| Mibix | I can not figure out how to get rid of this he vboxdrv kernel module is not loaded. Either there is no module available for the current kernel (6.8.0-45-generic) or it failed toload. Please recompile the kernel module and install it by sudo /sbin/vboxconfig | 00:09 |
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| Mibix | recompile fails of course | 00:10 |
| Mibix | using vbox 6.1.50r161033 | 00:10 |
| rfm | Mibix, what kernel? I don't think VBox 6.1 supports anything later than 6.5 or so. | 00:14 |
| Mibix | 6.8 :X | 00:14 |
| Mibix | lol | 00:14 |
| Mibix | hmm i think i got it working | 00:15 |
| Mibix | update must have messed up and uninstalled something | 00:15 |
| Mibix | did sudo apt-get remove virtualbox and it found nothing | 00:16 |
| Mibix | so installed it again and working :D | 00:16 |
| morgan-u | How to install a deb file. Expand the archive. r-click on the .deb file and choose install. (Thanks for the wrong level of answers again and again and again (actually times. Changed the question the 4th time and got an answer that was to a different question than I asked. Yes I have been hassled. Like the old old days in the linux world. I never did install slackware - all 27 floppies of it. Now I know more and the | 00:21 |
| morgan-u | infroastructure help is so much better. And hope I have passed the gauntlet test = = guys.) | 00:21 |
| saint_ | so i m running a live install. is there a way to install dosfstools and mtools ? | 00:22 |
| saint_ | apt install wont do it | 00:22 |
| saint_ | i m trying to create a GPT Partition table, and my first partition needs to be FAT32 for EFI boot | 00:22 |
| leftyfb | morgan-u: sudo apt install /path/to/package.deb | 00:23 |
| leftyfb | that's how you install a .deb file | 00:23 |
| mdmbkr | why does my network device change names on reboot | 00:23 |
| mdmbkr | was: enp8s0f0np0 changed to: enp7s0f0np0 | 00:23 |
| JanC | eh, why would apt install not work? | 00:24 |
| leftyfb | saint_: why won't apt install them? | 00:24 |
| leftyfb | mdmbkr: add net.ifnames=0 to your kernel parameters in /etc/defaults/grub | 00:25 |
| saint_ | leftyfb oh wait. looks like it s already install.. :/ but i still get an error message when i create the fat32 partition .. | 00:25 |
| leftyfb | saint_: why not just install ubuntu to the whole drive so you have a working partition table and resize and create your other partitions after the fact? | 00:26 |
| saint_ | leftyfb i guess i could try that. | 00:27 |
| leftyfb | saint_: you're just making more unnecessary work for yourself otherwise | 00:27 |
| saint_ | leftyfb i ll buy you an ice cream if it works your way. and if it does, i might retire lol. | 00:28 |
| mdmbkr | like as in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="pcie_aspm=off net.ifnames=0" ? | 00:29 |
| leftyfb | mdmbkr: yes | 00:29 |
| mdmbkr | or does that need to be a comma instead of a space | 00:29 |
| leftyfb | mdmbkr: then run: sudo update-grub | 00:29 |
| leftyfb | mdmbkr: no comma, just a space | 00:30 |
| mdmbkr | leftyfb: thanks! | 00:43 |
| jsmooth | Well, beautiful. I installed VS Code in WSL, but it told me to remove it and install on WIndows and launching will work. I Remove it and try to launch and it says command not found. I open it Windows and it says workspace doesn't exist and it cannot find the files under WSL. | 00:53 |
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| saint_ | leftyfb so that works. but i m stuck in a non bootable device found on this laptop. | 01:05 |
| leftyfb | huh? | 01:05 |
| leftyfb | You installed Ubuntu using all the defaults for partitioning (didn’t do any manual partitioning) and it doesn’t boot? | 01:06 |
| saint_ | leftyfb i had to create a partition. | 01:06 |
| leftyfb | Why? | 01:07 |
| saint_ | because i wanted to limit it at 200gb | 01:07 |
| saint_ | i ll try again | 01:07 |
| saint_ | let it do its thing | 01:07 |
| saint_ | i dont want the multi partition /usrx , /tmp , etc | 01:07 |
| saint_ | all i want it a / partition | 01:07 |
| leftyfb | Just stick with the defaults. Resize stuff after | 01:08 |
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| saint_ | leftyfb still the same | 01:23 |
| saint_ | i think i screwed up this uefi partition on this laptop | 01:23 |
| leftyfb | Is secure boot enabled? | 01:23 |
| leftyfb | Wait | 01:23 |
| saint_ | leftyfb nah, i turned it off | 01:24 |
| leftyfb | There shouldn’t be an existing EFI partition | 01:24 |
| saint_ | i was following an online recommendation | 01:24 |
| saint_ | no no , i removed this crap partition needed for windows | 01:24 |
| saint_ | secure boot is off | 01:24 |
| leftyfb | You need to tell the installer to just use the entire drive and make its own partitions | 01:24 |
| saint_ | i did that | 01:24 |
| saint_ | let me run ubuntu live again | 01:25 |
| leftyfb | Then there shouldn’t be an ego | 01:25 |
| leftyfb | EFI partition from before | 01:25 |
| leftyfb | Wipe the entire drive and start over | 01:25 |
| Mibix | man what driver am i supposed to use with a GT 710 on kernel 6.8? nvidia 470 never even gets to the login screen, nivida 550 looks ridiculous (two tiny screens at the top) | 01:25 |
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| saint_ | ok, so laptop BIOS says "boot mode is set to UEFI, secure boot: off | 01:25 |
| saint_ | let me boot live and play with fdisk | 01:26 |
| Bashing-om | Mibix: Nvidia does recommend the 470 version driver: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/226760/ . | 01:30 |
| Bashing-om | !info nvidia-driver-470 noble | 01:32 |
| ubottu | nvidia-driver-470 (470.256.02-0ubuntu0.24.04.1, noble): NVIDIA driver metapackage. In component restricted, is optional. Built by nvidia-graphics-drivers-470. Size 442 kB / 1,539 kB. (Only available for amd64.) | 01:32 |
| Mibix | heh the 470 with kernel 6.8? | 01:37 |
| Mibix | doesnt work | 01:37 |
| Mibix | purging 555 driver | 01:38 |
| Mibix | just sudo apt install nvidia-driver-470 or is there a special one heh | 01:38 |
| Bashing-om | Mibix: Purge the current driver - then ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . | 01:40 |
| Mibix | yeah that isnt gonna work with the new kernel though :/ | 01:41 |
| Mibix | but ill give it a shot! | 01:41 |
| Bashing-om | !info linux-image-generic noble | 01:42 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (6.8.0-45.45, noble): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 11 kB / 17 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, ppc64el, s390x.) | 01:42 |
| Mibix | ill try it again but i swear it fails everytime on 6.8 with the 470 driver | 01:44 |
| Mibix | go to 6.5 and its golden | 01:44 |
| WaV | I have 6.8.0-45 and nvidia-470 | 01:46 |
| WaV | works fine. | 01:46 |
| carlosjsanchez | :) | 01:57 |
| ablyss | hi all i;m new to ubuntu channel... been awhile | 02:16 |
| ablyss | used to be my mine driver for years. loved it with my soul | 02:17 |
| ablyss | still use it occasionally but in docker container | 02:18 |
| * rbox gives ablyss a gold star | 02:18 | |
| ablyss | rbox may this star not bounch around like the ones in the sky | 02:19 |
| ablyss | but none the less, thanks -- my ubuntu fram | 02:21 |
| * ablyss gives rbox a soda pop for good times | 02:24 | |
| Mibix_ | omg i can not get the gui to work for the life of me | 02:42 |
| saint_ | for the love og chatGPT, i think i totally screwed up this laptop. i cant get the EFI and Grub to do anything even when i do an automatic install of Ubuntu. I think i need to go back to basics to restore this damn partition. | 02:43 |
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| Bashing-om | saint_: What I did for a fresh install of 24.04 in UEFI - prepartitioned - /,home,var and allowed the installer to set up the EFI partition - did so automagically. | 02:53 |
| saint_ | Bashing-om i dont get it. that s what i have dont. wiped out windows and its secure boot partition. created a GPT Partition table. Created a EFI Partition 512Mb FAT32. Assigned Boot and Res flags. Instaslled Ubuntu and let it do it s stuff. And it alwsys boot back saying it cant boo=t... | 02:54 |
| Mibix | omg i has booted GUI again | 02:56 |
| Bashing-om | saint_: Let the installer make up the EFI partition. ( defaults as 1 1G partition). | 02:57 |
| saint_ | Bashing-om so from the live ubuntu, i m starting the install ubuntu again. did you do Erase disk and install ubuntu m, or manual install ? | 02:58 |
| saint_ | i need to remove my old partitions | 02:58 |
| Bashing-om | Mibix: And the secret sauce is ? | 02:58 |
| saint_ | because my previous install failed | 02:58 |
| Mibix | no idea | 02:58 |
| Mibix | haha | 02:58 |
| Mibix | i have it forcing to go to 6.5 and it just booted to the Nouveau display driver after a couple purges | 02:59 |
| Mibix | going to try to select 470 drom the additonal drivers menu | 03:00 |
| Mibix | *from | 03:00 |
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| Bashing-om | saint_: I have experience with Gparted (years) -- I wiped the SSD and set up my operaring partitions - found out the hard way to allow the installer to make up the EFI partition -as In had to re-install the system when I too tried to make up the EFI partition myself ( the installer still made up it's own EFI Partition. and that messed me up). | 03:02 |
| saint_ | i m at this point. probably wasted 5hrs today with this crap. | 03:04 |
| Mibixy | grrr | 03:04 |
| Mibixy | who can i onyl use the Nouveau driver | 03:04 |
| Bashing-om | saint_: Not a waste - os a learning curve - so I told myself :P | 03:05 |
| saint_ | Bashing-om that s a way to look at it. i forgot about this one lol. | 03:06 |
| saint_ | i clearly learned more about the partition flags today than ever.. | 03:06 |
| saint_ | goal is to have 1 laptop with Ubuntu, BlackArch, Caine, SysRescueCD .. | 03:06 |
| saint_ | fuck. | 03:11 |
| saint_ | still not working. | 03:11 |
| saint_ | no bootable device found. | 03:11 |
| Bashing-om | saint_: Boot the installer in EFI moode ? -got to ! | 03:12 |
| saint_ | Bashing-om this laptop is set to UEFI; Secure boot: OFF <- That's correct, right? My other boot options in the bios are 1) UEFI Boot mode, Secure boot:ON ; or 2) Legacy eternal device boot mode, Secure boot off ... | 03:13 |
| leftyfb | saint_: what release of ubuntu are you installing? | 03:14 |
| saint_ | leftyfb ubuntu-24.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso | 03:16 |
| leftyfb | saint_: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/erase-disk-and-install-ubuntu.png | 03:17 |
| Mibixy | hrmm should the xorg.conf file be in /etc/x11/ in 22.04 | 03:17 |
| leftyfb | Mibixy: there isn't an xorg.conf by default | 03:18 |
| saint_ | leftyfb tried that one already. | 03:18 |
| saint_ | leftyfb let me try this again from the LIVE Ubuntu <- there is an install in it | 03:19 |
| Bashing-om | Mibixy: No - moved - hang on a sec and I get ya the new location. | 03:19 |
| leftyfb | saint_: go into your BIOS and look for anything that said software RAID or Intel Rapid Store and disable it | 03:19 |
| leftyfb | Bashing-om: AFAIK, it's not moved, it just doesn't need it by default. You can create one in that location with customizations if you like | 03:20 |
| Bashing-om | Mibixy: Opps sorry was the log file I was miss think'n :( | 03:21 |
| Mibixy | hmm | 03:21 |
| Mibixy | would appear my xorg.conf is blank | 03:22 |
| leftyfb | Mibixy: is there an issue you're trying to solve? | 03:22 |
| Mibixy | can seem to boot using an nvidia driver on 22.04 | 03:23 |
| Mibixy | tried 6.8 and 6.5 | 03:24 |
| saint_ | leftyfb the only thing i found it SATA Operation / DIsable / AHCI / Raid ON ... It's on AHCI right now. | 03:24 |
| Mibixy | got 6.5 working with nouveau driver | 03:24 |
| saint_ | AHCI = Sata is configured for AHCI Mode | 03:24 |
| leftyfb | saint_: has it been on AHCI this whole time? | 03:24 |
| saint_ | leftyfb yes | 03:24 |
| leftyfb | check your boot order | 03:24 |
| saint_ | leftyfb General / Boot sequence shows "Check box / UEFI: 8.07, Partition 2 | 03:26 |
| saint_ | leftyfb Boot list option shows 2 radio boxes, Legacy external Drive, and the selected one UEFI | 03:26 |
| leftyfb | pretty sure the boot selection should say something like "ubuntu" | 03:27 |
| Mibixy | omg | 03:27 |
| leftyfb | either way, good luck. I have to head out | 03:27 |
| saint_ | leftyfb thx | 03:27 |
| Dat | hi all | 03:53 |
| Dat | anyone do an upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04.1 ? any issues? | 03:53 |
| Mibixy | ok i can not get it back booting again :'( | 04:20 |
| Bashing-om | !nomodeset | Mibixy | 04:23 |
| ubottu | Mibixy: Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there. | 04:23 |
| Mibixy | ok trying that | 04:32 |
| Mibixy | still no dice | 04:37 |
| ZeZe_ | hi | 04:45 |
| Mibixy | wtf the recovery menu comes up then just gets shoved out of the way with bullshit lines | 04:50 |
| Mibixy | omg i got in via recovery then normal boot | 04:52 |
| saint_ | going to bed. giving up for tonoight. maybe i ll get this crap working before the week end tomorrow. | 05:00 |
| hex7 | you thought you guys is the coder of ubuntu ? ... . | 05:07 |
| hex7 | where is the source code then ? | 05:07 |
| hex7 | is Us [ 0day (xc) Our ] | 05:08 |
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| hex7 | anyone wanna source code of ubuntu | 06:30 |
| hex7 | how much ? | 06:30 |
| hex7 | berebu berebu grandpa is here | 06:30 |
| hex7 | :p | 06:30 |
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| gebbione | hello can anyone see this bug on launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/oem-priority/+bug/2081636 ? | 07:54 |
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| nyo2 | I guys my system was slow on reboot after instally weylus (app from outside ubuntu). so I entered a shell with ctrl+alt+F3 and typed reboot. After this kde takes about 2 minutes to load after login with user/psw | 08:29 |
| nyo2 | I removed weylus and the udev rule of it, nothing | 08:29 |
| mgedmin | gbkersey: nope | 08:30 |
| nyo2 | I did systemd-analyze blame and say docker is slow | 08:30 |
| mgedmin | docker shouldn't be in the critical path for login | 08:30 |
| mgedmin | unless it hogging cpu/disk i/o makes the rest of the system slow? | 08:31 |
| nyo2 | wait I do a pastebin | 08:31 |
| mgedmin | can you narrow down "system slow" to "cpu busy all the time" vs "it's doing disk/io all the time" vs "it's waiting for something, e.g. network"? | 08:31 |
| nyo2 | https://pastebin.com/Nn8ugv3h | 08:32 |
| mgedmin | I would do that with vmstat (or dstat) in a terminal, but any of the standard tools (top, htop, atop, gnome-system-monitor) ought to work | 08:32 |
| nyo2 | yes I can login in a tty before doing the graphical login | 08:32 |
| nyo2 | anyway it stays in login screen about 1 or 2 minutes before the KDE screen loading | 08:33 |
| mgedmin | nyo2: systemd-analyze plot > bootchart.svg might be more informative | 08:33 |
| nyo2 | and then when the desktop is loaded, sometime it says kwin error | 08:33 |
| nyo2 | mgedmin: ok I do it now | 08:33 |
| nyo2 | how can I share that plot file? | 08:34 |
| mgedmin | still 7 seconds for graphical.target means systemd critical-chain doesn't see your 2-minute delay, it happens afterwards | 08:34 |
| mgedmin | does imgur.com support SVG images? | 08:34 |
| mgedmin | you can look at it yourself | 08:35 |
| nyo2 | https://easyupload.io/idqnml | 08:35 |
| mgedmin | but, again, that might not be as helpful as I'd hoped, if the delay happens after the depicted events | 08:35 |
| nyo2 | looking now at the plot file | 08:35 |
| mgedmin | yeah, the plot shows the first 9 seconds of boot | 08:36 |
| mgedmin | wow your boot is fast | 08:36 |
| mgedmin | my graphical.target gets reached @19.306s ... | 08:36 |
| mgedmin | so, what is kde doing? and is it possible to see that somewhere? | 08:37 |
| mgedmin | gnome uses systemd user sessions to start all the desktop components | 08:37 |
| mgedmin | I don't know what kde does | 08:37 |
| nyo2 | I dunno all of this is a big surprise, I don't know what is happening | 08:37 |
| mgedmin | I wonder if systemd-analyze can analyze systemd user sessions | 08:37 |
| mgedmin | do you have anything in ~/.config/autostart/ or /etc/xdg/autostart/? | 08:38 |
| nyo2 | I mean I installed weylus, I rebooted, it freezed, rebooted from console, and then this | 08:38 |
| nyo2 | the taskbar was not loading, I had to remove a file and regenerate the menu as they were before done by me | 08:38 |
| mgedmin | silly question, /etc/xdg/autostart/ is chock-full of system things | 08:38 |
| mgedmin | I never looked at it actually | 08:38 |
| nyo2 | nothing in .config/autostart | 08:38 |
| nyo2 | there was an error in the logs about bluetooth so I disabled bluetooth (i don't have it anyway? | 08:39 |
| mgedmin | one thing you could try is create a second user account and try logging in there | 08:39 |
| nyo2 | already tried and it is the same | 08:40 |
| mgedmin | to narrow down whether the problem is in your user configuration files, or something that happened in the system globally | 08:40 |
| mgedmin | ok, so it's a global thing | 08:40 |
| nyo2 | I think something went wrote bad in the reboot | 08:40 |
| nyo2 | since the session was not restarting with the apps as they were before, loaded in ram I mean | 08:40 |
| nyo2 | you know when you reboot it reload firefox if it was open, etc | 08:40 |
| nyo2 | it did not happened | 08:41 |
| nyo2 | is there any file related to the session maybe to remove? | 08:41 |
| nyo2 | but again, the 2nd user should be ok if that was the problem | 08:41 |
| nyo2 | and it doesn't explain anyway the kwin error | 08:41 |
| nyo2 | if one does reinstall some part of the kubuntu system? | 08:41 |
| nyo2 | now that I think I can survive for a while since this is a server and rarely gets rebooted.... | 08:42 |
| mgedmin | session restore is a kde thing, and I'm not familiar with kde | 08:43 |
| mgedmin | (I hear gnome is getting a session restore feature in the next version) | 08:43 |
| nyo2 | I just hope it is not a ram problem, which anyway I can investigate easy..... | 08:44 |
| nyo2 | what log file do you suggest to look? I am not very familiar with them | 08:44 |
| mgedmin | ram problems usually show up as random application crashes/file corruption, not slowdowns | 08:44 |
| mgedmin | `journalctl -b 0` will show all logs since reboot | 08:44 |
| mgedmin | try to identify the time interval during which login happened and then see what was logging what | 08:45 |
| mgedmin | I would start with the dstat/atop thing I mentioned earlier, to see if the system is CPU bound or I/O bound or timing out somewhere | 08:46 |
| nyo2 | 3 nvme errors | 08:46 |
| mgedmin | e.g. broken DNS sometimes results in random 30-second timeouts in the weirdest places | 08:46 |
| mgedmin | NVMe errors can be scary | 08:46 |
| mgedmin | gnome-disks should let you see the drive's self-health assessment status | 08:47 |
| mgedmin | (or you could use smartctl in a terminal, or there's some nvme-specific tool I forget what it's called) | 08:48 |
| nyo2 | Permissions for /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml are too open. Netplan configuration should NOT be accesible by others... | 08:48 |
| nyo2 | hum | 08:48 |
| mgedmin | yeah, that does not cause slowdowns | 08:48 |
| mgedmin | also, netplan is paranoid -- worried about wifi passwords or vpn private keys leaking, I suppose | 08:48 |
| mgedmin | there's no reason to hide "please use automatic DHCP on all network interfaces thank's" from other users on the same machine | 08:49 |
| nyo2 | nothing special reading it all, just some nvidia frame buffer unsupported | 08:50 |
| nyo2 | so nothing | 08:50 |
| nyo2 | maybe some corrupted file? | 08:50 |
| nyo2 | but should I boot from usb live pen to check the main partition with e2fsck -vf /dev/nvme0n1p2 ? | 08:52 |
| mgedmin | what, exactly, were the NVMe errors? | 08:53 |
| mgedmin | disk read errors could cause slowdowns, sure -- the kernel resets the bus, etc. etc., but two minutes? for NVMe? | 08:54 |
| mgedmin | I'd understand if this was a rotational SATA hard drive; repositioning the heads takes time | 08:54 |
| nyo2 | wait I font | 08:54 |
| mgedmin | and I have seen freezes of up to 30 seconds for a USB2-attached external rotational HDD that randomly loses the SATA link over USB and does a full reset | 08:54 |
| mgedmin | but, again, for a builtin NVMe SSD? | 08:55 |
| nyo2 | PAM unable to dlopen(pam_lastlog.so): /usr/lib/security/pam_lastlog.so | 08:55 |
| mgedmin | this file does not exist for me either, ignore | 08:55 |
| nyo2 | cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 08:55 |
| nyo2 | cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 08:55 |
| nyo2 | some nvme errors | 08:56 |
| nyo2 | NVMe error count increased from 138 to 141 (0 new, 1 ignored, 2 unknown) | 08:56 |
| nyo2 | doesn't seem critical | 08:56 |
| mgedmin | probably | 08:57 |
| mgedmin | for me, after about 1000 power on hours and 29 unsafe shutdowns, it shows 1 media and data integrity error, but nothing in the nvme error log | 08:59 |
| mgedmin | (`smartctl -a /dev/nvme0n1` shows this info) | 08:59 |
| nyo2 | I don't think it is nvme | 09:01 |
| nyo2 | also I have an issue at boot with grub, graphical glitch because I installed ubuntu with a big monitor, then took the pc in the other room with smaller monitor and I do not see the grub menu.... probably I have to reinstall grub. but this is not an issue now, the point is to find what is causing this slow boot of kde | 09:02 |
| mgedmin | tip: when you apt install atop, besides installing the command-line atop tool, it sets up a daemon that takes snapshots of system state every 10 minutes and saves them in /var/log/atop/ | 09:02 |
| mgedmin | you can run atop -r and browse history | 09:02 |
| mgedmin | these snapshots show cpu usage, disk usage, memory usage, all running programs, in each of those 10minute snapshots | 09:02 |
| mgedmin | you navigate backwards/forwards in time using t/T keys | 09:03 |
| mgedmin | atop's output can be a bit hard to interpret | 09:03 |
| mgedmin | it tries to highlight the system resource that causes contention in red | 09:03 |
| mgedmin | could be cpu, could be disk/io, could be swapping | 09:03 |
| mgedmin | the main issue is that 10m snapshots may not be sufficiently granular to explain a 2minute delay | 09:03 |
| mgedmin | so watching atop in real-time during the slow login would be better | 09:04 |
| mgedmin | btw atop uses process accounting so it will notice all the processes that started up and quit in each of those 10m snapshots | 09:04 |
| mgedmin | it's just that, y'know, 2 minutes running at 100% cpu followed by 8 idle minutes will show up as 20% cpu usage overall for that snapshot | 09:05 |
| nyo2 | I do not have atop.. so no history | 09:06 |
| mgedmin | but you could, if you wanted to discover the cause of the problem, install atop and reboot again | 09:06 |
| mgedmin | just saying | 09:06 |
| nyo2 | ok I do it now | 09:07 |
| nyo2 | I reboot and then take a coffe. I have not slept. | 09:08 |
| nyo2 | I will be back | 09:08 |
| nyo2 | thanks for the moment | 09:08 |
| nyo2 | mgedmin: no news... is there a way to reinstall kde ? | 09:43 |
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| mgedmin | yes but actually no | 09:45 |
| mgedmin | you can apt install --reinstall some packages, but if they're already perfectly fine that will do nothing to help | 09:46 |
| mgedmin | you need to understand the cause of the problem before you can fix it | 09:46 |
| mgedmin | or reinstall the whole os | 09:46 |
| mgedmin | the cause might be that you got some extra package installed that is doing extra things (but which package?) | 09:46 |
| mgedmin | the cause might be that some config files got overwritten (which files?) | 09:46 |
| mgedmin | you could try debsums -c to see if there are any corrupt or changed files | 09:47 |
| mgedmin | you could try debsums -c -e to find changed config files in /etc | 09:47 |
| comph | hi, i think the reason my amd gpu didn't work correctly was because i installed a driver for ubuntu 22 | 10:11 |
| comph | it worked when i installed it with a "default" driver, but didn't have any extra stuff i was looking for specifically in blender | 10:12 |
| comph | so i tried to install the driver for ubuntu 22, as there weren't any for ubuntu 24 | 10:12 |
| comph | by "worked", i mean, i got picture etc, but it sort of crashed when i tried to run cs:go | 10:13 |
| nyo2 | mgedmin: thanks, meanwhile I was reading it could be qemu that slows down SDDM | 10:13 |
| comph | could be the graphics card i suppose, it is very bad | 10:14 |
| NewtonPumpkin | comph: does the driver require a patched kernel? are you using that kernel? | 10:14 |
| comph | NewtonPumpkin: i had all sorts of difficulties after i installed that driver | 10:18 |
| comph | i believe it installed a new kernel even | 10:18 |
| comph | but it didn't work | 10:18 |
| comph | here's the card btw: AMD Radeon R7 240 HD 8570 | 10:18 |
| comph | okay now i remember why i even ditched it using the default driver, it freezed the whole screen | 10:18 |
| comph | could be after a few minutes or a few hours | 10:19 |
| comph | https://www.amd.com/en/support/download/linux-drivers.html | 10:20 |
| comph | that's the driver ... i'm thinking maybe i should wait for the ubuntu 24 one, maybe that'll help | 10:20 |
| comph | my other option would be to install ubuntu 22 | 10:20 |
| comph | hmm seems to work ok with these games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zph4ks6ISww | 10:22 |
| comph | or maybe not, some lag it seems | 10:24 |
| nyo2 | mgedmin: debsums were fine... now I try another reboot with autologin and see... | 10:33 |
| vanishing | ideally I'd like to separate os system data from user data that can be navigated across different systems | 10:48 |
| vanishing | what's the safest/most effective method to remove encryption on a luks2-encrypted system drive created from an ubuntu live install? can this be done while the system is running? | 10:48 |
| ravage | if the system is not booted from it then yes | 10:50 |
| ravage | and remove means: backup data. wipe drive. copy data back | 10:50 |
| ravage | if this your system drive: backup data. reinstall | 10:51 |
| vanishing | got it. ty | 10:53 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:07 |
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| saim | hi | 11:52 |
| saim | anyone | 11:52 |
| saim | helo | 11:54 |
| mgedmin | irc is for patient people | 11:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | I would go with a majroity of people that only say a greeting are looking to chat, not support. A smaller subset are looking to troll. Either way, probably why no one responds | 12:01 |
| BluesKaj | bah humbug pragmaticenigma :-) | 12:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | maybe | 12:05 |
| pragmaticenigma | :P | 12:05 |
| saint_ | ok. back at it after having wasted time yesterdat. i have flashed a USB with Balena Etcher with Ubuntu 24.04. Booting on a Dell Latitude 5420 with secure boot = off, efi mode. I wiped out all partitions. Created a FAT32 /boot . Ubuntu manual partitioning installer won't let me use the drop down box to select this partition for the boot loader. any trick for this? | 13:09 |
| leftyfb | stop creating partitions | 13:14 |
| saint_ | leftyfb i ve done it your way without success.. | 13:14 |
| leftyfb | saint_: boot the live usb, run the live environment, open gparted, delete the partition table, reboot, boot the live usb and go through the install picking all the defaults | 13:15 |
| saint_ | why the reboot after deleting all partitions? | 13:15 |
| saint_ | just curious | 13:15 |
| leftyfb | sorry, I think it's just create a new partition table, not delete. Do not make any other changes | 13:16 |
| leftyfb | saint_: feel free to just run the installer after, but I like to be thorough | 13:16 |
| JanC | you don't just need a FAT32 partition, it has to be marked correctly also | 13:17 |
| leftyfb | we don't want to be creating the EFI partition manually | 13:17 |
| saint_ | JanC i ve done this with my 1st partition. fat32, tagged boot and e something | 13:17 |
| saint_ | i deleted all partitions. | 13:17 |
| saint_ | should i create a partition table at least ? | 13:18 |
| saint_ | GPT or FAT32 ? | 13:18 |
| saint_ | befiore i start the instsaller | 13:18 |
| pragmaticenigma | saint_: No, do not create anything, let the installer do it for you | 13:18 |
| JanC | it's probably better if you let the installer do everything | 13:18 |
| pragmaticenigma | that's what everyone so far has been telling you | 13:18 |
| saint_ | i m new with uefi . i also noticed that within the bios, it asks for a boot file . | 13:18 |
| pragmaticenigma | saint_: if you let the installer run without any interference, it will take care of everything for you. Worry about anything else, AFTER you have successfully gotten Ubuntu installed | 13:19 |
| xypron | saint_: /boot must use a file system that supports symbolic links. FAT does not. | 13:19 |
| saint_ | ok. so i m at the part where it says once again "Erase HD and install". doing this now.. | 13:20 |
| mgedmin | does anything actually use the /boot/vmlinuz symlinks? grub.cfg uses full filenames | 13:20 |
| pragmaticenigma | might be dependent on the distribution, I have sym links in my EL9 /boot | 13:22 |
| JanC | yeah, the UEFI boot partition would be mounted under /boot/efi indeed | 13:22 |
| JanC | (on Ubuntu) | 13:22 |
| mgedmin | I also have the symlinks, but I wonder why | 13:23 |
| mgedmin | the last tool I remember that actually used them was LILO | 13:23 |
| mgedmin | (and the symlinks lived in / back then, not in /boot) | 13:23 |
| JanC | mgedmin: they are probably there in case you use lilo | 13:23 |
| JanC | or maybe some other tool that expects them | 13:23 |
| mgedmin | ... good point, the poor person who is forced to use lilo already has enough on their plate without forcing them to write scripts to manually symlink the latest kernel | 13:24 |
| JanC | it's not like they use any relevant amount of disk space, so easier to keep them than risk breaking someone's system :) | 13:24 |
| cbreak | how regularly are the intel microcode packages updated? | 13:32 |
| pragmaticenigma | from what I know, they're only updated when one is released by intel | 13:33 |
| cbreak | it seems the debian package has changed fairly recently, but it contains old microcode for my cpu (from 2024.02.22) | 13:33 |
| cbreak | pragmaticenigma: hmm, ok, thanks | 13:33 |
| saint_ | i need to ask, because i m new with efi . coming from the good old AMI bios .... how does this EFI boot sequence works exactly? Do I need to go to the bios after the OS is instaslled , and select "add boot" and tell it where to pickup the file ? | 13:33 |
| pragmaticenigma | saint_: no, you don't need to do anything | 13:34 |
| saint_ | so I just finished instaslling again for the 2304923 time, selecting "Erase hard drive and install" ... and it rebooted to th scnreen "No bootable device found" | 13:34 |
| saint_ | if i go to the bios / boot sequence / EUFI / Add boot option , it says "File system not found" | 13:35 |
| mgedmin | EFI boot works like this: there are some boot variables stored in an NVRAM chip that specify a list of boot entries | 13:38 |
| pragmaticenigma | saint_: at least you're at a state someone can probably help you going forward. boot issues like that are beyond my knowledge, hang around, leftyfb or someone else can hopefully provide some assistance when their available | 13:39 |
| mgedmin | each specifies a hard drive, partition, and filename | 13:39 |
| mgedmin | you can see these variables with `efibootmgr` in linux | 13:39 |
| mgedmin | BootOrder: 0003,0000,001A,0018,... etc | 13:39 |
| mgedmin | Boot0003* Ubuntu HD(1,GPT,13013970-73dd-4e99-9221-efb4043fb30c,0x800,0x82000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi) | 13:39 |
| mgedmin | so the firmware loads shimx64.efi, which then loads grubx64.efi, which then loads grub.cfg that lives in the EFI system partition (a small VFAT with some special partition type flags) | 13:40 |
| cbreak | efibootmgr can also add new boot entries, if you know how. But the ubuntu installer should do that on its own already if it is booted in efi mode | 13:41 |
| mgedmin | the grub.cfg in the efi partition is like 3 lines that scan your partitions for a given filesystem UUID, to find your real /boot/grub/grub.cfg, and then loads that | 13:41 |
| mgedmin | there's also a BootNext: variable that can be used to override BootOrder for the next boot, once | 13:42 |
| mgedmin | ubuntu uses it for firmware updates (there's a Linux-Firmware-Updater boot entry that boots shimx64.efi and asks it to chain-load fwupdx64.efi instead of the default grubx64.efi) | 13:42 |
| mgedmin | that's the short version of how booting works in the EFI world | 13:42 |
| saint_ | so i rebooted in ubuntu live. launch gparted. i see the boot partition being flagged as bios_grub <- shouldn't this be boot / esp for efi? | 13:43 |
| mgedmin | the ESP is mounted on /boot/efi | 13:43 |
| mgedmin | bios_grub is something else | 13:43 |
| mgedmin | and only used for legacy boot on GPT-partitioned disks | 13:43 |
| leftyfb | saint_: any particular reason you need EFI? Why not just disable EFI in the BIOS and proceed with legacy? | 13:44 |
| mgedmin | with MBR partition tables there was a bit of space between the MBR and the first partition, and boot loaders like grub used that space to stash themselves | 13:44 |
| mgedmin | with GPT partition tables there's no reserved space so grub uses a special partition type for its stage 2 parts | 13:44 |
| saint_ | leftyfb not particular reason. i just read about efi , and all over the bios here it says efi is better and legacy will be depreciated. | 13:45 |
| leftyfb | saint_: lets try legacy | 13:45 |
| saint_ | so i mounted the partition that this full install created. there is a /boot/grub, but no /boot/efi | 13:45 |
| mgedmin | EFI _is_ better, I like the transparency of boot variables and efibootmgr | 13:45 |
| mgedmin | are you sure you're using EFI boot? | 13:45 |
| pragmaticenigma | It probably is use EFT boot, I'm wondering if they're installing Ubuntu in the legacy mode | 13:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | *EFI | 13:46 |
| leftyfb | yeah, that might be it. The USB installer might be booted using legacy and not EFI | 13:47 |
| leftyfb | at which point I don't think the installer would know to use EFI | 13:47 |
| leftyfb | saint_: how are you telling your laptop to boot to USB? | 13:47 |
| saint_ | leftyfb i press 57 time the F12 key . then under LEGACY there is a USB drive showing up. | 13:47 |
| leftyfb | bingo | 13:48 |
| leftyfb | saint_: what are the other options? | 13:48 |
| saint_ | leftyfb give me a minute. i need to reboot it to see the options again | 13:48 |
| JanC | if you have no special reason to use legacy BIOS emulation, it's probably better to disable it | 13:48 |
| leftyfb | in the grand scheme of things, with a machine that supports both, they will both boot the OS and it doesn't really matter | 13:50 |
| JanC | it will lack certain features | 13:51 |
| leftyfb | none that most people use | 13:52 |
| saint_ | i looked into the live ubuntu under /sys/firmware , and there is no efi folder . hence to me it s booting in legacy mode. | 13:52 |
| saint_ | i m going to try manually to do the partitions through the installer rather than gparted | 13:52 |
| leftyfb | stop | 13:52 |
| JanC | why manually? | 13:52 |
| saint_ | JanC because i tried automatically for 10+hrs without success | 13:53 |
| leftyfb | saint_: you were asked to check for the other options booting the usb | 13:53 |
| saint_ | leftyfb ok, let me do that quick. | 13:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | saint_: it will make no difference what you do, we've already figured out the problem and you're choosing to ignore the advice | 13:53 |
| alguien | Does anyone know why containerd would be running on a random port (there are no docker containers running)? | 13:54 |
| webchat1 | Hello, I upgraded fro ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04 using do-release-upgrade command last month. Everything worked fine until my cursor started disappearing this week. It's as if ubuntu doesn't recognize my touchpad any longer | 13:54 |
| saint_ | pragmaticenigma enlight me please. i must have missed the problem figured out. and i followed all advices. | 13:54 |
| leftyfb | saint_: the problem we are assuming at the moment is you are booting the USB in legacy mode, not EFI. So the installer is installing a legacy-compatible install, not EFI | 13:55 |
| tomreyn | webchat1: do you have another pointing device, like a mouse, that you can connect? does it still move there? | 13:55 |
| saint_ | leftyfb Legacy external device boots: usb storage device , onboad nic, usb nic //// other optons: bios setup / bios flash update / diafnostic / change boot mode settings | 13:55 |
| leftyfb | saint_: I would look in your bios for a way to enable EFI USB booting | 13:56 |
| webchat1 | tomreyn: I my laptop has a touchpad screen, so I am using that to navigate at the moment | 13:57 |
| leftyfb | webchat1: boot an ubuntu 22.04 live usb and see if your cursor works | 13:57 |
| tomreyn | webchat1: a touchscreen, i see. so this sounds like the issue is specific to your touchpad. | 13:57 |
| saint_ | ha - now that mgedmin explained the efi thing. i have the usb in. i m in the bios . i went to boot sequence . and there when i click on ADD BOOT OPTION I see the USB as FS0. I can see folders, and if i go down to boot/efi , i see 3 files mmx64, bootx64, and grubx64 | 13:58 |
| leftyfb | saint_: there should be options elsewhere | 13:59 |
| leftyfb | under boot settings or USB settings, not boot sequence | 13:59 |
| leftyfb | once you enable USB EFI booting, the option to boot the USB in EFI mode should show up on it's own | 13:59 |
| tomreyn | webchat1: i'm guessing that you may had a custom software / driver installed, or custom configurations applied, on 22.04, which no longer works this way on 24.04. do you remember applying such customizations or installing third party software for your touchpad? | 14:00 |
| webchat1 | tomreyn. Yes, everything seems fine except for my touchpad | 14:00 |
| leftyfb | webchat1: boot an ubuntu 22.04 live usb and see if your cursor works | 14:00 |
| webchat1 | leftyfb: Alright I will try that | 14:01 |
| webchat1 | tomreyn: I was worried about that too but I had been using 24.04 for 3 weeks with everything working fine. Actually, I could resolve it yesterday by just rebooting my system. But that doesn't seem to work anymore today | 14:04 |
| leftyfb | webchat1: is this a Dell? | 14:04 |
| leftyfb | particularly a Dell XPS | 14:05 |
| tomreyn | journalctl -b | grep "DMI:" would tell | 14:06 |
| webchat1 | leftyfb: No, it's an HP-Pavilion-x360-Convertible | 14:06 |
| leftyfb | still, could be the same issue I've noticed on XPS's. Lift the laptop up and look at the laptop straight on like you're looking over the trackpad and at the bottom and center of the screen. Do you notice any buldging or warping? | 14:07 |
| leftyfb | sometimes when the batteries get worn out, they bulge and press up on the trackpad, causing issues with it | 14:08 |
| webchat1 | leftyfb: Everything looks straight to me | 14:11 |
| webchat1 | I just tried rebooting and my cursor has returned along with it't touchpad sensitivity. Though I wish there is a more permanent solution to this | 14:14 |
| leftyfb | webchat1: run this in a terminal and leave it running: sudo dmesg -Tw if the cursor stops again, look at the terminal for any messages pertaining to your trackpad or HID device | 14:15 |
| webchat1 | leftyfb: Alright, thank you | 14:19 |
| saint_ | Finally got this crap to work. | 14:21 |
| saint_ | so i dont know if this is related to this laptop only, or all EFI boots. | 14:21 |
| saint_ | I had to install the USB flash drive on the side of the laptop, THEN go into the boot sequence of the bios, add a EFI Boot option that pointed to the USB boot/efi/grub64.efi file , then boot on the usb , then install Ubuntu, and now it works. | 14:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | were you using a USB hub before? | 14:25 |
| leftyfb | there should be somewhere in your BIOS that enables EFI booting from USB as an option so you don't have to do that manually | 14:25 |
| saint_ | pragmaticenigma no usb hub. flash drive directly into the laptop | 14:25 |
| saint_ | leftyfb i m not sure where. but now i can boot normally. i m not sure if it s a bios stuff , or if it s because it's a rugged laptop. no clue. | 14:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | This is for a Dell laptop? | 14:26 |
| leftyfb | it's certainly a limitation of the laptop | 14:26 |
| saint_ | but thank you all for your 2nd pair of eyes. | 14:26 |
| saint_ | pragmaticenigma yes | 14:26 |
| leftyfb | saint_: in the end, this ended up being a limitation of your laptop | 14:27 |
| saint_ | pragmaticenigma Dell Latitude 5420 Rugged | 14:27 |
| leftyfb | saint_: maybe look for BIOS updates for your laptop | 14:27 |
| saint_ | leftyfb maybe. LIke I said, last I played with a bios was from the time of AMI Bios. Since then, I have hundred of virtual machines running in the cloud whatever i need. never had to touch a laptop / i only have apple / since then . | 14:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | honestly, I think its just a dell thing... I have had just as much issue on my 2 year old Dell XPS dekstop | 14:28 |
| saint_ | leftyfb there is 1 update, but the release note says it's a security update | 14:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | the bios is really un-intuitive | 14:28 |
| saint_ | pragmaticenigma yes . also my ignorance of UEFI did not help at all. | 14:28 |
| saint_ | Let me see if i can upload pictures. | 14:29 |
| pragmaticenigma | really shouldn't need to have knowledge... I can't remember exactly how I got mine working. It was a lot of trial and error. What's annoying is Dell's EFI screens do not warn you that changing one option may toggle another option elsewhere. Its been a while, but I remember toggling something and then the machine dropped everything into legacy mode, which isn't what I wanted | 14:30 |
| saint_ | https://pasteboard.co/3AkHO8RiC7To.jpg | 14:31 |
| saint_ | https://pasteboard.co/BODOU80rp2Mk.jpg | 14:32 |
| saint_ | so in the 2nd screen shot , i had to go to the USB /boot/efi folder, and pick up grub*.efi . then back at the boot screen when i pressed F12 , THEN under UEFI I saw this choice I created (Ubuntu) | 14:33 |
| saint_ | from there, live ubuntu finally shows efi under /sys/firmware | 14:33 |
| saint_ | good to know for all , and lesson learned for me. | 14:33 |
| saint_ | it just took me 24hrs to figure this shit out. | 14:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | it shouldn't need all that, but if it is working, guess we can just leave it at that | 14:34 |
| saint_ | So now, the question is... if I need to install CAINE on another partition. Do I need to go back into the bios and add a new option? Or can I boot on USB / UEFI / flash drive, then install caine , and let it modify the grub partition ? | 14:35 |
| ablyss | make the bigman cry | 14:42 |
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| antonispgs | 24.10 is really polished | 15:25 |
| antonispgs | asnd fairly bug free for my use cases | 15:25 |
| lotuspsychje | !discuss | antonispgs | 15:25 |
| ubottu | antonispgs: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 15:25 |
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| brenndo | hello need help have question | 15:51 |
| brenndo | is there a program wich can detect movingments on the monitor and then randomly imitate it | 15:52 |
| brenndo | i want this to move randomly and steady -> https://giphy.com/gifs/LrtpgjYKVGGWCydxAb | 15:53 |
| valerio | ciao | 15:59 |
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| Jammer | Upgraded 22.04 -> 24.04 and now kernel fails to find hard drive on boot, seeing bunch of stuff like "libachi: disagrees about version of symbol ata_std_postreset" "libachi: Unknown symbol ata_std_postreset" for all(?) modules | 16:10 |
| Jammer | it goes to recovery console, but my usb keyboard doesn't work there either | 16:12 |
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| mgedmin | does it work in the boot menu? can you try booting an older kernel? | 16:35 |
| Jammer | yes, same problem with previous kernel | 16:45 |
| Jammer | something I noticed in there before those is also "wmi: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - taining kernel" | 16:47 |
| mgedmin | if you turn off secure boot in the firmware setup, would it boot then? | 16:48 |
| mgedmin | still, ata/ahci modules should be properly signed with canonical's keys already | 16:48 |
| mgedmin | it's only modules you build yourself with dkms that need a machine owner's key manually enroled | 16:48 |
| mgedmin | sorry, this kind of situation is a bit outside my experience and I don't know what could've caused it | 16:49 |
| Jammer | I'm not sure the computer even has secure boot, let me see if I can find it in UEFI | 16:49 |
| Jammer | it's quite old like 12yrs | 16:49 |
| mgedmin | does 24.04 boot properly from usb? can it see your hard drives? | 16:50 |
| mgedmin | I'm trying to narrow down whether it's a hardware compatibility issue, or something specific to your install that got corrupted somewhere | 16:50 |
| mgedmin | modinfo wmi says "ACPI-WMI Mapping Driver" and I have no idea what that means | 16:51 |
| mgedmin | "signer: Build time autogenerated kernel key" | 16:51 |
| mgedmin | "sig_key: 31:F6:40:71:96:4B:C1:A1:FB:F2:2E:82:AD:FA:DC:82:6E:17:98:85" | 16:51 |
| Jammer | I'll try making 24.04 livecd, only used 22.04 one | 16:52 |
| mgedmin | it is loaded on my thinkpad and used by intel_wmi_thunderbolt and video | 16:52 |
| mgedmin | so something about thunderbolt video? | 16:52 |
| mgedmin | (I'm on 24.04) | 16:52 |
| mgedmin | no mentions of 'wmi' in my journalctl | 16:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | UEFI has been around since 2006, secure boot was added around 2012 (based on OS adoption mostly happening in 2012) | 16:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | Though I don't think the issue is secure boot in this instance. They wouldn't get to GRUB if it was | 16:57 |
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| Jammer | is there some good way to slow the kernel prints? I tried boot_delay=1000 but it just hang at the start really long and then printed everything still way too fast | 17:00 |
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| pragmaticenigma | when booting from live or from the local machine? | 17:02 |
| Jammer | local | 17:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | usually it's written to /var/log/dmesg ... but not sure what to do when the drive cannot be found | 17:05 |
| mgedmin | netconsole is, supposedly, good for this -- when you have another machine in the network | 17:09 |
| Jammer | 24.04.1 livecd booted up fine | 17:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | Jammer: did you install a custom kernel, or do anything to install a different kernel in the previous setup? | 17:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | *diffrent kernel package | 17:10 |
| Jammer | no it's just plain | 17:11 |
| Jammer | it might have the properietary nvidia drivers | 17:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | that's possible | 17:13 |
| Jammer | other than that shouldn't have anything special installed | 17:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | it's possible it could be fixed, i just don't know how. if it was me, I'd use the live image to gather my data and back it up, then install fresh | 17:16 |
| Guest969 | Hi, any ubuntu server around where i can log in? | 17:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | Guest969: is there something specific the community can try and help you with? | 17:17 |
| enigma9o7 | free? | 17:17 |
| enigma9o7 | or you wanna buy a shell account? | 17:17 |
| Guest969 | maybe there is a experimental beowulf cluster running ubuntu, no. | 17:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | Guest969: That'd be something you'd have to find on your own. This isn't the place to seek assistance for that. | 17:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | Guest969: you could try asking if people know of an online lab or similar for experimentation in #ubuntu-offtopic | 17:28 |
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| nyo3 | hi I discovered more about the situation I described this morning, in short I have slow SDDM login, kde loads in 2minutes. it is related to kwin crashing several times. actually now I have no tray loaded .... this happened after installing weylus which basically installs only an udev file... and some bin... | 18:06 |
| nyo3 | where should I look to see details of kwin crashing? which file log? | 18:07 |
| mgedmin | I would check journalctl first | 18:07 |
| nyo3 | ok here it is journalctl -b 0 |grep kwin , interesting opengl frame buffer and drkonqi https://termbin.com/8u9w | 18:11 |
| nyo3 | I go to eat and I will be back | 18:11 |
| nyo3 | also kwin_x11[2360]: Unable to start Dr. Konqi | 18:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | nyo3: recommendation is to remove weylus. The project hasn't had a release since 2021, and because it doesn't exist as a package in Ubuntu's ecosystem, it really can't be supported here. If you want help, you're going to need to reach out to the Weylus project community for help. | 19:06 |
| Jammer | Was there default backup program in 22.04 ? Got bunch of backups but I'm not sure what program to use to restore | 19:45 |
| tomreyn | Jammer: Déjà Dup / Duplicity was (is?) available as a backup application on Ubuntu | 19:49 |
| Jammer | hmm when I choose the backup directory in Deja Dup I just get "Failed with unknown error" | 20:00 |
| Jammer | also how bad is it that the external drive for backups is ntfs? | 20:01 |
| nyo3 | pragmaticenigma: thanks | 20:07 |
| Jammer | apparently my father had unpacked one of the backup files into the same directory causing the error, sabotaging my attempts to restore his backups >< | 20:18 |
| pragmaticenigma | oh dear | 20:18 |
| Jammer | launching the program with DEJA_DUP_DEBUG=1 was quite helpful | 20:19 |
| Jammer | so weird not to actually show errors | 20:19 |
| Jammer | well think it was assertation failure in this case | 20:20 |
| tomreyn | Jammer: what's in the directory? deja dup is a frontend for duplicity. you will probably get better eroor messages from that | 20:21 |
| Jammer | I just moved the unpacked folder out from the backups and it seem to work after that | 20:25 |
| pragmaticenigma | I think what's more odd is that it will unpack into the folder containing the backups. | 20:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | feels like it shouldn't allow that | 20:26 |
| Jammer | no I think he unpacked it manually there to look what is inside | 20:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | ah, okay | 20:27 |
| Jammer | at least it was nicely in a subfolder making my job little easier to clean up :p | 20:28 |
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| kasld | hello | 20:42 |
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| jumpcutking | Anyone know how to activate OTP on Ubuntu server? Specifically on ssh terminal login with pub and private key exchange? | 21:08 |
| jumpcutking | (I may be using the wrong name, but like Authy or Google Authenticator, I don’t use either app but OTC/OTP is what I’m looking for. | 21:08 |
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| tomreyn | jumpcutking: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/configure-ssh-2fa | 21:13 |
| jumpcutking | I’ve done this tutorial | 21:15 |
| jumpcutking | And it still isn’t working | 21:15 |
| tomreyn | "it isn't working" is not a lot of information to work with. | 21:16 |
| tomreyn | describe what you expected to happen, and what happened instead. | 21:16 |
| tomreyn | also your ubuntu version may be relevant | 21:17 |
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| nyo3 | I have several kwin crashes even after reinstalling kde-desktop. should I try to reinstall kwin-x11 ? | 22:06 |
| nyo3 | ok I give it a try | 22:09 |
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| pragmaticenigma | success nyo3 ? | 22:46 |
| nyo3 | pragmaticenigma: no, I reinstalled kde plasma without results | 22:47 |
| nyo3 | and I tried also kwin-x11 | 22:47 |
| nyo3 | it remains sddm but the crash notification is related to kwin | 22:48 |
| nyo3 | I hope it is not hardware problem, I did a ram test and went fine... | 22:48 |
| nyo3 | tomorrow I change the power supply since it is not very good imho | 22:48 |
| nyo3 | could it be something related to sddm? | 22:49 |
| nyo3 | https://termbin.com/ns2x | 22:50 |
| nyo3 | i logged it various time since reboot so probably some messages are repeated | 22:51 |
| nyo3 | this is kwin https://termbin.com/t9lq | 22:52 |
| nyo3 | kwin_core: XCB error: 152 (BadDamage), sequence: | 22:53 |
| nyo3 | I am falling asleep, the pc will remain online so if someone has something to say it is welcome | 22:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | I think the issue is that app that was installed went and replaced or changed configuration files and other parts. If a reinstall of KDE and kwin didn't fix it, it's likely something in a startup script | 22:54 |
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