| eelstrebor | how can the package manager alert me to available updates but can't download and install them. doesn't make sense | 00:02 |
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| enigma9o7 | How does that not make sense? | 00:02 |
| enigma9o7 | apt update fetches the list of avaliable packages, and compares with what you have, lets you know what's eligible for upgrade | 00:02 |
| enigma9o7 | But you could easily have broken things so not everything is installable. | 00:03 |
| enigma9o7 | There's also "phased updates" now too. | 00:03 |
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| Like_a_Ghost | ( º_º) | 00:48 |
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| sarnold | enigma9o7: it does seem silly for the updater to alert someone if all the updates are phased and wouldn't be installed anyway | 01:42 |
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| eelstrebor | enigma9o7, how can it connect to the repositories to see what needs to be updated and yet apt can't download and install those packages? if it can connect to get a list of upgradable packages then it should be able to upgrade those packages. this isn't an issue with phasing | 03:32 |
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| Guest53 | how can i fix NO_PUBKEY C324E53A624F7DB3 in apt ? | 07:24 |
| Guest53 | it isfor the speedify repo | 07:25 |
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| nobody3132 | #whoami | 08:03 |
| nobody3132 | hi guys | 08:03 |
| nobody3132 | I have a question | 08:03 |
| nobody3132 | how to add security repository | 08:04 |
| serciv | hello | 08:24 |
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| === Edo is now known as EdoCiv | ||
| lotuspsychje | mgedmin: another user confirmed your bug, seems like going the good way | 08:47 |
| lotuspsychje | EdoCiv: welcome | 08:48 |
| younder | https://omakub.org/ | 08:48 |
| younder | Omakub is an Omakase Developer Setup for Ubuntu 24.04 by DHH | 08:49 |
| lotuspsychje | !discuss | younder | 08:51 |
| ubottu | younder: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 08:51 |
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| itai | hi, how to delete all unused, phased-out snap packages? | 10:24 |
| itai | will snap do the clea up on its own? | 10:25 |
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| gordonjcp | mmm-hm | 10:47 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:48 |
| spinningCat | who is this nut cracker? | 12:26 |
| lotuspsychje | can we help you spinningCat | 12:30 |
| spinningCat | i just saw that fllod anyway | 12:32 |
| spinningCat | lotuspsychje, i am wondering is there a command in ubuntu for converting pdf to docx | 12:33 |
| ravage | libreoffice in headless mode | 12:34 |
| ravage | libreoffice --headless --convert-to docx input.pdf | 12:34 |
| kpanic | spinningCat: pandoc should do it I think | 12:35 |
| spinningCat | let me see | 12:36 |
| Piraty | bisecting pdf works well in inkscape too | 13:01 |
| Piraty | depending on what you need from it | 13:01 |
| mgedmin | pdftotext exists in the poppler-utils; just how useful it is depends on the PDF in question | 13:16 |
| mgedmin | and, of course, it gives you plain text with no formatting rather than a docx | 13:17 |
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| d3-2024 | morning all | 14:01 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome d3-2024 | 14:03 |
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| === Juesto is now known as Juest | ||
| BrandonTaylor | I can't reach the live environment on Ubuntu 24.10 when I boot from a USB, even on "safe graphics" mode. I've run tests on my RAM and have them come back good. | 15:11 |
| BrandonTaylor | It just seems to hang on a black screen after the Plymouth screen (the one with the Ubuntu logo) disappears. | 15:15 |
| mgedmin | how long have you waited? how much RAM does your machine have? | 15:16 |
| BrandonTaylor | 16 GB. | 15:17 |
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| mari-estel | hm maybe there is a way to increase log detail? | 15:17 |
| BrandonTaylor | I'm not sure how much good it would do since the logs erase themselves when I reboot the system using Alt-SysRq-B. | 15:18 |
| mari-estel | yeah i mean, at least you might have a line to read before it hangs | 15:19 |
| mgedmin | how long have you waited? | 15:19 |
| mgedmin | does pressing Esc do anything (like start showing systemd startup messages)? | 15:19 |
| BrandonTaylor | Several minutes. Surely it shouldn't take that lonv, right? | 15:19 |
| mgedmin | should't | 15:19 |
| mgedmin | I mean, it takes longer than one would expect, especially when you're low on memory, but 16 gb is plenty | 15:20 |
| BrandonTaylor | No, Esc doesn't do anything, and nor does Ctrl-Alt-Fx (1-6) | 15:20 |
| mgedmin | have you verified the checksum of the written image? | 15:20 |
| mgedmin | although I think recent versions are supposed to do that automatically | 15:21 |
| mari-estel | i have some vague memories about the ubuntu bootstrap offering to show more details | 15:21 |
| mgedmin | but meybe it fails to boot to that point | 15:21 |
| BrandonTaylor | What's the correct checksum supposed to be? | 15:23 |
| mgedmin | there's a SHA256SUMS file next to the .iso image itself on the site where you downloaded it | 15:23 |
| mgedmin | and a SHA256SUMS.gpg with a cryptographic signature to certify that the SHA256SUMS are for the official image | 15:24 |
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| BrandonTaylor | The checksum is correct. | 15:28 |
| BrandonTaylor | It boots correctly on a VirtualBox machine as well as VMware, so I don't know what the problem is with my bare metal machine. | 15:30 |
| mgedmin | some hardware incompatibility? | 15:38 |
| tomreyn | !bootlog | BrandonTaylor | 15:39 |
| ubottu | BrandonTaylor: To show errors during boot and shutdown, edit the kernel command line: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters and replace "quiet splash" by "debug systemd.log_level=info". Disable "Full screen logo" and "Fastboot" options in your BIOS setup, or hit 'Esc' when the logo shows on power up. | 15:39 |
| tomreyn | You can also just try removing "quiet" and "splash" (hitting, on the grub menu, ctrl-e, then editing the "Linux" line, then ctrl-x) | 15:41 |
| BrandonTaylor | All right, I'll give it a shot soon. | 15:42 |
| tomreyn | about magic sysrq, don't just use 'b', also use 's' (sync write cache to disk) and 'u' (emergency unmount (cleanly) all file systems) | 15:42 |
| tomreyn | !sysrq | 15:42 |
| ubottu | In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 15:42 |
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| woosht | Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring | 16:52 |
| woosht | alt-sysreq-REISUB | 16:52 |
| mgedmin | by default ubuntu's /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf allows only alt-sysrq-sub | 16:55 |
| woosht | I guess since 16.04? I didn't know been using it since Dapper | 16:59 |
| tomreyn | roughly around then, it's been a while | 17:04 |
| daw | hi | 17:29 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome daw | 17:35 |
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| vortexx | I'm seeing the 6.8.0-47 kernel has been released for 24.04, did we skip -46 ? | 18:10 |
| enigma9o7 | Maybe check the changelog with apt... | 18:11 |
| enigma9o7 | just a guess tho, never tried it on kernel before | 18:12 |
| vortexx | it's really not very important | 18:14 |
| vortexx | I don't always reboot for a new kernel install | 18:14 |
| vortexx | (unless something major has been fixed of course) | 18:14 |
| enigma9o7 | only updated to kernel should be security fixes and serious bugs.... | 18:15 |
| mariza | hola que tal | 18:40 |
| wodiouscafe | I haven't been able to get xrdp working with 24.10, and I've tried it on a number of different systems that were running on 24.04 (and one that was 23.10), that previously had no issues. | 18:55 |
| wodiouscafe | I'm assuming it's because of the switch from x to wayland, but I wanted to ask if this is a known issue, or has anyone else encountered this? | 18:55 |
| karenw | There's a new item in my (kubuntu) dock called "Wayland to X11 Bridge" which seems to be related. (I don't use xrdp and have explicitly switched to wayland for a few K/Ubuntu versions so I can't help much) | 18:57 |
| tomreyn | wodiouscafe: yes, i think xrdp is called like that because it's for X11/Xorg. if you're using gnome-shell/mutter on wayland you can just use settings -> sharing and set up an rdp server there | 18:59 |
| wodiouscafe | tomreyn: Yeah, it looks like Wayland support is an ongoing thing (since 2017, but active) https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp/issues/2637 | 19:01 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 2637 in neutrinolabs/xrdp "So.. Lets talk about Wayland (long term feature request and discussion)" [Open] | 19:01 | |
| wodiouscafe | tomreyn: The issue is I want to use KDE. I have been using the gnome-shell rdp workaround, but it's less performant than xrdp. | 19:01 |
| wodiouscafe | (And I find it frequently hangs) | 19:02 |
| tomreyn | hmm, i don't know what's the current recommenddation for kde | 19:03 |
| karenw | Might get better replies in #kubuntu if using kde? | 19:03 |
| puff | Good afternoon. | 20:42 |
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| puff | Looking for advice on something similar to wmctl or xdotool. | 20:43 |
| puff | I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. | 20:43 |
| puff | Because apparently wmcontrol doesn't work on wayland: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/nu8bij/issue_with_wmctrl_and_firefox_after_upgrading_to/ | 20:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | there are wayland xdotool replacements IIRC. ydotool being one. | 20:55 |
| puff | sixwheeledbeast: ah, thanks. | 21:01 |
| BrandonTaylor | Okay, I'm now in the live environment by way of safe graphics mode, and I replaced `quiet splash` by `debug systemd.loglevel=info`. When I attempt to install Ubuntu, however, the installer errors out! | 21:16 |
| BrandonTaylor | Any further attempts to relaunch the installer result in the installer just hanging. | 21:16 |
| darkdrgn2k | what package contains the scripts/Makefile.ubsan file? | 21:19 |
| darkdrgn2k | (for compiling headers/modules) | 21:19 |
| BrandonTaylor | Okay, I think I'm able to work around it by `snap remove --purge ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap` and `snap install ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap --classic`. | 21:21 |
| MarkB2 | Uh oh... I've a problem. But not sure if it belongs here or not.. Here goes. | 21:24 |
| MarkB2 | I've an older system that dual-boots between Linux and Win10. The systems are on two different drives. | 21:25 |
| MarkB2 | System failed to boot into W10 last night with a 0xc00000225 error. [more] | 21:25 |
| MarkB2 | Booted it into Linux and ran the memory checker. | 21:26 |
| MarkB2 | That failed at 58%. The memory checker just crashed. It also crashes when in "failsafe" mode. | 21:26 |
| MarkB2 | I pull two 2GB sticks. And the memory checker succeeds. | 21:27 |
| MarkB2 | Bad memory? I start swapping sticks. If all four sticks are in then the memory checker crashes. If any two sticks are remove, the checker succeeds. | 21:27 |
| srg | Sounds like a bad motherboard. | 21:28 |
| MarkB2 | Does not matter which sticks are in which sockets. If two are in then good. If 4 are in then bad. | 21:28 |
| MarkB2 | And to top it off, No matter what I do, Win10 drops into its Recovery software with that 225 error. | 21:29 |
| MarkB2 | srg: a bad motherboard. <groan> | 21:29 |
| pragmaticenigma | MarkB2: you've already ruled out bad ram by swapping the modules around, and noting a limit of 2 results in a succesfully boot. that leaves the motherboard as having a fault. | 21:30 |
| MarkB2 | What blows my mind is that Ubuntu 20.0.4 boots up nicely. It's what Hexchat is running on. | 21:30 |
| MarkB2 | I was ..hoping.. someone here could have a different take on the problem. | 21:30 |
| BrandonTaylor | I appear to have installed Ubuntu 24.10 correctly, albeit in a roundabout fashion. I'll reboot and see what happens. | 21:30 |
| MarkB2 | pragmaticenigma: It won't boot Win10 despite if there is 1, 2, or 4 sticks in there. | 21:31 |
| MarkB2 | Is there anything in the Ubuntu boot process I can look at? I'm not even sure what I would look at... at least the output of dmesg. | 21:32 |
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| MarkB2 | I'm not sure how to interpret dmesg's output in the face of a failure like this. | 21:33 |
| pragmaticenigma | MarkB2: Windows will continue to drop to a recovery mode until it successfully completes what it needs done there. there's nothing from the ubuntu side that will help further diagnose the problem. you completed the exact same taks that someone at a computer repair shop would happily charge you lots of money to do, to tell you, motherboard is no good. | 21:34 |
| MarkB2 | Also... burnt a Win10 repair CD last summer. I know its good. But... it also drops into the 225 error. | 21:35 |
| MarkB2 | pragmaticenigma: Yes, I think I've covered the bases... but running out and purchasing a 'puter isn't what I had in mind. I have a backup, a Lenovo i3-class laptop, that has temporarily picked up the slack. | 21:36 |
| MarkB2 | The Win10 HD seems to be intact. Can connect it to the laptop. | 21:37 |
| pragmaticenigma | MarkB2: I'm sorry, but I do not understand what more you are expecting. You have a hardware problem, it cannot be solved with software. You're fortunate that you can at least continue to access your data (and hopefully have made a backup of that data.) | 21:40 |
| MarkB2 | A restore disk was created last Summer. It just kind of gets me that Linux boots and runs, and Win10 falls flat on its face. Well, maybe it doesn't get me that back (Linux is superior) but that Win10 can't point a finger somewhere... | 21:42 |
| brandon-taylor | I know what's the matter... I think my darn video card is too old. I just can't freaking believe it... I mean, I only just upgraded the thing a couple of years ago! | 21:43 |
| pragmaticenigma | MarkB2: I don't know windows, and cannot offer insight on that part of your system. Yes, there are additional components that Windows validates and checks on boot that probably aren't required or leverages for a Linux environment. What has nerfed your RAM controller, may have also broke other components such as TPM chips, Disk Drive interface controllers, etc. An integral thing such as RAM controller being broken is an automatic stop | 21:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | using that motherboard, type thing in my book. | 21:48 |
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| rock8000 | you must line up the windows to pull out the cross! | 22:23 |
| MarkB2 | pragmaticenigma: Agreed. In the bad old days all the electronics was discrete and socketed. Now? No one fixes motherboards; there's just no way to do it (except maybe for Louis Rossman). | 22:26 |
| MarkB2 | Dang. This was a good system. One good thing was the power draw: about 200 watts with everything turned on. | 22:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | MarkB2: Most of the discrete logic you are thinking of, is now on the CPU. Your analogy is akin to comparing an Internal Combustion Engine to an Electric Car, it doesn't make sense | 22:29 |
| MarkB2 | Lots of sockets. And it has TWO PCI sockets. PCIe 16, two PCIe small. | 22:30 |
| MarkB2 | Where am I going to find a motherboard with a couple of PCI sockets...? | 22:30 |
| pragmaticenigma | MarkB2: Look at motherboards designed for industrial and commerical applications. they're out there | 22:32 |
| MarkB2 | True. <sigh> It's a full-sized case. Holds up to 6 SATA HDs, three DVD drives.. maybe I can find a nice big motherboard and just replace that. | 22:34 |
| sarnold | like, actual pci? the thing that predated pcie? | 22:34 |
| MarkB2 | sarnold: Yes. The nice thing about that is I have a PCI-to-GPIB interface that just plugs in. | 22:34 |
| sarnold | pci sockets, not slots? i'm all kinds of confused | 22:35 |
| sarnold | here's hoping pragmaticenigma is right, otherwise trawling ebay for 20 year old equipment :/ | 22:35 |
| srg | Who uses DVDs in 2024? :-P | 22:36 |
| MarkB2 | <snicker> that one GPIB board was a discard from a former employer. It's worth about $600. | 22:36 |
| MarkB2 | srg: Not many. Still, I've a stack of blanks and that same employer discarded a DVD replication system. | 22:37 |
| MarkB2 | Ten DVD drives in that. Oh! And my local library loans out movies. | 22:37 |
| pragmaticenigma | Let's keep on topic please | 22:37 |
| sarnold | oo gpib, i don't think i've seen one of those before | 22:38 |
| pragmaticenigma | MarkB2: There are adapters out there too for PCIe to PCI: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card/dp/B0024CV3SA | 22:40 |
| brandon-taylor | Correct me if I'm mistaken, but is VESA limited to 1024x768 resolution @ 60 Hz? | 22:41 |
| MarkB2 | I have to give StarTech some credit... and probably a chunk of my money, too. :-) | 22:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | brandon-taylor: it may be more helpful to provide the make and model of your graphics card | 22:45 |
| brandon-taylor | It's an AMD Radeon R9 200 series. | 22:45 |
| brandon-taylor | I suspect that series has become too old for Ubuntu since all I get is a blank screen when I try to boot it. | 22:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | brandon-taylor: it's more likely trying to use the newer amdgpu kernel drivers instead of the older radeon drivers | 22:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | but how to switch to those, I'm not familiar with. boot options are not something i'm very familiar with | 22:49 |
| tomreyn | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/AMDGPU#Enable_Southern_Islands_(SI)_and_Sea_Islands_(CIK)_support | 22:49 |
| tomreyn | though not all R9 200 series models are southern or sea islands | 22:50 |
| tomreyn | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_200_series | 22:51 |
| brandon-taylor | Hmm. You reckon, if I were to disable the amdgpu kernel driver, it might work properly? | 22:51 |
| tomreyn | personally, i assume that these are driven by radeon by default, but you may want to use these kernel cmdline parameters to make amdgpu drive them instead | 22:53 |
| tomreyn | your kernel log (dmesg) should tell what was attempted and failed | 22:53 |
| tomreyn | and 'yes' to your vesa question | 22:54 |
| brandon-taylor | https://pastebin.com/1VS0D9MH | 22:55 |
| tomreyn | i think this output implies "Kernel driver in use: -/-" (i.e. no kernel driver was loaded, for yet unknown reasons) | 22:57 |
| tomreyn | since we need to guess: you probably ran "lspci -k" there | 22:58 |
| brandon-taylor | Yes. `lspci -k | grep -A -3 -E "(VGA|3D)"` according to the Arch wiki. | 22:59 |
| brandon-taylor | Doesn't the output of `dmesg` clear itself out, however, with every reboot? | 22:59 |
| tomreyn | yes, but there is also journalctl --list-boots and journalctl -kb BOOT_ID_GOES_HERE | 23:00 |
| brandon-taylor | Okay. Here's the output of a failed boot which I had to end with "Alt-SysRq-S", "Alt-SysRq-U" and "Alt-SysRq-B". Beware; it's long. https://pastebin.com/9ytzMMdi | 23:06 |
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| tomreyn | brandon-taylor: radeon loaded first, but: " radeon 0000:01:00.0: [drm] Cannot find any crtc or sizes " - then amdgpu loaded but i assume it gave up quickly because the hardware was already taken by radeon. | 23:15 |
| brandon-taylor | Kernel modules loaded out of order, do you think? | 23:16 |
| brandon-taylor | It should have loaded drm BEFORE radeon? | 23:16 |
| tomreyn | it could have loaded amdgpu before radeon | 23:16 |
| brandon-taylor | Well, THAT shouldn't happen, right? Shouldn't radeon come before amdgpu? | 23:17 |
| tomreyn | drm is not a loadable module, it's part of the kernel | 23:17 |
| tomreyn | radeon did initialize before amdgpu, and i suspect that's why you had no graphics. | 23:18 |
| tomreyn | together with not denying radeon to drive the card, and asking amdgpu to do so | 23:18 |
| brandon-taylor | So you think those modules are conflicting with one another? | 23:18 |
| tomreyn | no, i don't think they conflict (other than whatever grabs the hardware first prevents it for the other). i think you should try to do what the arch linux wiki suggests in 2.2 | 23:20 |
| tomreyn | note that 2.2.2 won't work on ubuntu because ubuntu does not use mkinitcpio but (mkinitramfs / ) update-initramfs - which you should run after applying the changes in 2.2.2.1 | 23:22 |
| brandon-taylor | Hmm. I don't think mine is a Southern Islands (SI) or Sea Islands (CIK) one, so I probably don't need amdgpu at all, right? | 23:22 |
| tomreyn | so which one do you have? | 23:22 |
| brandon-taylor | Mine's a Radeon R9 270X. | 23:24 |
| tomreyn | hmm right thats GCN1 | 23:25 |
| tomreyn | Southern Islands | 23:26 |
| tomreyn | so use radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1 | 23:26 |
| tomreyn | and the module initialization parameters in /etc/modprobe.d which will be relevant for the initrd | 23:27 |
| tomreyn | hollowman: could you try fixing your client, please? | 23:31 |
| brandon-taylor | tomreyn: Do I plug `radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1` in the `/boot/grub/grub.cfg` file where the line starts with `linux /boot/vmlinuz-` and so forth? | 23:36 |
| tomreyn | brandon-taylor: you could do this if you just wanted to apply it temporarily, but the less erro prone approach is to edit /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub, which will regenerate the grub configuration | 23:38 |
| brandon-taylor | And I plug those parameters into `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT`, correct? | 23:40 |
| tomreyn | yes | 23:40 |
| tomreyn | make sure you also sudo update-initramfs -k $(uname -r) -u | 23:41 |
| tomreyn | ... after applying the edits in 2.2.2.1 | 23:41 |
| brandon-taylor | Okay, `update-initramfs` completed without any errors. So it should be safe to reboot now, right? | 23:44 |
| tomreyn | yes, i would think so. did you not get any screen output during the boot where you uploaded the kernel log from? | 23:45 |
| tomreyn | and if so, how did you get output again? | 23:45 |
| tomreyn | i'm just trying to understand what your options are if this change does not work out. | 23:46 |
| brandon-taylor | Yes, the screen was blank. When I rebooted, I pressed `e` at the GRUB menu and appended `nomodeset` to the `linux /boot/vmlinuz-...` line. | 23:46 |
| tomreyn | ok, that should still work now if you need to | 23:47 |
| ahc | Ubuntu 20.04.6 and screen timeout blanker has stopped working. Settings->Power->PowerSaver->Blankscreen I change from 5 minutes to 4 minutes, but doesn't blank screen any more. Comments an Bug Reports of the go back to 2020, but I have found any fixes. I should Upgrade from 20.04 i guess. | 23:47 |
| brandon-taylor | All right then, here I go. Rebooting! | 23:47 |
| brandon-taylor | VICTORY!!! | 23:49 |
| tomreyn | nice | 23:50 |
| brandon-taylor | But the sound is a little bit scratchy when I use the HDMI output. | 23:50 |
| tomreyn | see 6.9 on the arch wiki page | 23:51 |
| tomreyn | i'm not sure if it's this, though | 23:52 |
| brandon-taylor | Nah, it's something else entirely. Fortunately, I have an extra set of speakers... I'll hook those up and see what happens. | 23:52 |
| brandon-taylor | There we go. It sounds much better through my dedicated speakers. | 23:54 |
| tomreyn | very well, glad you had a workaround | 23:59 |
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