[00:15] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: I have committments this evening; I've kicked it to sil2100 in case he's still around (he was 2h ago), the earliest I can look at this is 10pm Pacific
[00:15] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: No worries.
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[00:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cinnamon-desktop-environment [source] (oracular-proposed) [6.0.0ubuntu1]
[01:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: htpdate (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.3.7-2build2 => 1.3.7-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[02:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted htpdate [source] (oracular-proposed) [1.3.7-2ubuntu1]
[04:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xfdesktop4 (oracular-proposed/universe) [4.19.3-1 => 4.19.3-1ubuntu1] (xubuntu)
[04:58] <bandali> tjaalton, re LP: #2077587 i've performed the verification for noble, and for jammy seb128 sponsored another upload last week with the preferred version format, i'd appreciate if you'd review and accept into jammy-proposed, thanks
[04:58] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2077587 in xdg-desktop-portal (Ubuntu Jammy) "Refresh WebExtensions portal patch" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2077587
[06:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wireless-regdb [source] (noble-proposed) [2024.07.04-0ubuntu1~24.04.1]
[07:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted live-build [source] (noble-proposed) [3.0~a57-1ubuntu49.1]
[07:05] <tjaalton> releases.ubuntu.com still advertises mantic..
[07:05] <tjaalton> bandali: ack
[07:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-shell-extension-appindicator [source] (noble-proposed) [58-1ubuntu24.04.1]
[07:15] <tjaalton> mitya57: lp2077270 is still missing sru information
[07:22] <mitya57> tjaalton: Oops. I was not subscribed so missed your comment. Will fix
[07:23] <tjaalton> thanks
[07:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libreoffice [source] (noble-proposed) [4:24.2.6-0ubuntu0.24.04.1]
[07:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock [source] (noble-proposed) [90ubuntu2]
[07:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: ocaml-kdf (oracular-proposed/primary) [1.0.0-1]
[07:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock [source] (jammy-proposed) [72~ubuntu5.22.04.3]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nagios4 [source] (jammy-proposed) [4.4.6-4ubuntu0.22.04.1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nagios4 [source] (focal-proposed) [4.3.4-3ubuntu0.1]
[07:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dotnet8 [source] (jammy-proposed) [8.0.108-8.0.8-0ubuntu1~22.04.2]
[08:00] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, last one is ocaml-ldf
[08:00] <LocutusOfBorg> *kdf
[08:01] <mitya57> tjaalton: updated
[08:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xdg-desktop-portal [source] (jammy-proposed) [1.14.4-1ubuntu2~22.04.2]
[08:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xmms2 (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2 => 0.8+dfsg-27] (no packageset) (sync)
[08:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xmms2 (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.8+dfsg-26ubuntu2 => 0.8+dfsg-27] (no packageset) (sync)
[08:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xmms2 [sync] (oracular-proposed) [0.8+dfsg-27]
[08:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected xmms2 [sync] (oracular-proposed) [0.8+dfsg-27]
[08:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qemu [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:6.2+dfsg-2ubuntu6.23]
[08:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xfsdump [source] (focal-proposed) [3.1.6+nmu2ubuntu1]
[08:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted far2l [source] (noble-proposed) [2.6.0~beta+ds-1ubuntu0.2]
[08:16] <tjaalton> mitya57: ta
[08:18] <doko> tjaalton: what's the plan with dkms? a) release with a different compiler version than the kernel, b) remove not updated stuff, c) fix stuff ...
[08:18] <mitya57> thank you for accepting :)
[08:26] <tjaalton> doko: the dkms update didn't break the remaining packages that fail to build with 6.11
[08:26] <tjaalton> so it's a bit silly to have it blocked due to those
[08:33] <tjaalton> the errors are ignored for the kernel, as these get fixed eventually before the release
[08:33] <doko> so what about the autopkg tests?
[08:33] <tjaalton> they are all module build failures
[08:34] <tjaalton> many had to be triggered together with the new kernel
[08:34] <tjaalton> but those remain that fail to build with 6.11
[08:34] <tjaalton> or with gcc-14
[09:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: linux-apfs-rw (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.3.2-0ubuntu5 => 0.3.11-1] (kernel-dkms) (sync)
[09:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-control-center (noble-proposed/main) [1:46.3-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 => 1:46.4-0ubuntu0.24.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[09:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: falkon (oracular-proposed/universe) [24.05.2-0ubuntu1 => 24.05.2-0ubuntu3] (kubuntu)
[09:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: colord-kde (oracular-proposed/universe) [23.08.5-0ubuntu4 => 24.08.1-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[09:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: initramfs-tools (oracular-proposed/main) [0.142ubuntu33 => 0.142ubuntu34] (core, i386-whitelist)
[09:18] <tjaalton> release team, linux-apfs-rw sync above might let it build with kernel 6.11
[09:25] <tjaalton> are we still in beta freeze?
[09:25] <tjaalton> according to topic on #ubuntu-devel, yes
[09:32] <ginggs> tjaalton: yes, and the topic is still correct
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-control-center [source] (noble-proposed) [1:46.4-0ubuntu0.24.04.1]
[09:33] <tjaalton> ack
[09:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-control-center (noble-proposed/main) [1:46.3-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 => 1:46.4-0ubuntu0.24.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[09:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-control-center [source] (noble-proposed) [1:46.4-0ubuntu0.24.04.1]
[09:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-control-center (noble-proposed/main) [1:46.3-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 => 1:46.4-0ubuntu0.24.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[09:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: stayrtr (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.5.1+20240301-1 => 0.6.1-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[10:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted stayrtr [sync] (oracular-proposed) [0.6.1-1]
[11:17] <RikMills> ubuntu-release: hi. could I get an ack on LP: #2080724 please?
[11:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2080724 in kf6-attica (Ubuntu) "[FFe] KDE Frameworks 6.6 release" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2080724
[11:21] <utkarsh2102> looking..
[11:42] <utkarsh2102> RikMills: approved but only if you promise me to land this right after Beta :)
[11:42] <utkarsh2102> I added a comment there.
[11:44] <RikMills> Ukikie: that is the plan. actually wanted to do it before but KDE release schedule and firefighting issues on transition to plasma 6 got in the way
[11:44] <RikMills> utkarsh2102: I mean ^^^^
[11:44] <RikMills> and thanks!
[11:45] <utkarsh2102> perfect! thank you!
[12:47] <utkarsh2102> Wimpy: hey! there's absolutely no updates on MATE. This is not looking good for 24.10 Beta.
[12:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: puma (oracular-proposed/main) [6.4.2-5ubuntu3 => 6.4.2-5ubuntu4] (no packageset)
[12:47] <utkarsh2102> it looks buggy already per Skia's reports.
[12:47] <utkarsh2102> can you please update us with where we're at?
[12:47] <utkarsh2102> at this point we might have to drop MATE for Beta
[12:47] <utkarsh2102> which is not good.
[12:48] <utkarsh2102> but oh well!
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted puma [source] (oracular-proposed) [6.4.2-5ubuntu4]
[13:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sundials (oracular-proposed/universe) [6.4.1+dfsg1-3build7 => 7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sundials [sync] (oracular-proposed) [7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1]
[13:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: libmoe (oracular-proposed/primary) [1.5.8-6]
[13:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: sundials [amd64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1] (no packageset)
[13:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: initramfs-tools (noble-proposed/main) [0.142ubuntu25.2 => 0.142ubuntu25.3] (core, i386-whitelist)
[13:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: sundials [arm64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1] (no packageset)
[13:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: sundials [ppc64el] (oracular-proposed/universe) [7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1] (no packageset)
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmoe [sync] (oracular-proposed) [1.5.8-6]
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted sundials [amd64] (oracular-proposed) [7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1]
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted sundials [ppc64el] (oracular-proposed) [7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1]
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-kdf [sync] (oracular-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted sundials [arm64] (oracular-proposed) [7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1]
[13:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libmoe [amd64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.5.8-6] (no packageset)
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ocaml-kdf [amd64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ocaml-kdf [arm64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ocaml-kdf [s390x] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ocaml-kdf [armhf] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)
[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libmoe [arm64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.5.8-6] (no packageset)
[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ocaml-kdf [ppc64el] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)
[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libmoe [s390x] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.5.8-6] (no packageset)
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libmoe [ppc64el] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.5.8-6] (no packageset)
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmoe [amd64] (oracular-proposed) [1.5.8-6]
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmoe [ppc64el] (oracular-proposed) [1.5.8-6]
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-kdf [amd64] (oracular-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-kdf [armhf] (oracular-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-kdf [s390x] (oracular-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmoe [arm64] (oracular-proposed) [1.5.8-6]
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-kdf [arm64] (oracular-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmoe [s390x] (oracular-proposed) [1.5.8-6]
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-kdf [ppc64el] (oracular-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libmoe [armhf] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.5.8-6] (no packageset)
[14:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ocaml-kdf [riscv64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)
[14:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (oracular-proposed/universe) [199 => 200] (ubuntu-desktop)
[14:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libmoe [riscv64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.5.8-6] (no packageset)
[14:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: sundials [riscv64] (oracular-proposed/universe) [7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1] (no packageset)
[15:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libreoffice (jammy-backports/main) [4:24.2.5-0ubuntu0.24.04.1~bpo22.04.1 => 4:24.2.6-0ubuntu0.24.04.1~bpo22.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[15:25] <utkarsh2102> gonna rejoin in a bit; see y'all.
[15:42] <LocutusOfBorg> one ocaml-kdf wasn't accepted on riscv64, sorry
[16:02] <LocutusOfBorg> please ubuntu-archive accept it
[16:02]  * Eickmeyer waits for utkarsh2102 to come back... has a fix for Cinnamon
[16:02] <Eickmeyer> Needs a new meta
[16:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntucinnamon-meta (oracular-proposed/universe) [24.10 => 24.10.1] (no packageset)
[16:18] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-release: ^ Ubuntu Cinnamon needs that meta accepted ASAP for a higher lightdm seed and a respin. For some reason, the cinnamon folks packaging in Debian thought it would be a good idea to list gdm as an alternate, which is bugging things up here in Ubuntu land.
[16:18] <Eickmeyer> GDM is getting pulled-in to Cinnamon which is pulling-in all of gnome-shell. To prevent that, lightdm is getting seeded higher.
[16:34] <sil2100> Eickmeyer: argh, so the previous upload wasn't enough huh
[16:35] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: Sadly, no. Two issues causing gnome-shell to get pulled-in apparently.
[16:37] <sil2100> Eickmeyer: what is the consequence of gdm being pulled in cinnamon images? Trying to assess the severity since we're already late and it's late Friday evening
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmoe [armhf] (oracular-proposed) [1.5.8-6]
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-kdf [riscv64] (oracular-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libmoe [riscv64] (oracular-proposed) [1.5.8-6]
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: All of GNOME Shell, and the live session defaulting to GNOME Shell.
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted sundials [riscv64] (oracular-proposed) [7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1]
[16:37] <utkarsh2102> uh oh
[16:38] <Eickmeyer> I'd consider that pretty severe.
[16:39] <sil2100> Ouchey, eh, I'd love if this was noticed earlier! Accepting
[16:40] <sil2100> Will take a bit to get migrated
[16:40] <Eickmeyer> Same, tbh. I'm going to be having a chat with Josh.
[16:40] <sil2100> Thank you
[16:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntucinnamon-meta [source] (oracular-proposed) [24.10.1]
[17:14] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: If we can't get ahold of the Ubuntu Unity folks, it might be a no-go as well. Same situation as Ubuntu MATE in that it's a severe graphical bug with the lightdm greeter.
[17:20] <Eickmeyer> Pinged Rudra on Telegram. We'll see what happens.
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ipu6-drivers [source] (noble-proposed) [0~git202406240945.aecec2aa-0ubuntu2~24.04.2]
[17:49] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-release: done with all the mandatory tests on Ubuntu Unity and all but one fail. Unfortunately it's bug 2081302 which is a graphical crash loop in the lightdm greeter Ubuntu Unity and Ubuntu MATE are both using. I'm unable to raise rs20096 on Telegram to get any answers which means both flavors are in the same boat.
[17:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Bug 2081302 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Graphical crash loop on fresh installation" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2081302
[17:49] <utkarsh2102> Eickmeyer: hey, thank you so much!
[17:50] <utkarsh2102> yes, Unity has to drop in that case
[17:50] <utkarsh2102> that's a release blocker, in my opinion
[17:50] <Eickmeyer> Agreed.
[17:50] <Eickmeyer> Honestly, IMO, this is what happens when you're not focusing on and testing your daily images.
[17:51] <utkarsh2102> YES!
[17:59] <Eickmeyer> Wimpy is typing in Matrix.
[18:07] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: ^
[18:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected initramfs-tools [source] (noble-proposed) [0.142ubuntu25.3]
[18:32] <utkarsh2102> hmm
[18:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: initramfs-tools (noble-proposed/main) [0.142ubuntu25.2 => 0.142ubuntu25.3] (core, i386-whitelist)
[18:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (oracular-proposed/main) [24.10.19 => 24.10.20] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sundials (oracular-proposed/universe) [7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp1 => 7.1.1+dfsg1-1exp2] (no packageset) (sync)
[18:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (noble-proposed) [0.142ubuntu25.3]
[19:28] <utkarsh18> web.libera.chat could be so annoying sometimes
[19:28] <utkarsh18> but oh well
[19:29] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh18: Indeed. You need a bouncer or something.
[19:29] <utkarsh18> yes
[19:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-inflect (oracular-proposed/main) [7.3.1-1 => 7.3.1-2] (i386-whitelist) (sync)
[19:58] <utkarsh18> i'm going to accept this^ once Beta is out
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[20:09] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh18: Are we respinning cinnamon for testing any time soon?
[20:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: valkey (oracular-proposed/universe) [7.2.5+dfsg1-2ubuntu3 => 7.2.5+dfsg1-2ubuntu4] (no packageset)
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh18: So, the lightdm issue is a compatibility issue with the systemd version and the Arctica greeter, which is forked from the Unity greeter in lightdm. It's related to this: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/32509
[20:25] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Issue 32509 in systemd/systemd "logind `CanGraphical` state change only after DRM driver init" [Open]
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> Switching both Unity and MATE to lightdm-gtk-greeteras a temporary workaround would fix both.
[20:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted valkey [source] (oracular-proposed) [7.2.5+dfsg1-2ubuntu4]
[20:26] <Eickmeyer> Cinnamon will likely be unaffected as it uses lightdm-gtk-greeter.
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> Related: https://github.com/canonical/lightdm/pull/340
[20:27] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Pull 340 in canonical/lightdm "LightDM failsafe handler and restart directives" [Merged]
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> Not a fix, but drops to failsafe shell.
[20:28] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: ^ in case we lost utkarsh18 again (scrollback a few)
[20:29] <utkarsh18> no no
[20:29] <utkarsh18> i can see
[20:29] <Eickmeyer> Oh, ok. Was unaware. This is all per Wimpy on Matrix.
[20:29] <Eickmeyer> He did a lot of investigating.
[20:33] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh18: He says he can replace the Arctica greeter with the GTK greeter, but he's traveling with his family this evening so he's not able to do that now. What's the call?
[20:35] <Eickmeyer> I might be able to do it (I'm technically on the MATE team for instances like this), but it has to be a quick fix.
[20:36] <Eickmeyer> Also, I'm aware of the extreme time crunch.
[20:36] <utkarsh18> ok, if you're down, perhaps :)
[20:37] <Eickmeyer> Ok, I asked him where the change needs to happen, because I'm not 100% sure if a config needs to change as well as a seed change, because unless it's a quick fix I'm not too comfortable.
[20:37] <utkarsh18> ok, gimme a moment - i'll get back!
[20:46] <utkarsh18> Eickmeyer: ok, I need to have a conversation about unity and MATE
[20:46] <utkarsh18> I am willing to give them a shot IFF
[20:46] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh18: Ack. We're coordinating on Matrix for MATE, but I've got nothing for Unity.
[20:47] <utkarsh18> - we're able to fix the problem today
[20:47] <utkarsh18> - i am happy to work with you and Wimpy and others over the weekend to unblock the package and trigger the build.
[20:47] <utkarsh18> - you or/and Wimpy are able to test the image COMPLETELY
[20:47] <utkarsh18> Eickmeyer: you mentioned that Unity would be fixed by that when you were testing the Unity image. Is that correct?
[20:48] <utkarsh18> we need to take a call now so that I can send out the announcement accordingly.
[20:48] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh18: It's a little more complicated because I'm not sure if a gschema override would have to be switched-out as well, unfortunately. So, I'm not sure about Unity, but I have guidance on MATE.
[20:48] <utkarsh18> Eickmeyer: are you able to commit to the above?
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[20:49] <Eickmeyer> I'm able to commit to MATE, but not to Unity.
[20:49] <utkarsh2102> understood
[20:49] <utkarsh2102> rs20096: last call for Unity.
[20:49] <utkarsh2102> i'm sorry but if it's dropped from Beta, it's dropped altogether.
[20:50] <jbicha> utkarsh2102: are you thinking of doing a split release with many flavours released today and stragglers on Monday?
[20:50] <utkarsh2102> yes
[20:50] <utkarsh2102> others have been released - announcement is due.
[20:50] <utkarsh2102> cinnamon, unity, MATE are left
[20:51] <Eickmeyer> rs20096 hasn't even looked at my message on Telegram.
[20:51] <utkarsh2102> ubuntucinnamon-meta has migrated; I will re-spin that soon
[20:51] <Eickmeyer> 👍
[20:51] <utkarsh2102> $ rmadison -u ubuntu ubuntucinnamon-meta
[20:51] <utkarsh2102>  ubuntucinnamon-meta | 24.04.4 | noble/universe    | source
[20:51] <utkarsh2102>  ubuntucinnamon-meta | 24.10.1 | oracular/universe | source
[20:51] <utkarsh2102> ok, respining
[20:52] <utkarsh2102> done
[20:52] <utkarsh2102> rebuilding now..
[20:53] <utkarsh2102> Eickmeyer: are you and Joshua okay to keep an eye on it and test it when it's ready for testing?
[20:53] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: Yes
[20:53] <utkarsh2102> ok, can you @ me here AND on Matrix when you're done with testing?
[20:54] <Eickmeyer> I sure can.
[20:54] <utkarsh2102> thank you v much!
[20:54] <Eickmeyer> I'm watching the build now.
[20:54] <utkarsh2102> lovely
[20:54] <utkarsh2102> ideally let ubuntu-release know so that someone can release it
[20:54] <utkarsh2102> ginggs, sil2100: are you able to release cinnamon post-testing today?
[20:55] <sil2100> Sure
[20:55] <utkarsh2102> thank you!
[20:59] <sil2100> Eickmeyer: thank you for your support, as always!
[21:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-mate-settings (noble-proposed/universe) [24.04.4 => 24.10.1] (ubuntu-mate)
[21:06] <utkarsh2102> !cookie | Eickmeyer
[21:06] <ubottu> Eickmeyer: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[21:06] <Eickmeyer> Quite welcome. Job's not done, nor is it ever.
[21:07] <Eickmeyer> New meta for MATE incoming as well as those settings.
[21:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-inflect [sync] (oracular-proposed) [7.3.1-2]
[21:10] <sil2100> Do we know if Unity will be able to get sorted out as well?
[21:11] <sil2100> aka. testing-wise etc.
[21:11] <utkarsh2102> no comms on that yet
[21:11] <utkarsh2102> Eickmeyer can second that^
[21:11] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: What utkarsh2102 said. I can't get ahold of rs20096 at all.
[21:12] <Eickmeyer> I also don't know who the backup(s) is/are.
[21:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ocaml-ca-certs (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1build3 => 1.0.0-1build4] (no packageset)
[21:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-mate-meta (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.298 => 1.299] (ubuntu-mate)
[21:13] <utkarsh2102> looking at ubuntu-mate-meta
[21:13] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: it has a lot of refreshes anyhow. Somewhat neglected.
[21:14] <Eickmeyer> Germinate went to town.
[21:14] <utkarsh2102> is it possible to just keep the ones we need?
[21:14] <utkarsh2102> I want this to be a very targeted fix
[21:14] <utkarsh2102> and we can follow up with a proper fix post Beta?
[21:14] <utkarsh2102> looking at the diff though
[21:14] <Eickmeyer> I mean... That would be nice but that isn't the way updateworks because it generates from the seed.
[21:15] <utkarsh2102> yes
[21:15] <utkarsh2102> but
[21:15] <utkarsh2102> ugh
[21:15] <utkarsh2102> sil2100: can you look?
[21:15] <utkarsh2102> I can send out the announcement meanwhile..
[21:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ocaml-ca-certs [source] (oracular-proposed) [1.0.0-1build4]
[21:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openssl (oracular-proposed/main) [3.3.1-2ubuntu1 => 3.3.1-2ubuntu2] (core, i386-whitelist)
[21:16] <Eickmeyer> Steve has always been pretty adamant in the past that update always gets run with a seed update unless that seed doesn't affect metas.
[21:18] <utkarsh2102> +  * Removed dmraid from live
[21:18] <utkarsh2102> +  * Removed printer-driver-gutenprint from core-recommends [armhf],
[21:18] <utkarsh2102> +    desktop-recommends [armhf]
[21:19] <utkarsh2102> that gives me a little nervousness
[21:19] <utkarsh2102> but I'll let sil2100 make the executive call
[21:20] <sil2100> Looking
[21:20] <Eickmeyer> I'm fairly certain that's because those packages no longer exist on that arch, hence germinate decided to yeet them. Happened earlier in the cycle. Last time this meta was updated was in July.
[21:20] <utkarsh2102> vorlon: how did you miss the ubuntu-mate-meta update? :)
[21:20] <utkarsh2102> I thought you did for all the flavours?
[21:21] <sil2100> Looks okay, unfortunate, but it looks like the meta wasn't updated since July
[21:22] <sil2100> Let's get that in
[21:22] <sil2100> Should I accept and unblock?
[21:23] <Eickmeyer> Same fix also needs ubuntu-mate-settings that I uploaded for the gsettings-override for the greeter.
[21:25] <sil2100> Accepting -meta
[21:26] <utkarsh2102> please unblock, too
[21:26] <utkarsh2102> yes
[21:27] <sil2100> Eickmeyer: you mean you also need to do a ubuntu-mate-settings upload? Since I see nothing inthe queue
[21:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-mate-meta [source] (oracular-proposed) [1.299]
[21:27] <Eickmeyer> Ope, reject from noble. Uploaded to wrong queue. 😅
[21:28] <utkarsh2102> lmao
[21:28] <utkarsh2102> done
[21:28] <utkarsh2102> oof, reject failed
[21:29] <utkarsh2102> as it should
[21:29] <utkarsh2102> sil2100: i'll let you rejecti t
[21:29] <vorlon> utkarsh2102: well I did enumerate all the metas that I looped over so if I missed one it was in my report
[21:29] <utkarsh2102> kdokey, it's fine
[21:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-mate-settings (oracular-proposed/universe) [24.04.4 => 24.10.1] (ubuntu-mate)
[21:29] <Eickmeyer> There it is. ^
[21:30] <utkarsh2102> looking
[21:30] <utkarsh2102> is that a tested fix? :)
[21:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-mate-settings [source] (noble-proposed) [24.10.1]
[21:31] <Eickmeyer> So, here's the story. It's the greeter they used before the one that's failing. It's the code that was used before with the new theming. The greeter they used before (slick greeter) is used in Budgie and is not failing.
[21:31] <Eickmeyer> So, it's tested by Budgie. It was historically tested. The theming is also tested but not with slick greeter.
[21:32] <Eickmeyer> Worst that can happen is it'll just look ugly.
[21:33] <utkarsh2102> sil2100: please take a call again :)
[21:33] <Eickmeyer> lol
[21:33] <utkarsh2102> i'm inclined towards accepting
[21:33] <utkarsh2102> but it's 3 AM here
[21:34] <utkarsh2102> and I am not willing to make calls unless I have to
[21:34] <utkarsh2102> hehe
[21:34] <vorlon> utkarsh2102: well in fact what I wrote was "kubuntu, ubuntukylin, ubuntu-mate uploaded, there were changes, now sitting in unapproved queue"
[21:35] <utkarsh2102> hehe
[21:35] <Eickmeyer> I literally copy/pasted it from their old slick greeter theme and adapted it for their new Yaru theme from their Ambient theme.
[21:35] <utkarsh2102> vorlon: were you trying to lie to me? :)
[21:35] <utkarsh2102> were you, were you?
[21:35] <utkarsh2102> hehe
[21:35] <sil2100> hm, I think this is fine, although a bit of a bigger change for Friday Beta'ing. One thing though: this does seem to break UI freeze, am I correct?
[21:35] <utkarsh2102> anyway, please don't respond to this; you have better & important things to do; enjoy your Friday and weekend! o/
[21:35] <sil2100> Since it will look differently now?
[21:36] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: Considering the previous UI *didn't work at all* I don't think it breaks UI freeze.
[21:36] <sil2100> hm, touche'
[21:37] <sil2100> If it was broken for the whole oracular cycle, okay
[21:37] <Eickmeyer> We don't know, nobody tested. Shrodinger's UI.
[21:38] <sil2100> Ok, accepting this as well, I'm curious to see how it'll look
[21:38] <Eickmeyer> Ok, I've got the new Cinnamon spin, testing.
[21:39] <utkarsh2102> yay
[21:39] <vorlon> utkarsh2102: queuebot notification: 18-09-2024 19:49:40 < queuebot!~queuebot@ubuntu/bot/queuebot: Unapproved: ubuntu-mate-meta (oracular-proposed/universe) [1.298 => 1.299] (ubuntu-mate)
[21:39] <vorlon> :P
[21:39] <vorlon> I don't know where it went after that
[21:39] <utkarsh2102> Eickmeyer: test this on priority please
[21:39] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: Literally running right now.
[21:39] <utkarsh2102> lovely
[21:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-mate-settings [source] (oracular-proposed) [24.10.1]
[21:39] <utkarsh2102> because if we lose sil2100 (if he EODs), we can't release cinnamon today :)
[21:41] <vorlon> utkarsh2102: I can be available on demand for button-pushing
[21:42] <utkarsh2102> lovely
[21:45] <Eickmeyer> Ugh, Cinnamon still has gnome-shell. I think the only fix is to remove gdm3 from the lighdm | gdm3 | x-display-managerline in cinnamon-core's control
[21:45] <Eickmeyer> (no idea who thought that was a good idea)
[21:46] <utkarsh2102> vorlon: hey! can you moderate a mail?
[21:46] <utkarsh2102> I can do that myself, too
[21:46] <utkarsh2102> but have a quick q
[21:47] <utkarsh2102> "Message Excerpt:" has only half part of mail; is that because it's _really_ an excerpt?
[21:47] <utkarsh2102> or did I miss something?
[21:47] <utkarsh2102> why can't I see the whole mail?
[21:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinnamon-desktop-environment (oracular-proposed/universe) [6.0.0ubuntu1 => 6.0.0ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[21:52] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102, sil2100, vorlon: ^ Removed gdm3 from the #&@# depends. If that doesn't work, I have no idea what will.
[22:07] <sil2100> Eickmeyer: wonder if this is what pulls it in or is there something else that we're missing
[22:07] <sil2100> I'll accept
[22:08] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: I'm not sure what germinate is thinking there. That said, I'd rather it not pull it in, but I think the Cinnamon team in Debian is mistaken in thinking gdm3 can stand alone (it cannot, it requires gnome-shell components in order to function).
[22:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cinnamon-desktop-environment [source] (oracular-proposed) [6.0.0ubuntu2]
[22:11] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: rdepends says that should be it. I just told Josh that he needs to test daily images throughout the cycle to prevent stuff like this from happening again.
[22:12] <sil2100> +1, thanks
[22:12] <sil2100> Anyway, I don't think we'll be able to release anything today anymore, let's re-visit the situation throughout the weekend and Monday
[22:16] <Eickmeyer> Sounds good.
[22:30] <utkarsh2102> another cinnamon rebuild then?
[22:30] <utkarsh2102> and mate
[22:31] <utkarsh2102> oh wow
[22:31] <utkarsh2102> so much fun
[22:31] <Eickmeyer> Party. 🎉
[22:34] <utkarsh2102> sil2100: can you please update the IRC topic?
[22:37] <utkarsh2102> sil2100: can you also post to Launchpad?
[22:37] <utkarsh2102> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2024-September/000306.html
[22:39] <utkarsh2102> or vorlon^
[22:39] <utkarsh2102> please update the IRC topics and post to Launchpad
[22:39] <utkarsh2102> I'm gonna call it a day
[22:39] <utkarsh2102> it's 4
[22:39] <Eickmeyer> Have a good morning/sleep, utkarsh2102! You've earned it.
[22:39] <utkarsh2102> hehe, thank you, you too, when the time comes ;)
[22:39] <Eickmeyer> 12 hours ahead of me, my gosh!
[22:40] <utkarsh2102> damn
[22:40] <utkarsh2102> Eickmeyer: over the weekend, if you can't ping me here, please ping me on Matrix and I can rebuild stuff for you.
[22:40] <Eickmeyer> utkarsh2102: Sounds good. Thanks!
[22:41] <utkarsh2102> as i see it, everything that you uploaded has been accepted and unblocked
[22:41] <utkarsh2102> so will wait for the publisher run to complete
[22:41] <utkarsh2102> which might take some time
[22:41] <utkarsh2102> so yes
[22:41] <utkarsh2102> see ya! \o
[22:41] <Eickmeyer> That's correct. I think vorlon said he'd be around for button pushing.
[22:41] <Eickmeyer> See ya! o/
[22:41] <utkarsh2102> hoping rs20096 magically shows up and take care of unity
[22:41] <utkarsh2102> :)
[22:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: phosh-osk-stub (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.41.1-1 => 0.42~rc1-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[22:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: architecture-properties (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.2.2 => 0.2.3] (no packageset) (sync)
[22:49] <sil2100> Posting to LP
[22:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted architecture-properties [sync] (oracular-proposed) [0.2.3]
[22:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted phosh-osk-stub [sync] (oracular-proposed) [0.42~rc1-1]
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[22:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: iotas (oracular-proposed/universe) [0.8.0+ds-1 => 0.9.0-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[22:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted iotas [sync] (oracular-proposed) [0.9.0-1]
[23:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (oracular-proposed/main) [24.4~3+really24.3.1-0ubuntu3 => 24.4~3+really24.3.1-0ubuntu4] (core)
[23:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (noble-proposed/main) [24.3.1-0ubuntu0~24.04.1 => 24.3.1-0ubuntu0~24.04.2] (core)