[12:29] <Teridon> tomreyn: ty for answering.  The vendor does have a newer driver, but it needs to pass an internal validation before I can start using it.  Until then, I'm stuck with the older driver :-( 
[12:29] <Teridon> (and therefore the older kernel)
[12:44] <tomreyn> Teridon: if you have any lerverage there, it would be good to tell them they are very late, and need to remain closer to kernel development if their linux drivers are to be useful.
[12:45] <tomreyn> (or you'll just run into the same situation again soon)
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[17:43] <kenyon> or mainline the driver, or at least open source it so it could be compiled against any kernel
[18:09] <JanC> well, "open sourced" doesn't always mean it will be kept up-to-date
[18:11] <JanC> apparently some vendor drivers are so horrible that it's hard to find people people willing to maintain them  :)
[18:22] <kenyon> of course, but there's usually a better chance with open source
[18:22] <kenyon> I just avoid hardware without mainline support. nvidia graphics cards get removed from any machine I have to work on, for example
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