[00:25] <saint_> leftyfb it s been 4hrs, and with the adm video driver, it's still up and running. that s a first. thx
[00:48] <boredboy1> greetings
[00:49] <boredboy1> is there a way to make connections from android to xrdp (on ubuntu) less laggy?
[00:49] <boredboy1> somehow, connections to windows rdp sessions are smooth and less laggy
[00:49] <enigma9o7> if not already, used wired connection directly between android device and pc.
[00:49] <enigma9o7> usb
[00:50] <boredboy1> enigma9o7: it is rdp to a remote machine
[00:50] <boredboy1> but even on wifi LAN, xrdp appears slow
[00:51] <enigma9o7> So direct connection would likely help make it less laggy.
[00:51] <boredboy1> but connections to windows rdp servers are always smooth
[00:51] <boredboy1> instant
[00:52] <enigma9o7> Hmmm, well if you want to make those more laggy, perhaps try using a satellite connection?
[00:52] <boredboy1> it is as-if a picture on the screen doesnt appear instantly but updates line by line
[00:52] <boredboy1> enigma9o7: the screen updates asif going line by line instead of coming instantly
[00:53] <boredboy1> i am using a high speed internet @300-500Mbps with 40-50ms latency
[00:58] <boredboy1> enigma9o7: the server/ubuntu LTS version displays this result in an internet speed test: Download   260Mbps   Upload70.3Mbps     Latency5.00ms
[00:58] <boredboy1> in speed.cloudflare.com speedtest
[01:57] <Guest7> Hello how are you  ?
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[03:11] <josh_> Good evening folks! Hope you are all doing well!Can anyone tell me how long is the support for Ubuntu 24.0.4 till the next release?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> josh_: release cycle is 6 months.
[03:16] <Bashing-om> !releases
[03:16] <ubottu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (non-LTS) or 5 years (LTS). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[03:34] <xxy> i hope add wireless to bridge ,  that wireless as client receive upstream internet traffic , executing command "sudo brctl addif br0 wlp3s0
[03:34] <xxy> " , error prompt "can't add wlp3s0 to bridge br0: Operation not supported", how to fix it
[03:38] <rbox> you generally can't bridge most wireless devices
[03:55] <josh_> Ok thanks for information. I must say that I am pretty impressed with the 24.04 version so far, nothing to complain about and bugs free. I don't know if anyone feels the same way
[05:13] <mrec> wgrant: hi, are you there?
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[06:52] <azidhaka> Hi everyone! Having a problem with apparmor in complain (learning) mode. It acts like enforce mode - in the logs: apparmor="ALLOWED" requested_mask="wr" denied_mask="wr". I can't create the profiles with aa-logprof, because everything is denied
[06:53] <azidhaka> Here is the apparmor config for apache2 for example: /usr/sbin/apache2 flags=(complain) { ... } Still, every action of the binary is denied
[07:43] <Apachez> bprompt: freezes about every 10 seconds and if writing at the same time the same keystroke gets repeated
[07:43] <tomreyn> azidhaka: while this would also affect desktops, and #ubuntu (primarily volunteer) supports both Server and Desktop, you might get more attention of someone able to provide a good answer to your question in #ubuntu-server
[07:43] <Apachez> using ubuntu 24.10
[07:43] <tomreyn> !next | Apachez
[07:43] <ubottu> Apachez: Oracular Oriole is the codename for Ubuntu 24.10. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality.
[07:43] <Apachez> err
[07:43] <Apachez> 24.04 :)
[07:44] <tomreyn> so the LTS version, not the unreleased 24.10?
[07:46] <tomreyn> Apachez: also, which kernel version is this?   cat /proc/version
[07:55] <mgedmin> Apachez: I've seen behavior like this once on my thinkpad, and it turned out to be a hardware/firmware problem -- resetting the embedded controller (power off, pull battery, count to five, put it back in, power on) fixed the issue for me back then
[07:55] <mgedmin> I'm not saying your problem is 100% the same
[07:55] <mgedmin> also I wonder how one resets the EC when modern batteries are non-removable
[07:58] <Apachez> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1975935
[07:58] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1975935 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Key repeat discarded, Wayland compositor doesn't seem to be processing events fast enough!" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[07:58] <Apachez> tomreyn: 24.04, currentlyyyyyyy using Linux nuc 6.8.0-45-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Aug 30 12:02:04 UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:58] <Apachez> but this have been going on for some months but getting worser lately
[07:58] <Apachez> will try a dist-upgrade later today
[07:59] <Apachez> seems (just a gut feeling) that this increases with uptime
[07:59] <Apachez> like a fresh restart dont give you tttthese repeated keystrokes
[07:59] <Apachez> above I typed "these"
[08:00] <Apachez> current uptime 9 days
[08:01] <tomreyn> Apachez: run a memtest86(+) overnight (if that's an option in terms of downtime)
[08:02] <Apachez> I havent seen any ram related issues
[08:03] <Apachez> hints regarding others with similar      issues is some malfunction in later versions of gnome and extensions
[08:04] <tomreyn> we should probably see a lot more reports then
[08:04] <tomreyn> if it affected all 24.04 desktops
[08:05] <raph_ael> Hi, i'm trying to do an autoinstall by providing a user-data to the iso, i installed a vm and got the user-data provided, but can't get it to work on new install, i tried a lot of user-data on the net, none work, if anyone can help, thanks
[08:05] <Apachez> at first I suspected a new usb hub but these issues remains even with that being detached
[08:05] <Apachez> temps are alright aswell abbbbbbbbbbout +42C (passively cooled device)
[08:06] <Apachez> and nothing that sticks out when looking at htop
[08:07] <Apachez> ill try a distupgrade now and reboot and see how things evolves
[08:07] <Apachez> but as the link stated, seems to increase with uptime so not many reports could be because many clients perhaps doesnt have a 2 week of uptime of their clients so they rarely runs into this?
[08:08] <Apachez> I was also thinking about governor but thats set to ondemand as it alwaaaaaays have been for the past decadeeeeee or two
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[08:12] <antonispgs> will the 24.10 beta become release automatically?
[08:13] <Apachez> still the same kernel
[08:13] <Apachez> uptime 1 min
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[08:20] <Apachez> so no issues after reboot
[08:21] <Apachez> lets see if they return after a few days of uptime
[08:35] <tomreyn> raph_ael: try #ubuntu-server
[08:38] <raph_ael> tomreyn: thanks
[08:39] <raph_ael> bye
[09:09] <Moha> Which one is better for many small files:
[09:09] <Moha> 1. btrfs
[09:09] <Moha> 2. `mkfs.ext4 -b 1024 -i 1024 -m 0 -I 128 -L data /dev/sdb1`
[09:14] <tomreyn> how small?
[09:14] <tomreyn> and will this file system just be used for those files, or others, too?
[09:15] <tomreyn> and please don't cross-post
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[10:47] <Guest39> hallo
[10:50] <nigga305> hello
[11:19] <Guest24> Hello. I'm having an issue with graphics (lshw shows UNCLAIMED for the display). I had an old x230 Tablet thinkpad with ubuntu 18 LTS working just fine. As I was working my way up to 22.0, I must have screwed up and failed to setup luks and so the install failed. I managed to fix the luks issue, complete the upgrade, but now graphics messed up. I'm
[11:19] <Guest24> at 24.0 LTS rn with a barely working 640x480 (4:3) display.  can someone please help me fix the display issue?
[11:27] <geirha> Guest24: Hm. Which kernel are you currently running? that is, what does   uname -r   output?
[11:29] <Guest24> rn I'm on 6.8.0-48-generic (upgraded to it to see if it could help)
[11:30] <mgedmin> what sort of graphics does this x230 have?
[11:30] <geirha> and   dpkg -l '*6.8.0-48-generic'   shows that linux-image, linux-modules and linux-modules-extras are all installed for that version?
[11:34] <mrec> wgrant: ping
[11:38] <Guest24> mgedmin geirha part1: https://dpaste.com/5V8BV2LVV part2: https://dpaste.com/5X42T7QEW
[11:38] <Guest24> geirha let me give that a try
[11:40] <Guest24> geirha https://dpaste.com/CRL6EVS7V
[11:40] <Guest24> let me install it
[11:47] <Guest24> installed linux-modules-extra  and rebooted. The display is now claimed and things are working well!! Thank you. The boot splah screen still shows a 640x480 graphics. should I rebuild initramfs to fix this?
[11:52] <Guest24> geirha graphics are a little flaky. since this is an older laptop model. do you think I'm better off downgrading to 5.19.x?
[12:01] <mgedmin> weird, my x220 never had any issues with graphics (Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09))
[12:01] <mgedmin> although I haven't upgraded it to 24.04 lts yet (it's still on 22.04 lts)
[12:01] <mgedmin> linux-modules-extra-5.15.0-122-generic is installed, I see
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:42] <Guest24> mgedmin: I think I was missing linux-modules-extra. That did the trick for me. Perhaps older gen graphics drivers were moved there in 6.8.0. don't know for sure
[12:44] <mgedmin> I don't quite understand the purpose of the linux-modules-extra package (why it is split from linux-modules)
[12:45] <mgedmin> but I see if you have the linux-generic metapackage installed, it does depend on linux-module-extra-$kernelver
[12:45] <mgedmin> you should install linux-image-generic
[12:45] <mgedmin> (or linux-generic, which depends on that and on linux-headers-generic)
[12:46] <mgedmin> wow all those metapackages, how did this one get uninstalled on your laptop?
[12:51] <Guest24> mgedmin: iirc either 20.0 or 22.0 dist upgrade froze (no ctrl-at f2 terminal etc) so I had to force power off/on. So maybe that's what broke the upgrade
[12:52] <mgedmin> ouch
[12:52] <mgedmin> maybe also apt install ubuntu-desktop^ just in case something else important got removed
[12:52] <Guest24> rn I'm on xfce and for this older laptop it's a lot more stable
[12:52] <Guest24> hmmm let me see
[12:53] <mgedmin> you may not want to do that if you use xfce instead of the default gnome desktop
[12:53] <mgedmin> but the linux-generic metapackage is important for getting kernel security updates
[12:56] <Guest24> mgedmin I was on gnome-desktop on this laptop. switched to xfce earlier today to see if it's any better
[12:56] <Guest24> so if I install ubuntu-desktop* will it break xfce?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> you can easy install other desktops on your ubuntu flavour
[12:57] <Guest24> https://dpaste.com/4YKKE66GQ
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> but purge could be another story, might result in a frankenubuntu mix
[12:57] <mgedmin> no, desktops should coexist
[12:57] <mgedmin> it will just take a bunch of disk space and time that you might grudge?  idk
[13:00] <Guest24> wth I've been through some tough stuff the last couple days. might as well go down the frankenbuntu rabbit hole
[13:08] <Guest24> after the ubuntu-desktop* install the good news is all desktops work good. occasional crash reports but not as bad as it used to
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest24: you can checkout /var/crash dir to see whats going on exactly
[13:10] <Guest24> the only quirk is the boot splash screen it's still stuck in 640x480 res. it's until lightdm starts that res is proper
[13:11] <Guest24> lotuspsychje ah thanks https://dpaste.com/CRNY9GF62
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> think the xfce panel crash bug is a known one already for some time, crashes but continues to run
[13:13] <Guest24> yeah gstreamer is the thing I need to fix it seems
[13:18] <Guest24> apt-get install gir1.2-gst* and I'm not seeing any crashes now
[13:20] <Guest24> I think I'm good now! Thanks so much for your help!
[13:23] <nteodosio> Seeking a volunteer in Noble with a printer to confirm gnome-control-center/noble-proposed printer panel for the SRU in bug 2080611.
[13:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2080611 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Noble) "[SRU] Backport gnome-control-center 46.4 to Noble" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2080611
[13:59] <Natt0> Is it possible to pin a kernel so it doesn't get removed from the boot menu? I currenly have to select the 6.8.0-44 kernel as the 6.8.0-45 one gives me a black screen
[14:06] <mgedmin> Natt0: all the installed kernels should be listed in the boot menu (under the advanced options submenu), and you should be able to prevent a kernel from being uninstalled if you mark it as manually installed
[14:06] <mgedmin> you can do that with `apt install linux-image-6.8.0-44`
[14:06] <mgedmin> (or with apt-mark manual ...)
[14:07] <mgedmin> do report a bug about the black screen please
[14:23] <learner|2> hey guys, can you help me figure out why this is not working? https://pastebin.com/raw/FNvXbefT
[14:25] <leftyfb> learner|2: you REALLY should look into ansible
[14:25] <learner|2> i will later
[14:25] <learner|2> let me get this project done, and i promise i will learn ansible
[14:26] <leftyfb> learner|2: you already asked in #bash. That's the appropriate place for help with your bash script. No need to cross-post here since it's not ubuntu-specific
[14:26] <learner|2> ok
[14:27] <learner|2> i pasted here, cause i got a pasteban response in bash
[14:27] <mgedmin> suggest using read -p "Please provide password: " -s email_password2
[14:28] <Natt0> Thanks the apt-mark manual worked, and I also solved the black screen on that kernel by removing all nvidia packages (it's a laptop with both intel and nvidia), somehow it's tied in on the kernel version
[14:28] <learner|2> mgedmin: thanks
[14:28] <mgedmin> but also doveadm pw will ask for the password itself if you don't provide one, so why this dance?
[14:29] <learner|2> it's because i'm writing an automated script, eventually all these will be provided via a config file
[14:29] <mgedmin> as for the rest, I don't know any context -- are the first three lines part of a script?  is the last command not part of the same script?  are you setting a variable in a script and expecting to use the value after the script exits?
[14:29] <learner|2> it's going to be an upstart server script
[14:29] <leftyfb> uh
[14:29] <leftyfb> upstart?
[14:29] <leftyfb> learner|2: why not systemd?
[14:30] <learner|2> yes, i'm using linode vps bashscript pattern
[14:30] <learner|2> you can deploy an ubuntu server, and then get all the things installed there and have a running server
[14:30]  * mgedmin thinks they meant startup
[14:30] <leftyfb> no idea what that is
[14:30] <learner|2> kind of a precursor to creating docker images
[14:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> people still use upstart?
[14:31] <NoImNotNineVolt> Final release: 1.13.2 / September 4, 2014; 10 years ago
[14:31] <NoImNotNineVolt> oof.
[14:32] <NoImNotNineVolt> learning upstart in 2024 may not be practical.
[14:32] <learner|2> i still need help with why the password doesn't seem to be passed / stored with the $ directive
[14:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> passwords passed on the command line end up in your bash history, don't they?
[14:34] <Apachez> yeah thats why you should change password interactively
[14:34] <learner|2> it might, but i can clear the bash history at the end of the installation
[14:35] <Apachez> but I think there is a cleanup for bash, Mikrotik uses that for example (but could be custom in their case)
[14:35] <Apachez> that is the binary can like "delete last history line"
[14:36] <leftyfb> learner|2 is getting help in #bash
[14:36] <leftyfb> learner|2: please stop crossposting
[14:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> better hope nobody's tailing history i guess
[14:38] <learner|2> the problem here is that i know doveadm gets the password, cause in this example it works: TMP1="hi" && TMP2=$(echo "$TMP1") && echo "$TMP2" this returns hi
[14:41] <JonathanD> 45
[14:43] <leftyfb> JonathanD: woah, long time lurker :)
[14:43] <leftyfb> it's been 2 years since you accidentally posted in here last :)
[14:43] <JonathanD> Hah :)
[14:43] <JonathanD> How's it going?
[14:46] <learner|2> btw, to clear bash history, you can use "history -c && history -w"
[15:57] <Apachez> test
[16:02] <ashafq> Apachez: Test failed. Initiating segfault.
[16:03] <Apachez> initiate karma
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[16:35] <Guest58> hi, does anyone know if ubuntu runs on Microsoft Surface ARM as a VM?
[16:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> does microsoft surface arm support virtualization?
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> NoImNotNineVolt: once ubuntu installed on a device, you can run a VM on it
[16:56] <NoImNotNineVolt> lotuspsychje: my question was in response to Guest58's question; i didn't see he had left.
[17:02] <krzystof> 67
[17:03] <krzystof> hi friends
[17:57] <xKise> hi there!
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> welcome xKise
[18:00] <xKise> im starting to mess with my mac m2! I am able via u-boot to start grub efi and launch the kernel and ..... nothing :(
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> xKise: wich ubuntu release are you trying?
[18:02] <xKise> is there a way to use gdb to connect to u-boot or grub to see what happened?
[18:03] <xKise> ubuntu 24.04 asahi
[18:03] <xKise> lotuspsychje: https://ubuntuasahi.org/
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> xKise: the volunteers can only support ubuntu and its !flavours here
[18:05] <xKise> lotuspsychje: yeah! i know ! np
[18:13] <xKise> bye have nice night!
[18:24] <xbox> hi
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[19:18] <josh_> Good afternoon! Has anyone found issues yet with the new version of Ubuntu: 24.04?
[19:22] <ramblebamble> josh_ the testing of issues/bugs does not show their absence. I am sure there are issues. Every software has them, but that does not mean that they are discovered. What is the actual use-case/situation for your question?
[19:24] <bprompt> josh_: everything works here, peachy
[19:26] <josh_> Mine works perfectly fine and I am amazed by its overall elegance and neatness... I was just curious whether or not someone may have experienced something different
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[21:05] <vvn> hi there -- I use the middle click (hold) plus trackpad to scroll on ubuntu 24.04, which is very convenient. Unfortunately there's a bug where it seems like the middle click button is still pressed something when I release it. I have to wait a moment for the trackpad to stop scrolling. Anyone else experiencing that?
[21:05] <vvn> s/something/sometimes/
[23:26] <zorin3> Hi, there
[23:42] <zorin3> Hi. How can I update my system?
[23:43] <leftyfb> zorin3: sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade
[23:43] <leftyfb> zorin3: you'll need to be more specific than that
[23:45] <zorin3> leftyfb, what do you mean "to be more specific than that"?
[23:45] <leftyfb> zorin3: what OS are you running? Update in what way exactly?
[23:48] <zorin3> I have zorinos 16.3 core. I want to upgrade to 17.2 core but this app in my system for it don't work
[23:50] <leftyfb> zorin3: sorry, but we can only support official Ubuntu flavors here. Please seek support with ZorinOS from ZorinOS forums