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SuperLagIs there any reason a regular package update would reset firewall rules?01:35
rboxwhat do you mean "regular package update"01:35
SuperLagupdate ; full-upgrade ; autoremove01:36
rboxdepends on what pacakges got updated01:37
SuperLagHad to re-add the rule to allow SSH for this box, so I could log back in to that machine. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rPyPdxcZR3/01:45
SuperLagI don't see any smoking guns.01:45
sarnoldvery weird01:54
SuperLagdefinitely01:54
SuperLagsarnold: suuuuuuuuuup dude? :D01:54
sarnoldSuperLag: it's been busy around here, getting things done, enjoying the new weather :) how about you?01:55
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SuperLagsarnold: I'm very sore.02:05
sarnoldSuperLag: uhoh :/02:06
SuperLagsarnold: slipped in the shower this morning. slammed my head on the wall on the way down. no concussion, but pride destroyed, and top half of my back is sore sore sore.02:07
sarnoldSuperLag: yikes02:07
sarnoldSuperLag: i've had some close calls and it's terrifying02:07
sarnold#nomoreshowers02:07
SuperLagLOL02:08
SuperLagnope, that's not tenable02:08
SuperLagnot if I want to remain married :D02:08
esoteric66you should take pride in the fact you weren't seriously injured.. I know some people who have broken bones from mishaps in the shower02:08
SuperLagesoteric66: no pride, but *VERY* thankful02:08
esoteric66yeah I hear you pride is hard to come by these days02:09
xanguaI always wear flip flops on the shower02:09
SuperLagI broke my foot in January, and my balance was terrible to begin with02:09
sarnold:(02:09
SuperLagthe irony?02:09
SuperLagI did it while I was walking on my treadmill.02:09
sarnoldthat's not fair02:10
esoteric66there are some shower "carpets" you can buy.. I guess you could call them shower mats or something along those lines but they are useful for keeping you from slipping at least02:10
SuperLagMy wife got on my case, because I'll reach outside the shower, and grab my towel and dry off while I'm still in there *instead of* stepping out on the mat. the mat that is dry. where I'd be safe and not on a wet, sloped floor :D02:11
sarnoldand get water all over??02:12
SuperLagthe mat is pretty big02:13
esoteric66plus hard water deposits or whatever may build up over time and spontaneously its slippery so you gotta constantly clean out the shower otherwise its dangerous regardless of if you are well balanced or not02:13
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esoteric66what is everyone's favorite terminal and IRC client combo?02:35
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stolenWhat is the most lightweight cli lightest kernel flavour of Ubuntu?02:48
enigma9o7Well there's only one version without a desktop, that's ubuntu server.02:49
stolenYeah I know but from distribution size that's still quite a lot02:50
enigma9o7esoteric, that's impossible to answer, as not everyone will have the same favorite.02:50
rboxwhat does "lightest kernel" even mean02:51
rboxlol02:51
enigma9o7Antix uses a lighter kernel.02:51
esoteric66well its a subjective topic anyways so it doesn't matter as its preference02:51
rboxand that means...02:51
enigma9o7DSL is a stripped down antix, but still includes a window manager.02:51
enigma9o7means less stuff enabled, uses less memory02:51
rboxlol02:52
enigma9o7what else could it mean?02:52
rboxnothing because it sounds like nonsense02:52
rboxlol02:52
enigma9o7It's not.  You ever built a kernel?02:52
rboxwhats that?02:53
rboxlol02:53
stolenHuh, lightweight as in smallest installation size02:59
stolenI was expecting a lubuntu or xubuntu02:59
sarnoldstolen: ubuntu server if you want something moderately small .. ubuntu minimal server via debootstrap or mmdebstrap or something like that if you want reaaaally small03:03
ubuntunethi, I found this command in shell and wondering if it is hack or I forgot I used it when installing something.. cat /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f1at /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f104:30
ubuntunetis this extracting pwd?04:30
SuperLagubuntunet: the "at" part of that command is an error, but all that does is get a list of users from the /etc/passwd file04:48
blahdeblahubuntunet: The 'cat /etc/passwd | ' is also redundant because cut will be using the file on its command line in preference to the pipe.04:49
SuperLagubuntunet: https://termbin.com/koka <- that's what it looks like running it from an instance here04:50
SuperLagthe "cut" command says to extract the first field, and ":" is the delimiter between fields04:51
SuperLagubuntunet: if you're legitimately concerned that you've been hacked, I hope you've *already* got a backup... and if so, wipe and reinstall.04:52
SuperLagthat's not necessarily a sinister command, though04:52
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hatesechi05:47
makara2on 24.04.1 my JBL5 sound was working yesterday. Today I ran update and restarted and now it connects but doesn't handle sound06:02
makara2where are we up to with all this bluetooth drama?06:06
Guest92Is anyone here? https://wchat.github.io07:28
mrgadgethi08:06
mrgadgetnew to linix08:06
mrgadgetnew to linux using Lubuntu at min08:06
anonymouswhere is cl.exe? in wsl ubuntu uname -r 6.6.36.3-microsoft-standard-WSL2+  bash --version 5.1.1608:42
ravageUbuntu does not have exe files08:44
anonymousravage: It is Ubunto for wsl2.08:53
ravageyes i got that. it still does not come with any exe files08:54
anonymousoh!08:55
makara2anonymous: what are you doing? You can compile with gcc09:06
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xamindarhas anyone tried using krfb to share their desktop over vnc?10:24
xamindari tried it (3 monitors), but it is broken. It shows my primary screen (middle monitor), but the mouse is moving around and interacting on the left screen.10:25
xamindarhow do I get it to properly share my entire screen (all three monitors)?10:25
anonymousmakar2: Im doing microsoft tutorial how to compile a c programm on the commandline. using gcc is understandable :-)10:27
tomreynxamindar: are you using kubuntu then? there's #kubuntu, and maybe the web links on https://apps.kde.org/krfb/ can also be helpful with your specific question (i.e. check their website and the list of previously reposrted bugs, or report a new one)10:38
xamindaryeah kubuntu. But i just decided to use x11vnc instead and all good now10:44
tomreynvery well10:50
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BluesKajHi all11:47
kim__hello12:23
morunasHey everyone. I've downloaded the Ubuntu 24.04.1 ISO and used Rufus on Windows 10 to create a GPT formatted LIVE stick. When I try to boot the LIVE environment by clicking "Try or install Ubuntu" in the GRUB menu of the USB stick, it shows me only this error "[      0.520603] Initramfs unpacking failed: invalid magic at start of compressed13:18
morunasarchive". I've read a bit around and it could relate to initramfs using zstd compression instead of whatever was used before. I did manage some days ago to create a LIVE stick of Ubuntu 20.04 and that worked. My HW is a bit old so for reference I have a Sabertooth P67 (UEFI, no secure boot) and an i7 2700K).13:18
leftyfbmorunas: use etcher to write the iso to the usb13:19
morunasoki I'll try that. may I know why that would work? :O13:19
semmorpheuz, i've heard the same thing that rufus doesn't always make the USB right. but iirc it is really good at making Windows live-isos14:18
Elw3So how would i log in to gui with two users at once? I mean one DE on tty7 and the other on tty814:43
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tarzeauElw3: needs to be local? xrdp/xorgxrdp allows multiple logins easily...14:49
Elw3I dont think i should fiddle with remote stuff. I was hoping there is a way to get back to the login screen and just start a new season, so basically i wonder if i can set any login manager to start a new tty instead of replacing itself with the DE14:54
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tobi_hi there16:54
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enigma9o7Iwould just start the second session from command line....17:35
enigma9o7I've done that before to start, for example, enlightenment or sway while my regular desktop is running.17:35
enigma9o7but dunno how to do it with login manager17:36
pavlosyou might need to run two Xorg processes, one on vt7 and one on vt817:38
Elw3Yea ages ago i simply did xinit enlightenment_start on anotehr tty17:42
Elw3but i think this needs some setup now17:42
enigma9o7Yeah I always did it with xorg for my main desktop, and wayland for the second (hence enlightenment or sway, which both start wayland by default when started from command line)17:42
Elw3and i was really hoping theer is something i dot need to spend 2 hours googling foor setting it up17:42
enigma9o7all you have to do is 'enlightenment_start' and it starts in wayland17:42
enigma9o7(or 'sway' same thing)17:43
Elw3oh you think this will work? Just log in and type that?17:43
enigma9o7It does work, at least while my regular desktop is running in X.17:43
enigma9o7I dunno what would happen if regular desktop running in wayland tho.17:43
Elw3I dunno what is currenrtly even used, i am not at the maschine in question right now17:44
Elw3What is used per default these days? Still x?17:44
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enigma9o7No, ubuntu-desktop defaults to wayland, but easy to switch to X, I did so to avoid complications.  But you could likely make the second session work by setting up the environment.17:53
enigma9o7like setting WAYLAND_DISPLAY or something, etc.17:54
lotuspsychjesome use wayland as base, like wayfire for example17:56
lotuspsychjei was testing it the other day, pretty lovely17:56
sixwheeledbeastsome flavors are still X too.17:56
Elw3I aint even sure what to put on there. Just bought a bunch of new hardware to setup for me and family.17:57
lotuspsychjeubuntu :p17:59
Elw3I noticed chromium exchanges data between different profiles/users so i want to use different /homes instead just the switching in the browser profile.18:00
Elw3my dad maybe gets kubuntu18:01
Elw3i personally slam E on everything but this is hard to handle for old folks18:01
BlackDemonE?18:30
smallville7123does ubuntu support risc-v18:30
lotuspsychjeBlackDemon: e, as in enlightment18:30
xypronsmallville7123: https://ubuntu.com/download/risc-v18:31
BlackDemonlotuspsychje: https://imgur.com/a/g1kZZjh18:32
smallville7123xypron: alright :)18:33
smallville7123oof 1 GB ;-;18:41
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Geronimohello. is it possible to move the icons to the center of the dash like on macOS?19:42
Geronimoah. found it. it's the "disable panel mode" option. no worries19:45
eelstreborwhat does it mean that opendkim.service  is  masked?20:10
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esoteric66yeah we had to do something about that nonsense on our irc network not too long ago20:48
bray90820so I know some updates require you to restart ubuntu would a schedualed shut down once a day be an ok option for that?20:50
esoteric66its not necessary20:51
esoteric66just casually update whenever convenient20:51
esoteric66not necessary to restart constantly20:51
bray90820esoteric66: I know I can restart it whenever it tells me to restart but the issue is that I have processes running throughou the day and I can't always restart20:52
esoteric66its harder on your computer hardware to shutdown restart all the time anyways for real20:52
bray90820Should I do a weekly shutdown or how should I do it then?20:53
esoteric66just update whenever convenient and that should be fine.. yeah just whenever you aren't using the computer and you have time to restart20:53
esoteric66your system won't break randomly just because you didn't restart20:54
bray90820I was hoping to put it on a schedual20:54
esoteric66yeah but imagine you are super busy and your computer randomly shuts off because you had it scheduled to shutoff at that time20:54
esoteric66its completely unnecessary20:55
bray90820I was gona have it happen at 3:00 AM which is a time I know I would never be using it20:55
leftyfbbray90820: again, you don't need to. Don't bother20:56
esoteric66what I do especially when I have something running in the background like some IRC connection.. I have something dedicated to stay on 24/7 like a rpi and that way I don't need to get disconnected or stop what I'm doing just because of an update20:56
esoteric66but I recommend check any major update though.. and just restart then20:57
esoteric66those are when its important20:57
bray90820leftyfb: to be honest you are mostly rght byt also I think I am realizing this is mostly the wrong channel to ask this in since the question mostly pretains to plex20:59
esoteric66same principles apply though20:59
esoteric66regardless20:59
esoteric66computers are meant to stay on as much as possible20:59
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Guest76leftyfb [17:56] <leftyfb> Guest40: do you run your own Active Directory server or are you on a network that requires you to login to one? If not, you don't need it.21:49
Guest76[18:25] <Guest40> Sorry but I didn't even understand the meaning of the question because I don't know what the things you mentioned are21:49
Guest76what does active directory consist of?21:50
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vortexxGuest76: Active Directory is a fleet of computers management system using LDAP, developed by Microsoft. Allows for network logins, single sign in, roaming profiles, etc21:56
Guest76I don't even know what all these are. I think I don't need them or is it better to select that checkbox during installation?21:58
gordonjcpGuest76: if you don't know what Active Directory is - or if you're not in a large workplace with lots of Windows computers that you can log into - it's safe to leave that unchecked21:59
gordonjcpGuest76: what do you plan on using this Linux PC for?21:59
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gordonjcpGuest76: basically if you don't plan on plugging it into your work network you can ignore AD21:59
gordonjcpGuest76: you don't know what AD is and you'd need to know that and a hell of a lot more to actually run AD at home22:00
gordonjcpso22:00
gordonjcpit's likely you do not need to care about AD today22:00
gordonjcpyay22:00
Guest76gordonjcp connection dropped: "ok thanks, i'm a basic user I am a home user and I am not very good at PC."22:14
gordonjcp23:00 < gordonjcp> Guest76: you don't know what AD is and you'd need to know that and a hell of a lot more to actually run AD at home22:19
gordonjcp23:00 < gordonjcp> it's likely you do not need to care about AD today22:20
gordonjcptomorrow is only 40 minutes away22:20
gordonjcpyou can take your chances on it, but I doubt you'll need to know AD tomorrow, too22:20
Guest76gordonjcp no, i think i don't need it.... i just ask before because if i don't know what it is, i don't even know if maybe it could be useful to me22:24
gordonjcpGuest76: there are no stupid questions, except the one you didn't ask22:25
gordonjcpGuest76: it's kind of odd they'd put it right there in the installer to be honest, it's something that very few people will ever need22:26
gordonjcpGuest76: if you were rolling out Ubuntu desktops in an environment that cared about AD, you wouldn't be installing them one-by-one by hand22:26
Guest76"there are no stupid questions, except the one you didn't ask"22:33
Guest76gordonjcp not everyone thinks so :-) there are many also on other support chats who think that some questions are stupid without realizing that one simply asks them to understand something, to avoid making mistakes also and above all because one is not as good at the PC as they are who are professionals and take certain things for granted22:33
gordonjcpGuest76: yes but some people are dicks22:40
gordonjcpGuest76: it's a sign of insecurity22:40
gordonjcpGuest76: OH JEEZ YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTIVE DIRECTORY IS WHAT AN IDIOT YOU ARE GET WITH THE TIMES MAN22:41
gordonjcpGuest76: but I bet they don't have a clue themselves22:41
gordonjcpaw, they quit, annoying22:41

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