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[01:50] <vorlon> jbicha: done
[01:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted guvcview [sync] (oracular-proposed) [2.1.0-0.1]
[01:51] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: UbuntuStudio seeds out of date wrt Kubuntu.  I fixed the reference to an NBS package for beta, have not looked at anything else. https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntustudio/commit/?id=b0df2e2d2f801dad6b2cf357a0017c178d7526dd
[01:51] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Commit b0df2e2 in ~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntustudio "Catch up with kubuntu: qml-module-org-kde-pipewire is NBS, move to qml6 HEAD oracular"
[01:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntustudio-meta (oracular-proposed/universe) [24.10.13 => 24.10.14] (ubuntustudio)
[01:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntustudio-meta [source] (oracular-proposed) [24.10.14]
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[02:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted guvcview [amd64] (oracular-proposed) [2.1.0-0.1]
[02:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted guvcview [armhf] (oracular-proposed) [2.1.0-0.1]
[02:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted guvcview [s390x] (oracular-proposed) [2.1.0-0.1]
[02:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted guvcview [arm64] (oracular-proposed) [2.1.0-0.1]
[02:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted guvcview [ppc64el] (oracular-proposed) [2.1.0-0.1]
[02:08] <vorlon> why are there dbgsym packages in the archive marked priority: required >:|
[02:09] <vorlon> actually I guess they're only in the ddebs archive so having them show up on https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/priority-mismatches.html seems an entirely new misfeature?
[02:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kubuntu-meta (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.461 => 1.462] (kubuntu)
[02:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: guvcview [riscv64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [2.1.0-0.1] (no packageset)
[02:27] <vorlon> error: cannot validate seed:
[02:27] <vorlon>  - cannot use snap "thunderbird": default provider "gnome-46-2404" or any alternative provider for content "gnome-46-2404" is missing
[02:28] <vorlon> jbicha: ^
[02:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted guvcview [riscv64] (oracular-proposed) [2.1.0-0.1]
[02:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntukylin-meta (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.58 => 0.59] (ubuntukylin)
[02:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-mate-meta (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.298 => 1.299] (ubuntu-mate)
[02:53] <vorlon> jbicha: could guvcview have been identified sooner than the day beta is due?
[02:59] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: ack, will update meta this evening. Out working on an audio mixer.
[05:16] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: nevermind, I see you updated the meta. I was mobile and didn't see the whole picture.
[05:16] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: I *only* updated it to remove the reference to the NBS package
[05:16] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: I see that.
[05:16] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: so I don't know in what other ways you're lagging behind the kubuntu seeds this cycle, which is what I wanted to flag
[05:17] <Eickmeyer> I think that's it. For the most part I've been keeping up and coordinating with them.
[05:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kubuntu-meta [source] (oracular-proposed) [1.462]
[05:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: freesas (oracular-proposed/primary) [2024.9.0-1]
[05:43] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Studio missing from https://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/462/builds
=== Mirv__ is now known as Mirv
[07:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted camlp5 [source] (oracular-proposed) [8.03.00-1build4]
[08:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ideep (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20230825.6f4d653-2 => 0.0~git20240814.41d636c-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[08:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ideep [sync] (oracular-proposed) [0.0~git20240814.41d636c-1]
[09:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ucommon (oracular-proposed/universe) [7.0.1-0.3 => 7.0.1-0.4~build1] (no packageset)
[09:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ucommon [source] (oracular-proposed) [7.0.1-0.4~build1]
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[09:25] <ppisati> WRT the 6.8 bridge kernel for Oracular, it's only expected for generic, right?
[09:25] <ppisati> we are not producing a 6.8 bridge kernel for lowlatency too, right?
[11:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rust-gix-trace (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.1.9-1 => 0.1.10-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[11:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted rust-gix-trace [sync] (oracular-proposed) [0.1.10-1]
[11:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libesmtp (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.1.0-3.1ubuntu1 => 1.1.0-3.2] (no packageset) (sync)
[11:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tecla (oracular-proposed/main) [47~beta-1 => 47.0-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[11:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libesmtp [sync] (oracular-proposed) [1.1.0-3.2]
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[11:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-sudoku (oracular-proposed/universe) [1:47~beta-1 => 1:47.0-1] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
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[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pqiv [source] (oracular-proposed) [2.13.1-1build1]
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[12:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted utop [source] (oracular-proposed) [2.14.0-1build12]
[12:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lambda-term [source] (oracular-proposed) [3.3.2-1build18]
[12:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ocaml-mirage-crypto [source] (oracular-proposed) [1.1.0-2build4]
[13:06] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: the metapackage hadn't propagated yet, then there was a failed build.  it's there now
[13:06] <vorlon> ppisati: I don't think there are any flavors installing a lowlatency kernel in oracular, so there wouldn't be a need for it?
[13:32] <ppisati> vorlon: ack
[13:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: xmms2 (oracular-proposed/primary) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2]
[13:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted xmms2 [source] (oracular-proposed) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2]
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[13:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: xmms2 [s390x] (oracular-proposed/none) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[13:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted freesas [sync] (oracular-proposed) [2024.9.0-1]
[13:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted xmms2 [s390x] (oracular-proposed) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2]
[13:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted xmms2 [amd64] (oracular-proposed) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2]
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[13:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: xmms2 [ppc64el] (oracular-proposed/none) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2] (no packageset)
=== utkarsh61 is now known as utkarsh2102
[13:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted xmms2 [arm64] (oracular-proposed) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2]
[13:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: xmms2 [armhf] (oracular-proposed/none) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[13:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted xmms2 [ppc64el] (oracular-proposed) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2]
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[13:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted freesas [amd64] (oracular-proposed) [2024.9.0-1]
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted freesas [armhf] (oracular-proposed) [2024.9.0-1]
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted xmms2 [armhf] (oracular-proposed) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2]
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted freesas [arm64] (oracular-proposed) [2024.9.0-1]
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted freesas [ppc64el] (oracular-proposed) [2024.9.0-1]
[14:08] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: are you preparing more ocaml/coq uploads?
[14:09] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, I guess not, just retries
[14:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ocaml-merlin (oracular-proposed/universe) [5.1-502+ds-1 => 5.1-502+ds-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[14:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ocaml-merlin [sync] (oracular-proposed) [5.1-502+ds-2]
[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ocaml-uunf (oracular-proposed/universe) [15.1.0-2build1 => 16.0.0-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rust-gix-path (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.10.11-1 => 0.10.11-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[14:28] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: As far as I know, that's correct, but there are other use cases for the lowlatency kernel. That said, I know it is intended to be deprecated in the future.
[14:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ocaml-uunf [sync] (oracular-proposed) [16.0.0-1]
[14:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted rust-gix-path [sync] (oracular-proposed) [0.10.11-2]
[14:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: freesas [riscv64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [2024.9.0-1] (no packageset)
[14:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: xmms2 [riscv64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted freesas [riscv64] (oracular-proposed) [2024.9.0-1]
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted xmms2 [riscv64] (oracular-proposed) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2]
[15:06] <dviererbe> sru-team: Could you accept dotnet6 into jammy? The verification is done, see LP#2076742
[15:06] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2076742 in dotnet6 (Ubuntu) "[SRU] New upstream microrelease .NET 6.0.33/6.0.133" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076742
[15:14] <mateus-morais> dviererbe looks like it was already released as of 2 hours ago
[15:15] <dviererbe> okay never mind then, I didn't noticed the "updates" after "proposed" on that launchpad page
[15:16] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: but this is about a kernel selection mechanism on install images in the event of use cases 6.11 cannot handle at release so that's orthogonal
[15:18] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: I'm not aware of a flavor that's using the lowlatency kernel anymore now that Studio has gone with the generic kernel with extra boot parameters, if that helps.
[15:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mercurial (noble-proposed/universe) [6.7.2-1ubuntu2.1 => 6.7.2-1ubuntu2.2] (no packageset)
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected valkey [source] (noble-proposed) [7.2.5+dfsg1-2ubuntu2~24.04]
[15:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mercurial (oracular-proposed/universe) [6.8-3 => 6.8-3ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[15:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mercurial [source] (oracular-proposed) [6.8-3ubuntu1]
[15:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected mercurial [source] (noble-proposed) [6.7.2-1ubuntu2.2]
[16:12] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, kannel removal on armhf ping please
[17:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gst-python1.0 (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.24.7-1 => 1.24.8-1] (no packageset) (sync)
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[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gst-rtsp-server1.0 [sync] (oracular-proposed) [1.24.8-1]
[17:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gstreamer-editing-services1.0 [sync] (oracular-proposed) [1.24.8-1]
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[18:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ucommon [sync] (oracular-proposed) [7.0.1-0.4]
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[18:57] <Eickmeyer> Ubuntu Studio is ready
[19:23] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: kannel/armhf hasn't been dropped from unstable, why are we dropping rather than fixing? https://bugs.debian.org/1081951
[19:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1081951 in src:kannel "kannel: FTBFS on 32 bit architectures where time is time64_t" [Serious, Open]
[19:47] <ricotz> vorlon, hi :), please could you refresh the i386 list for focal and jammy? it should pick up nvidia-graphics-drivers-560
[19:52] <utkarsh2102> Eickmeyer: hey, have you marked that already?
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: Yes. queuebot isn't saying anything.
[19:53] <utkarsh2102> okeydoke, thank you! \o/
[19:57] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: Edubuntu amd64 Ready
[19:57] <utkarsh2102> lovely
[19:59] <utkarsh2102> Eickmeyer: can you ping other flavour leads on Matrix to see if they can mark their products as ready?
[19:59] <utkarsh2102> if not done already :)
[20:00] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: Sure, I'll ping them. I do know that a few were feeling rushed as we only had images a few hours ago.
[20:01] <Eickmeyer> sleeperbarbie: Fix your connection again, please. :)
[20:07] <Eickmeyer> waveform: rpi-imager snap is having apparmor profile issues on 24.10! *panic*
[20:08] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: a few hours ago> that is rushed; was there a respin that I was personally unaware of after the set I built last night?
=== sleeperb1 is now known as sleeperbarb13
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: We (speaking for the flavor leads) are used to having the first beta spins earlier in the week than the Wednesday of beta release. These spins were happening Wednesday night my time.
[20:10] <utkarsh2102> Eickmeyer: sigh, https://code.launchpad.net/~utkarsh/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/473522 should fix that :)
[20:11] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: Oh boy, that should also fix the digikam/marble/kalgebra/whatever apparmor profile issues I was experiencing in the live images.
[20:11] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: yes, they were late.  I would not have called that "a few hours" as it was a full day for Europe and half a day so far for the US, so I wanted to understand
[20:12] <utkarsh2102> Eickmeyer: yes, a bit too late for Beta now but I'll get this landed tomorrow once the Beta's out
[20:12] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: how's edubuntu raspi testing?
[20:13] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: I'm trying to get it imaged, but running into an apparmor profile problem running the imager under 24.10.
[20:13] <vorlon> doh
[20:13] <Eickmeyer> Hence my *panic* to waveform. :)
[20:19] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: is 'sudo dd' an acceptable substitute here or does the imager do something fancy?
[20:19] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, because that struct is embedded into a network packet, I don't speak that strange language it is written, and moreover, if the struct is sent over network, I'm pretty sure it never worked on 32bit, or it will stop if we fix
[20:19] <LocutusOfBorg> so even the maintainer told on the bug to probably just drop it
[20:19] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: ack, deleting
[20:19] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: imager does fancy stuff like partitioning and what-not. It has to basically put the pi's bios and everything on the SD card.
[20:20] <vorlon> hmm.
[20:20] <vorlon> the images we ship are supposed to be self-contained and not require any additional bits
[20:20] <vorlon> if we have acquired a dependency on the imager I was unaware (and am unhappy this has not been discussed)
[20:20] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks! I'm not a huge fan of sms gateways failing to parse the time of the received message :D
[20:21] <Eickmeyer> It's standard part of Raspberry Pi hardware, and is a hardware dependency more than anything.
[20:21] <Eickmeyer> BTW, I still have a Noble box and got it to run there.
[20:22] <vorlon> having the *option* to do partitioning from an imager is fine but the base experience should not depend on it, our preinstalled images are supposed to have support for auto-expanding of root partition on first boot
[20:22] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: .
[20:22] <Eickmeyer> It does, but the SD card also has to have the BIOS firmware as well.
[20:23] <vorlon> I have never heard before of this being something that's not on our image
[20:23] <Eickmeyer> It's created by the imager application. I think waveform might be able correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I understand.
[20:24] <Eickmeyer> The way it writes varies based on what Raspi hardware you're writing to. If it's a Raspi 4 it's going to write differently than for a Raspi 5, so a simple dd would not work.
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> The specs are somewhere on the raspi website.
[20:29] <RikMills> utkarsh2102: Even though testign is not complete, I will mark Kubuntu as ready. Most important tests look ok, and this is a beta after all, so rough edges are there to be fixed
[20:29] <utkarsh2102> RikMills: ok, good, thanks! o/
[20:30] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: the imager may make assertions about its utility that are not true for Ubuntu, too
[20:30] <RikMills> and done
[20:32] <vorlon> RikMills: it is in any event the flavor lead's call whether to mark it ready and we aren't going to push back too hard about missing tests at beta
[20:34] <jbicha> vorlon: thanks for fixing up Ubuntu Budgie guvcview. Not you, but maybe there should be more hesitation before removing a seeded package. It may not have been clear to the flavour that there was a RC bug for the package
[20:37] <vorlon> jbicha: yes it is NOT me, I always communicate before removing seeded packages.  I'm going to guess without looking that it was doko that removed this?
[20:38]  * Eickmeyer throws $10 in that pot
[20:42] <Eickmeyer> Edubuntu RaspPi is ready
[20:42] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: ^
[20:43] <utkarsh2102> yay, thank you!
[20:44] <Eickmeyer> Hopefully this is the last cycle we have to use oem-config.
[20:47] <vorlon> it's on roadmap for the desktop team to replace it with a good solution for next cycle.  GIS for a stopgap was tried but there were issues and I pushed back on the hacks being pushed to work around it
[20:47] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: i.e. https://code.launchpad.net/~waveform/ubuntu-images/+git/ubuntu-images/+merge/473232
[20:47] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: That's been my conversation with seb128.
[20:48] <Eickmeyer> A flutter application to replace `gnome-initial-setup` is in the works.
[20:48] <vorlon> yes
[20:50] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: Question for you in Matrix.
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: puma (oracular-proposed/main) [6.4.2-5ubuntu2 => 6.4.2-5ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[21:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted puma [source] (oracular-proposed) [6.4.2-5ubuntu3]
[21:21] <waveform> Eickmeyer, vorlon, re: rpi-imager -- it's a bit simpler than that. The image is already written verbatim to the target media (a la "dd"), but in the case of certain images where boot-partition customization is possible, the imager can *optionally* then mount the boot-partition and apply customization
[21:22] <waveform> (in the case of the Ubuntu server images, this means customizing the cloud-init seed)
[21:22] <vorlon> right, that's what I expected
[21:23] <Eickmeyer> Ok, that works for me.
[21:23] <Eickmeyer> Still the snap won't run under 24.10. 😱
[21:24] <waveform> rpi-imager has recently undergone some fairly extensive changes upstream and they're now distributing it as a (heavily vendored) AppImage on both amd64 and arm64 so that may be preferable to using the snap anyway (which I haven't found time to update)
[21:24] <Eickmeyer> Ah, good to know.
[21:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-settings-daemon (oracular-proposed/main) [47~rc-1ubuntu1 => 47.1-1ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[21:29] <arraybolt3> ubuntu-release: did something about AppArmor change that could resurface https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/2065088 in Oracular? Can't launch Falkon, it's crashing with a trace/breakpiont trap, this worked in 24.04.1.
[21:29] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2065088 in apparmor (Ubuntu) "AppArmor profiles allowing userns not immediately active in 24.04 live image" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[21:30] <arraybolt3> er, no, wrong bug
[21:30] <arraybolt3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/2046844 right bug
[21:30] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2046844 in tor (Ubuntu) "AppArmor user namespace creation restrictions cause many applications to crash with SIGTRAP" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[21:30] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: https://code.launchpad.net/~utkarsh/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/473522 will fix it, too late for the betas.
[21:31] <arraybolt3> ah, perfect, then no particular concern. I'll forge ahead by disabling the sandbox for now.
[21:31] <arraybolt3> FWIW it may actually be the Falkon package's fault, it seems to be missing an apparmor policy.
[21:32] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: Is it on qt6?
[21:34] <arraybolt3> it is
[21:35] <arraybolt3> weirder yet still, disabling the sandbox gets it to launch but it can't render. Disabling the apparmor feature entirely doesn't change the crash behavior at all.
[21:35] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: qt6 apps need the apparmor profiles updated to the qt6 path as I've found out. digikam had the same issue.
[21:36] <Eickmeyer> The other issue is the one I linked.
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[21:37] <arraybolt3> is the ability to disable the apparmor restrictions on user namespaces no longer present in Oracular?
[21:37] <arraybolt3> because I can't get this thing to launch in any way despite following the instructions from the noble release notes
[21:38] <Eickmeyer> That I don't know.
[21:51] <waveform> oh fun, then rpi-imager will also have that issue (they've upgraded to qt6 too upstream)
[21:51] <Eickmeyer> oof, not to mention appimages have that issue on apparmor anyhow.
[21:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mercurial [source] (noble-proposed) [6.7.2-1ubuntu2.2]
[22:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: alsa-ucm-conf (oracular-proposed/main) [1.2.10-1ubuntu5 => 1.2.10-1ubuntu6] (core)
[22:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: firmware-sof (oracular-proposed/main) [2023.12.1-1ubuntu1 => 2024.06-1ubuntu1] (kernel)
[22:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: webkit2gtk (oracular-proposed/main) [2.46.0-1 => 2.46.0-2] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist) (sync)
[22:59] <utkarsh2102> ok, I am going to log off!
[23:00] <utkarsh2102> see you all tomorrow! o/
[23:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pipewire (oracular-proposed/main) [1.2.3-1ubuntu1 => 1.2.4-1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist) (sync)
[23:10] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Cinnamon is pulling-in gnome-shell. Will need a respin, fix incoming.
[23:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinnamon-desktop-environment (oracular-proposed/universe) [6.0.0 => 6.0.0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:15] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: That's the fix for cinnamon, drops desktop-base as a dependency (imo and jbicha's opinion, it should never have had).
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