ubuntu.sources) | 23:26 |
| arkanoid | I've been in worst situations. I have yet shell | 23:26 |
| oerheks | weird dependencie bug | 23:26 |
| arkanoid | And kernel | 23:26 |
| leftyfb | but I would first be sure to remove all the associated packages from each repo | 23:26 |
| oerheks | not real | 23:26 |
| arkanoid | I'm going with https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/third-party-repository-usage#how-to-remove-a-repository | 23:28 |
| arkanoid | That script won't work too, as apt complains even for removing | 23:30 |
| leftyfb | arkanoid: sudo apt install --reinstall gir1.2-webkit2-4.1 gnome-software gnome-software-common libadwaita-1-0 libappstream5 libcairo-gobject-perl libfwupd2 libglib2.0-0t64 libglib-object-introspection-perl libglib-perl libgtk-4-1 libhtml-parser-perl libhttp-message-perl libreoffice-core libreoffice-core-nogui libsoup-3.0-0 libwww-perl libxml-parser-perl python3-distupgrade python3-software-properties python3-uno ubuntu-release-upgrader-core | 23:31 |
| leftyfb | update-manager | 23:31 |
| arkanoid | More unmet dependencies | 23:33 |
| arkanoid | https://termbin.com/qdkn | 23:34 |
| leftyfb | good luck ... you need to go through and find all the packages listed there and add them to the command above | 23:34 |
| arkanoid | leftyfb: you think? I think theres a better solution. I'm experimenting now | 23:59 |
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