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arraybolt3Not sure if we do software suggestions here, but is there any good, simple audio file player for the terminal in Ubuntu? I don't want a music player or anything remotely fancy like that, I want to just be able to `play-file ./whatever.oga` or whatever format of audio I have, and have it just *work* and exit when done. Like if aplay wasn't ALSA-bound and didn't only work on WAV files.00:20
enigma9o7well aplay00:21
enigma9o7Oh, you just said that.00:21
enigma9o7I should read to the end, sorry.00:21
enigma9o7cmus is likely too fancy for you.00:21
rboxarraybolt3: vlc, mpv, mplayer00:23
arraybolt3all of those launch a GUI.00:24
rboxnone of those require a gui00:24
arraybolt3I think I looked into cmus already and it was indeed too fancy.00:24
rboxand mplayer only opens a window when you give it a video file00:25
arraybolt3hmm, mplayer might work, for some reason I thought you meant smplayer but you're right00:25
rboxall 3 of them do it00:26
arraybolt3still a bit of a swiss army knife when all I need are a pair of scissors, but meh. Close enough, I'm happy.00:26
arraybolt3VLC opens a window when I run it on an audio file at least00:26
arraybolt3and I don't want to have to use an extra option just to supress that (yes, I'm being picky)00:26
rboxthen tell it nto to use the gui00:26
rboxlol00:26
arraybolt3:P now I wish mplayer wasn't so verbose XD00:27
* arraybolt3 stops being picky and just accepts that this works00:27
tomreyncvlc would be the non gui one00:29
tomreyn(which is part of the vlc-bin .deb)00:31
johnhello,everone00:53
johnhello,everyone00:54
Bashing-omHello john - You ave a Ubuntu support question ?00:55
Bashing-omhave*00:55
johnhello,elliria00:55
ElliriaHey there.00:56
ebshey01:20
Guest33I’m facing an issue with a client’s Ubuntu VM where there are frequent netscan abuses originating from within the network and targeting external systems. Is there a way to block netscan activities from inside the network to the outside on the Ubuntu client?05:09
punkg33k 05:37
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rindolfHi! I'm trying to populate a fortune-mod PPA using my fedora40 host system and get https://paste.centos.org/view/27585566 "Unknown release release"07:19
Bisham i alone with the opinion that snap is annoying?07:50
rindolfBish: hi, you are not. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/226225-there-are-only-two-kinds-of-languages-the-ones-people07:51
Bishdunno how snap qualifies to be a language07:52
Bishwell, what the ferk do i switch to :D i hate this07:52
toddcsnap is a sudo apt install qt6-qpa-plugins?  No it is a container that works on all linux distros07:53
Bishhuh?07:54
toddc No snap is a container that works on all linux distros07:54
Bishrepeating things doesn't explain what you're trying to say07:54
toddcpackages do not need to be repackaged for each distro and safer running in a continer07:55
toddc!snap07:55
ubottuSnaps are containerised software packages similar to Flatpaks and AppImages. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io07:55
Bishbut i never said i want to repackage anything07:55
Bishi don't want snaps at all and i think it's a terrible choice to force this upon a user07:56
Bashing-omBish: One is under no obligation to use snaps - and snap can be removed - aternatives to snap does exist // Xubuntu does not install any snaps by default :D07:56
toddcBish it is easy to remove snaps07:56
BishBashing-om: what if i want my browser to be installed the usual way?07:56
Bishbecause it's super annoying to have it navigate in it's virtual environment07:56
toddchttps://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/install-firefox-deb-ubuntu-22-04/07:57
Bishwhat if my browser isn't firefox07:58
Bishwhat if i don't want to read howtos on how to install a freaking browser07:58
CosmicDJBish: or you know, just use a linux distro which does not include snaps by default?07:58
Bishyeah, which one, i am actually a gentoo user, but used ubuntu always for servers because of it's convinience07:58
Bishi was hoping someone to tell me "yeah snaps was a bad idea they will be gone in 25"07:59
CosmicDJBish: they will not be gone anytime soon...07:59
Bishsigh07:59
Bishit's ironic the repo is has a "craft" suffix08:00
Bishbecause none will want to know how it works08:00
Bashing-omBish: Chromium as your preference - I use slimjet as an excellent alternative.08:01
BishBashing-om: and you compile that one yourself?08:02
Bashing-omBish: no - PPA support for the .deb.08:04
sixwheeledbeastif this is a server then snaps are mostly GUI packages anyway.08:37
sixwheeledbeastI don't like snaps and don't believe they should be pushed upon us in the way they are. but this conversation is not support and more #ubuntu-offtopic.08:39
gordonjcpI guess I don't really understand enough about snaps to get the antipathy towards them08:40
gordonjcpYet Another Packaging Format is annoying08:40
sixwheeledbeastsome of the packages in ubuntu repos are not .debs they are a transitional package to install a snap. This makes avoiding them awkward especially when they are installed by default.08:42
gordonjcpavoiding what?08:43
gordonjcpavoiding installing them at all, avoiding installing snaps, what?08:43
sixwheeledbeastyes both08:44
gordonjcplike, why are (some) people complaining about snaps?08:44
gordonjcpis it just New Thing Bad And Scary?08:44
sixwheeledbeastbecause they are containerised they duplicate your system libraries, they are often heavier, slower use more ram.08:45
gordonjcpokay so New Thing Bad And Scary08:45
sixwheeledbeastthey have positives and negatives, the anger is they have being forced upon people.08:45
pretocj2Good day, Hope this is the correct channel to report problems installing xymon on Ubuntu24.04 from the default repository.08:48
toddcFYI I am rebuilding many of my servers to snap08:49
rindolfHi! I'm trying to populate a fortune-mod PPA using my fedora40 host system and get an error https://paste.centos.org/view/27585566 "Unknown release release". How can I fix it? I tried duckduckgo, google, reading the source code, reading the man-pages.10:52
echoe 10:55
rindolfechoe: hi10:56
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BluesKajHi all11:56
pretocj2Aloha, today was my first post in this chat, was hoping to get some kind of answer, maybe im in the wrong time zone and need to be a little patient.11:58
Guest33I have multiple Ubuntu VPN servers across various data centers. Occasionally, I receive abuse reports from the data centers stating that port scanning is being conducted from my Ubuntu servers, likely due to infected devices using my VPN. Is there a solution to detect and block port scanning on Ubuntu? I am currently using Suricata IPS, but it12:02
Guest33doesn’t seem to be effective.12:02
Bish"infected devices using my vpn" why can they use your vpn?12:05
unpasleft after 2 minutes of asking XD12:09
unpasNow thats a VPN i wouldnt want to buy time on12:09
rindolfpretocj2: hi. does apt-get give you an error? can you paste-site it?12:13
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pretocj2Hi rindolf - no error. xymon starts up and runs. problem is xymon starts various services which needs to connect to the daemon to process the data collected and that fails.12:17
pretocj2Installing the Ubuntu 22 deb file I found on the ubuntu archive solves that problem, and everything runs like clockwork.12:18
pretocj2Dumb question, can I add a yammy apt sources file to properly install xymon? how will future updates be affected?12:20
pretocj2# apt list -a xymon12:24
pretocj2Listing... Done12:24
pretocj2xymon/noble 4.3.30-2build3 amd6412:24
pretocj2xymon/jammy 4.3.30-1build2 amd6412:24
pretocj2noble = broken, jammy=100%12:24
rindolfpretocj2: on debian, i think one can use "testing",  "stable", "oldstable", etc. i  don't know about ubuntu12:35
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Square2Just curious, what would you say are the top 3 changes in 24.04 compared to 22.04?13:59
lotuspsychje!discuss | Square214:00
ubottuSquare2: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!14:00
Square2lotuspsychje, gotcha14:00
Guest40https://ubuntucommunity.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/d/1/d1d320d5b877f4381179e75c5475124dca6ef812.jpeg15:39
Guest40is it better the first or the second option? i don't know which are the apps that will be installed15:39
Guest40in both cases15:40
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rindolfGuest40: if you're not sure, maybe try the "Extended" first15:44
Guest40rindolf in fact at this step I think I will put the extended selection because maybe among the office apps and the various utilities there are still those of wide use that sooner or later can be useful and I find them already installed also because they have already been selected by those who thought that they can be useful and useful while maybe15:46
Guest40if I then go to choose them I might not choose the same ones or not install some of them. I hope I did well15:46
Guest40rindolf the default installation even if they don't indicate the things included doesn't do anything anyway those are what they are and one sees them when the installation finishes, however for the second option a list of the additional things that will be installed could be made perhaps making them selectable so if one doesn't want something one15:49
Guest40can remove it15:49
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rindolfGuest40: right16:00
tomreynGuest40: it's kind of you to provide feedback. however, on irc this won't get any traction. if you'd like to recommend a change, you should figure out the software this is about and then file a bug against it (and maybe file it wishlist, so it's clear you're not strictly reporting an error but are recomending an improvement).16:00
Guest40https://ubuntucommunity.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/f/ff8b742c5b79efaaed137928080a48b7ad260ba7.jpeg16:01
Guest40at this step, how to choose?16:01
Guest40What to choose? (excuse for my english=16:01
Guest40)16:01
leftyfbGuest40: it really depends on your wants and needs16:02
leftyfbGuest40: if you ask me, keep the checked and just move on16:02
tomreynunless you explicitly prefer not to install proprietary software, you probably just want to keep the default16:03
tomreynespecially if this is your first installation, and you want to have all hardware components you have work well, then enabling both options is a good choice.16:04
tomreyn(it's not guaranteed that everything will work, or work well, but will be more likely then)16:05
Guest40leftyfb i don't know for my case which select or not of those options, anyway i have a NVIDIA graphic card16:05
heckeraltthen select ALL16:05
leftyfbGuest40: pick both, click next16:06
Guest40but if i remember well, during installation the two options were "UNSELECTED" by default, then i think i have to change the default settings and select all the 2 options16:06
Guest40tomreyn16:07
tomreynGuest40: i think you want both enabled16:07
tomreynand i think you're spending too much time on these considerations. you can always just reinstall if you're unhappy with the outcome.16:07
Guest40tomreyn in fact in the version 22.04.1 i had problem with graphical card because some volouteers told me that my previous ubuntu was ok but i just didn't have the graphical session when at the start up it shows me textual lines where to write User and password, they told me that maybe it depends on NVIDIA graphical card, maybe its drivers16:10
Guest40tomreyn I'm asking in advance because the HD is starting to give problems, and I'm asking first to avoid formatting it multiple times, because I've been told that multiple formattings will further damage the HD16:11
tomreynGuest40: do you know which graphics card model you have there?16:11
tomreynor how old it is?16:11
heckeraltafk16:12
tomreynwhat does it mean that "the HD is starting to give problems"16:12
Unknownis this the official channel?16:12
tomreynUnknown: this is the official IRC (volunteer) support channel16:13
leftyfbUnknown: what can we help you with?16:13
leftyfbGuest40: if your drive is giving you problems, toss it and get a new one. Attempting to limit drive writes is not a solution16:14
tomreynGuest40: the questions i asked above (except for what i said to "Unknown") were to you16:14
Guest40tomreyn the app "DISKS" says that there are reallocated sectors, but the overall evaluation that it gives of the HD in the end is good because the writing appears at the top that "THE DISK IS OK", anyway the operating system and the computer in general is quite slow and they told me that it could depend on the HD which is deteriorating or perhaps16:15
Guest40is almost near the end of its life16:15
tomreynGuest40: you should replace this hdd16:16
Guest40tomreyn it shows me 2 item for GRAPHICS:16:16
tomreynget an ssd instead, those are soooo much faster, you'll love it.16:16
Guest401) Intel® HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2)16:16
Guest402) NVIDIA Corporation GP108M [GeForce MX150]16:17
Guest40tomreyn16:17
tomreyn...or an nvme even if your computer supports it16:17
Guest40tomreyn what is "nvme"?16:21
tomreynGuest40: a type of storage, like a sata ssd and a usb flash stick16:23
tomreynnvme16:23
tomreynoops16:23
tomreynGuest40: with this nvidia graphics chipset, you will most likely want use propeitary drivers16:24
Guest40anyway it doesn't matter if my current internal HD goes a little slow and then even if the internal HD of the PC suddenly breaks it's not even a problem because I keep all the data stored outside the computer, I prefer to use the original HD mounted at the factory in the computer, in fact I would have replaced it with an identical one to have the16:30
Guest40original piece, also because they told me that SSDs can have problems or in any case they also have disadvantages. The other day I was returning a computer that they had lent me and before returning it I wanted to use CCleaner to clean up the free space which I think is needed to delete everything even the "NOT VISIBLE" ones let's say, to not give16:30
Guest40the opportunity to strangers who would have used that computer to use programs like recuva to recover deleted personal files and I got a message that said that on SSDs it is better not to do this cleanup of free space because it could cause the deterioration of the SSD precisely16:30
Guest40tomreyn "with this nvidia graphics chipset, you will most likely want use propeitary drivers" https://ubuntucommunity.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/f/ff8b742c5b79efaaed137928080a48b7ad260ba7.jpeg16:45
Guest40is it useful even the second option?16:45
leftyfbGuest40: are you seriously still on that screen?16:47
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Guest40leftyfb no, i'm just asking in advance to be sure what is better to choose at the steps i don't know what select, maybe i'll do installation tomorrow, because now the weather is not good and I am afraid that there might be some power outage during the installation if I try to do it16:49
Guest40i even don't know how to choose at this step https://ubuntucommunity.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/b/5/b594aa3fe512474c8210e3d125b5557406d77654.jpeg16:51
leftyfbclick ok16:51
Guest40I often think about how useful it could be to encrypt everything to prevent them from accessing my personal work files and sensitive documents such as bank accounts and everything else if I lose my laptop, but I don't know how to do it and I don't know if I have to do it only on external HDs or, as in this case, if I have to do it on the internal16:53
Guest40HD of the PC during installation, all those acronyms and those LVM, ZFS technology, etc. etc. I don't even know what they are, how they work and how to use them because I have to do this procedure on external HDs too and I'm afraid of making a mistake or something going wrong and then I'll lose all my archived data including family photos16:53
Guest40leftyfb16:53
Guest40leftyfb Isn't encryption useful?16:54
leftyfbGuest40: you didn't originally specify encryption as a requirement of your needs16:54
Guest40leftyfb in fact I don't even know what encryption means, what happens and if this is the best method to protect my privacy or if there is some other better and more effective and maybe even simpler method. I don't know if there are any risks.... I mean I don't even know what encryption is for and how to use it, I don't understand anything about it16:55
leftyfbGuest40: my suggestion, is to just keep it simple and wait till your drive dies, then put some more thought and effort into your next install16:58
leftyfbyou could have had this installed 10 times in the time it's taken to discuss 2 dialog boxes16:58
Guest40leftyfb yes but I was waiting for the various answers, then it takes me time because I have to use the translator, I don't understand all the English and I don't even write it very well, then it's difficult because we talked about different things and with different people and it's not easy to have to copy and paste from the chat to the translator17:00
Guest40and vice versa every time17:00
Guest40leftyfb then I repeat that the weather is bad here, I don't have to do the installation now, I'll write down what I have to do in the various steps for which I don't know what to put and as soon as I can I'll start doing the installation17:02
Guest40so regarding the privacy issue, to avoid that your personal data and documents can end up in other hands and can be accessed by others, what is the best method to use? I ask this both for the internal HD of the PC and for the external HDs where I store everything17:02
tomreynif there is a chance that others can get access to your disks while they are not in use on your computer, and you store sensitive data on them, it can be useful to have.17:06
tomreynnot on a disk which is broken beyond repair, though17:07
Guest40tomreyn are you talking about encryption?17:09
tomreynGuest40: yes17:10
tomreynsoftware based block device encryption17:10
tomreynspecifically dm-crypt/LUKS17:10
dfiveyes, just boot a live system, use your I guess favourite file explorer, you are root then, and mount it17:10
dfiveencryption could be helpful to precare just click mount the data17:11
Guest40tomreyn i don't understand. do i need to use any options given in this step during installation? https://ubuntucommunity.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/b/5/b594aa3fe512474c8210e3d125b5557406d77654.jpeg17:15
leftyfbGuest40: if you want encryption, then pick the 3rd option, at which point it will ask you to set a passphrase that you will need to type in every time you boot before the login screen17:22
Guest40leftyfb yes I just wanted to understand in general terms, that is also for the other data that I have on external hard drives, if this thing called encryption, which I don't even know what it is, is the best method to protect your privacy and your data or if the best method is another, because as I repeat, I don't even know what encryption is, how17:25
Guest40it works, how to use it and what it consists of.17:25
leftyfbGuest40: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_encryption17:26
Guest40ok I'll read it later because now i have to go to dinner, but in case I also wanted to do it for the internal HD, is it better to do it now during the installation with the technologies mentioned, i.e. LVM and encryption (even if I don't know what type of encryption is used if I choose it during the installation) or is it better to do it after I17:29
Guest40have installed the system and maybe use other software and other better technologies if there are any?17:29
leftyfbyes, you're not going to be able to encrypt it after the fact17:30
toddcGuest40: easier now  I use ZFS and encryption on 9 computers ( I like the snapshot feature) and if the laptops get stolen I do not have to worry to much about my data17:32
Guest40toddc yes but the last three options are all experimental, usually they tell me that it is better not to use experimental features or beta versions of programs. and then I wanted to ask, what is the snapshot feature?17:34
Guest40leftyfb ok so after installing ubuntu you can no longer encrypt the internal hd?17:35
leftyfbGuest40: it is possible? yes. Is it easy for you to do? No17:36
toddcGuest40: you are 100% correct LVM is a safer bet. I have over 5 years with ZFS with no issues but it is newer17:36
Guest40ok, anyway I think it's better to do this encryption of the internal HD during the installation because in fact Ubuntu does not open some files directly from the external HD, but I have to copy and paste them on the desktop and then fortunately it opens them, so if I lose the computer someone could have access to these files because I copy them on17:38
Guest40the desktop and therefore on the internal HD, even if I then archive them externally and delete them from the PC17:38
Guest40leftyfb toddc17:39
Guest40https://ubuntucommunity.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/7/5/7578560dea014f12ec591489b94be0dd93ec059b.jpeg in this step what does it do if i select "Active window"? I don't know what it is and what it do17:46
Guest40excuse me, "ACTIVE DIRECTORY" and NOT "Active window"17:47
leftyfbyou don't need it17:47
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leftyfbGuest40: do you run your own Active Directory server or are you on a network that requires you to login to one? If not, you don't need it.17:56
Unknownubuntu is pretty neat18:20
Guest40leftyfb    you run your own Active Directory server or are you on a network that requires you to login to one? If not, you don't need it."18:25
Guest40Sorry but I didn't even understand the meaning of the question because I don't know what the things you mentioned are18:25
ElliriaThis is probably going to seem like a strange question, but is there a generic nonsense package that's installed on Ubuntu by default that can be used in commands that require a package name, but not any specific package?18:48
ElliriaFor example, this command tells you the address for reporting bugs. It happens to use firefox as the package, but any installed package would do. Is there a generic one that can be put into the command? Here's the command: apt-cache show firefox | grep Bugs18:49
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daniel_Hi! I attempted to file a bug report after having discovered it today: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/2080821 I don't know, however, which package this might be affecting. Does anyone have any suggestions?18:54
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2080821 in Ubuntu "Custom caps lock action inconsistent on login screen" [Undecided, New]18:54
ElliriaThe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage page seems to suggest that hardware problems should be filed against the kernel.18:56
ElliriaIf you choose that and it's wrong, someone at the other end will fix it.18:57
ElliriaI think.18:57
ElliriaYou could also ask in the #ubuntu-bugs channel.18:57
daniel_Thanks! I am not sure whether it is an actual hardware bug, or just two parts of the system keeping track of the state of caps lock18:58
daniel_I'll post a question in ubuntu-bugs as well (sorry, new to IRC!)18:59
ElliriaNo worries. I'm not sure, either, but the times that I've chosen a package and it was wrong, someone at the other end came along and corrected it.19:01
ElliriaI noticed that no one has replied in the ubuntu-bugs channel yet and no one else has replied here. Sometimes it takes quite a while to get a response and some other times, you'll get no response. Hopefully, you'll have good luck.19:04
daniel_Yes, I imagine people have more important things to attend to than a slightly annoying Caps lock bug. Like sleeping :D19:06
daniel_Thanks :)19:07
ElliriaHeh. Well, the Caps Lock key can be important and a misbehavine one can be problematic, so you have every right to want to fix it. Just curious, but did you try unplugging and replugging the keyboard?19:09
ElliriaOr even replacing it with another one temporarily to see if the issue persists?19:09
daniel_Since the behaviour was exactly the same on the laptop keyboard and the external -- using either wired or BT connection -- I figured it was a software issue rather than hardware. Have not yet rebooted to see if I can reproduce the issue from scratch though19:13
ElliriaAh, that's a solid test.19:16
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OutOfServicehi21:27
OutOfServiceI'm lloking for a way to transfer the ubuntu2x autoinstaller to a rsyslog server on the fly. I've tried the reporting option in https://canonical-subiquity.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/reference/autoinstall-reference.html#reporting but it's always failing the install. I'm not able to find anything useful on logs, so I think I need some help. Could yu please gime me some advice?21:27
OutOfServiceWell.. I'm talking about the logs, of course. I forgot to say21:28
Guest66Hi https://licha1n.github.io/community error22:36
bfbHi folks, I'm attempting a TPM-backed full disk encryption install of 24.04. Upon rebooting post-installation I am prompted to enter a recovery key - that I do not have as I have yet to boot into the freshly installed OS. Any guidance?22:43
BlackDemonI finally returned to Ubuntu after a long, long time.22:58

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