| luna_work | morning | 08:11 |
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| === sdeziel_ is now known as sdeziel | ||
| teward | sdeziel: you around? | 18:10 |
| sdeziel | teward: I am | 18:10 |
| teward | sdeziel: regarding bug #2081308 that sounds more like a problem with policy-rc.d or some other issue than the nginx package but you know more about policy-rc.d than I do, is this an nginx bug or a user-has-failed situation? | 18:11 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-server- Bug 2081308 in nginx (Ubuntu) "open() '/etc/nginx/nginx.conf' failed (2: No such file or directory)" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2081308 | 18:11 | |
| teward | because it looks like their issue is they're changing policy-rc.d and it's breaking rather than an actual nginx package issue | 18:11 |
| sdeziel | teward: that's a good question. I find the error report (missing `nginx.conf`) weird. How is that file's existence tied to the service starting or not is what I couldn' | 18:12 |
| sdeziel | t figure | 18:12 |
| teward | I know that bryyce has a request to include /etc/nginx/nginx.conf in the apport hooks, but that error sounds more like whatever underlying code is executed during setup is busted. There is a note in Debian right now that `nginx` doesn't predepend on nginx-common which COULD suggest they somehow installed `nginx` without `nginx-common` | 18:13 |
| teward | i'm going to set up a VM and see if i can replicate their complaint | 18:14 |
| teward | but i'm not 100% sure what 'file' they created in policy-rc.d | 18:14 |
| teward | sdeziel: wanted to get your POV before I start deep diving :p | 18:14 |
| teward | because this sounds like user has broken something xD | 18:14 |
| sdeziel | `/etc/nginx/nginx.conf.dpkg-new` is the only config I find when using a `exit 0` policy | 18:15 |
| teward | it SOUNDS like whatever is being done in policy-rc.d is not changing the .dpkg-new config to a normal nginx.conf when nginx.conf doesn't exist | 18:16 |
| teward | but that sounds more like a policy-rc.d problem than nginx | 18:16 |
| sdeziel | teward: for a reproducer: `lxc launch ubuntu-minimal-daily:24.04 n1` then `lxc exec n1 -- sh -c 'apt-get update -qq && echo exit 0 > /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d && chmod +x /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d && apt-get install -y nginx'` | 18:16 |
| teward | *sips coffee* | 18:16 |
| teward | sdeziel: stuck on a Windows system right now so gonna just spin from the 24.04 ISO in VMware | 18:16 |
| teward | i'm at work so i don't have my default linux build >.> | 18:17 |
| sdeziel | yeah, that's also my understanding so far hence me asking why `exit 0` was used instead of the more common (to me at least) `exit 101` | 18:17 |
| teward | sdeziel: it looks like they may be going off 2013 spec / documentation | 18:18 |
| teward | so it's quite possible things changed since then. They're quoting Debian specs, that may not apply to Ubuntu | 18:18 |
| teward | not sure if you saw their latest reply on that one | 18:18 |
| teward | but figured before I deep dive into this being an nginx problem I was going to poke to get your POV | 18:19 |
| teward | (and forgive me for setting it Incomplete, that's just me triaging xD) | 18:19 |
| sdeziel | teward: I just found something interesting, with `0`, it fails at `invoke-rc.d --quiet nginx status` during postinst | 18:21 |
| sdeziel | which feels like user-inflicted issue :) | 18:21 |
| teward | that sounds like an invoke-rc.d bug then | 18:21 |
| teward | sdeziel: the vast majority of bugs I see filed are problems with other packages or user configurations on end systems | 18:21 |
| teward | so this is either invoke-rc.d being broke or something else, but I don't think it's an nginx bug or we'd see it in a lot of other cases. | 18:22 |
| sdeziel | teward: in that case, it seems the failure to be that `invoke-rc.d --quiet nginx status` tries to call the systemd service which then fails due to the `ExecStartPre` trying to validate the config while it's not there yet | 18:22 |
| teward | sdeziel: this sounds like the debian bug i mentioend 1 momnet | 18:23 |
| teward | ffs i can't type | 18:23 |
| teward | 1 moment while I dig | 18:23 |
| teward | #LotsOfEmail | 18:23 |
| teward | was this under 24.04? | 18:23 |
| teward | yes it is | 18:24 |
| sdeziel | 24.04, yes | 18:24 |
| teward | wish people used ubuntu-bug to get the apport hooks triggering too | 18:24 |
| teward | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1082373 | 18:24 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-server- Debian bug 1082373 in nginx "nginx: nginx missing pre-depends on nginx-common" [Important, Open] | 18:24 | |
| teward | this is new from today, suggesting 1.26.0 doesn't predepend on nginx-common and *can* trigger a case where the config doesn't exist | 18:24 |
| teward | i think in Debian this is a side effect of the change to the package | 18:24 |
| teward | but it may be related. | 18:25 |
| gmachine24 | Hi running Ubuntu Server LTS 22.04.05 - my networking suddenly stopped working in the middle of the night last night - not sure of the time. I cannot connect to the Internet and networking software seems to have disappeared. Here's more: https://pastebin.com/QPvRTZ1t | 20:09 |
| gmachine24 | Thank you in advance. | 20:09 |
| tomreyn | gmachine24: ubuntu server (unlike desktop) defaults to netplan and systemd-networkd for network management | 20:15 |
| tomreyn | you can also use the "ip" command to configure and bring uo network interfaces | 20:17 |
| gmachine24 | Any idea how/why this happens? | 20:19 |
| gmachine24 | Also, as an aside, I'm being offered the upgrade to the latest version of ubuntu server - I don't normally rush into doing this. | 20:21 |
| tomreyn | network interfaces don't go down by themselves normally. you will need to have system level access to review the logs to find out what happened. | 20:22 |
| gmachine24 | Of course. Well - something changed and I again have network connectivity. | 20:23 |
| gmachine24 | But I'll check the logs. | 20:23 |
| gmachine24 | Thank you for your time. | 20:23 |
| tomreyn | in the best case it was just an outage at your remote servers' network connectivity provider | 20:23 |
| tomreyn | which http://status.THATORGANISATION.TLD would possibly be telling you about | 20:25 |
| gmachine24 | I was just thinking something like that - it could have been a brief power outage. I live in a place with many electrical storms and occasional short-lived surges and grid failures. | 20:25 |
| tomreyn | that's what montiroing services are good for - at least you'll know what went down | 20:27 |
| tomreyn | network/service availability monitoring, i mean | 20:27 |
| gmachine24 | yeah | 20:28 |
| gmachine24 | it's so frustrating when you wake up and you think a job will be done and not only is the job not finished but there are more problems | 20:29 |
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