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bray90820Is there a channel for ubuntu touch00:09
servalis there a general chat00:10
enigma9o7there's #ubuntu-discuss for ubuntu related discussions, #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chat00:11
enigma9o7as far as ubtouch, is #ubuntu-touch still active?   if not maybe #ubtouch or #ubports ?00:12
enigma9o7if no luck there, maybe check their forum or ask there https://forums.ubports.com00:13
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webchat38Hi, I am facing some problem upgrading my 22.04 to the latest version. Is there anyone that can help?03:49
rboxhow can anyone know if they can help if you haven't said what the problem is03:51
webchat38I don't know how to say it. There are several errors. I have screenshots but it doesn't here how to send them03:51
webchat38I am getting several errors trying to update from 'Software Updater'03:52
enigma9o7If you mention one of the errors, that might be useful.  As far as getting screenshots, it's best to post them on an external site and provide links here.03:57
Bashing-omwebchat38: Show us these errors: Terminal command 'sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ' the result is a URL - pass that link back here.03:58
omega_doomI use ubuntu 22.04. Virtual box stopped working. vbox version 6.1.50 .I see a suggestions to remove official cannonical vbox and install vbox version 7 from an oracle websight. Is it right way to go?04:52
omega_doomTh error is ERROR [COM]: aRC=NS_ERROR_INVALID_ARG (0x80070057) aIID={4680b2de-8690-11e9-b83d-5719e53cf1de} aComponent={DisplayWrap} aText={Argument aWidth is invalid (must be aWidth != 0 && aWidth <= 32767)}, preserve=false aResultDetail=004:53
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janne_hello guys, have someone of you touched wow private server things? im looking for scripts for a server to compile, just my my own amusement. The things ive found so far hasent really been what i thought of, and i cant code for sh*t, LOL!08:01
diogenessjanne_: try asking an AI08:03
janne_diogeness: i have been arguing and almost fighting with "blackbox.ai" for example, the chatbot, because its stupid sometimes! (i guess i am too) so i think we misscommunicate now and then. (read as; asked for both communitys and codewriting in couple of different ways)08:06
diogenessjanne_: why you only stopped at one option? There are many others.08:08
janne_diogeness: i have tried more ai chats, but im not very well wandered in AI bots, so i dont really know many, wich is free aswell08:09
diogenessjanne_: asking a question is also and art, you need to study the subject in order to even ask a question correctly and that's already half of success.08:11
janne_sure is, and i think thats why i ended up here, cause i really dont know how to get further! lool! i have found a github resp, with various of scripts, but for example, the vip script is missing some of what i want it to include, but to make the bot understand what i want is a hard work. Also, theres more than one file that has to be rewritten, so im getting lost in the process aswell (more than i was initially), because i have08:14
janne_never written code myself08:14
gebbionehello08:20
janne_gebbione: hello08:20
diogenessjanne_: actually there is no problem, the general rule says that when you cannot fix/do something yourself, you hire a competent person who will do that for you :)08:31
gebbionead majorem https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250013209:05
vorteckzhi al09:07
vorteckzall09:07
dustballhi, i've set up three new systems and apt claims there are packages to upgrade, but depending on system, it's either 2 or 3 packages (python3-update-manager, update-manager-core, and optionally shim-signed). no amount of "apt update; apt -y upgrade" gets them updated. the unattended upgrades log similarly claims there to be a hold, yet apt mark-shows nothing. i guess my first question is: "what the fuck?" and the second "ho09:42
dustballw do i fix this?"09:42
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miguel2013hi10:48
miguel2013I'm having trouble with 2 packages that crashed while installing it using apt, the microsd ubuntu was installed on became read-only and i have to reboot basicaly, now those 2 packages python3-uno and python3-libvoikk won't install, they cause segmentation fault while reinstalling or purging them, is there a way to purge them so i can reinstall them10:50
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miguel2013I'm runing from ubuntu with now using that card I'm on recovery mode tho so no x or gui10:51
miguel2013I don't have to reboot i can run the os fine i believe just have those 2 pacakges broken10:51
miguel2013help10:52
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tomreynmiguel2013: i'm afraid there is no way to solve hardware issues in software. if your sd card is broken, your only option is to reinstall ubuntu to different, working storage media11:00
miguel2013a11:05
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BluesKajHi all11:28
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ElliriaHey there. Would the last post on this page (the one by Ian D) be a reasonable way to check root's mail without having to install or use an MTA or run the mail through your mail client? https://askubuntu.com/questions/2261/how-are-administrators-supposed-to-read-roots-mail13:51
tomreynElliria: this post does not describe a way for the user to become aware of new email.14:13
ElliriaRight. It's a script that has to be run manually. Is the script safe to run?14:14
tomreynit describes a way of moving locally received email messages out of the users' mail directory and into a datestamped file in /tmp, a directory which, by default, is cleared upon reboot on current ubuntu releases.14:15
ElliriaWould it do any harm?14:16
tomreynother than you will likely not become aware of the messages and loose them, i don't think so14:16
tomreynbut i don't see how that would do any good, by itself.14:17
ElliriaIf I specified a directory in my home directory, they wouldn't get removed.14:17
tomreynthat's (most likely) right. what do you gain from it, though?14:18
ElliriaI'm cleaning out my personal wiki that's got suggestions and steps for various things in it. This one guy edited his hosts.deny file to put instructions in it to mail root with details any time something is denied. This can be useful for troubleshooting connection issues. Pairing that with the script I linked to would be a short-and-sweet way of doing the troubleshooting without having to install and configure an MTA.14:19
ElliriaAnd in case you're curious, here's his /etc/hosts.deny file: https://bpa.st/O3ULM14:21
ElliriaHe gave the example that when he tried to enable ftpd in the /etc/hosts.allow file, he received an email indicating that in.ftpd was denied, so he changed ftpd: to in.ftpd: to solve the issue.14:22
tomreynoof, i'd be quite weary to put such potentially DoS-able scripts into place, and to use hosts.deny for managing inbound connections (use a firewall instead).14:24
tomreynbut YMMV14:24
tomreyns/weary to put/careful about putting/14:25
ElliriaIt's for short-term troubleshooting. In other words, if you did what he did and ftp didn't work, you put that script into hosts.deny and check root's mail to see what's going on and then remove it from hosts.deny afterward.14:25
tomreynit would only work if the connection was rejection by tcpwrappers, though14:26
tomreynanyways, you do what you think is good, this is none of my business. ;)14:27
ElliriaHeh. Thanks. I was just worried about what it might do to the root account and since you didn't mention any negatives at that end, all is good. Just cleaning out my wiki.14:28
tomreynhopefully this system is not exposed to the internet, though14:28
ElliriaThat's easy enough to prevent.14:29
Exadustball: if you are still looking for an answer for your question five hours ago, use apt-get dist-upgrade instead of upgrade (or apt full-upgrade if running the command from your terminal and not a script). upgrade will never uninstall packages, which may be required to upgrade some packages. dist-upgrade will do so.14:30
dustballExa: i don't want to dist-upgrade, it's a fresh 22.04, all that's done was apt update; apt -y upgrade.14:31
dustballor should i use dist-upgrade instead of apt upgrade every time?14:31
Exathe name of dist-upgrade is misleading14:32
Exadustball: yes, you generally should use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade. this avoid issues that may come with partial upgrades14:33
Exathough, make sure you check what packages get uninstalled14:33
dustballapt dist-upgrade does the same as apt upgrade: nothing. `the following packages have been kept back`, then it lists the same packages as before.14:34
tomreyn!phased | dustball14:36
ubottudustball: Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info.14:36
dustballthen why doesn't apt say that? why even list them?14:37
tomreyn^ i#m not certain that this is what you're seeing here, althoug the package names may suggest so14:37
tomreyni assume a future version of apt would.14:37
tomreynsee the links above for a way to check whether these are phased updates14:38
dustballtomreyn: looking through the bugreport, i'm getting the same behaviour, so thank you for clearing that up. and i'll now go look for a new job that doesn't involve ubuntu. i've spent time that could've been used better on hunting down intentional bullshit.14:39
lotuspsychjedustball: if you doubt, feel free to use a !paste to share your apt output, so the volunteers can help you better14:39
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nuovolnxcan someone help me to configure the audio in linuxmint? In firefox i don't hear the rear speakers, the upmix from stereo to 5.1 doesn't work14:54
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leftyfb!mint | nuovolnx14:56
ubottunuovolnx: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/14:56
BardonHello, I compiled Linux myself, booted it under Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS, it seemed to work (although I had no wifi and no snap). I rebooted under the kernel provided by Ubuntu, and now I cannot launch snap softwares15:13
BardonI get a bunch of permission denied15:13
BardonSo I tried to uninstall firefox, which didn't make the icon go away. When I type `firefox` in my terminal, it says "Command '/usr/bin/firefox' requires the firefox snap to be installed. Please install it with: snap install firefox". When I do, it says " firefox already installed, see « snap help refresh »".15:15
BardonWhat can I do?15:15
sixwheeledbeastI don't use snaps. If you don't care for snaps you can install things other ways.15:18
sixwheeledbeastI be more concerned that other things aren't working15:19
leftyfbBardon: try: sudo apt install --reinstall snapd15:20
Bardonleftyfb: I solved it by snap disable thunderbird, snap enable thunderbird. Seems to work, I have no clue why15:21
BardonIs there a way to see the .config used to compile the Ubuntu kernel?15:22
BardonI'm interested in the one used to compile kernel version 5.11 and 5.12 back in Ubuntu 21.04 and 21.1015:22
tomreynsee /boot/config-* for installed ubuntu kernel images15:26
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BardonI got it, thanks :)15:29
BardonIs it also archived in a git somewhere?15:29
tomreynprobably one of the kernel image git repositories on launchpad15:29
tomreynthere is #ubuntu-kernel15:30
BardonOk, thanks15:35
guest818567I am having trouble enabling livepatch15:37
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tomreynsince that's a !pro functionality, and we're 'just' community (not commercial) support, you may want to talk to commercial support instead (and/or read any available documentation)15:39
GodGinraiI'm piping a command into bash for bash to execute.  The command uses a function from a file I need to source.  What is the best way to get the bash I'm piping into to source the file?15:43
tomreynGodGinrai: https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Sourcing15:50
tomreynsee also #bash15:50
GodGinraitomreyn: this doesn't cover my use case.  But thank you for pointing out that there's a #bash.15:56
tomreyni think it does, when you use absolute paths to refer to the sourced script, but, sure, YMMV.15:57
GodGinraiI'm piping *into* bash. There's no way for me to source the script unless I were to add a source line into the commands I'm piping.16:00
tomreynright, you could add a "source <...>" or ". <...>" line to what you're piping16:26
tomreynonce it was sourced, the function should be available.16:26
tomreynlooks like you're benig well supported in #bash, and also explained it in more detail there.16:29
militantorcis there a standard way to install raw .deb files in a repeatable manner; ie so it can be uninstalled later16:47
leftyfbmilitantorc: sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>16:47
militantorcleftyfb, and how does one uninstall that16:48
leftyfbyou can use apt, apt-get or dpkg to remove it after16:48
militantorcok16:48
militantorcthats what i was worried aobut16:48
militantorci still think i'd rather install a deb in a chroot whenever the need arises to16:48
leftyfbyou can also use apt to install the .deb if you give it the full path to the file16:48
leftyfbmilitantorc: I don't understand the problem16:48
militantorcsince raw .debs are outside the structure of apts repos16:49
sixwheeledbeastI don't know about a standard way but personally I put them all in a ~/.deb so I can find them to run gdebi16:49
militantorcI'd rather install them separately16:49
leftyfbmilitantorc: ok?16:49
leftyfbmilitantorc: so what's wrong with using apt or dpkg to install or remove them?16:49
militantorcdoes apt keep track of them as any other package in its repo16:49
militantorcif so then i guess its okay16:49
leftyfbit does as far as showing you it's installed and if there's an update in the repos16:50
militantorcleftyfb, i meant more in regard to if it conflicts with any deps in an apt installed package. in any case generally when it comes to stuff outside apt i prefer to install them in their own dirs/chroots usually16:55
leftyfbmilitantorc: using apt install install them will prevent/warn you of that16:55
militantorcI see, ok16:56
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militantorcnightnotdark, present your case here17:20
nightnotdarkSo basically , I tried installing minecraft and java (from their official websites) and i kept getting errors;17:23
nightnotdark1. the package installed auto exited and i thought it might have isntalled the app, so i went to menu but *it wasnt there*17:23
nightnotdark2. when i opened the deb file using package manager again, it showed me a error telling me that theres some brocken dependences and told me to try using this code "sudo apt-get install -f" and now its installed17:23
leftyfbnightnotdark: remove everything you've done so far and run: sudo snap install mc-installer17:24
nightnotdarkmc launcher is installed17:24
leftyfbyou just say you used their "official websites"17:24
nightnotdarki didnt mean to ping the mc guy17:24
nightnotdarkyes i used the official websites, and downlaoded the deb packages17:25
leftyfbremove them17:25
leftyfbnightnotdark: remove everything you've done so far and run: sudo snap install mc-installer17:25
nightnotdarkbut bro minecraft launcher is installing17:25
nightnotdarkjava is installed aswell17:25
leftyfbnightnotdark: from snap?17:25
leftyfbusing the command I just gave?17:25
nightnotdarkidk abt that17:25
nightnotdarkno not that command17:25
leftyfbnightnotdark: remove everything you've done so far and run: sudo snap install mc-installer17:25
militantorcleftyfb, he installed with the .deb file from minecraft website17:26
nightnotdark`when i opened the deb file using package manager again, it showed me a error telling me that theres some brocken dependences and told me to try using this code "sudo apt-get install -f" and now its installed`17:26
nightnotdarkdid u read the part where i said its installed after running the `code` attached17:26
leftyfbok, so either install the snap instead and have a working minecraft, or contact Microsoft with their 3rd party application installer17:26
militantorcif ubuntu intends you to use its own launcher then that should be better yes17:27
nightnotdarkwhy.. contact microsoft?17:27
leftyfbbut only after you remove everything you've done so far, including removing any packages from the website17:27
militantorcits the same with steam. steam used to have their own installer at least back when i used 16.04. 18 onwards it seems to be available from apt17:27
leftyfbnightnotdark: we cannot support .deb's from 3rd party websites17:27
nightnotdarki downloaded it from minecraft.net and the java from java website???17:27
leftyfbnightnotdark: I'm pretty sure your only concern right now is to get minecraft working. Remove everything you've installed for minecraft so far and just run the command I've given you and move on17:28
militantorcdon't download java from java website17:28
militantorcunless you need a newer jdk thats not in apt17:28
leftyfbyou don't need any of that with the snap17:28
nightnotdarkokay i will remove everything17:28
nightnotdarkhow do i remove the minecraft launcher as well17:28
leftyfbnightnotdark: probably "sudo apt remove <name of package you installed"17:29
militantorcdpkg -l installed | grep -ai minecraft17:29
nightnotdarkleftyfb huh17:29
nightnotdarkokay wait17:30
nightnotdarkbro it installed a lots of things17:30
militantorcnightnotdark, dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep -ai minecraft17:30
nightnotdarkhttps://bpa.st/WKERQ17:31
nightnotdarkmilitantorcwhat is that for?17:31
militantorcor I suppose17:31
militantorcyou cna do dpkg -I on the deb file17:31
militantorcnightnotdark, to find the name of the package that was installed17:31
nightnotdarkthere were a lot17:31
militantorci think dpkg -I Minecraft.deb would be better17:31
nightnotdarkhttps://bpa.st/WKERQ17:31
nightnotdarklook here in : https://bpa.st/WKERQ17:32
leftyfbnightnotdark: what file did you download from Microsoft?17:32
nightnotdarkwdym17:32
militantorcnightnotdark, do this17:32
nightnotdarki used minecraft.net and https://www.oracle.com/bh/java/technologies/downloads/17:32
militantorcdpkg -I Minecraft.deb17:32
nightnotdarkok17:32
leftyfbnightnotdark: sudo apt remove --purge --autoremove minecraft-launcher Minecraft17:32
nightnotdarkleftyfband militantorc it didnt work17:33
nightnotdarki tried ya all boths code, but error17:33
leftyfbdefine "didn't work"17:33
militantorcnightnotdark, dpkg -I will tell you the package name17:33
leftyfbpastebin please17:33
militantorcuse apt to remove that name17:33
nightnotdarkhttps://bpa.st/WE4CI17:34
militantorc Package: minecraft-launcher17:34
nightnotdarkbut why am i reinstalling it, minecraft launcher and java is succesfully installed17:34
leftyfbnightnotdark: sudo apt remove --purge --autoremove minecraft-launcher17:34
militantorcyes so that package name was 'minecraft-launcher'17:34
militantorcwhich you've already removed17:34
nightnotdarki havent removed anything17:35
leftyfbmilitantorc: I see no indication it was removed17:35
leftyfbnightnotdark: sudo apt remove --purge --autoremove minecraft-launcher17:35
militantorcoh i see17:35
militantorcyeah do just minecraft-launcher then17:35
nightnotdarkhttps://bpa.st/BXVS417:36
nightnotdarkdone ig?17:36
leftyfbdid it complete successfully?17:36
nightnotdarkhttps://bpa.st/BXVS417:36
nightnotdarkcheck this17:36
leftyfbno errors?17:37
nightnotdarkidts17:37
leftyfbwhat is idts?17:37
militantorcThe log looks normal to me17:37
nightnotdarkI dont think so = idts17:37
nightnotdarkokay so what i do now17:37
leftyfbok, now: sudo snap install mc-installer17:37
sixwheeledbeastnightnotdark: #minecraft channel exists, but you probably need openjdk-21-jre17:37
leftyfbno17:37
leftyfbsixwheeledbeast: please stop17:37
leftyfbthey do not need openjdk-21-jre17:38
nightnotdarkbut i think i have openjdk 2117:38
leftyfbdoesn't matter17:38
sixwheeledbeastthe dpkg leaves you needing to do -f install because of dependency issue.17:38
nightnotdarkyeh17:38
militantorcwith snap, it should come with all dependencies17:38
leftyfb^17:38
sixwheeledbeastI don't recommend using the default launcher myself but again more for #minecraft17:39
nightnotdarkbut all dependencies were installed when i did -f ig, heres the code : https://bpa.st/WKERQ17:39
leftyfbsixwheeledbeast: stop17:39
nightnotdarkplease check this :sob: https://bpa.st/WKERQ17:39
leftyfbnightnotdark: sudo snap install mc-installer17:39
nightnotdarkyeh i did17:39
leftyfbok, now open minecraft and have fun17:40
nightnotdarkits doing "something"17:40
leftyfbok, it's still installing17:40
nightnotdark`download snap mc launcher from channel stable`17:40
militantorcit will take some time17:40
militantorcsnaps are huge17:40
nightnotdarkbtw i have java in my menu17:40
nightnotdarkdo i need java or should i remove it17:41
leftyfbignore it17:41
militantorcsince they come with basically all the packages needed for it, starting from x/wayland itself17:41
leftyfbjust leave it17:41
nightnotdarkok17:41
militantorcnightnotdark, with snaps you don't need to think about dependencies17:41
militantorca snap comes coupled with all the deps it needs17:41
nightnotdarkok17:41
militantorcjava version, xorg/wayland, etc everything17:42
nightnotdarkbut what im saying is that i had got some dependencies installed when i ran the -f code17:42
leftyfbyou don't need them for the snap and you don't need to remove them17:42
nightnotdarkok17:42
leftyfbunless you're running into apt issues which you aren't currently since you were able to remove the minecraft-launcher17:43
nightnotdarkokay17:43
nightnotdarki got "minecraft" in my menu, so its the mc launcher, right17:44
leftyfbyes, run it and play17:44
nightnotdarkcuz normally the launcher comes as "minecraft launcher"17:44
leftyfbhave fun17:44
nightnotdarkwell its still isntalling lol, but thanks man17:46
nightnotdarkthanks leftyfb and militantorc17:46
nightnotdarkcan i same way install discord or what17:48
leftyfbnightnotdark: sudo snap install discord17:49
nightnotdarkleftyfb its done installing minecraft, i clicked on the minecraft from menu and now its installing the launcher17:50
leftyfbnightnotdark: you know you can also just open the "Ubuntu Software" app built into ubuntu and search for applications right?17:50
nightnotdarkhuh17:50
nightnotdarkwhich one17:50
nightnotdarkI see a "app centre"17:50
leftyfbuh17:50
nightnotdarkim on xubuntu17:51
leftyfboh17:51
leftyfbyeah, I'm not familiar with the xubuntu applications17:51
nightnotdarkoh ic17:51
leftyfbit might be the same thing17:51
nightnotdarkhttps://imgur.com/a/XbYvDFU17:52
nightnotdarkthis is how it looks like17:52
leftyfbsure17:53
nightnotdarkso, its the "software" app u talking abt17:53
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panekihello everyone21:53
bpromptallo paneki21:58
panekianyone know how to fix error "failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such fioe or directory" runiing chroot of ubuntu on android, need i download something ?21:59
bpromptpaneki: sounds like you're running chroot on a Busybox session?22:01
panekiyes it is22:02
bpromptpaneki: hmmm dunno myself, it may just be an issue on Busybox being sandboxed by android, but sounds a bit of an androis OS issue though, not exactly an Ubuntu OS issue per se, I haven't done a chroot in busybox myself22:06
panekiok np thx22:09
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Paddy_NIHello I am wondering if I can install multiple separate instances of firefox? I think that is supposed to be one of the features of snap22:33
Paddy_NIOr maybe I read that wrong22:33
JanCthere are many ways you can do that, and snap isn't particularly relevant for it22:34
Paddy_NIWhen I go to the "App Center" and locate firefox there I get "switch channel", "Uninstall" or "Update". No install new instance or anything like that?22:35
Paddy_NIJanC: I thought that was one of the purposes22:35
Paddy_NIOr one of the features being touted22:36
bprompthmmm22:38
bpromptPaddy_NI: for what is worth, if you download the bzip2 compressed file version of Firefox, available from their site, it runs right off whatever directory you uncompressed it at as a stand-alone22:39
bpromptPaddy_NI: and pretty sure they have an FTP archive from where you can get many versions of it22:39
Paddy_NIbprompt: Yeah that was what I did prior to snap/flatpak etc, it's a bit iffy but works.22:39
Paddy_NIIt's a shame that the feature being touted as easy does not actually exist in the wild.22:40
Paddy_NII suppose it got more refined and focused with regards it's intended purpose22:40
Paddy_NIOr rather it figured out what problem it was trying to solve after it was invented22:41
Paddy_NIbprompt: I do think it would be cool if even only on the cli install method we could actually install multiple versions of the same app.22:41
Paddy_NIIt would be super useful.22:42
Paddy_NIHmm... interesting https://snapcraft.io/docs/parallel-installs22:44
bpromptPaddy_NI: yes and no, from a Developer's standpoint, that's very useful, from a JoeSixPacks standpoint that can be an unnecessary hassle22:46
bpromptPaddy_NI: so I agree with your view, however I'm mindful is Biased :)22:46
Paddy_NI:-)22:46
blahdeblahHi. During some recent update, my 22.04 system ended up with the gnome-46-2404 snap installed, which promptly broke my most-loved extensions, along with the package which manages them.  Is there any reason why I shouldn't remove this snap?  gnome-42-2204, which seems like the one for jammy is still installed.23:30
sarnoldblahdeblah: the gnome-* snaps are probably only used by whatever application snaps you've got installed -- if you don't use them, they can probably go without trouble23:52
leftyfbyeah, I don't think gnome snaps affect gnome extensions23:53
leftyfbthey're just gnome compatibility for snaps23:53

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