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enigma9o7Settings.00:09
acute_Is Matrix a chat client for IRC?01:09
BrandonTaylorI can't boot to the Ubuntu 24.10 live environment. After it goes through the Plymouth screen -- the one with the Ubuntu logo and a small spinning wheel -- it goes to a black screen and just hangs there forever. I worry that my computer may be simply too old...01:20
enigma9o7you've tried safe startup mode or whatever it's called from the boot menu?01:21
BrandonTaylorYep, "Safe Graphics". No change.01:21
enigma9o7acute_ No.  Matrix is a completely seperate protocol than irc, had has a variety of clients, element being the most popular, nheko being one in ubuntu repos.01:21
enigma9o7If I were in your position, I'd test 24.04LTS and Xubuntu to see if either of those work OOTB.  If they do, consider using them, or at least knowing how those fare might help you with troubleshooting.01:24
enigma9o7Just being old, as long as 64-bit, shouldn't prevent Ubuntu live from booting tho.01:24
BrandonTaylorOkay, well, I've tried 24.04LTS. The live environment works, but the darn installer crashes at random intervals.01:25
enigma9o7Hmmm.  Random intervals doesn't help much.  Is it always after you start the file copy, after you did all the initial config stuff, or do you not even get thru that always?01:26
BrandonTaylorI don't always get through it.01:26
enigma9o7It's possible it's an actual hardware problem then, perhaps bad memory?   But without any idea why it's crashing, that's just a guess.01:27
acute_<enigma9o7> Doesn't Matrix only use HTML?01:28
enigma9o7actute, no idea, I don't think it uses any html tho.01:28
enigma9o7its it's own protocol.01:28
BrandonTaylorI don't see how the memory could have failed... unless...01:29
enigma9o7You could read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)01:29
enigma9o7Well one easy way, assuming you have multiple memory modules, to trial and error it is remove a memory module, see if it still crashes, if it does, swap em.01:29
Widdershinshello; i've a freshly upgraded 24.04.1 installation, and i'm seeing that at startup DNS resolution is no longer available in systemd rules that wait for nss-lookup.target and network-online.target01:32
Widdershinsright now this is causing half the services on my system to permanently fail to come up without manual intervention01:33
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sam_wongHi, I am running Ubuntu 24.04. My cdrom icon above the dash will blacken if I replace the DVD(MP4) with a CD(MP3). Is this a normal situation or an incorrect setting?03:09
GudduI have a app names filemail desktop which is not able to access the /media folder. In dmesg --follow i see apparmos="DENIED" message for the app. This is despite the fact that I have apparmor service stopped and disabled. Please guide as to how i can solve this issue.03:23
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minthi05:00
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MrBurrito605is there anyone here?05:01
bobdobbsI'm running mariadb on ubuntu 22.04. Up until a few days ago, I was able to connect to the mariadb server from the commandline as a nonroot user. At the moment this is no longer possible. Instead, I get the message " Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock"05:05
bobdobbsIf I switch to root, then this stops happening05:05
bobdobbsBut I want to do some mysql operations as a nonroot user05:05
bobdobbsI'm not sure what has happened here. But it's as if my system knows which socket to use if I'm root. But if I'm not root then mysql doesn't know which socket it uses05:07
matsamanbobdobbs: wrong perms for that file or directory maybe05:20
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bobdobbsmatsaman: I'm not sure that it's a permissions issue. That file doesn't exist.06:34
matsamanbobdobbs: and maybe for root it doesn't matter that it doesn't exist, because permissions =)06:53
geirhabobdobbs: does root have TMPDIR set to a different dir, or any MYSQL variables set? (assuming bash: declare -p TMPDIR "${!MYSQL_@}")06:54
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Guest86How can denied access to sudo bash command to ubuntu? It open bash with root privilidgeds?09:08
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babuulahi! i suppose there isn't a minimal installation of ubuntu 24.10? dl-dvdr's are hard to come by over here!09:54
MarcoMWhy don't use torrent to download the big iso (this avoids data loss when connections is broken) and then do the minimal installation /remove packages after install?10:00
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babuulaMarcoM: i want to use it as a live-cd!10:07
MarcoMFor Xubuntu, mini iso exists, can you use that?10:08
babuulaMarcoM: i'm planning to burn lxqt ubuntu to dvd, but i'd also like to have gnome ubuntu 24.10 on dvd!10:23
Guest86Is there tool that scan secure_path folders so that there is no injected bin files? secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/snap/bin"10:46
lotuspsychjeGuest86: lynis is a pretty nifty scanner to scan your whole system for weird behavior10:48
lotuspsychje!info lynis | Guest8610:48
ubottuGuest86: lynis (3.0.9-1, noble): security auditing tool for Unix based systems. In component universe, is optional. Built by lynis. Size 221 kB / 1,617 kB10:48
tomreynGuest86: you need to be monmitoring a clean system to detect such. you're looking for "file integrity monitoring" or "host (/network) intrusion detection (/prevention)" software.10:58
Guest86I create scrp that detect changes on secure_path file folder to see changes, but malmaware is running half of side on memory space. I have been isolated it on image disk.11:00
Guest86Using normal dpkg --verity to chek packets, and bash script to handlle those secure_path folders.11:02
lotuspsychjeGuest86: can you elaborate a bit more, why you suspect you got malware inside your system?11:03
Guest86Isolated that on image file, running that image and doing diff comperare to "clean" image on virtualbox.11:03
Guest86Because of memory space changes what have been detected, when running python and bash scripts. It can been changes string based variable content, dosent sure does it that on conda enviroment.11:04
anankethat's a fairly wild conclusion11:06
Guest86Malmawae can change string based variable content and i think it does that before disk write procedure. Alredy crated prototype c code that can investeget memory address area on spesific locations, but it is not ready yet.11:06
Guest86But thanks for answers!11:07
BluesKajHi all11:20
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sinanhi11:45
sylvain31hello, I'm installing an ubuntu server 24.04.1, as I need custom partitioning I'm looking at the installer, but it seems to have lost advanced partitioning tools now. What is replacing it?12:32
mgedminthe root shell on tty2?12:36
ravagehttps://www.server-world.info/en/Ubuntu_24.04/install/img/7.png12:36
sylvain31ravage, yes I found that more detailed here,  https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/configuring-storage-in-the-server-installer/16691 which explain there's no partition editor anymore.12:43
sylvain31mgedmin, yes I'm here, but no more toolset? just fdisk and friends?12:44
ravageInteresting12:44
ravageAs in sad12:44
mgedminI sooo miss cfdisk ;-(12:45
mgedminparted is, I think, a little bit friendlier than fdisk12:45
sylvain31mgedmin, cfdisk is here.12:45
mgedminisn't it unmaintained/deprecated, without support for gpt etc?  I wasn't paying attention12:46
mgedminhttps://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=cfdisk says no such package12:46
sylvain31I was just curious what should come next for managing partitions in 2024, not back in time in 1990 ;-) ;-P12:47
sylvain31mgedmin, on the live booted iso I just downloaded it's here. 😉12:48
mgedmincool!  can you do a dpkg -S $(which cfdisk)?12:48
mgedminwait, _I_ can do that!  it's from the fdisk package!12:49
mgedminand it supports GPT nowadays!12:49
mgedminsomebody resurrected it while I wasn't looking!  what a fabulous day!12:51
sylvain31mgedmin, happy to gift that for you 🎁12:55
sylvain31by the way, following entire disk auto partition with VLM it seems to propose 100G allocated for / and all the remaining as freespace. Which may could do the trick. 🤔12:57
sylvain31I'm trying the proposed "Guided storage configuration" to see how it behaves.13:06
sylvain31Can I get the autoinstall script with the parameter I selected? is the yaml saved somewhere?13:06
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rexariehello13:12
rexariehey13:13
sylvain31fresh install ubuntu 24.04.1 "Guided storage configuration" result https://paste.debian.net/133235813:18
GrandPa-GI asked yesterday about cloning via an image. Is it possible to make an image while running via ssh?14:01
leftyfbit's not recommended14:02
leftyfbyou'll likely run into some issues trying to image a running system14:02
GrandPa-Git doesn't make sense to me, but I see some google answers trying to say it can be done.14:02
leftyfb"can be done" doesn't mean it's recommended or without issues14:02
rocahello14:26
toddcexit14:32
henk_ik heb een orange pi 5 plus 16gb ram en daarvoor een 256gb emmc kaart besteld, kan ik deze direct op de orange pi flachen?15:52
lotuspsychje!nl | henk_15:52
ubottuhenk_: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl15:52
henk_thanks15:52
yes-ubuntuHello! I have a makefile question if you would allow me: I am writing my makefile. And, after running some commands from within a rule I created, at one point, I would need to check if some files have been created and based on that, I need to do other stuff. Is there any way I could do that? and evaluate that vadiable with ifeq16:00
yes-ubuntu("$(my_makefile_variable_with_shell_output)","my_expected_string_value") ... else ... endif ?16:00
morpheuzhi @all16:20
morpheuzI hope anyone can help me. In plasma, when i switch from one wallpaper to the other, the two pictures switch in a fading effect. Where can i change the time interval of the fading effect? I want to make the fading effect longer.16:20
morpheuzAt first i thought it was the SlideInterval in /usr/share/plasma/wallpapers/org.kde.image/contents/config/main.xml but that didn't change anything.16:20
yuziHi, I am running out of space for my /home partition, I don't want to delete /home. It is filling due to Virtual box .vdi file, can I set the Virtual box path somewhere in the /root which has enough free space16:41
yuzialso / has my dir, idk which one is safe to do so16:44
sixwheeledbeastVM's don't have to be in /home. More of a question for #vbox tho.16:45
yuziVM is installed in root but it's path for .vdi files is set default in home16:46
tomreynyuzi: you can certainly change this default16:56
rfmyuzi  there's even a option in the vbox main gui to move a vm16:57
tomreynmorpheuz: you might have more luck with plasma questions in #kubuntu (but point it out / ask elsewhere if you're running something else).16:57
yuzitomreyn, yes but the current user might not have write permission in / directories16:59
yuzican I chmod and give write permission, is it safe?17:00
tomreynmorpheuz: #gnu may be a better place to ask "make" related questions17:00
mgedminyou can mkdir /stuff/extra-space-for-your-userid, chown it, and symlink ~/extra-space -> /stuff/extra-space-for-your-userid17:00
mgedminit's what I used to do a lot before I finally came to my senses and stopped dividing my hard drives into multiple partitions17:01
leftyfbmgedmin: I would recommend bind mounts over symlinks17:02
mgedminbind mounts have pluses and minuses17:02
tomreynGrandPa-G: does your host not provide an imaging option on their web panel?17:02
rfmin this case don't need either, vbox doesn't care17:02
yuzirfm, so vbox can write in / ?17:03
mgedminI don't know how well snap's sandbox handles symlinks in ~/ that point outside, there might be complications there17:03
mgedminI know I couldn't use a snapp'ed ripgrep on one box because /home/mgedmin was a symlink to /home-ssd/mgedmin and the sandbox setup got all confused by it17:03
mgedminyuzi: location doesn't matter; file permissions (and ownership) matters17:04
mgedminby default you won't have many places outside ~ where you can write stuff (only /tmp, /var/tmp, and /run/user/$UID come to mind)17:04
mgedminbut it is fine to sudo mkdir /data && sudo chown $USER:$USER /data17:04
mgedminjust avoid names that are already taken like /lib17:05
yuziHmm.. Got it, I created dir in /usr and did chown17:18
PyIRCUsertest17:19
yuzimgedmin, but is changing group permission to $user neccessary?17:19
yuziI only changed user permission not the group17:20
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mgedminyuzi: it's not necessary; I'd do it for consistency17:26
yuziHmm... It working, I thought my /home 50Gb will be enough but windows has bs updates that kept grwing the .vdi file17:28
yuzimgedmin, Thanks for help!17:28
yuziPyIRCUser, tested, it's working fine17:30
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yuziI am using VM to run windows to actually do WFH, they have some software that only support windows and keep continuesly tracking your laptop, I think they might not know about VMs .. lol17:33
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GrandPa-Gtomreyn, what web panel? This is just a plain old OS box.17:56
tomreynGrandPa-G: oh i must have mixed up, thought you had written it was a VPS/VM17:57
tomreynGrandPa-G: if you had lvm, btrfs or zfs, you could create a snapshot (and an image from that). but it'd still be a running system, in possibly an inconsistent state. a proper backup (and recipes, possibly automated) is lkely if not always better for restoring a system.18:01
georgeHi!18:17
morpheuztomreyn: thank you :) I'm trying my luck over there.18:25
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valkanioshi19:06
valkaniosi want some help19:06
bprompt!ask | valkanios19:07
ubottuvalkanios: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:07
valkaniosok tnx. i have a problem with a format. after this it blocks my new installs19:08
bpromptvalkanios: what do you mean by all that?19:13
Guest32pf19:29
Guest32it19:33
eelstreborhow can the package manager alert me to available updates but can't download and install them. doesn't make sense19:35
gordonjcpeelstrebor: it can19:35
gordonjcpeelstrebor: can you explain a bit more about the problem you're having?19:35
gordonjcpnope, apparently they can't19:45
UndergroundMETALHello19:56
cbreakfunny. I tried to log in with a second instance of myself by locking screen, then selecting "switch user", but ended up logging back into my old session20:32
alex___hi there20:49
bprompthello20:50
alex___it's really awkward to chat here from ubuntu terminal without any gui, feelings from 90s20:52
bpromptalex___: then use something like Hexchat20:52
enigma9o7using irssi?20:53
sixwheeledbeastthere are irc clients that aren't terminal20:53
enigma9o7It is based on something from the 90s, irc2 I believe (maybe bitchx in the middle).20:53
enigma9o7but even hexchat looks like something out of the 90s, even if it is GUI20:53
enigma9o7Polari is a litle more modern looking, although it doesn't have all the features hexchat/irssi have... and in my experience crashes randomly.20:54
alex___i was intentially decided to use this, just to delve into this stuff :)20:54
bpromptalex___: you're partying like it's 199920:57
alex___even don't know how it was in 1999, im 2003 ;)20:59
enigma9o7I must correct myself, irc2 was 80s.21:15
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darkdrgn2klinux-headers-6.8.0-48-generic/Makefile:1021: scripts/Makefile.ubsan: No such file or directory21:29
darkdrgn2k <- what package am i missing to be able to compile nvidia drivers rfom source?21:29
enigma9o7you can tell apt to install build depends21:45
enigma9o7you could also look in the control file yourself21:46
Jeremy31Might need linux-headers and linux-headers-generic installed21:52
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