[04:09] any plan when to enable this? (re @RikMills: we can enable again with a higher version in the ppa I guess) [05:13] will get to it [05:39] fyi, people testing in a VM might nit this https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/11840 [05:39] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Issue 11840 in mesa/mesa "Semitransparency effect of Plasma panel doesn't work with Mesa 24.2 when using llvmpipe on x11" [Opened] [05:41] fyi, people testing in a VM might get this https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/11840 [05:41] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Issue 11840 in mesa/mesa "Semitransparency effect of Plasma panel doesn't work with Mesa 24.2 when using llvmpipe on x11" [Opened] [05:44] I think , I face this before with the latest nvidia n the work around works (re @RikMills: fyi, people testing in a VM might get this https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/11840) [05:44] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Issue 11840 in mesa/mesa "Semitransparency effect of Plasma panel doesn't work with Mesa 24.2 when using llvmpipe on x11" [Opened] [05:44] what workapround? [05:44] Forwarded from myfenris: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/11723 [05:44] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Issue 11723 in mesa/mesa "Error 71 (Protocol error) dispatching to Wayland display." [Opened] [05:44] Owh it's different onr [05:44] Owh it's different one, my bad [05:45] np. actually switching to wayland seems to fix the issue I posted. only happens on X11 [08:03] Owh (re @RikMills: np. actually switching to wayland seems to fix the issue I posted. only happens on X11) [08:04] I experienced degrading on display for external screen [08:05] Gnome no issue, but only on plasma [10:29] think I might know how to fix the kickoff icon. will experiment in the next few days to see [11:46] @RikMills do you know how to default to Wayland? It was a promise we made. [11:48] I know of 2 ways. One is to remove this patch in sddm: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qt-code/+git/sddm/tree/debian/patches/revert_prefer-wayland-sessions-over-X11.patch (re @sgmoore: @RikMills do you know how to default to Wayland? It was a promise we made.) [11:48] Ah! [11:49] but that would affect lubuntu and studio who also use sddm [11:49] Oh :/ [11:50] another way may be to populate sddms state.conf file that lives somewhere in /var/ with info saying the last used session was wayland [11:51] which sddm uses to select the next default session [11:51] there may be other ways I am not aware of at the moment [11:51] That will have to be the way. In kubuntu-settings package. [11:52] yes [11:52] Ok, I will sort that one out if you can do kicker :) [11:55] probably best to write the file in a postinst script so that we can have logic to only set it if the file doesn't alreay exist. we don't want to override users choice each time kubuntu-settings gets updated [11:55] That makes sense [12:02] Hi all [20:36] Eickmeyer: is studio ok with wayland by default? [20:45] @sgmoore appears lubuntu don't have a wayland session for sddm, so is studio are ok with it, maybe we could remove that sddm patch [20:46] @sgmoore appears lubuntu don't have a wayland session for sddm, so if studio are ok with it, maybe we could remove that sddm patch [20:58] RikMills: I have no issues with it; I think this is the release to finally pull the trigger. RE: Lubuntu, I know Simon was wanting to pull the trigger on going Wayland by default, but I don't know what happened there. [21:01] Eickmeyer: also posted in lubuntu-dev matrix, but one step would be renoving https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qt-code/+git/sddm/tree/debian/patches/revert_prefer-wayland-sessions-over-X11.patch [21:02] I though lubuntu had a wayland session in sddm, but seems not [21:05] RikMills: They need to come up with their own solution. I don't like the idea of LXQt holding us back. [21:07] RikMills: See Matrix lubuntu-dev. Whether or not SDDM runs under X11 or Wayland doesn't affect LXQt one iota. [21:09] Eickmeyer: yeah, I think we got wires crossed slightly [21:09] this should not hurt lubuntu [21:10] Right. [21:12] ok, so we revert that patch and see what happens. I am not sure if that will switch the live ISO session as well, but we can see about that [21:13] may have to look at kubuntu-installer-prompt to see what kind of session that launches [21:14] if it has that role at all. I was AWOL when that was made, so not sure [21:15] I have a lot of work to do because our SDDM theme is kinda whacked, but I'm OoO until Tuesday as I'm across the country for a wedding I filmed yesterday. [21:48] Excellent.