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| justinmburrous | Folks, looking for some guidance on debugging an issue with an external monitor NOT turning off it's back light when my screen blanks on Ubuntu 24 (and 22). It's a dual boot machine with Win11 and I have no issues on that side. I have trues a few different settings | 01:01 |
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| sarnold | justinmburrous: there's a bunch of different ways you can turn a monitor off; if you run 'xset q' you can see the current settings. 'xset dpms' can be used to try a few different types | 01:04 |
| sarnold | justinmburrous: some monitors have busted edid data in them, there's ways to fake that, but I don't know that off the top of my head, and I've got to run .. | 01:05 |
| sarnold | justinmburrous: (I'm not sure if that'd actually influence this or not, but it feels plausible) | 01:05 |
| sarnold | justinmburrous: good luck :) | 01:05 |
| LuckyMan | and of course you can turn it off in the button | 01:05 |
| LuckyMan | meanwhile | 01:05 |
| justinmburrous | Thanks, I have looked at that a bit (and the off button, can confirm that works :)). Seems like "DPMS is Enabled" says `xset q`. Trying `xset dpms force standby` and or `xset dpms force off` (with sleep 1; first) "work" in that the actual screen goes black, but the backlight itself stays on. Got any next steps tips having tried that? | 01:08 |
| Elw3 | Do you access to the actual brightness of this screen? Might be blank and backlight are seen as different devices and it sets the wrong | 01:24 |
| Elw3 | I usually see the oposing scenario btw, many devices turn the backlight of but keep the screen running. | 01:26 |
| justinmburrous | That's an interesting theory, what would I check here for that on the ubuntu side of things? Trying to find brightness controls here. FWIW I have also seen opposite situations in my searches, hard to find this _exact_ issue on a desktop so far. | 01:28 |
| Elw3 | Desktop monitors normally dont expose brightness settings so its not normally considered something to activate by the os. But in theory, depending on your wm, you can load an icon for screen brightness and it should find it | 01:31 |
| DumbLDoor | Hello all! | 01:32 |
| DumbLDoor | can I ask an app related question here, kodi to be precise? | 01:32 |
| Elw3 | else, /sys/class/ usually has these sliders as files | 01:32 |
| Elw3 | so if /backlight there has entries for example | 01:33 |
| justinmburrous | Elw3 that's empty in my case it seems | 01:34 |
| rbox | !ask | DumbLDoor | 01:35 |
| ubottu | DumbLDoor: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 01:35 |
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| Elw3 | then its likely the wrong idea any you have to deal with sending signals... | 01:35 |
| DumbLDoor | @rbox ty. apt install gets 20.5 and not the latest 21.1 omega from the specified kodi repository | 01:36 |
| DumbLDoor | @rbox - I don't want to use flatpak | 01:36 |
| rbox | okay? | 01:37 |
| Elw3 | What is the question here? | 01:37 |
| rbox | what do you mean "the specified repository" | 01:37 |
| DumbLDoor | @rbox - the ppa:team-xbmc/ppa rep. | 01:38 |
| rbox | how did you enable it, what version of ubuntu are you suing, what commmand are you typihg to install it | 01:39 |
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| DumbLDoor | @rbox - add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa and then update and apt install kodi | 01:41 |
| DumbLDoor | @rbox - Ubuntu 24.04 | 01:42 |
| rbox | a) that repo doesn't appear to support 24.04 b) what makes you think 21.1 is even in there? | 01:47 |
| DumbLDoor | @rbox - So, flatpak is the only alternative then? | 01:50 |
| rbox | well its not in that repo... | 01:50 |
| DumbLDoor | @rbox - i get it. ty | 01:51 |
| DumbLDoor | Can I build it from source code or can i get a .deb file from somewhere? | 01:51 |
| rbox | if its open source sure you can build it | 01:52 |
| rbox | you would have to search to see if there was a deb | 01:52 |
| DumbLDoor | @rbox - ty, it is open source and available on github. i will look for the deb | 01:55 |
| DumbLDoor | @rbox - ty again, take care! | 01:55 |
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| tsurugi | anyone | 05:40 |
| tsurugi | ???? | 05:40 |
| tsurugi | hy | 05:41 |
| gordonjcp | in 24.04 it takes forever to open a terminal | 06:31 |
| gordonjcp | I press the menu key, type "term", it autocompletes to Terminal, then it takes anything up to about 90 seconds to start up | 06:32 |
| gordonjcp | is this normal? | 06:32 |
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| luna_work | morning | 08:11 |
| zetheroo | The year is 2024 AD, and Ubuntu still has no way to configure the login screen (especially the resolution) in the system settings. | 08:15 |
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| acarlucci | Greetings, all. Is there a good reason Lunar doesn’t exist in the old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists directory? I went to perform an old dist upgrade and believe it’s absence is preventing the process. | 11:00 |
| alumati | hola | 11:03 |
| ravage | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lunar/ | 11:03 |
| alumati_ | a | 11:04 |
| alumati | guapo | 11:04 |
| alumati | vaya chat | 11:04 |
| lotuspsychje | !es | alumati | 11:04 |
| ubottu | alumati: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 11:04 |
| alumati | ok | 11:05 |
| alumati | sorry :( | 11:05 |
| alumati | suck my dick heheheheh | 11:05 |
| acarlucci | Thanks ravage — would you say it is ok to use that for performing a distribution upgrade, according to these instructions? | 11:06 |
| acarlucci | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 11:06 |
| ravage | yes but you can skip the sources change | 11:07 |
| acarlucci | If I don’t need to update the sources.list file to change the domains to archive.ubuntu.com, then you’re implying I just need to use the version-specific downloader? | 11:13 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:14 |
| acarlucci | *installer, not downloader… | 11:17 |
| ravage | get the upgrade tool and run it basically | 11:18 |
| acarlucci | ravage thanks a ton. I’ll try that out. Have a good one. | 11:18 |
| ravage | should be http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/mantic-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/mantic.tar.gz in your case | 11:19 |
| ravage | keep in mind thats already EOL too | 11:20 |
| ravage | so you need to keep updating | 11:20 |
| ravage | maybe a fresh install of 24.04 is the best way really | 11:21 |
| mgedmin | acarlucci: I would try my luck with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades, following all the steps (starting with sources.list edit to change archive -> old-releases) | 11:26 |
| mgedmin | you'll have to upgrade twice (23.04 -> 23.10 -> 24.04) | 11:26 |
| acarlucci | @mgdmin I did try that - and that’s where my initial question comes from. Lunar is missing from the old-releases.ubuntu.com registry. I find that odd. | 11:26 |
| mgedmin | I've successfully used the EOLUpgrades procedure in the past, but I've never tried manually downloading dist-upgrader-all/.../$codename.tar.gz and running it, I've always used sudo do-release-upgrade | 11:27 |
| mgedmin | wait, what? wow | 11:27 |
| acarlucci | Yeah… it’s a little concerning, hence I traveled here to ask. | 11:27 |
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| geirha | Not so much missing as just not having been moved to old-releases yet | 12:33 |
| bobo_ | Hello peoples! I came here looking for help on my Linux Mint Cinnamon 22 and Soundblaster Z SE drivers. has anyone got experience with this? | 13:26 |
| leftyfb | !mint | bobo_ | 13:27 |
| ubottu | bobo_: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/ | 13:27 |
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| mjd | Hi folks. I tried upgrading my laptop to noble yesterday and it went badly. X won't start and I can't get the network connected. Can someone help me? | 13:27 |
| tortillasandwich | In Ubuntu/kubuntu 24.04.5, how can someone set sample rate on a high end dac? Pulse audio no longer seems to be controlling it directly | 13:30 |
| leftyfb | tortillasandwich: there is no ubuntu 24.04.5 | 13:30 |
| tortillasandwich | My bad 24.04.1* | 13:32 |
| tortillasandwich | It looks like pipewire is now running but I cannot find it's default config anywhere in /etc/ | 13:34 |
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| yrlnry | I'm looking at the files in /etc/netplan and I see the one for the wifi network I want; it looks correct. But when I run `netplan apply` I get a very surprising message: `Failed to start NetworkManager.service: Unit NetworkManager.service not found". I looked in `/etc/systemd` and indeed there's no NetworkManager.service. How can I fix this? | 13:40 |
| tomtom- | Are there any tools for converting apt sources.list to .sources? Ubuntu does it automatically when upgrading to 24.04, but I found no documentation on how this is done? | 14:29 |
| mgedmin | poorly | 14:36 |
| mgedmin | the conversion tool drops [arch=amd64] and the resulting .sources makes apt update spew 404 errors | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | until you manually add Architectures: amd64 to the new .sources file | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | I should file a bug about this, once we figure out what tool is the one doing the conversion | 14:38 |
| tomtom- | That is true. I had that issue as well. | 14:40 |
| tomtom- | The reason I ask is because I installed a new package that automatically created a .list file and I wanted to convert it to .sources, but I didn't want to do it manually :P | 14:41 |
| ioria | tomtom-, i'am reading about a apt-manage tool from github (with the convert flag); but not it's clear to me how it works exactly | 14:52 |
| ioria | tomtom-, https://github.com/isantop/repolib/blob/master_nobuild/bin/apt-manage | 14:53 |
| JanC | mgedmin: what about other [options] ? | 15:02 |
| mgedmin | no idea, I don't think I've used any | 15:04 |
| tomtom- | ioria: I got an answer from a LLM to use apt-manage, but it does not seems to be an official tool. That is why I was wondering how it is done in the upgrade process. | 15:04 |
| mgedmin | I was very disappointed when I discovered that add-apt-repository -U ... -p ... -c ... creates .list, not .source files in 24.04 | 15:05 |
| mgedmin | (add-apt-repository ppa:... creates a .source) | 15:05 |
| JanC | I was thinking about options like 'signed-by' | 15:09 |
| JanC | removing those will probably break things | 15:10 |
| JanC | tomtom-: my guess would be it's either the release upgrade tool or a pre/post-install script in one of the APT packages? | 15:13 |
| ioria | tomtom-, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1518185/where-is-the-documentation-for-the-new-apt-sources-format-used-in-24-04 | 15:35 |
| * BlackDemon yawns. | 15:37 | |
| BlackDemon | Back in Ubuntu's safe graces. Almost lost my PC. | 15:37 |
| BlackDemon | Is there a way to install alternate color schemes on Ubuntu? I saw a GNOME rice and it was pretty sweet. | 16:29 |
| tomtom- | ioria: thanks, but it didn't really answer the question? | 17:34 |
| vortexx | lotuspsychje: are you around? I have a problem with my Sennheiser GSP 670 headset where the audio output cuts out after a minute and never comes back unless I unplug the dongle. This is in 24.04 and was working normally in 22.04, but 24.04 grew a Pulseaudio profile for it and problems started with that. I need to file a bug, I'm not sure how to report this properly | 18:00 |
| vortexx | (bluetooth headset) | 18:00 |
| uf6 | im getting tired of this. installed ubuntu server on raspberry pi, it boots and sshd is running. i can't login as raspberry/pi nor as ubuntu/ubuntu. ideas? | 18:06 |
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| toddc | UF6 did you set the user and passord during setup on rpi imager tool? https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-raspberry-pi#3-using-advanced-options | 18:17 |
| uf | no. i didn't. | 18:19 |
| BlackDemon | Wine is notoriously hard to set up in Ubuntu. | 18:19 |
| BlackDemon | Got it though. | 18:19 |
| gordonjcp | BlackDemon: not really | 18:19 |
| gordonjcp | "sudo apt install wine" generally does the trick | 18:20 |
| BlackDemon | I installed it through the winehq repository | 18:20 |
| BlackDemon | built it more or less | 18:20 |
| BlackDemon | you have to run "cp /usr/share/doc/wine-stable/examples/wine.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/" after doing it | 18:20 |
| gordonjcp | sounds like a lot of work, but okay | 18:20 |
| BlackDemon | then it appears | 18:20 |
| BlackDemon | gordonjcp: I do it to install the latest Wine version | 18:20 |
| gordonjcp | BlackDemon: that's just the desktop icon, which is often not what you need | 18:21 |
| BlackDemon | actually it makes it appear in the context menu | 18:21 |
| BlackDemon | when you right-click "open with" | 18:21 |
| gordonjcp | I think about the only thing I use Wine for is some software for the car, one for programming the gas conversion and one for programming the air suspension | 18:21 |
| BlackDemon | I use Wine because I don't use Steam anymore but have a few Windows exes on my thumb drive. | 18:22 |
| BlackDemon | Okay we're all cool. | 18:22 |
| BlackDemon | It's way easier to install Wine on Linux Mint, not gonna lie. | 18:22 |
| gordonjcp | easier in what way? | 18:22 |
| BlackDemon | it automatically appears | 18:22 |
| BlackDemon | it's the easiest on debian 12 oddly XD | 18:23 |
| BlackDemon | since there's a *dedicated* page to every little instruction | 18:23 |
| BlackDemon | copy paste, profit | 18:23 |
| tomreyn | It's as easy (to install, not configure) as sudo apt install wine on Ubuntu | 18:28 |
| shadowhawk2045 | hello guys | 18:28 |
| tomreyn | hello shadowhawk2045 | 18:28 |
| shadowhawk2045 | hey tomreyn | 18:29 |
| shadowhawk2045 | i have a pet project going on... | 18:29 |
| shadowhawk2045 | trying to run OSX 10.2 Jaguar on Ubuntu | 18:29 |
| shadowhawk2045 | but i dont know where to start! | 18:29 |
| gordonjcp | shadowhawk2045: there's a project on github that lets you run OSX in Docker using QEMU | 18:32 |
| tomreyn | shadowhawk2045: search the web for "hackintosh", you'll need to run it in a VM. i have not done so myself, and this channel is just concerned with supporting Ubuntu. There is probably some apple / mac os / hackintosh related channel somewhere on libera.chat, ask alis ("/msg alis help") about it. | 18:33 |
| shadowhawk2045 | im looking | 18:33 |
| shadowhawk2045 | and looking at this page you sent | 18:33 |
| shadowhawk2045 | OSX in Docker using QEMU looks to be | 18:34 |
| shadowhawk2045 | more recent versions | 18:34 |
| tomreyn | !bug | vortexx | 18:34 |
| ubottu | vortexx: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 18:34 |
| tomreyn | vortexx: this is how you could file it against ubuntu. if you'd like to file it upstream (against the pulseaudio project's bug tracker), you could re-post it there, too, referring to your ubuntu bug report, and then link your ubuntu bug report to the pulseaudio bug report. | 18:36 |
| tomreyn | (i'm assuming this is an issue in pulseaudio based on what you wrote) | 18:36 |
| vortexx | I'm assuming it is but I'm not 100% certain as I'm no audio in ubuntu expert | 18:37 |
| vortexx | I'll try the suggestions from the two of you, thank you | 18:38 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome, and note that ubottu is actually a bot | 18:40 |
| mosteiro | testing | 18:57 |
| Geronimo | hi | 19:11 |
| Geronimo | how may I update the snap store? | 19:11 |
| BlackDemon | sudo snap refresh | 19:19 |
| BlackDemon | ^ I believe | 19:19 |
| Geronimo | found it: sudo snap refresh snap-store | 19:36 |
| Geronimo | thanks | 19:36 |
| PheralSparky | eax_, tried installing the first driver so far, and it didn't work, its expecting something tablet thats not connected | 19:47 |
| PheralSparky | do those drivers support reg touch screens? | 19:47 |
| PheralSparky | I had to disable secure boot since the keys hackerai based on gpt4 walked me through didn't work | 19:48 |
| waveform | uf, on the ubuntu pi images, SSH password-based auth is now disabled by default. This can be changed by editing the user-data YAML file on the boot partition before first boot. You can also change the default password there (highly recommended if you're going to enable password-based SSH auth), or set SSH keys for import from github/launchpad | 20:06 |
| waveform | this is partly the security team's call (no password-based auth on first boot), but also a legislative call in some jurisdictions. For example, in several places in Europe it's no longer legal to ship an OS or hardware which is internet accessible with a default username+password on boot | 20:08 |
| enigma9o7 | How would that affect live iso, that autologin? | 20:12 |
| enigma9o7 | oh nvm, accessible from the interent you mean. understood. | 20:12 |
| gabrielv | Thank you for designing and creating Lubuntu, guys! You have brought usefulness into our lives! | 21:04 |
| PheralSparky | gabrielv, lubuntu has been around for nearly 20 years | 23:17 |
| leftyfb | 13 | 23:18 |
| enigma9o7 | yeah, that'll get you in trouble if you mix up 13 for 20 | 23:26 |
| shadowhawk2045 | hello | 23:46 |
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