| whiteda | My Lubuntu installation has quit om my Dell Inspiron desktop the computer won't boot. when booting wit Lubuntu on usb fdisk does not find /dev/sda. KDE Partition Manager says /dev/sda is -0B with no valid partition table found. | 00:03 |
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| whiteda | Is this something I can recover from? | 00:04 |
| whiteda | if not how do I wipe sda1 sot that no one else can extract data? | 00:05 |
| enigma9o7 | You could replace sda. | 00:05 |
| enigma9o7 | burn it with fire | 00:05 |
| whiteda | So data is gone? | 00:06 |
| enigma9o7 | if the fire is hot enough | 00:06 |
| tomreyn | whiteda: note that what's /dev/sda when you were booting your lubuntu installation is not neccessarily /dev/sda when you're booting from a usb stick | 00:06 |
| tomreyn | you can use the paths in /dev/disk/by-id/ to find the right disk | 00:07 |
| whiteda | tomreyn It is showing the right name ST1000DM003 | 00:08 |
| tomreyn | okay, i have not looked this up but this ssounds like an oooold 1 TB seagate HDD | 00:08 |
| whiteda | yes it is | 00:09 |
| tomreyn | and what you described so far sounds like it could well be a dying disk | 00:09 |
| tomreyn | meaning it's no longer properly readable, and most likely no longer writable either. trying to remove data off it is not likely to succeed at that point - IF this is what is happening. | 00:10 |
| whiteda | so not worth trying to partition or format to use again... | 00:10 |
| tomreyn | checking system logs and potentially running smartctl against the disk may confirm this story | 00:11 |
| whiteda | ok thanks | 00:11 |
| enigma9o7 | You could check its reported status. gsmartcontrol is a good gui for that... | 00:11 |
| tomreyn | right now we don't have enough information to declare your disk dead, it's just a somewhat likely scenario based on what you described. but there could be other reasons. | 00:12 |
| enigma9o7 | Replace it with SSD, you'll be happier anyway. | 00:12 |
| whiteda | it is an old box, think I will start over new | 00:13 |
| bprompt | whiteda: you never backed up? | 00:18 |
| whiteda | yes but not recently enough :-( I didnt lose significant stuff only a lot of emal history and some photos and a few documents | 00:23 |
| whiteda | next computer I will back up more often | 00:24 |
| whiteda | bye for now | 00:24 |
| tomreyn | the emails might still be stored on the server | 00:24 |
| bprompt | yeah, barely anyone today uses pop3 | 00:25 |
| tomreyn | right, everyone uses uucp and nntp nowadays | 00:26 |
| sarnold | tomreyn: every day I dream we're going to get usenet back | 00:33 |
| tomreyn | :) | 00:34 |
| Unit193 | I actually started using nntp just a couple years back, really handy to keep track of some mailing lists in alpine. | 00:41 |
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| sarnold | the endless stream of "adding $name to cc:" and "re-adding $name to cc:" | 00:57 |
| sarnold | .. and so on really makes me sad :( if they had all been on usenet in the first place .. *sniff* | 00:57 |
| webchat65 | Hello, I've recently installed Ubuntu as dual-boot with Windows. After running through setup, the EFI partition only had a few kb free, creating an annoying alert for every boot. I resized my partitions to give it another 100MB, but the error persists. Looking in gparted, the partition says Size 204MB, used 96MB, free 3KB. How is this possible, | 01:36 |
| webchat65 | what have I done wrong? | 01:36 |
| sarnold | webchat65: when you resized your partition, did you also resize the filesystem on the partition? | 01:46 |
| webchat65 | sarnold: Hmm, not specifically. That could be where I went wrong. | 01:47 |
| webchat65 | I am looking through Google results, I'm only seeing the instructions to resize the partition, not the filesystem. I don't have to completely reformat the filesystem, do I? I'm not sure how I'd regenerate the EFI data if that's required. | 01:50 |
| dTal | 1) you can totally resize FAT32 filesystems and gparted should be able to do it, 2) the EFI data is just files, you could just copy it off and back on again, it's only a hundred megs | 01:53 |
| dTal | (do not lose power during this process lol) | 01:53 |
| webchat65 | No kidding. | 01:55 |
| webchat65 | Opening gparted in my Ubuntu system, I unmounted the EFI partition and went to resize/move, but it shows the size as 204MB there, the size I want it to be. Is there some other submenu I should be looking under for resizing this? I'm assuming since I can unmount the partition it makes no difference between using Ubuntu and gparted live. | 01:55 |
| sarnold | hmm. is gparted showing the partition size or the filesystem size? I wish I knew these things better | 01:57 |
| webchat65 | Found it! | 01:59 |
| webchat65 | In Information it says: | 01:59 |
| webchat65 | "108.00 MiB of unallocated space within the partition. | 01:59 |
| webchat65 | To grow the file system to fill the partition, select the partition and choose the menu item: | 01:59 |
| webchat65 | Partition --> Check." | 01:59 |
| webchat65 | I tried that operation, but it fails. "libparted messages > GNU Parted cannot resize this partition to this size. We're working on it!" | 02:00 |
| webchat65 | Seems to be a known bug, there's a workaround. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649324#c4 | 02:02 |
| webchat65 | Thank you for your help sarnold :) | 02:02 |
| sarnold | oh yay! but also boo, "reformat it to an unnecessary filesystem" isn't great .. heh | 02:03 |
| webchat65 | The fact that no one's fixed that in over 8 years is pretty crazy | 02:03 |
| sarnold | yeah :/ | 02:03 |
| sarnold | I guess it's not very common, usually these things are fine with 100-ish megs | 02:04 |
| webchat65 | yeaaaahhh. Oh well, I'll decide if it's worth the hassle later. | 02:04 |
| webchat65 | I'm outta here. Have a great day! | 02:04 |
| sarnold | this might be easier / faster https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/man1/fatresize.1.html -- but definitely make a backup :) | 02:04 |
| sarnold | bye webchat65, thanks for the link | 02:04 |
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| Thermoriax | Hmm, anyone have any suggestions for why my shell suddenly thinks I'm in UTC? The timezone in settings is correct, and the clock in my panel shows the correct time, but 'date' thinks I'm in UTC. | 10:12 |
| mgedmin | Thermoriax: echo $TZ? | 10:16 |
| Thermoriax | That was the first thing I tried. It's set correctly. | 10:17 |
| Thermoriax | It says /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern, but things like 'date', timestamps in my IRC client, etc are all showing UTC. | 10:18 |
| mgedmin | that does not look like the right format for the TZ environment variable | 10:18 |
| mgedmin | so date fails to find /usr/share/zoneinfo/usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern and falls back to UTC | 10:18 |
| mgedmin | try export TZ=US/Eastern | 10:18 |
| Thermoriax | That's what I've been using for years and it worked fine. But ok. | 10:18 |
| mgedmin | hm you're right, it works for me if I try setting TZ to the full path | 10:19 |
| mgedmin | check with debsums if the file got corrupted? | 10:19 |
| mgedmin | do you have the tzdata-legacy package installed? | 10:20 |
| Thermoriax | well, thing I'm curious about is this is a new thing. I noticed it this morning. It wasn't that way last time I intentionally looked. | 10:21 |
| CosmicDJ | Thermoriax: timedatectl shows what? | 10:25 |
| Thermoriax | Local time is correct., TZ is correct. | 10:26 |
| Thermoriax | And setting TZ to US/Eastern seems to do nothing. | 10:28 |
| mgedmin | <mgedmin> do you have the tzdata-legacy package installed? | 10:28 |
| CosmicDJ | Thermoriax: strace date 2>&1 | grep zoneinfo ? | 10:29 |
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| Thermoriax | mgedmin: Apparently not. | 10:32 |
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| Thermoriax | Hmm, that might be the problem. /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern doesn't exist. | 10:34 |
| Thermoriax | Setting TZ to America/New_York fixes it. | 10:36 |
| CosmicDJ | Thermoriax: you should also use timedatectl set-timezone ... | 10:39 |
| Thermoriax | I'm guessing US/* went away at some point and I apparently didn't notice, or it was really recently. | 10:40 |
| goblin | Hello, I've added a second Wireguard peer to /etc/netplan/*, issued a successful `netplan try`. The new peer appears in `netplan get`, but `wg` only shows 1 peer (the one I configured originally). I don't see any netplan errors in the logs. What gives, what can I do to debug this? | 10:42 |
| Thermoriax | CosmicDJ: Why? | 10:42 |
| CosmicDJ | Thermoriax: you don't want a system-wide correct timezone setting? | 10:43 |
| Thermoriax | Seems to be already? Or at least, syslog timestamps are. | 10:44 |
| Thermoriax | I think my user level time was just broken because it was set to /US/Eastern, which doesn't seem to be a thing now. | 10:44 |
| Thermoriax | -/ | 10:45 |
| mgedmin | it's still supported _if you install tzdata-legacy_ | 10:45 |
| mgedmin | but yeah switching to the modern continent/city naming might reduce future headaches | 10:45 |
| Thermoriax | Well, it's changed now, so does not having it matter for anything? | 10:46 |
| goblin | also, /run/systemd/network/10-netplan-wg0.netdev contains 2 peers | 10:49 |
| Thermoriax | Anyway, thanks CosmicDJ and mgedmin | 10:50 |
| goblin | oh, there's a separate #netplan. I'll ask there instead. | 10:51 |
| Thermoriax | brb | 10:53 |
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| Elliria | Hey there. Does anybody know what this little three-character black-and-white markup inside of some text files is and how to convert it to text? https://imgur.com/a/C7v1yQS | 11:19 |
| mgedmin | is that less? | 11:28 |
| Elliria | It's a text file open in the Geany program. | 11:29 |
| mgedmin | STS and CCH are Latin-1 control codes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin-1_Supplement | 11:29 |
| mgedmin | U+0093 and U+0094 | 11:29 |
| mgedmin | some terminal probably uses them to implement bold/underline/something like that? | 11:30 |
| Elliria | Interesting. | 11:30 |
| Elliria | Is there a command that would blanket convert those to plain text? | 11:30 |
| mgedmin | I think I could remove them in Vim by doing :%s/\%x93\|\%x94//gc | 11:34 |
| mgedmin | maybe you can copy the character and use the editor's search/replace | 11:34 |
| Elliria | It's funny. If I select one in Geany and then paste it into the search bar, it makes a little waffle character. | 11:35 |
| Elliria | Even more interesting is that if I select one and copy it, I can paste it as is (still a little black-and-white box of text) to another tab, but if I paste it into the search box, it's a waffle character. | 11:36 |
| Elliria | https://imgur.com/a/wdO5fwo <-- excuse the hot pink | 11:37 |
| mgedmin | yeah, looks right | 11:40 |
| mgedmin | it us U+0094, a control character with no standard visual representation | 11:41 |
| mgedmin | some programs display control characters differently so you have a chance of recognizing them | 11:41 |
| mgedmin | some just show the unicode bento box | 11:41 |
| Elliria | It's fascinating stuff. | 11:42 |
| Elliria | file foo.txt gives this: | 11:44 |
| Elliria | foo.txt: Algol 68 source, Non-ISO extended-ASCII text, with very long lines (768), with CRLF line terminators | 11:44 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:08 |
| andreas808 | I'm trying to install wgetpaste in Ubuntu 24.04, but the package doesn't seem to exist? Any ideas? | 12:14 |
| respawn | installing it from where | 12:16 |
| respawn | devil is in details | 12:17 |
| Thermoriax | Looking at github, wgetpaste is just a bash script. | 12:20 |
| andreas808 | respawn & Thermoriax: Hmm, but if I install it from github, I have to manually keep it up-to-date. Are you sure there is no Ubuntu package for wgetpaste? :-/ | 13:57 |
| Thermoriax | andreas808: So? Also, keep what up to date? Have you looked at the repo? It hasn't been touched in over a decade. | 14:04 |
| andreas808 | Thermoriax: Ah, OK. I'll install it from github then. :) | 14:04 |
| Thermoriax | And no, I have no idea if there's a package for it, but I really doubt there's a package for a bash script on github with 5 stars, that hasn't updated in 11 years. | 14:05 |
| Thermoriax | There's also tarballs that seem more recent, but aren't timestamped so...YMMV | 14:07 |
| mgedmin | what is a wgetpaste? | 14:10 |
| Thermoriax | Hmm, poking at the tarballs themselves,looks like official updates ended in 2020. | 14:10 |
| Thermoriax | Looks like a bash script to upload clipboard contents to assorted *bins. | 14:11 |
| rock8008 | :( | 14:11 |
| mgedmin | there's a pastebinit package that supports various pastebin sites | 14:12 |
| Thermoriax | I've pondered cobbling something together to help stuff like ksnip act more like sharex on windows, but...lazy... | 14:12 |
| Thermoriax | And I wish ksnip would fix OCR. :) | 14:17 |
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| CarlFK1 | https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/clock-world.html.en "This requires the Clocks application to be installed" how? | 17:57 |
| CarlFK1 | or really, how do I add a few cities/times to my clock? | 17:58 |
| lotuspsychje | !info gnome-clocks | CarlFK1 | 17:58 |
| ubottu | CarlFK1: gnome-clocks (46.0-1build1, noble): Simple GNOME app with stopwatch, timer, and world clock support. In component main, is optional. Built by gnome-clocks. Size 221 kB / 1,092 kB | 17:58 |
| CarlFK1 | gnome-clocks - thanks | 17:59 |
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| Square3 | I've managed to brick my system by issuing a ppa-purge command (I issued it without "-d jammy") as explained here https://launchpad.net/~kisak/+archive/ubuntu/kisak-mesa | 18:32 |
| Square3 | (it's complaining about sshd dependency problems and just leaves me with a prompt after boot) | 18:33 |
| Square3 | Is there any way to save this situation other than reinstall?) | 18:33 |
| rbox | i dont think peopel know what the word brick means... | 18:34 |
| Square3 | To be exact, I mean it doesn't start wayland / desktop | 18:34 |
| srg | Back in my day, brick meant turning your device into an UNRECOVERABLE useless "brick" | 18:34 |
| srg | Next step: throw it in the trash | 18:35 |
| srg | lol | 18:35 |
| Square3 | yeah, it was an exaggeration | 18:35 |
| enigma9o7 | Can you get to tty to attempt a fix? | 18:40 |
| enigma9o7 | You could possibly make sure your default jammy sources are the only ones enabled then do your best to recover manually with apt. | 18:40 |
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| CarlFK1 | Square3: you mentioned sshd - that seems like a good place to start. is sshd running ? | 18:43 |
| enigma9o7 | Ah you said it leaves you with a prompt after boot anyway, so don't need to switch ttys. Just login and resolve. | 18:44 |
| enigma9o7 | Could start with a simple `sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop` | 18:44 |
| enigma9o7 | that should pull in required mesa/etc if you've removed it. | 18:44 |
| enigma9o7 | (after fixing sources and running update of course) | 18:44 |
| Square3 | CarlFK1, Sorry, it was SSSD. | 18:49 |
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| CarlFK1 | maybe now is the time to consider automating the process of building the system - write a 30 line shell script that dd's the base image, creates the user, enables ssh, keys, etc/apt/sources.d/foo ... and then a 2nd step that apt installs whatever... | 18:59 |
| CarlFK1 | personally I use ansible | 18:59 |
| CarlFK1 | it is more work up front, but pays off over time | 18:59 |
| Square | Man, what are my best options at this point. | 19:01 |
| Square | 1. I have files (and some conf) on this system I want to preserve | 19:01 |
| Square | 2. It's running ubuntu 22.04 atm | 19:01 |
| Square | I obviously can't do an upgrade I guess? | 19:02 |
| CarlFK1 | whoos, this isn't #raspberry pi channel. | 19:02 |
| CarlFK1 | I automate pi sd card setup. I don't automate my laptop setup. | 19:03 |
| enigma9o7 | I'd suggest fixing t first before doing the upgrade. | 19:03 |
| CarlFK1 | I would back it up, do a fresh install and pull stuff out of the backup | 19:04 |
| Square | Thanks guys | 19:06 |
| Square | fixing it seems hard. Got a some 15-20 "fail" in my boot log. | 19:06 |
| tomreyn | how hard it is to fix it will surely depend on what the errors and root causes are | 19:08 |
| Square | Sure, this was a me problem. But I get damn angry on the dude writing the ppa-purge instructions not to issue a big warning | 19:10 |
| isene | How do I set up an smtp server on localhost that sends emails directly (and not via Gmail or other relays) and where I can freely set the from address in e.g. Mutt and it goes happily onto the Interwebz? | 19:15 |
| tomreyn | without a satellite setup, this can only work reliably if you have a reverse confirmable domain name pointing to it, it has a stable ip address, and you setup DKIM + SPF | 19:18 |
| srg | It's a huge amount of effort to setup and maintain SMTP servers due to all the spam protection and authentication requirements nowdays | 19:18 |
| isene | Not setting up an smtp for others to use. I want to simply send mails to anyone where I set any from-address. Nothing more. | 19:21 |
| tomreyn | that's the same spammers want to do, and that's why it's not as easy as this | 19:22 |
| srg | Yep lol, unless you setup a whole bunch of stuff, whoever you're sending email TO won't receive it. It'll be instantly blocked | 19:23 |
| JanC | well, it's easy to send mails to anyone | 19:23 |
| JanC | the hard part is to have them arrive :) | 19:24 |
| isene | Right. So how? | 19:26 |
| JanC | there is documentation on how to set up a mail server with SPF, DMARC, etc. | 19:27 |
| Square | If you boot into a command prompt, is there a command to try to start the desktop? | 19:27 |
| srg | tomreyn mentioned it already. You need static IP, proper reverse DNS (and other records), DKIM, and SPF at the least | 19:27 |
| JanC | in some cases (e.g. sending mail to Microsoft or Google) sending legitimate mail to them is a lot harder than to block spam from them unfortunately | 19:28 |
| srg | And even if you set it up perfectly, there's still lack-of-reputation, so your mails might still get blocked/marked-as-spam | 19:28 |
| JanC | as they abuse their power of being a semi-monopolist | 19:29 |
| JanC | if "reputation" really was something you could depend on, any mail coming from those would be blocked, but your users wouldn't be happy about that... ;) | 19:31 |
| tomreyn | Square: assuming you want gnome-shell on wayland, this may work: dbus-run-session -- gnome-shell --display-server --wayland | 19:46 |
| Square | tomreyn, thanks | 19:46 |
| tomreyn | don't do this as root | 19:47 |
| tomreyn | i also do not know whether this will behave the same as a normal login from gdpm would. most likely, not - i assume screen locking will not work, logout / powerdown / reboot via GUI may not work either | 19:49 |
| tomreyn | Square: actually just this may be better: dbus-run-session gnome-wayland.desktop | 19:57 |
| Square | tomreyn, thanks again | 19:57 |
| peirik_ | After latest update I'm getting a weird error in Ubuntu Dock, where it's no longer possible to turn it off: https://i.imgur.com/NENvgkZ.png This makes it impossible to use Dash to Panel as a replacement because then I'll have double docks 🫤 Anyone know how to fix this? | 19:59 |
| Square | tomreyn, does one to pass the path to gnome-wayland.desktop? | 20:00 |
| Square | one need to* | 20:00 |
| tomreyn | Square: i was assuming you wouldn not have to, but it'd be /usr/share/wayland-sessions/ | 20:00 |
| tomreyn | i'm just learning about this myself really | 20:01 |
| tomreyn | Square: it's actually: dbus-run-session /usr/share/wayland-sessions/ubuntu-wayland.desktop | 20:04 |
| Square | tomreyn, thanks | 20:11 |
| rdlpm | Good evening, I am currently using PuTTY Shell on my Ubuntu server. I want an application that continues to run on the server after the PuTTY shell connection is closed! And when I log in again later, that I can load the software again in the foreground... How do I do that? I have heard of NOHUP, is that possible? | 20:21 |
| tomreyn | Square: or just, more properly, sudo systemctl isolate graphical.target -- then you'll get the grahical login and the proper session as well | 20:21 |
| Square | tomreyn, sweet! I'm on ubuntu 22.04 so things might look differently here | 20:22 |
| tomreyn | rdlpm: do you mean that you're currently using PuTTY to connect to the ssh server running on your ubuntu server? | 20:22 |
| Square | i couldn't find /usr/share/wayland-sessions for example | 20:22 |
| JanC | rdlpm: use screen or tmux | 20:23 |
| Square | but there is /usr/share/ubuntu-wayland | 20:23 |
| tomreyn | Square: sorry, i only had a debian running here initially, was going by that. | 20:23 |
| Square | no need to be sorry. Glad you checked the possibility | 20:24 |
| JanC | rdlpm: or dtach | 20:24 |
| tomreyn | /usr/share/ubuntu-wayland would be right, but you can't run this directly (it's not executable, but a configuration file) | 20:24 |
| tomreyn | rdlpm: nohup also works, but it's a poor solution compared to a terminal multiplexer such as tmux or (GNU) screen. | 20:25 |
| rdlpm | JanC how do I use screen to continue running the application and retrieve the application again | 20:26 |
| rdlpm | tomreyn nohup did not work the application is running in the background but i cannot make it visible again | 20:26 |
| JanC | dtach is closer to what you ask, as screen & tmux have extra features | 20:26 |
| JanC | but screen/tmux (maybe used through byobu frontend) might be simpler | 20:28 |
| rdlpm | JanC what is the command for this dtach ? example! | 20:28 |
| tomreyn | https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/en/man1/dtach.1.html | 20:28 |
| JanC | when you are unfamiliar to such features, maybe byobu is nice | 20:29 |
| JanC | it has an option to run by default when you log in | 20:30 |
| JanC | and can use either screen or tmux as a backend | 20:31 |
| JanC | with a "user friendly" UI | 20:31 |
| rdlpm | JanC Looking for something very simple that I can create and reload when I reconnect | 20:33 |
| JanC | https://www.byobu.org/ | 20:34 |
| rdlpm | dtach -c ./Test but how do I load it when I come back? | 20:34 |
| JanC | rdlpm: you'd need -a or -A | 20:36 |
| rdlpm | JanC Ok thx | 20:36 |
| JanC | but also look at byobu; it might be closer to what you really want | 20:37 |
| rdlpm | dtach does not support the application | 20:39 |
| JanC | ? | 20:39 |
| rdlpm | JanC comes error it looks at the whole line what is there and gives me a random error sign | 20:41 |
| rdlpm | dtach -a ./TestLinux | 20:42 |
| rdlpm | dtach: Invalid option '-t' | 20:42 |
| JanC | heh | 20:42 |
| JanC | dtach -a should attach to an existing socket | 20:45 |
| tomreyn | dtach -A /run/user/$(id -u)/dtach-session-1 -r winch ./TestLinux | 20:47 |
| explodes | ...show do I use screen... I now have two sessions named "-RR" | 20:47 |
| explodes | I'm in a session, can I rename it right now? | 20:47 |
| magladko | Hi all, I have a problem with my lg-laptop driver such that from some time I am unable to set battery charge limit etc. The bugs are documented and fixed from the kernel version 6.10 (and according to the bug discussion comment backported to 6.9, 6.6 and 6.1). However my system version is Ubuntu 6.8.0-45.45~22.04.1-generic 6.8.12. I am not quite | 20:48 |
| magladko | knowledgable in all the process here, so maybe anyone here has any hints on what could I do? | 20:48 |
| magladko | The easiest thing for me would be probably to wait for the ubuntu kernel fix, but is there any way to check if it is somewhere planned down the line? Or am I left alone with it... | 20:48 |
| magladko | Thanks! | 20:48 |
| magladko | reference: | 20:48 |
| magladko | - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1527540/cannot-overwrite-value-under-sys-class-power-supply-cmb0-charge-control-end-thr | 20:48 |
| tomreyn | magladko: please paste to a pastebin (see /topic), you're currently muted but will be unmuted shortly. | 20:48 |
| JanC | unmuted now :) | 20:49 |
| magladko | ok, sorry and thanks. So I have pasted my problem description here: https://bpa.st/J7Z2Y | 20:51 |
| tomreyn | explodes: https://superuser.com/questions/370510/rename-screen-session/370553#370553 looks like it could work | 20:51 |
| enigma9o7 | Well you're not gunna get newer than 6.8 from official ubuntu on jammy. Noble is also 6.8, but it'll move to 6.11 when oracular is released (without even requiring hwe if my understanding is correct). If you want a newer kernel now, options include mainline and xanmod.org which would be one way to know if newer kernel actually fixes you rissue or not. | 20:53 |
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| magladko | enigma9o7 ok, thanks | 20:57 |
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| magladko | however from what I understood they backported some changes that eventually created this bug, is there any place I could see if it is planned to fix it this way? | 20:58 |
| magladko | I mean, everything already has worked for me on 6.8 | 20:59 |
| tomengland | I'm on oracular and 6.11 has been flawless for me. wouldn't be too worried about going from 6.8 to 6.11 if it's on mainline | 21:07 |
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| tomreyn | magladko: if upgrading to 24.04 LTS is an option for you, then you'll get 6.11 there where it should be fixed | 21:21 |
| tomreyn | oh wait that's wrong, sorry | 21:22 |
| magladko | tomreyn yeahh, I wish | 21:23 |
| magladko | I also was thinking about just recompiling the failing driver, but idk into how much trouble am I going into exactly '=D | 21:23 |
| tomreyn | so if you would like to stay in the 'supported' domain, then all i guess we can suggest right now is to file a regression bug against 22.04 and 24.04 | 21:29 |
| tomreyn | !bug | 21:30 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 21:30 |
| magladko | tomreyn ok, thanks I will give it a shot | 21:30 |
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| mykal | Hi all. Upgraded 22.04 to 24.04.1 via do-distupgrade and unable to login to desktop. Ctrl-alt-f3 terminal and even my Plex server are running great. Error is white screen "oh no!  ...  Log out and try again" have done apt update/upgrade and reinstall Ubuntu-desktop, gdm3 and disabling Wayland, no change. Any advice on what to try next? | 23:18 |
| mykal | Running out of answers to try online and trying to save this system rather than start over. | 23:18 |
| tomreyn | mykal: which desktop do/did you have? which graphics card/chipset? do you have PPAs/3rd party apt repositories active? what does sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt full-upgrade report? any warnings or errors? | 23:24 |
| mykal | tomreyn default desktop with no mods. It's an old all in one with some amd cpu with the GPU in built. I did have the amd driver's from the repos installed. I think I tried a reinstall of those and no dice. Running those commands now. Thanks. | 23:27 |
| tomreyn | "the amd driver's from the repos" means what exactly? did you download them seperately somewhere? | 23:28 |
| tomreyn | how would you have reinstalled them? | 23:29 |
| Square | Finally getting ready for a reinstall. Man, backup on linux desktop in 2024 is a lot of work | 23:30 |
| Square | I wish there were stricter standard for where programs write their data, cache and config. | 23:31 |
| mykal | Nothing odd doing the update commands outside of cloud-init being not upgraded due to phasing. Sorry, for the amd stuff. When I first installed I had some issues with some games. I think I may have downloaded a package from amd now that I reflect on it. I tried something I saw online that was to use apt install AMD? Sorry can't find that post I | 23:32 |
| mykal | followed just now. From memory it didn't like it anyway and just spat errors. | 23:32 |
| tomreyn | mykal: so amd graphics are supported by linux itself with the amdgpu driver. There is no need to download separate drivers from amd, whether from an apt repository or not, unless you need to do graphics compute. | 23:34 |
| tomreyn | plus, we only support the open source amgpu here, not the proprietary amdgpu+ stuff you can download from amd.com | 23:35 |
| tomreyn | i'm convinced this will also be why you're in graphics troubles | 23:35 |
| mykal | tomreyn right, that tings a bell actually. I did apt reinstall amdgpu to try resolve the issue. Sorry, been fighting this here and there for a week now. | 23:36 |
| tomreyn | apt policy lists active apt repositories | 23:36 |
| tomreyn | package and command apt-foktracer will list packages installed from unknown apt sources | 23:36 |
| tomreyn | * apt-forktracer | 23:36 |
| tomreyn | so make sure you only have default ubuntu repositories (and maybe some others if you *know* those won't get in the way) | 23:37 |
| tomreyn | then run apt-forktracer and see what 'foreign' packages you have installed, and remove what you don't need. | 23:38 |
| tomreyn | then run the series of apt comands from above again, reboot, and you should be good. | 23:38 |
| mykal | tomreyn thanks. Under apt policy everything looks like Ubuntu except unity3d. The apt-forktracer (had to install this tool) there is a looonnnnggg list including mostly amd stuff, so I'm guessing that's my issue. I'll have a crack at emptying this list and see how I go. Thanks. | 23:41 |
| tomreyn | okay, so if you're a game developer (unity3d), you *might* actually want the amd drivers on an Ubuntu version they support (look precisely what they support, this will mean lagging behind on what kernel version and ubuntu version you can run). But I cannot guide there. | 23:43 |
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