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arraybolt3ubuntu-release: ^ fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/+bug/2084001, this can't wait until after release since it's in the instalelr and this potentially messes up users of several non-English languages. It also is a fairly silent failure so it's hard to realize anything even went wrong or what. This will mandate a respin of klünitybuntu, thankfully04:46
-ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2084001 in calamares-settings-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "fixconkeys-part1 malfunctions if more than one keyboard layout is active at once at installation time" [Undecided, New]04:46
arraybolt3Ubuntu Unity isn't that far along in testing and Lubuntu's impact isn't going to be horrible (and what impact thereis I can help with). Kubuntu... is going to be hit pretty hard. I'm willing to take on all the retesting there if necessary since I think this is important.04:46
arraybolt3erm, I sent that before the line showed up04:46
arraybolt3and great, someone else did an upload behind my back so the upload I just did failed. Sigh, grumble, moan...04:47
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (oracular-proposed/universe) [1:24.10.5 => 1:24.10.6] (lubuntu, ubuntustudio)05:19
arraybolt3ubuntu-release: ^ there, finally did the upload I described just above05:20
tjaaltonrbasak: hi, could you maybe check ubuntu-drivers-common on jammy queue early on your day?07:00
utkarsh30arraybolt3: sorry, can you gimme a bit more context?07:31
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utkarsh2102looking at 208400107:32
utkarsh2102arraybolt3: oh, I have the context in the scrollback07:34
utkarsh2102ok, will look through this07:35
utkarsh2102and I note that {k,l,unity}ubuntu will need to be respun07:35
utkarsh2102arraybolt3: are you around right now?07:42
RikMillsutkarsh2102: they are in the USa so may have gone to sleep07:44
RikMillsthough people in IT keep weird hours ;)07:44
sil2100RikMills: heey, so we wanted to know more about LP: #208400107:45
-ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2084001 in calamares-settings-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "fixconkeys-part1 malfunctions if more than one keyboard layout is active at once at installation time" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208400107:45
RikMillssil2100: no more than you do. just woke up to it07:45
utkarsh2102heh07:45
sil2100RikMills: so arraybolt3 uploaded a fix for it into the queue and requested a respin, mentioning it as a release blocker. I just was curious if this is something that regressed in oracular? Did something change in how calamares works? Or something in setxkbmap -query?07:45
sil2100RikMills: do you know from the Kubuntu POV?07:46
RikMillssil2100: to be honest, I have not had much to do with getting calameres working for kubuntu.last release or this07:47
RikMillsand I have not tested a non uk-english install07:47
RikMillsmyself07:47
sil2100RikMills: do you by any chance know which strings to pull to maybe know more? ;) Looking to know more since I'd like to make a call about the fix in the queue07:48
sil2100As it would lead to respinning the 3 calamares flavors07:48
utkarsh2102sil2100: I pinged the flavor leads in Matrix07:48
utkarsh2102all the 3 flavors^07:48
utkarsh2102sgmoore is probably around07:48
sil2100Thank you07:48
utkarsh2102and rs20096 should be, too07:49
RikMillsyes07:49
RikMillshowever, the people who are very familiar with the interals are all USA based, so may not be responding quickly07:50
RikMillsI hope to be wrong there07:50
utkarsh2102RikMills: yes but we're _hoping_ someone just does :)07:53
RikMillsindeed07:53
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dotnet9 (oracular-proposed/universe) [9.0.100-9.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu2 => 9.0.100-9.0.0~rc2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)08:21
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dotnet9 [source] (oracular-proposed) [9.0.100-9.0.0~rc2-0ubuntu1]08:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dotnet8 (oracular-proposed/main) [8.0.108-8.0.8-0ubuntu3 => 8.0.110-8.0.10-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)08:40
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dotnet8 [source] (oracular-proposed) [8.0.110-8.0.10-0ubuntu1]08:41
bdrungutkarsh2102, the tzdata upload was meant as 0-day SRU08:46
utkarsh2102bdrung: oh, right, okay08:46
utkarsh2102can you please re-upload with a LP bug08:46
bdrungthe LP bug is referenced in 2024b-1ubuntu1 (included in the changes) - since that did not migrate yet. Is that enough?08:47
rbasaktjaalton: ack, though not starting my SRU shift for a few hours yet. I've been pre-empted by some other work :-/08:49
tjaaltonokya08:49
tjaalton-ay08:49
tjaaltonprobably doesn't matter anyway08:49
rbasakI was going to ask if you needed this sooner, but I guess not then?08:50
utkarsh2102rbasak: whilst we have you here, there's a DMB vote waiting for you08:50
utkarsh2102bdmurray: sameeeeeeeeeeeee08:51
rbasakThat's also on my list :-/08:51
tjaaltonwell, the tester is in .tw I think, so it's EOD already08:51
utkarsh2102bdrung: oh sure, i didn't see any LP reference in the changes file. perhaps missed it. but if it was there, then sure!!!08:51
bdrungutkarsh2102, okay. re-uploaded08:52
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tzdata (oracular-proposed/main) [2024b-1ubuntu1 => 2024b-1ubuntu2] (core, i386-whitelist)08:54
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected yt-dlp [sync] (oracular-proposed) [2024.10.07-1]08:54
utkarsh2102bdrung: thanks, can confirm the LP bug in the .changes file now08:55
bdrungthe changes file hasn't changed :)08:55
utkarsh2102yeah, likely me not seeing it properly earlier :)08:56
utkarsh2102also, there was no communication before or perhaps I missed that, too?08:56
utkarsh2102anyway, we're all good for now08:56
ginggsbdrung: maybe you want to build with -v2024a-4ubuntu1 so both changelogs entries are in the .changes for SRU08:57
bdmurrayIf it's a Release day SRU (new name) please update the release tracking status08:58
bdmurraybdrung: Also we were previously seeing autopkgtest failures with tzdata. Are those sorted?08:58
bdrungbdmurray, the new upload should address all those failures. To verify I just uploaded for oracular before doing the same for the older releases08:59
RikMillssil2100: utkarsh2102 lubuntu also has this issue LP: #208401609:07
-ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2084016 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "lubuntu oracular live - plasma discover fails to run" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208401609:07
RikMillswhich seems to be an issue in how lubuntu are using the kvantum Qt6 theme09:08
utkarsh2102RikMills: ...and no fix? :o09:09
bdmurrayRikMills: What is plasma discover used for and how is it important?09:12
RikMillsutkarsh2102: reporter said they will be back having a look in an hr or 2 (on lubuntu-dev matrix)09:13
RikMillsbdmurray: it is the KDE software store. lubuntu uses it as their default as well09:13
RikMillshttps://apps.kde.org/en-gb/discover/09:14
RikMillspretty essential09:14
RikMillsworking fine on Kubuntu FTR09:15
Skiautkarsh2102: sil2100: I've commented with my findings on LP: #208400109:23
-ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2084001 in calamares-settings-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "fixconkeys-part1 malfunctions if more than one keyboard layout is active at once at installation time" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208400109:23
xnoxhello09:34
xnoxsil2100: let me know when there is new respin to retest x13s and i can do that; and if you want me to look into custom seeding snaps for image build purposes also let me know cause i believe there is a way to construct whichever revisions you want.09:35
Skiaoh, hello there :-)09:37
bdmurrayxnox: I believe the arm64 images were respun overnight09:38
xnoxack09:39
bdmurrayyes, there is one from 03:5009:39
xnoxwill retest to confirm mate's bug report09:39
utkarsh2102oh hello, hello xnox o/09:52
guivercbdmurray, plasma discover is the kde package manager; to me its not a [lubuntu] blocker & can be fixed post-release in my view; but I'm no dev10:02
xnoxadded comments at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/208391910:03
-ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2083919 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Oracular Oriole ARM64 ISO + install has boot console showing on serial port only" [Critical, Fix Committed]10:03
xnoxthe console=tty0 seems to be set before '---' meaning that setting is not copied into the installed system10:03
xnoxmwhudson: cpete ^^^^10:04
xnoxalso juergh ^^^^10:05
bdmurrayCan anybody see bug 2084019 which was reported to the ISO tracker?10:10
Skiabdmurray: I can't10:11
bdmurrayLets see if we can figure out who reported it.10:11
xnoxor ask launchpad ops as to what the sharing settings on it are? or ask them to force subscribe ubuntu-release to it?10:12
bdmurrayLooks like it was r41k0u10:12
bdmurrayhttps://launchpad.net/~r41k0u10:13
bdmurrayI'm respinning Ubuntu Desktop arm64.11:06
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bdmurraythe arm64 image has been respun13:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-12 (noble-proposed/universe) [12.3.0-17ubuntu1 => 12.4.0-2ubuntu1~24.04] (i386-whitelist) (sync)13:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-12-cross (noble-proposed/universe) [19ubuntu2 => 19ubuntu2.1] (i386-whitelist) (sync)13:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-12-cross-ports (noble-proposed/universe) [17ubuntu2 => 17ubuntu2.1] (i386-whitelist) (sync)13:26
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-12-cross-mipsen (noble-proposed/universe) [4+c1build1 => 4+c1build2] (no packageset) (sync)13:27
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-11 (noble-proposed/universe) [11.4.0-9ubuntu1 => 11.5.0-1ubuntu1~24.04] (core, i386-whitelist) (sync)13:29
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-11-cross (noble-proposed/universe) [21ubuntu2 => 21ubuntu3.2] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)13:30
mforbasak, hi Robie o/ if you still have SRU cycles, could you please check manila in noble/jammy-unapproved? Thanks!13:30
bdmurraymfo: I'm around this week13:32
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-11-cross-ports (noble-proposed/universe) [18ubuntu2 => 18ubuntu2.1] (i386-whitelist) (sync)13:32
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-11-cross-mipsen (noble-proposed/universe) [6+c1+nmu1ubuntu1 => 6+c1+nmu1ubuntu1.1] (no packageset) (sync)13:33
mfobdmurray, hey Brian o/ Thank you. Just FYI, anything different this week? IIRC your vanguard shift is on Tuesdays :)13:34
mfos/FYI/FMY/13:34
bdmurraymfo: I'm at the release sprint this week so I have some more time available.13:36
mfobdmurray, ah, ok, cool13:36
bdmurrayIts a one off thing.13:36
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: netplan.io (jammy-proposed/main) [0.107.1-3ubuntu0.22.04.1 => 0.107.1-3ubuntu0.22.04.2] (core)15:00
slyondanilogondolfo: ^15:00
danilogondolfoslyon, ack, thanks15:01
arraybolt3ubuntu-release: btw I'm around on IRC now15:09
arraybolt3The exact details of the bug are it's not a regression.15:10
Skiaarraybolt3: could you please review the comment I added on your bug, and assess whether or not it's the same issue that you were experiencing?15:10
arraybolt3It's something broken in Noble and still broken in Oracular.15:10
arraybolt3sure15:10
arraybolt3Skia: That's a related bug, but not one that this upload fixes.15:11
arraybolt3Fixing that bug requires being aware of which layout in multiple layouts is active.15:11
Skiayes, okay15:12
arraybolt3And that's not something that can be done without custom C code, which is far too invasive.15:12
arraybolt3But imagine that the default layout setup was ma,us there15:12
arraybolt3in that instance you'd install normally without switching keyboard layout, and encryption would not work.15:12
arraybolt3Because the Cala code I wrote doesn't know how to handle ma,us or us,ma, it just errors out and does nothing.15:12
arraybolt3So the fix is to just add a "cut" command that grabs the first keyboard layout.15:12
arraybolt3That prevents that scenario.15:13
arraybolt3The goal is to make it so that at least if the user uses all of the defaults, it doesn't break badly. If they do things like switching keyboard layouts around, and it breaks, that's unfortunate but not something that can be fixed. But at least using the installer "normally" shouldn't break.15:14
arraybolt3and yes this is horribly late, I only learned about this bug very recently because it broke a different distro I work on at my dayjob.15:14
arraybolt3Which is why I'm volunteering to suffer the testing workload because this is going to be really disruptive to people and it's ultiamtely my fault.15:15
Skiaand do Unity and Kubuntu agree with this? I guess this is the main concern of the release team, because all of them would need a respin15:16
arraybolt3I have pinged Kubuntu, have not pinged Unity.15:16
bdmurrayarraybolt3: Could you add these additional details to the bug report so they are on the "permanent record" rather than in some IRC logs?15:17
arraybolt3Sure, as soon as I have breathing roolm15:17
arraybolt3*room15:18
arraybolt3(trying to start a kernel build right this second)15:18
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: squid (noble-proposed/main) [6.6-1ubuntu5.1 => 6.10-0ubuntu0.24.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)15:24
bdmurrayrs20096: Have you seen bug 2084001 and would you want to respin for it?15:24
-ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Bug 2084001 in calamares-settings-ubuntu (Ubuntu Oracular) "fixconkeys-part1 malfunctions if more than one keyboard layout is active at once at installation time" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208400115:24
bdmurrayFor the record the release team's advice would be not to respin for this given that it is not a regression and taking into consideration where we are in the release cycle.15:26
bdmurrayAdditionally, given where are at in the release process (T-1 Day) bugs being fixed should be of SRU quality. Actually, bugs should be of SRU quality a couple of days before today.15:28
arraybolt3Not challenging that, but I believe there was also an exception for installer code that couldn't be changed after release? I suppose it's because this doesn't qualify as release-critical.15:28
arraybolt3(it isn't really, it's just potentially severely annoying for some users)15:29
bdmurrayIf a release note were to be written for this what would the note be? i.e. think about how people could work around it - install with one keyboard layout and then change it?15:29
arraybolt3yeah, that would work15:30
arraybolt3To be clear, when I first started fixing this bug I had originally thought it caused an installer crash. It doesn't, but it did in a different distro that used a slightly different setup.15:30
arraybolt3That's why I was initially "we have to fix this NOW aaa!" But then in testing I saw it didn't cause a crash.15:30
arraybolt3At that point I thought it was still work respinning, but going through the rationale I'm doubting that at this point.15:31
arraybolt3s/work/worth/15:31
arraybolt3so tl;dr: if the RT believes this isn't worth a respin, then that's fine by me. If flavor leads accept it and it results in a respin, I'll soak as much of the damage from that as possible.15:31
arraybolt3really the more I think about it the more I feel like this is probably a bad idea. bdmurray I know I uploaded the fix, but if I -1 a respin at this time is that weird?15:35
RikMillsIf this can be in release notes for people doing non default options install, then I would say do that and do not re-spin15:35
RikMills^^ sgmoore ?15:35
arraybolt3since having this conversation is making me *really* think this isn't critical like I thought it was last night.15:35
bdmurrayarraybolt3: It is not weird at all to have second thoughts and want to -1 it. Taking a step back and reconsidering things is always important.15:36
arraybolt3then I think that's best for Lubuntu at least. If both sgmoore and rs20096 veto it, then I'll go along with a respin, but assuming they don't (and I find it very likely they won't), I'm -1 on a respin.15:38
rbasaktjaalton: I reviewed bug 2083657 but note that most of my review isn't really SRU-specific and more general review points. I'm not even that confident with the specifics. Do we need a reviewer more familiar with this area?15:39
-ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Bug 2083657 in OEM Priority Project "Remove oem-flavour.cfg for the OEM kernel retirement" [Critical, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208365715:39
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-drivers-common [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:0.9.6.2~0.22.04.8]15:40
tjaaltonrbasak: I don't know who that might be, but I'll answer to the points that I can15:43
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted manila [source] (noble-proposed) [1:18.0.1-0ubuntu2.1]15:49
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-12 [sync] (noble-proposed) [12.4.0-2ubuntu1~24.04]16:03
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted manila [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:14.1.1-0ubuntu1.1]16:06
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: llvm-toolchain-18 (noble-proposed/main) [1:18.1.3-1ubuntu1 => 1:18.1.8-9ubuntu1~24.04] (i386-whitelist) (sync)16:25
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gdb [sync] (noble-proposed) [15.1-1ubuntu1~24.04]16:28
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted llvm-toolchain-18 [sync] (noble-proposed) [1:18.1.8-9ubuntu1~24.04]16:44
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EickmeyerUbuntu Studio is ready17:58
EickmeyerAnd now all of Edubuntu is ready.18:24
utkarsh58nice18:26
utkarsh58that's super18:26
utkarsh58Eickmeyer: marked so?18:27
EickmeyerYes.18:27
utkarsh58lovely!!!18:27
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RikMillsas currently we are not respinning kubuntu/lubuntu or unity, I will mark Kubuntu as ready18:27
utkarsh2102super!18:27
EickmeyerNow I have an announcement to write for Studio. amypenguin will write for Edubuntu tonight, and I'll update the discord link.18:27
utkarsh2102\o/18:28
RikMillsdone18:28
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arraybolt3FYI for those who are wondering, rs20096 responded to the situation with the keyboard layout bug in Calamares-based flavors and also -1'd the respin, so we are officially in "no respin territory" for that bug.19:40
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: paramiko (noble-proposed/main) [2.12.0-2ubuntu4 => 2.12.0-2ubuntu4.1] (ubuntu-desktop)20:02
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: paramiko (jammy-proposed/main) [2.9.3-0ubuntu1.2 => 2.9.3-0ubuntu1.3] (ubuntu-desktop)20:24

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