| JanC | actually, you have to explicitly enable newer features on a ZFS filesystem, so temporarily using a newer ZFS version should not affect an existing file system AFAIK | 00:03 |
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| BarnabasDK | didn't know that - but it sounds like a good thing - say you want to boot af a stick with a newer os and attach your storage | 00:06 |
| JanC | see zpool-upgrade(8) for the command to upgrade a pool | 00:07 |
| Piraty | i just upgraded 22.04 -> 24.04 . it exploded when errors were raised for packages requiring python>=3.11 , but the python3 package was not yet upgraded (still at 3.10) , this made the release-upgrade too bail out and now it's slightly borked | 00:23 |
| Bashing-om | !info python3 noble | 00:25 |
| ubottu | python3 (3.12.3-0ubuntu2, noble): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Built by python3-defaults. Size 23 kB / 81 kB | 00:25 |
| Piraty | it apears to me that it's supposed to have systemd-resolved set up but the package seems msising | 00:25 |
| Piraty | i suspect more stuff borked, so how to go about this now? (properly) | 00:26 |
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| Bashing-om | Piraty: My way forward - ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg reconfigure -a ' . | 00:31 |
| Piraty | `dpkg configure` ? | 00:35 |
| Piraty | nothing yet. | 00:36 |
| Piraty | those commands have exit just fine, nothing to do. | 00:37 |
| Piraty | interesting, `apt --fix-borked install kubuntu-desktop` *did* do some stuff | 00:37 |
| Bashing-om | Piraty: Can not hurt to run ' sudo dpkg --configure -a ' ; sudo dpkg -C ' // -C for added assuranaces. | 00:39 |
| Piraty | looks fine too | 01:10 |
| Bashing-om | Piraty: As such then - I would not expect a problem. | 01:18 |
| enigma9o7 | wow, that's interesting that flag works, I'm gunna have to try that, must be an easter egg in new version of apt | 02:29 |
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| blinky | sometimes when I boot my laptop, it won't detect any wifi, and the airplane mode is automatically on. What could be the problem? | 03:01 |
| mblinky | I have been facing this issue for quite some time now | 03:03 |
| matsaman | blinky: make/model? | 03:04 |
| enigma9o7 | I didn't even know there was an airplane mode, TIL. | 03:05 |
| mblinky | HP laptop | 03:05 |
| mblinky | 2021, I'm not sure | 03:05 |
| mblinky | 6.8.0-41-generic | 03:05 |
| matsaman | what model hp laptop? | 03:06 |
| mblinky | is there a command to find that out? | 03:06 |
| matsaman | not one that's simpler than looking on the bottom/side/beneath-screen part of the laptop | 03:06 |
| enigma9o7 | Lots of them. I like inxi. | 03:06 |
| enigma9o7 | Hmmm I think it'd be easier to type inxi -F than look on the bottom/side, but beneath the screen is easier. | 03:07 |
| mblinky | HP HP Laptop 15s-du3xxx | 03:08 |
| enigma9o7 | How does one enable airplane mode? I've searched settings, can't find anything? | 03:08 |
| mblinky | I'm using Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS | 03:09 |
| mblinky | and there is an airplane mode in system tray | 03:09 |
| mblinky | brb | 03:11 |
| enigma9o7 | Don't suppose you could share a screenshot? I'm curious to see cuz I don't seem to have it. I realize you're trying to troubleshoot so I'm probably annoying, feel free to ignore me. I assume enabling it just disables wifi and bluetooth, cuz PC doesn't have any other radios afaik... | 03:13 |
| mblinky | enigma9o7, https://imgur.com/a/Ntfk2gN | 03:28 |
| mblinky | it's in the bottom right corner, are you guys able to see it? | 03:29 |
| enigma9o7 | Yeah I see your image, thanks. I guess I need to try 24.04 sometime :) | 03:29 |
| mblinky | enigma9o7, :) | 03:29 |
| mblinky | which version are you on? | 03:30 |
| enigma9o7 | don't laugh, 18.04 | 03:30 |
| enigma9o7 | but i have a debian testing machine with gnome 46, it also doesn't have it. | 03:30 |
| mblinky | I won't. But why haven't you considered updating it? | 03:31 |
| mblinky | it's so easy with Ubuntu! | 03:31 |
| enigma9o7 | It requires more bits. | 03:32 |
| mblinky | I see. No worries. | 03:32 |
| mblinky | How do I solve the issue of wifi not detecting? | 03:32 |
| mblinky | I am tired of facing this issue again and again. | 03:35 |
| mblinky | i think the NIC gets affected in some way when I boot | 03:39 |
| mblinky | I have dual-boot with Windows 11 and ubuntu | 03:40 |
| mblinky | When I boot into Windows 11, the wifi is detected everytime! but not always in ubuntu. | 03:40 |
| mblinky | I have been resolving this issue by shutting down Ubuntu, booting into Windows 11, properly shutting down Windows 11 and then booting into Ubuntu and hoping that luck will support me this time in detecting wifi. :( It's time consuming and exasperating! | 03:42 |
| enigma9o7 | AX210? | 03:42 |
| mblinky | any command in ubuntu that might help me with NIC detection? | 03:42 |
| mblinky | enigma9o7, what is AX210? | 03:43 |
| enigma9o7 | a few commands for troubleshooting, sure. lspci will list pci devices, so you can check the chip number, I was guessing AX210. | 03:43 |
| enigma9o7 | "inxi -N" will list network devices and if there's a driver (if you have inxi installed). | 03:43 |
| enigma9o7 | You can check the journal for any errors, but you'd probably want a keyword to search for cuz journal is full of stuff. But to just open it at the end "journalctl -e" or to open it the beginning of last boot "journalctl -b -1" | 03:44 |
| enigma9o7 | rfkill will tell you if its possibly turned off or disabled | 03:44 |
| enigma9o7 | if you have an on/off switch, obviously make sure its on (rfkill will tell you if its off) | 03:45 |
| mblinky | I'll try those now. | 03:45 |
| mblinky | rfkill looks like the command that might help me next time I face this issue! | 03:55 |
| mblinky | Thank you for the help and support guys! Really appreciate it! | 04:05 |
| mblinky | GTG | 04:05 |
| topcat001 | disable fast boot in windows and bios | 04:23 |
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| nteodosio | Do we have meson documentation packaged? I'd want https://mesonbuild.com/Reference-manual_functions.html off-line. Saving the HTML it is? | 09:29 |
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| martinpe | hola | 11:59 |
| martinpe | que tal.. | 11:59 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:19 |
| dorian | yo does anybody have experience dealing with route-based ipsec using xfrm? | 12:52 |
| lotuspsychje | dorian: ask your question in the channel, so volunteers can think along with you | 12:53 |
| dorian | sure (for the record #strongswan is idle, sooo) | 12:54 |
| dorian | my initial configuration was a home machine and a virtual server, and i had already set up a route-based vpn to cosplay like the vps is on my home network. this is in canada. i recently needed to get around some really silly geoblocking so decided the easiest thing to do was just spin up another vps in the states and use it as an endpoint and route out from it. so did that, copied my first vps's responder | 12:57 |
| dorian | config over, got the tunnel up, but pings don't get through. | 12:57 |
| dorian | so home<-->vps1 works; home<-->vps2 which has virtually the same configuration does not | 12:58 |
| dorian | so on the home machine i have two xfrm devices, ipsec0 (id 42, works) and ipsec1 (id 1337, does not work) | 13:00 |
| dorian | and i have the correct routes bound to those devices | 13:00 |
| dorian | extra weird: i noticed a mistake in my swanctl.conf in the child sa section, such that if i *fix* it, it *breaks* the tunnel that works: rather than if_id_in and if_id_out directives, i had two if_id_in (presumably redundant), but if i change that to what it "should" be, it breaks (destination host unreachable) | 13:04 |
| lotuspsychje | dorian: is this related to ubuntu somehow? sounds more like a networking question? | 13:06 |
| dorian | i mean, all the machines are ubuntu | 13:06 |
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| dorian | but anyway, like i said i asked in #strongswan yesterday but it hasn't budged, and i asked in here if anybody knew about route-based vpns using xfrm devices | 13:07 |
| dorian | and you said just ask the question | 13:07 |
| leftyfb | dorian: I would try asking in #networking | 13:08 |
| dorian | word | 13:09 |
| TomyWork | I installed https://snapcraft.io/code (--classic) and https://snapcraft.io/yq (--devmode). When run from KDE Konsole, yq can access files in my home directory. When run from vscode's integrated terminal, yq cannot access the same files in my home directory, not even when piped into the tool. Why is that? | 13:53 |
| TomyWork | dorian, fwiw, I switched strongswan to using kernel-libipsec. I did that back when I was still on 18.04 because using the default (I think that's xfrm) would corrupt my virtualbox VMs' memory. not sure if that's still an issue on 22.04/24.04, since I didn't wanna deal with that noise while setting up the new os version :) | 14:00 |
| TomyWork | so if whatever you're trying to get to work with doesnt work with xfrm for weird reasons (and i'm talking your-vms-get-their-memory-corrupted-level weird), take the 5 minutes to try that and see if it works better | 14:01 |
| dorian | TomyWork: so i set up a third subnet on dummy0 on vps2 and that works, go figure | 14:17 |
| pycurious | I just installed ubuntu server, and I cant get wired ethernet to work. For wireless I dont have iwconfig installed. Any ideas on how to get wifi to work with the server? (24.04.1LTS) | 14:58 |
| tomreyn | pycurious: don't you want to get ethernet to work first of all? | 15:08 |
| tomreyn | it's what i'd first focus on for a server, then setup wireless, if needed. | 15:08 |
| tomreyn | just because ethernet is usually easier to setup | 15:08 |
| pycurious | I'm trying to reinstall the OS again - hopefully with wired connect. Lets hope it detects it. | 15:09 |
| fryrer | I'm running bottles (wine frontend) from flatpak, it detects my huion drawing tablet, but I get no pressure sensitivity. Would the one from snap happen to have that? | 15:09 |
| ravage | just try it? | 15:10 |
| ravage | i dont know of any snap for bottles though | 15:10 |
| fryrer | It doesn't have to be bottles, just want to know if snap even supports interfacing with a drawing tablet, which should be via libinput. | 15:11 |
| fryrer | I wanted to ask before I spend god knows how long troubleshooting. | 15:11 |
| ravage | you may need to grant permission for that manually | 15:11 |
| pycurious | tomreyn: thanks. It did pickup the ethernet this time | 15:11 |
| ravage | but it is possible | 15:11 |
| tomreyn | pycurious: hmm, it should be deterministic, though. maybe you did something differently this time around? | 15:12 |
| pycurious | @tomreyn Last time the ethernet wire was not connected. I was hoping that once i login, then i can enable ethernet by connecting. | 15:14 |
| tomreyn | Not if it's not configured | 15:14 |
| fryrer | I'll give it a shot, gotta reboot for something else, come back if further questions. Thank you. | 15:15 |
| pycurious | @tomreyn it worked perfectly this time. | 15:18 |
| tomreyn | glad to hear this. | 15:18 |
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| EgonX | Question: Is there anything comparable to iTerm on the Mac for Ubunut/Linux? | 16:11 |
| gordonjcp | EgonX: it would help if you could describe what you are actually looking for | 16:13 |
| gordonjcp | iTerm just looks like a terminal window | 16:14 |
| EgonX | Well, that's a bit hard to describe, and it just might not be a thing. But there are just features and settings in iTerm that would be helpful when I'm on my linux box. The Default Terminal isn't really getting it done for me? And Warp is closer, but it's currently broken, so that's not helpful. | 16:15 |
| gordonjcp | okay | 16:15 |
| ravage | If you can't even describe what you want I don't think anyone can really help you | 16:16 |
| ravage | https://alternative.to/iterm2 | 16:16 |
| EgonX | I keep forgetting about that website | 16:19 |
| EgonX | Thank you, that's a good place to start | 16:23 |
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| derek-shnosh | Just ran apt upgrade and now all of my graphics are corrupt, fonts missing chars, etc.. Ubuntu 24.04, 6.8.0-44-generic. I tried GSK_RENDERER=gl in /etc/environment, tried uninstalling all Nvidia drivers, etc. Here are packages that were updated: https://bpa.st/E4BTO and here is a screenshot showing the issue: https://i.imgur.com/Hml5VVD.png | 17:48 |
| derek-shnosh | Any advice would be appreciated. | 17:48 |
| derek-shnosh | The graphical glitching is evident even on the login screen, and apparent whether I log into a Wayland or X11 session. | 17:49 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: did you add oibaf ppa? | 17:51 |
| derek-shnosh | I've had it added for quite some time, yes. Not a recent addition though. | 17:51 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: i would reverse to the original ubuntu repos as a test first | 17:52 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: you recall wich package you installed on oibaf? | 17:52 |
| derek-shnosh | lotuspsychje: Is that as simple as disabling the repo and then doing apt update/upgrade to get back to "vanilla"? | 17:52 |
| lotuspsychje | !ppa-purge | 17:54 |
| ubottu | To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html | 17:54 |
| derek-shnosh | lotuspsychje: thanks... be back in a bit. | 17:55 |
| lotuspsychje | wb derek-shnosh | 18:03 |
| derek-shnosh | Ty, haven't done anything yet. | 18:03 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: are you on xorg or wayland? | 18:04 |
| derek-shnosh | Wayland, but issue persists on x11 | 18:04 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: could you pastebin: sudo lshw -C video && nvidia-smi , please | 18:04 |
| derek-shnosh | Yes, but bear in mind that I previously said I purged all nvidia drivers but have since readded 560 as that is what I was using before, and removing it didn't resolve the issue. | 18:06 |
| derek-shnosh | https://bpa.st/ZJH2Q | 18:06 |
| derek-shnosh | This is a Lenovo Slim 7 ProX 14ARH7 | 18:06 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: hmm, you got both amd & nvidia graphics | 18:07 |
| derek-shnosh | Correct. | 18:08 |
| lotuspsychje | can we see your ' sudo dmesg ' too please | 18:08 |
| derek-shnosh | That's extensive... anything unsafe, or need to be redacted? | 18:09 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: no, dmesg is safe to share | 18:10 |
| derek-shnosh | https://bpa.st/AQRBW+ | 18:10 |
| derek-shnosh | Woops... https://bpa.st/AQRBW | 18:10 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: can you try disabling secureboot as a test please | 18:11 |
| derek-shnosh | I'm purging oibaf, allow me to reboot and report the result... here is output from that: $ sudo ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers | 18:12 |
| derek-shnosh | Updating packages lists | 18:12 |
| derek-shnosh | W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu/dists/noble/InRelease: Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024) | 18:12 |
| derek-shnosh | W: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/oibaf/graphics-drivers/ubuntu/dists/noble/InRelease: Signature by key 5ABCE68FF4633EA42E219156957D2708A03A4626 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024) | 18:12 |
| derek-shnosh | PPA to be removed: oibaf graphics-drivers | 18:12 |
| derek-shnosh | Package revert list generated: | 18:12 |
| derek-shnosh | Get:14 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/main amd64 libclang-cpp18 amd64 1:18.1.3-1 [13.5 MB] | 18:14 |
| derek-shnosh | Get:15 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/main amd64 libllvm18 amd64 1:18.1.3-1 [27.5 MB] | 18:14 |
| derek-shnosh | Get:16 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/main amd64 libclang1-18 amd64 1:18.1.3-1 [7,815 kB] | 18:14 |
| derek-shnosh | Get:17 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/universe amd64 mesa-va-drivers amd64 24.0.5-1ubuntu1 [4,239 kB] | 18:14 |
| derek-shnosh | Get:18 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/main amd64 mesa-vdpau-drivers amd64 24.0.5-1ubuntu1 [3,896 kB] | 18:14 |
| derek-shnosh | Get:19 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/universe amd64 meson all 1.3.2-1ubuntu1 [604 kB] | 18:14 |
| lotuspsychje | use a !pastebin please derek-shnosh | 18:14 |
| Guest2785 | hello | 18:15 |
| bgoihman50 | hi | 18:15 |
| Guest2785 | hi | 18:15 |
| el_hombre | gew | 18:16 |
| derek-shnosh | lotuspsychje: apologies for the bad paste there, apparently my 5x CTRL+Cs didn't overwrite the large block of text with the bpa.st URL. | 18:18 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: try the secureboot disable first | 18:18 |
| lotuspsychje | that can influence your hardware | 18:18 |
| derek-shnosh | Things are back to normal after purging oibaf. | 18:18 |
| lotuspsychje | are you dualbooting? | 18:19 |
| derek-shnosh | No. | 18:19 |
| derek-shnosh | Not on this laptop. | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: your dmesg reporting several nvidia + amd warnings | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | i would disable secureboot anyways | 18:20 |
| derek-shnosh | Oh? Would you mind elaborating as to why? | 18:21 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: because your dmesg reports several locks due secureboot enabled | 18:24 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: you will see when disabling secureboot, some warnings will dissapear | 18:27 |
| ravage | if your system runs stable now there is no need to disable secure boot | 18:28 |
| derek-shnosh | otuspsychje: gotcha, I'll have to review the locks or what is impacted... unless you have some insight. My stance is that as long as its not hindering functionality I'd prefer to leave it enabled. | 18:28 |
| lotuspsychje | sure | 18:28 |
| derek-shnosh | I'm a network engineer and this is a work laptop with a considerable amount of sensitive data for many clients on it, and I'd prefer to all feasible/relevant steps to keep it secure. | 18:29 |
| leftyfb | secure boot does not secure your data in any way | 18:29 |
| derek-shnosh | While secure boot isn't a "STOP ALL THE THINGS" solution, it does help mitigate malware at the kernel level no? | 18:29 |
| ravage | it secures the boot process. | 18:29 |
| leftyfb | it's a poor attempt from Microsoft to hinder the installation of other OS's | 18:29 |
| ravage | it has flaws | 18:30 |
| ravage | but you boot is harder to tamper with | 18:30 |
| lotuspsychje | derek-shnosh: aka errors like; Lockdown: systemd-logind: hibernation is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7 | 18:30 |
| leftyfb | it's "security" was already broken years ago | 18:30 |
| derek-shnosh | lotuspsychje: thanks.... hibernation and power profiles are not on my radar, so if that's the only impact, I'm alright with it not working. | 18:31 |
| lotuspsychje | like you wish derek-shnosh just keep in mind, if graphics or wifi malfunctions one day, you can try secureboot | 18:32 |
| derek-shnosh | lotuspsychje: understood, thank you! | 18:32 |
| ravage | the Ubuntu security team still recommends enabling it than just disabling it. if it causes trouble it is ok to disable it of course | 18:32 |
| derek-shnosh | RE: secureboot, I'm definitely not going to pretend to understand kernel/firmware level attack surfaces, I'm _aware_ enough that I'll implement any feasible mitigation or _buffers_ I can apply to make those less accessible. | 18:33 |
| tomreyn | derek-shnosh: you might want to apply the latest bios update to patch thirteen security patches | 18:33 |
| ravage | keeping the BIOS up to date is always a good idea | 18:34 |
| tomreyn | https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/ideapad-s-series-netbooks/slim-7-prox-14arh7/82v2/downloads/driver-list/component?name=BIOS%2FUEFI&id=5AC6A815-321D-440E-8833-B07A93E0428C https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/jvcn40ww.txt | 18:34 |
| tomreyn | you're currently at BIOS JVCN35WW 03/09/2023 | 18:34 |
| derek-shnosh | tomreyn: yeah BIOS update is forthcoming, admittedly a bit behind on that. I've dismissed a couple months worth of "system updates" reminders I have set due to workload. | 18:34 |
| derek-shnosh | But its slow this week, so I'm poking around and catching up. | 18:34 |
| tomreyn | it's 5 versions behind, though not all of them may have been released, and there is no release history | 18:35 |
| derek-shnosh | tomreyn: yeah, it seems they only release windows update utilities for this model, so I've been slacking. | 18:38 |
| tomreyn | you can usually do bios updates with a partitioned usb stick by placing the extracted firmware update file on the first partition, on a vfat filesystem. | 18:39 |
| tomreyn | starting it from with the bios | 18:40 |
| derek-shnosh | With an .exe? | 18:41 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: fwupmgr | 18:41 |
| ravage | i had some success in the past with a WinPE live session | 18:41 |
| derek-shnosh | leftyfb: this model not supported. | 18:41 |
| ravage | i think i used https://www.hirensbootcd.org/ | 18:41 |
| derek-shnosh | ravage: thanks, haven't heard of hirens in a long time, seems its been revived. Will look into using that after my upcoming meeting. | 18:45 |
| derek-shnosh | lotuspsychje: thanks for pointing me at oibaf, back on track now! | 18:49 |
| derek-shnosh | Have a good one, all. | 18:49 |
| osse | Long shot, I think I'm going crazy: I upgraded to 24.04 recently. Prior to that I am fairly certain that I had EDITOR, BROWSER, etc. set in my environment. The thing is that I only set those in .zprofile. Can I somehow have modified pam/gdm/whatever in such a way that that .zprofile was sourced and that upgrading reverted it? The funny thing is that I even use zsh-specific syntax in that file (to de-dupe | 18:58 |
| osse | PATH) | 18:58 |
| tomreyn | osse: i don't see how a release upgrade would modify dotfiles in a restricted users' home directory. | 19:14 |
| tomreyn | even in /root, it probably wouldn't | 19:15 |
| tomreyn | /etc, however, is a different matter | 19:15 |
| toy123 | HEllo | 19:20 |
| derek-shnosh | ravage: hirens worked great, thanks! | 19:30 |
| ravage | \o/ | 19:30 |
| XP1500 | cls | 20:22 |
| XP1500 | Sorry. | 20:22 |
| osse | tomreyn: I agree, that would be weird. Luckily I run etckeeper but I can't find anything relevant. I've checked pam, gdm and systemd user units. I don't know what else it could be. | 20:44 |
| osse | Perhaps my terminal emulator switch from launching login shells by default or something, heh | 20:44 |
| matsaman | osse: what's up? | 20:50 |
| osse | matsaman: I'm imagining that prior to upgrading to 24.04 I had set something up to make me able to use .zprofile to set my environment, and that upgrading broke it. | 20:58 |
| matsaman | so at the moment you're in zsh and it's not set up your status quo configuration? | 21:01 |
| sarnold | osse: this is an *ancient* commit, but it might be relevant https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zsh/5.8-2 | 21:05 |
| derek-shnosh | Have another one... I'm running Ubuntu 24.04 and am not seeing an update to 24.04.1 available, even with `sudo do-release-upgrade`. I have Notification set to "For long-term support versions", is this expected? | 21:18 |
| derek-shnosh | I changed it to "For any new version" and it behaves the same. | 21:19 |
| sarnold | derek-shnosh: that's weird :/ I see noble in the file that advertises it to the updater https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts | 21:24 |
| sarnold | derek-shnosh: maybe run do-release-upgrade under strace and see if you can spot an error somewhere? | 21:25 |
| derek-shnosh | sarnold: Apologies, not familiar with that process, how do I do that? | 21:25 |
| sarnold | derek-shnosh: you'd run a command like sudo strace -F -o /tmp/strace do-release-upgrade | 21:26 |
| sarnold | derek-shnosh: that'll dump all the systemcalls and their return values to /tmp/strace | 21:26 |
| sarnold | derek-shnosh: it'll be a *lot* of data, it's kind of hard to know what you're looking for, but if you look for whatever message you're gettting, and then start reading 'up', you might find an error message | 21:27 |
| derek-shnosh | sarnold: this is all I'm getting from the output (not the strace file, I'm searching through that now)... https://bpa.st/YYA4C | 21:28 |
| sarnold | derek-shnosh: oh hah, thanks for the reminder on strace -f vs -F :) | 21:30 |
| derek-shnosh | Too much data for bpa.st, here's a GH gist (raw): https://gist.githubusercontent.com/derek-shnosh/4dc246b6c51aac9b408e2869edcf1fca/raw/85a2d62498e71c2ac1642e9842ac963f0e6a958a/strace_do-release-upgrade.log | 21:30 |
| sarnold | derek-shnosh: hrm. it sure looks like we can see this download the metadata file of the right length .. | 21:34 |
| ravage | Earlier I saw that phased packages block the update | 21:36 |
| ravage | Because it tells you to upgrade all packages first | 21:36 |
| ravage | That was a little strange too | 21:36 |
| derek-shnosh | I saw that it was blocked for a few days, but it was unblocked recently. | 21:37 |
| sarnold | ravage: oww. I kinda get it. but ow. | 21:37 |
| derek-shnosh | I don't think I have anything _phased_. | 21:37 |
| ravage | The upgrader would find the update in this case | 21:38 |
| ravage | But would ask to to all upgrades first | 21:38 |
| ravage | Which is not possible without really forcing them | 21:38 |
| ravage | So it's not your problem here | 21:39 |
| derek-shnosh | Gotcha... yeah, not sure why its not showing me the update... I have a couple 22.04.4 VMs that are prompting me to update. | 21:40 |
| ravage | But you mean 22.04 to 24.04 right? | 21:41 |
| ravage | Because you wrote 24 to 24 in your original text | 21:41 |
| derek-shnosh | Yeah the 22.04.4 VMs are showing the prompt for 24.04.1... my 24.04 laptop is not. | 21:41 |
| ravage | Oh | 21:41 |
| ravage | So you meant that | 21:41 |
| ravage | There is no release upgrade for point releases | 21:41 |
| ravage | You get it with the regular package updates | 21:42 |
| derek-shnosh | Ah, so I *won't* see a prompt, its just a _roll-up_ of sorts for previous LTS releases. | 21:42 |
| ravage | Right | 21:42 |
| sarnold | ohhhhh is this already running 24.04? that'd do it :) | 21:43 |
| derek-shnosh | ... gotcha, to avoid a 24.04 install that would require a bunch of updates... just go to 24.04.1 for the roll-up. | 21:43 |
| derek-shnosh | Ok, then mystery solved (for me). Thanks! | 21:43 |
| ravage | :) | 21:43 |
| sarnold | me too :) | 21:44 |
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| PoZi3uS | french somewere? | 23:57 |
| sarnold | 57 people in #ubuntu-fr -- but it's late enough it might be pretty quiet | 23:58 |
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