| === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon | ||
| chase_ | hello everyone | 00:55 |
|---|---|---|
| chase_ | i need help using hexchat | 00:55 |
| bprompt | chase_: hmmm well, is not ubuntu per se, however, feel free to ask at #ubuntu-offtopic , join us over there :) | 00:59 |
| sarnold | why not #ubuntu? | 00:59 |
| sarnold | hexchat is still shipped in ubuntu, right? | 00:59 |
| chase_ | well i have linux int | 01:00 |
| kut | cause hexchat is offtopic to ubuntu | 01:00 |
| chase_ | mint | 01:00 |
| chase_ | ok sorry | 01:00 |
| sarnold | chase_: ah. then you'd probably be better served in a mint forum | 01:00 |
| kut | mints sound yum | 01:01 |
| bprompt | chase_: or join us at #ubuntu-offtopic | 01:01 |
| bprompt | chase_: mind you I'm running hexchat right now | 01:01 |
| kut | you hacker | 01:01 |
| kut | ;p | 01:01 |
| bprompt | sarnold: yes, hexchat is still shipped in 24.04 :) | 01:02 |
| sarnold | woot ;) it's not for me but i'm glad it's still working well enough to keep it around | 01:02 |
| QMac | #UOP_IRC | 01:33 |
| === hype_ is now known as hype | ||
| tomreyn | !info hexchat noble | 02:10 |
| ubottu | hexchat (2.16.2-1build2, noble): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Built by hexchat. Size 349 kB / 1,001 kB | 02:10 |
| === Douwd` is now known as Douwd | ||
| enigma9o7 | That version was released this year even. 2024-02-07. But noted in changelog it's final version. | 02:12 |
| enigma9o7 | https://hexchat.github.io/news/2.16.2.html fyi | 02:12 |
| enigma9o7 | Hopefully a new maintainer steps up, brings it into the future. | 02:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | plenty of other clients out there | 02:14 |
| NewtonTrendy | hi does anyone know permissions well i have ls -al "drwxr-xr-x 1 nominatim nominatim 0 Sep 24 02:44 nominatim-data" and i cant understand why im getting "bash: cd: /media/felix/Elements/nominatim-data: Permission denied" as nominatim user | 02:20 |
| NewtonTrendy | its a portable hard drive if that makes a difference | 02:21 |
| pragmaticenigma | NewtonTrendy: The drive is mounted as felix, for nominatim to access the portable drive, it would need to be mounted as nominatim, or you would need to setup the mount so that all users can access the device | 02:22 |
| NewtonTrendy | ok i dont know why i didnt clock that, thanks | 02:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | *mounted using nominatim's account | 02:22 |
| NewtonTrendy | i need to mount it for all users | 02:22 |
| NewtonTrendy | can i still hard symlink it? | 02:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | no, symlinks follow the permissions of the original object | 02:26 |
| NewtonTrendy | ok, thanks again | 02:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | you will have to setup an fstab entry ... but for that part, I'm not familiar with enough to guide you. hopefully someone can help you | 02:27 |
| NewtonTrendy | UUID=519CB82E5888AD0F /media/Data ntfs-3g defaults,windows_names,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 | 02:30 |
| kut | i used the app called disks, gtk-disks maybe? on phone now | 02:30 |
| NewtonTrendy | thanks kut :) | 02:31 |
| kut | im too lazy/slow for uuids | 02:31 |
| NewtonTrendy | sudo blkid | 02:31 |
| kut | i have a lot of harddrives attached | 02:32 |
| kut | all that ascii | 02:32 |
| luna_3 | Folks, somehow I have no spellcheck at all and I miss it. 22.04 ( I asked this a day ago and noone noticed. ) | 02:54 |
| luna_3 | Chihuahua I had to go to the google small mexican dog chiwawa and it answered! | 02:55 |
| === vincejv_ is now known as vincejv | ||
| tomreyn | luna_3: for which application? | 03:37 |
| tomreyn | have you tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/prefs-language-install.html.en | 03:38 |
| NewtonTrendy | I've noticed on dual screen with nvidia kernel i get the choose file dialog open half on the second screen and i cant move it. if i drag the app to the second screen it centers. how do i actually give the details needed to debug this? | 04:15 |
| enigma9o7 | maybe a video? | 04:20 |
| NewtonTrendy | https://fellowship.monster/dodgy_file_open.mp4 | 04:27 |
| gebbione | hello all | 04:50 |
| NewtonTrendy | hi | 04:50 |
| tomengland | 24.10 works well! is there a way to enable the tpm after install? | 04:50 |
| tomengland | i dunno how ubuntu did it but all the snap apps look sharp. and I'm on wayland. on other distros, it would look blurry without some ozone adjustment | 04:54 |
| Bashing-om | !next | tomengland | 04:54 |
| ubottu | tomengland: Oracular Oriole is the codename for Ubuntu 24.10. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. | 04:54 |
| tomengland | ahh thank you | 04:55 |
| NewtonTrendy | we're on 24.04 right? | 04:55 |
| Bashing-om | tomengland: :D | 04:55 |
| Bashing-om | NewtonTrendy: 24.04 is the latest release, yes. | 04:56 |
| NewtonTrendy | thanks | 04:56 |
| NewtonTrendy | kiwix seems to be very very buggy but it does run (freezing often) | 04:57 |
| NewtonTrendy | i decided to add a python zim library to my prepping archive just in case | 04:58 |
| === vincejv_ is now known as vincejv | ||
| gebbione | is anyone aware of a local config manager that would help setting up an OS after a fresh install? I could write my own set of ansible playbooks but interested in knowing if anyone had done it already | 05:35 |
| mgedmin | the closest I have is a shell script that does a dconf load for a bunch of settings | 05:37 |
| gebbione | i think i need to script something but it takes time | 05:44 |
| gebbione | but upgrading is painful too everytime | 05:45 |
| gebbione | so I might invest this time once hoping i can just re-install in the future instead of upgrading | 05:45 |
| mgedmin | https://xkcd.com/1205/ | 05:47 |
| === sweatiest_ is now known as sweatiest | ||
| === biapy4 is now known as biapy | ||
| irsyad | hello | 10:36 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:39 |
| === paran0n7 is now known as paran0n | ||
| === paul is now known as Guest7457 | ||
| josua1232 | hi there I have a ubuntu server I'd like to host a website, is there a way to tunnel out of a network and have it point to a domain ? | 14:23 |
| kk1234 | josua1232: cloudfare tunnel? it's free | 14:24 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | orly | 14:25 |
| kk1234 | afaik | 14:25 |
| pragmaticenigma | kk1234: that's not even close to what they're asking | 14:25 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | it's an alternative to what they're asking | 14:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | still have to get the server exposed to the Internet | 14:26 |
| kk1234 | pragmaticenigma: umm maybe, it's not clear | 14:26 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | not for inbound connectivity. isn't that the whole point? | 14:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | josua1232: You would need to configure the network gateway to allow access from the Internet, specifically for network port 80 and 443, to reach your server behind your network firewalls and gateway. | 14:27 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | or, instead of doing that, you could use cloudflare tunnel. | 14:27 |
| josua1232 | I have access with dyanmic dns but I want to use a domain I bought | 14:27 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | which might be especially relevant if you're behind NAT and don't have access to configure port forwarding. | 14:28 |
| josua1232 | sorry was not clear with my question | 14:28 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | okay, so then the TCP/IP connectivity is already there, you just want to address the "use dynamically-assigned IP with static DNS" problem? | 14:29 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | i solve that with a script that runs periodically to compare my WAN ip with my DNS A record, and if different, invokes my DNS host's api to update the A record. | 14:30 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | but that's brittle and annoying. | 14:30 |
| pragmaticenigma | NoImNotNineVolt: why not use ddclient? | 14:32 |
| josua1232 | I can't forward port 80 on my modem as my ISP blocks it for no proffesional accounts. | 14:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | josua1232: if I'm understanding the recommendation of cloudflare tunnel correctly, you do not need to port forward or change any settings on your modem/router. | 14:35 |
| pragmaticenigma | you install cloudflared client on your machine, it sets up a tunnel to cloudflare which forwards the requests to your webserver from their infrastructure. You would just need to configure your domain to point at cloudflare's gateway | 14:37 |
| pragmaticenigma | probably a much safer way to host a personal web server anyways | 14:39 |
| josua1232 | @pragmaticenigma thanks so much I was a little confused thay makes sense | 14:39 |
| josua1232 | will I be able to configure ssl or does that not change anything? | 14:40 |
| pragmaticenigma | if cloudflare tunnel is the direction you want to take, I think those are questions you'll have to seek out for yourself. I'm only guessing, but cloudflare can probably manage an SSL connection for you. | 14:43 |
| pragmaticenigma | josua1232: this is what others were referring to: https://www.cloudflare.com/products/tunnel/ | 14:43 |
| josua1232 | @pragmaticenigma ok thank you for your help | 14:47 |
| === msyke1 is now known as msyke | ||
| NoImNotNineVolt | i'd guess the https ssl/tls terminates at cloudflare, then the tunnel-based connectivity has its own encryption. | 15:24 |
| === EriC^^ is now known as Guest5783 | ||
| throwthecheese | How do I get it through Xorg's thick skull to add my stylus at STARTUP rather than upon proximity? Currently it does the latter and it's breaking the behavior of my screen rotator | 16:30 |
| throwthecheese | I've tried to hard-code the device into my system via a config file but xinput still doesn't list either the pen or the eraser part of the stylus at startup/login, just a stylus device at the keyboard section (FYI I have a Goodix touchscreen) | 16:32 |
| throwthecheese | ^ + Ubuntu 22.04.5 | 16:33 |
| tomreyn | i'm not sure it would work any different there, but maybe try wayland, too. | 16:34 |
| throwthecheese | Wayland doesn't have this issue but there is a really annoying unpatched bug in KWin that causes streaking/connected strokes on XWayland | 16:36 |
| throwthecheese | And unfortunately Krita is an X-only application at the moment | 16:37 |
| throwthecheese | Any way to hammer it through Xorg's head? | 16:38 |
| tomreyn | ah, you're on kde (Kubuntu?) then - that's also relevant to point out, i guess. but personally i would not know how to achieve what you're trying to do. maybe soemone else? | 16:41 |
| throwthecheese | KDE on a degnomed Ubuntu installation | 16:42 |
| pragmaticenigma | throwthecheese: that honestly puts your machine in a state that who knows what the problem is. Can you try it with a live image? | 16:43 |
| throwthecheese | I have a Kubuntu USB lying around although I suspect it will not be free of this annoyance | 16:46 |
| throwthecheese | brb | 16:46 |
| === throwthecheese|2 is now known as throwthecheese | ||
| throwthecheese | Just as I expected... my stylus also isn't recognized on the fly on the live USB | 16:52 |
| bappi | hi | 16:54 |
| pragmaticenigma | throwthecheese: everything I find online regarding a goodix interface, is that it requires some heavy system changes (but articles are from 2018.) Ubuntu 24.04 has been released, as well as Kubuntu 24.04. Kubuntu lists Krita as one of their flagship applications to receive updates this release. Kubuntu runs Xorg by default (or at least it has been.) The issue I feel with "I degnomed ubuntu" is it's vague and ripping out packages has the | 17:01 |
| pragmaticenigma | tendency to remove things that something else needs. I would start with Kubuntu, and work on a solve there. Not after ripping an existing install to shreds and trying to pathword it back together. I personally have never had luck switching desktop environments like that, I could always add another one, but trying to remove them always has left my machine in an unstable state. | 17:01 |
| throwthecheese | FYI I had XFCE as my daily driver before I degnomed my system and I had the same issue with my stylus not recognized instantly | 17:15 |
| throwthecheese | brb | 17:20 |
| === armel_ is now known as armel | ||
| throwthecheese | Back | 17:22 |
| === armel_ is now known as armel | ||
| AHDSAUHDSIDBCASH | HI | 17:25 |
| throwthecheese | The issue is that my device is not only not present at login/startup in my xinput output, it doesn't even have a path in /dev/input either | 17:25 |
| throwthecheese | Is there a way to get the device and Xinput entry for my stylus created at login instead of upon proximity? | 17:30 |
| === armel_ is now known as armel | ||
| throwthecheese | Disregard what I've said. There is indeed a device for my stylus but X only recognizes it upon proximity | 17:36 |
| === infogulch11 is now known as infogulch1 | ||
| Teridon | a while back I reinstalled snapd to fix an issue with chromium not running. I noticed that on the system on which I reinstalled snapd, the snap list is smaller than it was before. Is there a way to tell how those other snaps got installed previously? I never explicitly installed snaps like "core18"... https://bpa.st/EDIU6 | 18:08 |
| LuckyMan | Teridon, some snaps like core18 are needed by your other snaps | 18:10 |
| LuckyMan | they are ment to be there | 18:10 |
| LuckyMan | otherwise snaps would be much bigger | 18:10 |
| Teridon | yeah but how'd they get there (which snaps need core18)? are snaps installed as part of installing other packages via apt ? are there snaps that are part of the default Ubuntu desktop install? | 18:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | Teridon: yes, snaps can share resources or have dependencies on other snaps | 18:13 |
| Teridon | what about apt? if I "apt install chromium" does it install the snap? I didn't explicitly mean to use the snap for chromium | 18:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | Teridon: It is possible that the packages provided by apt would be snaps | 18:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | Teridon: and chromium is one of the applications that is installed as a snap even when installing packages using apt | 18:18 |
| LuckyMan | snaps are nice | 18:22 |
| LuckyMan | they are confined | 18:22 |
| LuckyMan | they dont mess with your computer | 18:22 |
| Teridon | luckyman: I'm not being paranoid. I'm trying to learn how Ubuntu works. | 18:25 |
| Teridon | e.g. I have no idea what program needs "gnome-46-2404" | 18:25 |
| Teridon | and I have no idea how to determine that | 18:25 |
| Teridon | Yes, I could just reinstall all the snaps that were there before, but I will have learned nothing | 18:25 |
| pragmaticenigma | core18, core20, core22 are Ubuntu cores, gnome-42 and gnome-46 are Gnome Desktop resources. Other snaps that you did install listed those as dependencies and thus were installed. This is the main reason for Ubuntu to push snaps. it allows developers to target those resources, instead of an entire operating system. So the application developer or maintainer doesn't have to wait for a library to become part of the primary OS. Instead they | 18:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | can reference a shared snap resource package and offer their latest version of their application regardless of the Ubuntu version installed. | 18:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | In other words, I could write an application that requires something available only for Ubuntu 24.04. But because of snaps, someone running Ubuntu 20.04 could also get the application running. | 18:29 |
| tomreyn | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1267967/how-can-i-determine-which-snaps-are-dependencies-and-which-are-manually-install | 18:29 |
| LuckyMan | the name core is just the base distribution they were developed for, so core24 is the latest Ubuntu LTS | 18:30 |
| Teridon | ah, ty -- "snap connections" is basically what I was looking for. Though, it still leaves me with the question of gnome-46; i.e. gnome-46 does not appear in my connections list | 18:33 |
| === Sidewyz1 is now known as Sidewyz | ||
| LuckyMan | Teridon if you want to dig, read the snaps documentation, or even learn how to do a snap, it's not that hard | 18:34 |
| thunder | hi folks. not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I noticed when doing `ls -al` of a directory that all the entries are showing as '-????????? ? ? ? ? ?' or equiv, and various "permission denied" errors, in spite of permissions being just fine. any idea what causes that, and how to correct it without loss of data? | 18:38 |
| Teridon | ty LuckyMan and pragmaticenigma -- I appreciate the explanations. | 18:38 |
| thunder | fyi, the os concerned is debian bookworm, but everyone in #debian seems to be asleep atm, so figured it couldn't hurt to ask here. | 18:38 |
| pragmaticenigma | !debian | thunder | 18:38 |
| ubottu | thunder: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! | 18:38 |
| thunder | indeed. which is why I figured you might be able to answer | 18:39 |
| nmee | Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 24.04 on a new Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 laptop. I have a strange issue in that it only boots if I have my external HDMI monitor plugged in. Both monitors work in that case. Without the external monitor, it hangs with a black screen right after entering my LVM encryption password. Any ideas why? | 18:39 |
| pragmaticenigma | thunder: This channel does not provide support Debian. Ubuntu is a fork nearly 20 years removed from the debian branch | 18:39 |
| thunder | okay. what would be the appropriate place to ask this question? it's probably not directly OS specific, but maybe a filesystem thing? | 18:40 |
| Teridon | thunder: #linux maybe. but that sounds like a permissions or IO error; e.g. see https://serverfault.com/questions/65616/question-marks-showing-in-ls-of-directory-io-errors-too | 18:42 |
| pragmaticenigma | thunder: when I see a line of ?'s in my file list, it usually indicates the storage device is lost or something is corrupted. | 18:42 |
| === Sidewyz1 is now known as Sidewyz | ||
| thunder | hmmm. this only occurs with one specific directory. everything else seems fine. I'll try #linux. | 18:44 |
| thunder | thanks for you help | 18:44 |
| === Juesto is now known as Juest | ||
| LuckyMan | nmee, do you have a nvidia card? | 19:09 |
| === Sidewyz1 is now known as Sidewyz | ||
| PheralSparky | so am 4 reinstalls in on the dell inspiron 16, and its just freezing during installs | 20:38 |
| PheralSparky | or rath 5-6 | 20:38 |
| PheralSparky | re-prepping install media on an sd card, to see if the usb drive is borked | 20:39 |
| bprompt | PheralSparky: w0t? | 20:44 |
| === antonispgs6 is now known as antonispgs | ||
| PheralSparky | installer froze again :( | 21:21 |
| PheralSparky | top of the keyboard is rather warm :( | 21:21 |
| sarnold | clean the junk out of your fans / heatsinks? | 21:24 |
| PheralSparky | just did, cleaned and repasted the new laptop's heatsink and dried thermal paste | 21:57 |
| sarnold | any luck? | 22:05 |
| PheralSparky | well it is cooling a lot better with ceramique 2, as expected, but it just froze during installing the system | 22:08 |
| sarnold | :( | 22:09 |
| PheralSparky | Im gonna try zeroing out the 512GB NVMe | 22:13 |
| mybalzitch | did you try the nvme command | 22:19 |
| mybalzitch | instead of just writing zeros via dd | 22:20 |
| bprompt | PheralSparky: so, what's the deal? the installer not working? what installation option are you using? are you making a new partition for the system? is it installing to an existing partition? UEFI? is the HDD formatted as GPT? how about an EFI partition, is it there? | 22:22 |
| PheralSparky | GPT of course, install starts, but stops when it gets to installing system | 22:27 |
| bprompt | PheralSparky: can you hmmm do a Live session before installing? just to see if it loads a live session at all, you can install from the live session btw, but you can also inspect stuff like your partitions, and do drive checks | 22:28 |
| bprompt | could be a bad installation usb stick too, or a bad iso download | 22:29 |
| PheralSparky | bprompt, of course, always been using that | 22:29 |
| PheralSparky | holy cow it actually finished this time | 23:40 |
| PheralSparky | no freezes, after redownloading iso, verifying checksum, and prepping drive | 23:41 |
| enigma9o7 | how did you prep the drive? | 23:42 |
| enigma9o7 | probably woulda made sense to verify checksum before re-downloading iso, since that would imply you already had it | 23:42 |
| bprompt | PheralSparky: aha!, then it was a corrupted iso :P | 23:48 |
| PheralSparky | rufus, copy set to dd as gpt format, and another laptop(my personal budgie laptop) as a control test, verified a bad usb drive | 23:48 |
| PheralSparky | at least it wasn't windows corrupting the drive setup | 23:49 |
| PheralSparky | but whats odd, I had a fresh iso on the laptop downloaded aswell | 23:49 |
| PheralSparky | bprompt, after updating the system and snaps, I changed scale to fractional at %125 for my moms taste, tried changing the cursor size in universal access, from default to large, and no change | 23:50 |
| PheralSparky | nto even after a restart | 23:50 |
| PheralSparky | is universal access in budgie broke? | 23:51 |
| bprompt | hmmm, I don't use Scaling myself | 23:51 |
| PheralSparky | crap :/ | 23:51 |
| PheralSparky | afk, gotta prep dinner | 23:52 |
| bprompt | PheralSparky: you could just change the screen resolution to a lower one, it has the effect of scaling components Up | 23:52 |
| === antonispgs2 is now known as antonispgs | ||
| bprompt | I've set scaling in windows for folks, it can be a bit of a pickle, dialog windows truncated atop or bottom, missing [OK] [Cancel] buttons, because of the truncation | 23:53 |
| bprompt | not saying is bad, but it has those caveats | 23:53 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!