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juanjohello?00:09
juanjoits anyone here?00:09
jazzyanyone have an idea as to what's going on here? Trying to launch chrome via a web scraping tool and I'm getting this error: https://i.snipboard.io/JtBTEP.jpg03:34
jazzyif you don't want to click:03:34
jazzy(chrome:40808): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: 20:31:06.930: Settings schema 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings' does not contain a key named 'antialiasing'03:34
LuckyManjazzy, shouldn't you be using chromium instead of chrome?03:47
jazzythat's what puppeteer defaults to03:47
jazzyLuckyMan: when I force it to use chromium, though, it still errors out03:47
jazzymuch less verbosely though03:47
LuckyManAnyway I can't see how this is related to Ubuntu...03:48
jazzyLuckyMan: I see gnome, I see daemon, I think ubuntu03:49
jazzydidn't happen on my mac03:49
LuckyManjazzy you should probably ask in chrome support03:50
jazzyI'll try installing pop os and report back haha03:50
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aidan-shackyo whats hexchat04:27
LuckyManaidan-shack, it's a Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client04:28
aidan-shackso is this just like a chat room?04:29
LuckyManyes04:29
aidan-shackIm brand new to linux built my first pc yesterday04:29
aidan-shackthis is hype af04:29
LuckyManbut this one room is for Ubuntu support. You might try writting /j ##chat for a real chat room04:30
aidan-shackohhh i see04:31
LuckyManyou can also see the channels list and choose a channel you like more04:32
jazzyLuckyMan: update: works with different distro04:34
jazzyShame though, I really liked ubuntu's GUI04:35
LuckyManjazzy, what distro?04:56
jazzyLuckyMan pop os05:14
jazzyNot a huge fan though, so I'll try mint05:15
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user_im using termux x11 and termux on my Samsung tablet06:56
user_bruh i dont like gorilla tag just look linux06:57
user_Reject06:59
user_Humanity06:59
user_gorilla tag06:59
Guest12hi07:17
Guest12can i install partkeepr in Ubuntu 20.4.607:18
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alkisgHi, on my 22.04.4 server, if I run `do-release-upgrade`, (a) I see nothing when /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades contains Prompt=lts, and (b) I see 24.04 when it contains Prompt=normal08:01
alkisg...is that normal? Can I go ahead with Prompt=normal, or could it be a mirror issue and I'll end up getting an older version?08:02
alkisgAh I'm not the only one, it appears upgrades have been withdrawn:08:04
alkisghttps://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1f8hhgh/upgrade_to_lts_24041_server_withdrawn/08:04
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sixwheeledbeastyep it seems withdrawn09:01
sixwheeledbeasteven for desktop09:01
tomreynjazzy: looking up the error message could have helped you identify the root cause and understand how it's unrelated to anything but the software you chose to use as well as ubuntu defaults.09:12
tomreynhttps://discourse.appimage.org/t/appimage-doesnt-work-on-wayland-due-to-antialiasing-key-missing/241609:13
tomreynUbuntu defaults to Wayland (whenever possible), because Wayland will most likely replace Xorg sooner or later.09:14
jwhitmoreHello all, I've a question about apt-mirror which is downloading repo files to a local server but ommitting the by-hash directories from most of the Jammy directories. Only jammy-security sub directories has by-hash09:23
tomreynyou might have better luck getting an answer on this when asking on the mirror related mailing lists, and discussing the details.09:27
tomreynjwhitmore: also check the bug reports, though, since they may already discuss this, and might provide workarounds.09:28
jwhitmoretomreyn, thanks a million I'll have a search for mailing lists09:36
tomreynhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mirrors would be my suggestion.09:37
tomreynthough it is really for public mirrors, so make sure you mention private mirror09:37
tomreyni think there is some mirroring related documentation on wiki.ubuntu.com, maybe on community.ubuntu.com, too09:38
JanCthere is also #ubuntu-mirrors10:06
JanCbut same applies as to the list (is for public mirrors mostly)10:06
freakhello,10:45
freakis someone here who can help me with wifi driver ? is not working on linuxmint 2210:46
lotuspsychje!mint | freak10:46
ubottufreak: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/10:46
dan_hi10:54
dan_I've got a dell monitor with a built in usb switch, but my laptop doesn't see the kbd / mouse plugged in there. Not sure how to debug... could it be a usb driver issue?10:55
dan_nothing shows in dmesg when I plug / unplug the monitor. its usbc dport (which seems to be working fine)10:57
tomreyndoes it work with any other OS?10:59
tomreyn(it's more likely to be a hardware issue at this point)11:00
miguel2013hello friends11:19
miguel2013i have a problem with my instalation11:19
miguel2013I fixed all packages by reinstalling the corrupted 2 apt was saying, but i still can't load X or go into desktop mode, I even manuly reinstalled a bunch of packets i thought were still bad from the apt cache folder11:20
miguel2013I want to know which packages are still corrupt. I even reinstalled xfce411:20
miguel2013just by apt install xfce411:21
tomreyn<tomreyn> miguel2013: i'm afraid there is no way to solve hardware issues in software. if your sd card is broken, your only option is to reinstall ubuntu to different, working storage media11:21
miguel2013that's the memtest card i am not troble shooting that11:22
miguel2013my fsck says card is clean11:22
miguel2013the io error is a usb stick11:22
miguel2013I am troubleshooting debian installed on a microsd11:23
tomreyni'm not sure i can foolow. this is #ubuntu.11:23
miguel2013you were replaying to a io error on a usb stick that has only memtest11:24
tomreynso, are you seeking support with ubuntu, debian, something else? if ubuntu, which ubuntu version?11:25
tomreynalso, if ubuntu, can you show some of the apt output discussed above, on a pastebin?11:26
miguel2013is debian11:27
miguel2013but I'm baned from debian11:27
tomreynthat's not a good reason to ask here.11:27
miguel2013don't remember why it was like 1 year ago i said something11:27
miguel2013okey then I wil look elsewher11:27
BluesKajHi all11:42
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miguel2013the stuff i wanna do appears more advanced then using automatic tools12:29
miguel2013debsums12:29
miguel2013is more manual and too bad i can't read scripts12:30
ravagewhat is your Ubuntu support question?12:31
mgedmin`man debsums` contains an example of how to reinstall all packages with changed files12:31
mgedminapt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg -S $(debsums -c) | cut -d : -f 1 | sort -u)12:31
mgedminbut if debsums -c only shows a handful of files, I'd just list them explicitly12:31
miguel2013mgedmin: using dpkg -i?12:32
miguel2013or using apt --reinstall install12:33
ravagemiguel2013: which version of Ubuntu?12:33
mgedminI just pasted the command itself, since it's a one-liner12:33
miguel2013ravage: im on debian 12.612:33
mgedmindpkg doesn't know how to download the .deb from the archives, so it uses apt-get12:33
ravageWe only support Ubuntu here12:33
miguel2013je12:36
theYACReaderGuyHi I have a problem with glxinfo | grep "renderer string" It show llvmpipe13:04
theYACReaderGuyIt should show my gpu (gtx950) I did download the drivers for the card13:04
theYACReaderGuycan anyone help me13:04
lotuspsychjetheYACReaderGuy: pastebin, sudo lshw -C video , please13:06
theYACReaderGuyhttps://pastebin.com/FZfV7n2T13:07
lotuspsychjetheYACReaderGuy: your gtx driver looks loaded, where did you download the drivers from?13:08
tomreyn"bochs" points to virtualization13:08
theYACReaderGuylotuspsychje: im on Ubuntu 24.04 and downloaded it from "Software & Updates"13:09
leftyfbtheYACReaderGuy: is this a VM?13:10
theYACReaderGuytomreyn: im running it form proxmox but I do have the card installed13:11
theYACReaderGuyleftyfb: yes on proxmox13:11
leftyfbtheYACReaderGuy: VM's by default have virtualized hardware. They don't (by default) use the native hardware13:11
theYACReaderGuyso there is no solution ?13:12
leftyfbtheYACReaderGuy: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/PCI_Passthrough13:13
leftyfbtheYACReaderGuy: I would suggest joining ##proxmox for further support with proxmox13:14
lotuspsychjetheYACReaderGuy: explaining your purpose, or whats the VM gonna be doing might also be helpful to the volunteers13:14
theYACReaderGuyleftyfb: I did the Passthrough the os recognized I have a rtx950 when I did download the drivers13:14
theYACReaderGuylotuspsychje: a media server13:14
marci_hi14:04
marci_someone?14:05
marci_hi14:05
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BardonI asked yesterday how to get a nice list of installed app, so a new user can uninstall applications. I looked it up and there doesn't seem to be one by default as the app center doesn't have such feature (https://github.com/ubuntu/app-center/issues/1641). The solution is to install gnome-software and use that.14:32
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 1641 in ubuntu/app-center "Show installed Deb apps on the 'Manage' page" [Open]14:32
BardonI don't understand why such a list isn't available by default14:32
lotuspsychjefeel free to create a wishlist bug, or affect to one Bardon14:33
Bardonlotuspsychje: What does "affect to one" mean?14:34
lotuspsychjeBardon: if you find a bug you're affected to or like a wishlist, you can mark it as affected on launchpad in the left upper corner14:35
lotuspsychjemaybe your idea already exists, hence why14:35
Bardonah ok as in: "this bug affects me too"14:35
lotuspsychjeBardon: indeed, take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/14:36
johnfgHi folks!15:09
lotuspsychjewelcome johnfg15:12
johnfgI'm getting ready to do the upgrade from 22.04 desktop to 24.04 desktop today.  I've looked at the upgrade notes, but just wondered if anyone has any special warnings?15:16
lotuspsychjejohnfg: well there's a lot of launchpad bugs going on currently around the lts upgrades, make sure you make a backup15:17
lotuspsychjejohnfg: take a look at; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=015:19
tomreynbug 2078895 may be the most relevant one15:21
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2078895 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04.1 not offered anymore" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207889515:21
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johnfgThanks guys!  Helps a lot!16:00
andreas808Hi folks! Just a Ubuntu newbie question...I want to install non-LTS Ubuntu Server, but the only version available is Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS. How should I do so that the upgrade process understand that I want a non-LTS upgrade process instead of the LTS one?16:34
tomreynandreas808: by "the only version available is Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS" you're referring to installation images the hosting providers' offers?16:36
tomreynto your main question, edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal16:37
ravagekeep in mind the much shorter support time of non-LTS releases16:39
sixwheeledbeastYou won't have any issue upgrading to 24.10 down the line if you install 24.04LTS now. I'd generally use LTS only for server myself tho.16:45
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andreas808tomreyn: Ah, no, I mean that Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS is the newest version (not the only one, but I want to install the newest Ubuntu version) according to https://ubuntu.com/download/server, but I don't want an LTS-version, just a non-LTS-version (rebooting twice a year feels like a good balance between stability and "newest-ability").17:30
andreas808ravage: Shorter support time for me is no problem, because I just want to use it for my private server.17:31
pragmaticenigmaandreas808: 24.04.1 is the latest, it happens to be an LTS release, but you can change which upgrade channel you wish to use post install.17:31
andreas808pragmaticenigma: OK. I'll try and see how it goes.17:32
pragmaticenigmaandreas808: I need a minute to verify, but there should be a tool in the Desktop install called Software & Updates. In there you will see a tab called updates, and within that panel will be an option for "Notify me of new Ubuntu Version:" You can change it from Long-term support, to "Any new version"17:35
andreas808pragmaticenigma: Ah, OK. Though, I want to install the server version instead of the desktop version, and set the time on my alarm clock for the last day in April and October...17:37
pragmaticenigmaandreas808: you can make the change in  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades17:38
andreas808pragmaticenigma: Or, is it possible to get an autogenereated mail from Canonical whne a new relase has come out?17:38
andreas808pragmaticenigma: OK, I'll try.17:38
tomreynyou can subscribe to the release announcement mailing list17:39
pragmaticenigmaandreas808: there usually is a MOTD enabled that will display updates and upgrade status when they become available17:39
pragmaticenigmaduring login17:39
pradip-dhunganahi17:40
tomreynandreas808: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce - archives: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/17:40
tomreynhi pradip-dhungana17:40
pradip-dhunganacan anyone tell me what is this17:41
lotuspsychje!support | pradip-dhungana17:41
ubottupradip-dhungana: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:41
andreas808tomreyn: I'll check it out. Thx!17:41
andreas808pragmaticenigma: OK, though, I use ~/.hushlogin to det rid of the MOTD. :)17:42
pradip-dhunganai am new in ubuntu. What is the purpose of Hexchat17:42
tomreyn!info hexchat17:42
ubottuhexchat (2.16.2-1build2, noble): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Built by hexchat. Size 349 kB / 1,001 kB17:42
pradip-dhunganaso if i have any problem i can mention it here17:43
tomreynit is an application which speaks the IRC protocol, like a web browser speaks the HTTP protocol.17:43
tomreynyou can ask questions about ubuntu here17:43
tomreynand some volunteers will likely try to help. bring some patience along, though17:44
pragmaticenigmaandreas808: now you have a reason to consider not doing that, and instead disabling the unwanted modules directly. (the message will also display for `apt update` runs I think too)17:44
pradip-dhunganagreat17:44
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andreas808pragmaticenigma: Hmm, how do you mean "disabling the unwanted modules directly"?17:55
pragmaticenigmaandreas808: you can remove the execute flag from the modules found in /etc/update-motd.d/ directly.17:57
andreas808pragmaticenigma: I see. I'll try!17:58
pragmaticenigmaany of the Ubuntu provided scripts will have a header within them to tell you what it does, if the name of the script is not descriptive enough17:59
pragmaticenigmaandreas808: the reason I don't suppres them with a .hushlogin, is because I do like to know if there is a pending reboot I forgot about, or when there are updates available.18:00
hid3Greeting everyone. I'm running jammy / 22.04 LTS. I'd like to upgrade to 24.04 LTS, howeever, when I ran 'do-release-upgrade' on several machines, it didn't work - message says "There is no development version of an LTS available.". What am I doing wrong?18:03
lotuspsychjehid3: it might be wise to wait a bit longer still, due to some bugs still occuring18:04
hid3lotuspsychje: do upgrades have been closed by Ubuntu, right? Cause one of my friends says he has updated a few days back18:06
hid3do->so :)18:06
lotuspsychjehid3: saw this one earlier: <tomreyn> bug 2078895 may be the most relevant one18:07
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2078895 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04.1 not offered anymore" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207889518:07
hid3roger, I see. Seems it affects me too. Thanks18:09
lotuspsychjenp18:09
pragmaticenigmawould be nice if there was a notice from the mailing lists or similar to confirm that the release was retracted. The bug ticket makes no references to an official withdrawing of the upgrade18:10
lotuspsychjepragmaticenigma: these days a lot of 'official' messages popup on discourse18:11
tomreynyes, *some*, *any* form of communication would be nice to have.18:11
muzamilHey18:11
tomreyni looked through mailing lists, ubuntu blog, discourse, bug tracker. found nothing.18:11
muzamilAnyone their18:11
tomreynhi muzamil18:12
tomreyndo you have an ubuntu support question?18:12
muzamilHi tomreyn,18:12
lotuspsychjethere's a sort of related thread on, https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ask-ubuntu-is-flooded-with-failed-22-04-24-04-upgrade-issues/47701/1018:12
muzamilNot really just installed ubuntu on a wsl windows so I was just trying this out18:12
muzamilSorry, I didn't know that this was some what support kinda thing btw you guys are doing an amazing job as a community18:13
tomreynlotuspsychje: i notied this thread. i was referring to any official statement.18:13
lotuspsychjeok18:13
lotuspsychjedidnt dound one neither18:13
lotuspsychje*found18:13
tomreynthanks for pointing it out, though18:14
tomreynmuzamil: great, have a good start then. :)18:15
am11hey guys is there a live bootable image available for musebook (spacemit x60 CPU)? these are all specialized builds: https://ubuntu.com/download/risc-v not sure if i can try out one of these.18:17
am11(alpine doesn't have bootable riscv64 build either, under netboot.. https://alpinelinux.org/downloads/ so i'm looking for "something else" than what came preinstalled bianbu OS, debian derivate but with older kernel 6.1.15..)18:19
pragmaticenigmaam11: my understanding is many of these boards require the vendors to supply kernel patches for their hardware to be supported. Similar to ARM, you can't use an image that isn't designed for your particular CPU.18:23
am11ah, i tried registring an account on gitee to access https://gitee.com/bianbu-linux/, but it requires some wechat/phone# registration.. maybe there is a way to check if they have or in process of upstreaming patches?18:26
pragmaticenigmaam11: no idea, everything beyond the company's product page is a language I do not know18:28
pragmaticenigmayou'd have to contact the vendor, or the seller of the machine for any help. not much that I think can be done here18:29
am11pragmaticenigma: that gitee link is taken from thier official website, but registration is not allowed, at least not from finland and prehaps anywhere outside people's republic.. :/18:31
am11but that bianbu thing is working, i have ubuntu 24.10 repo configured with apt, and downloaded liblldb-18-dev among other packages, works ok'ish. DE is wayland WM is mutter18:32
am11only thing which nags me is older kernel :/18:32
pragmaticenigmaThese are development boards, I would not be using them as my daily machine.18:35
am11it's a laptop lol, i spent like 400e then next day fedex sent me another 120e invoice VAT.. so yeah while i can rock this shiny toy and use browser and fancy terminal on it, not my daily driver more like a development machine.. wanted to test some ongoing ports.18:38
slingamni tried do-release-upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 and boot is frozen at "EFI stub: Loaded initrd from LINUX_EFI_INITRD_MEDIA_GUID device path"18:53
Bashing-omslingamn: Dual booting Windows ? See: https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/03/ubuntu_24041/ .18:55
slingamnno other OS18:55
slingamngrub seems to work, is there anything i can add to get more debugging information?18:56
Bashing-omslingamn: Not familiar with that error - however, can you boot an older kernel from Grub's boot menu ?18:58
pragmaticenigmathe issue is probably from why 24.04 upgrade was removed18:58
slingamni tried booting the 5.15 kernel, both normally and in recovery mode18:58
slingamngets stuck in the same place18:58
Bashing-omslingamn: Ouch - await here for others to provide better guidance .:18:59
slingamn<318:59
slingamnit's not a big deal for me, this is a toy computer with no real data18:59
pragmaticenigmaopportunity to start a fresh install :)19:00
slingamnmaybe :-)19:00
Bashing-omslingamn: All though would like to be informed of the reason and solution. We are all in this together :D19:00
slingamnyeah i can give it a few days before i try to reinstall19:01
pragmaticenigmaBashing-om: possible if Ubuntu devs would issue a statement why the upgrade was removed just days after its release19:01
Square2Oh, found it: https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts19:01
Bashing-ompragmaticenigma: Yeah - I have seen nothing per se on the mailing lists :(19:03
SquareI just posted an url here from another computer. Could someone just repeat that19:03
slingamnhttps://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts19:03
Squareslingamn, thanks19:03
pragmaticenigmaBashing-om: closest thing we have is this thread: https://launchpad.net/bugs/207889519:04
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2078895 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04.1 not offered anymore" [Undecided, Confirmed]19:04
slingamnthat's what i get for using --proposed :-D19:05
Squarewhat bug is causing the delay?19:05
pragmaticenigmaSquare: no one knows at the moment, there hasn't been anything from official channels about what is going on19:07
SquareOh, intriguing19:08
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slingamni tried booting the 24.04.1 desktop image from USB on this hardware and that gets stuck as well, albeit not with the same message19:08
SquareIt doesn't feel very OSS to keep quiet about critical bugs. Especially when a number of people managed to upgrade19:14
pragmaticenigmaThere was clearly enough of a concern to withdraw the upgrade. This isn't the first time something like this has happened. I'm not sure what you're expecting Square, what are they supposed to post? They're probably still trying to figure out what the issue even is.19:16
Squarepragmaticenigma, Transparency. "We've seen issue X reported, no further information as we just don't know atm".19:18
SquareHushing is for capitalists.19:19
SquareUnless it's a security breach, in which case they could omit the issue19:20
Bashing-ompragmaticenigma: slingamn: Found this: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ask-ubuntu-is-flooded-with-failed-22-04-24-04-upgrade-issues/47701/12 - one like;y cause.19:21
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saturn_um19:47
saturn_so19:47
saturn_what i need to do19:47
saturn_what is even happening here19:47
enigma9o7You are in the ubuntu support channel on irc.  You're supposed to ask any support questions you have, or if none, idle until perhaps you can help someone else.19:48
zmeflol19:49
saturn_ah, alright19:49
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glasscaptdammit20:29
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crapoidhey20:53
crapoidyo20:54
bpromptHey, Yo`, wassup dawg?20:55
crapoidnot mutch, u?20:55
bpromptsame20:56
bpromptcrapoid: feel free to join us at #ubuntu-offtopic :)20:56
crapoidi'm new here, what is the first thing i should do?20:56
bpromptcrapoid: well, first read the channel topic, atop on your irc client, this channel is for OS support :)20:57
bpromptthat way you can stay topical20:57
enigma9o7I'd suggest just idle and watch, unless you have an issue affecting you right now.20:58
crapoidnope, and cool20:58
tomreynwhen you decide to become a regular here, you'll want to...20:58
tomreyn!register20:58
ubottuFor information on registering your IRC nick, see https://libera.chat/guides/registration - For any further help, ask in #libera20:58
crapoidsweet20:58
bpromptcrapoid: bear in mind that your irc client can open as many channels as you please, so you can be in many channels at once, and check all discussions at once, as I said, feel free to join us at #ubuntu-offtopic20:59
crapoidjust started out with Linux so i'm pretty green20:59
crapoidty21:00
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crapoidi did it :)21:01
tomreynhttps://help.ubuntu.com/ if you'd like to browse some documentation21:02
crapoidsweet21:02
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EmilHey21:39
EmilWhere can I see when a packet was updated to include some file?21:39
EmilI originally installed a package in June but now on Tuesday there's a new examples directory in the usr share docs21:40
EmilAnd I'd like to know what created it and on what invocation21:40
enigma9o7well you could look at the changelog perhaps21:43
enigma9o7apt changelog packagename21:43
NDPTAL85I think this is important enough for everyone to see. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250036721:47
Bashing-om+! ^ t=2500367 .21:49
RYDeNHi, Ive a question21:58
Guest16why is a ununtu install like 20 gb + ?21:58
Guest16ubuntu*21:58
bprompt!ask | RYDeN21:58
ubottuRYDeN: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:58
RYDeNI registered a channel in this server21:58
Guest16i tried to update to new os but it was absolute trash and i was getting attacked from every angle with malware so i downgraded again21:58
enigma9o7Ther eis a tool called disk usage analyzer, that may be helpful Guest16.21:58
RYDeNI add chanserv to it21:59
RYDeNbut how can i do in order to automatically get OP when entering to mi channel?21:59
RYDeNthanks!21:59
Guest16thanks enigma21:59
enigma9o7This is for ubuntu support, not libera/chanserv support.... so you may not get a good answer here.21:59
bpromptenigma9o7: 20gbs is about right btw21:59
Guest16u mean me22:00
enigma9o7It may be, but if they wanna see why it's that much, that tool is a useful way to see what's taking space.22:00
tomreynRYDeN: try asking in #libera22:00
Guest16never buy a refurbished lapto22:00
enigma9o7Yes Guest16, you asked why its 20GB.22:00
RYDeNthanks tomeryn22:01
RYDeNill ask there22:01
bpromptRYDeN: hmmm there's a #libera channel, which deals with all channel issues with nickserv or memoserv and others, however usually you get ops automatically I think if the channel doesn't exist, you can always set +o to yourself on entering, I think most IRC clients can automate that22:01
enigma9o7Refurbished usually just means cleaned and checked to make sure everything appears to be working, so nothing wrong with buying a refurbished laptop Guest16.22:01
enigma9o7But certainly cheaper to just buy used and clean/check it yourself.22:02
Guest16well when yor keyboard breaks its quite annoying/ random keys firing and ones not working22:02
RYDeNthanks bpromt22:02
enigma9o7With refurb, you also tend to get 30 or 90 day warranty too, so good idea to double check everything when you get it, like every single key is a good example.  But this channel is for ubuntu support, not used laptop purchasing advice.22:03
bpromptGuest16: nothing wrong with refurbished laptops, mind you some are label "refurbished" because they have been upgraded from say a 128Gbs SSD to a 256Gbs SSD, and such, however, you can get a lemon anywhere if not careful on checkikng the specs22:03
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Guest16can someone do something abot the latest ubuntu os jesus h mother of moses22:07
enigma9o7i think you got your koran mixed up, jesus was not the mother of moses.22:07
Guest16i think they using flash to develop ubuntu now thats what it feels like22:08
bpromptGuest16: I run kubuntu 24.04.1, runs smooth here22:08
zamanwhat happened to the latest ubuntu?22:08
bpromptzaman: dunno, doesn't cook breakfast I guess22:09
enigma9o7Yeah is there a question?  Certainly many developers are indeed using flash; spinning disks these days do seem quite slow, and if you have a system relying on them you maybe want to consider some of the lighter ubuntu flavors (lubuntu/xubuntu) or perhaps a light distro (bodhi/antix).22:10
enigma9o7zaman: I  believe you're likely referring to the upgrade form previous LTS being pulled; just be patient it'll eventually come back and be more reliable when it does.22:11
zaman@bprompt lol22:11
bpromptyeap, agree with enigma9o7, the issue may not with the OS, so much as mismatching the older hardware with a version that requires more needed overhead22:11
Guest16i got so nostalgic running ubuntu 8 in a vm22:12
bpromptGuest16: breaking news, we're in 2024  /me ducks22:13
zamanGuest16: i miss the woobling windows too.22:13
Guest16i miss everything working perfectly22:14
bpromptahemm, btw there's a #ubuntu-offtopic channel, and you're welcome to join us :), for any nostalgic sentiments22:15
Guest16what is the reason people dont just stick with one version for like 50 years?22:16
Guest16choose the best ubuntu version over the last 20 years and suppt it for 50 years22:16
bpromptGuest16: "best" is always relative, what you think is great, someone else thinks is garbage, you can join us at #ubuntu-offtopic , since this is a support channel only22:18
Guest16ok22:19
enigma9o7Wobbly windows are available via a shell extension, search 'compiz' in extension manager.  But you left.22:21
nshirelaptopI've got the ubuntu app store open and it's trying to update the snap store. however it's saying that it can't update because it's being used by another process (blueman-applet) with PID 2611. I killalled the process but I am getting the same error, with the same PID listed.22:50
Paddy_NICan I have both the Firefox snap and deb package installed at side-by-side?22:51
nshirelaptophave not tried it but I believe so22:52
nshirelaptopsince snaps are sandboxed fairly well22:52
Paddy_NIWithout wanting to apply "sudo"-crem to my ass?22:52
Paddy_NIOn account of the pain22:52
Guest16so i remembered i do need help with something, i just tried to wipe my harddrive with a fresh install, but always my bios has a locked version of ubuntu which i cannot acce.ss or even enter things into? whats going on?22:52
nshirelaptopwith that said I have removed the snap version completely and replaced it with the deb version22:52
Paddy_NInshirelaptop: I actually did quite well this time with just the snap.22:52
Guest16the other ubuntu instal has the same hash next to it as my usable one, but it has a capital or non capital U22:53
Paddy_NIThere are however a few things that absolutely do not work with the snap22:53
Guest16and when i run it the caps lock is automaticaly hit and i cant use my keybard22:53
Paddy_NIWithout monumental butt-ache and the aforementioned "sudo-crem"22:53
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tomreynGuest16: can you show a screenshot on e.g. imgur.com?22:57
tomreyndo you have multiple diskson this computer?22:58
Guest16only one im aware of22:58
Guest16shold i restart pc and take a pic and upload for yo?22:58
Guest16i cant screenshot the bios afaik22:59
tomreynyes, that's what i meant to suggest22:59
tomreynGuest but wait, let's try something else first22:59
tomreynGuest16: run this, which would post info on your efi boot targets to termbin.com (will get deleted after a month):  sudo efibootmgr --verbose | nc termbin.com 999923:01
Guest16that spooks me23:02
tomreynjust run    sudo efibootmgr --verbose    first then, this will print it on your terminal23:02
Guest16https://paste.ofcode.org/uyWWGVTm4zQUEP8pvKHrGS23:03
tomreynhmm, so i *think* both of those are fine, though I'm not sure why one is uppercase and the other is lowercase23:04
Guest16well one of them disabled the keyboard when i try to run it23:05
Guest16disables23:05
tomreynthe shimx64.efi is the one to use for secureboot, but there is limited use to secureboot23:06
Guest16and i only wanted one ubuntu install23:06
Guest16yeh i think this is cause i disabled secure boot23:06
tomreynit's just one ubuntu install - if you look at the gibberish behind HD, you'll notice its the same for both ubuntu records23:06
Guest16i think i will enable it again23:06
tomreynand this gibberish points to the partition ubuntu is installed on23:07
Guest16what kind of hash is that?23:07
enigma9o7the good stuff23:08
tomreynit's a partition UUID, a unique identifier pointing to a specific partition23:09
tomreynyour efi system partition (ESP) specifically23:09
tomreynthat's where those files are located23:10
Guest16ok23:10
Guest16well i will just go back to secure boot and hoep for the best ta da23:10
tomreynit basically tells the uefi: on all the disks installed, look for this very partition and read the given file on it23:11
tomreynin my experience, secureboot usually makes things worse (in terms of serviceability) rather than better (it is meant to increase security, but it hardly does)23:12
tomreynoh, they're gone23:13

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