| tomreyn | i guess that's easier than not having (proper) graphics. | 00:00 |
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| brandon-taylor | I am tickled to near death to know that there's a community of people here to help, and that we were able to arrive at a solution. | 00:02 |
| tomreyn | i suggest reviewing your kernel log once more for potential amdgpu or drm issues | 00:03 |
| tomreyn | also generally - the system log for any errors: journalctl -p3 -b (use -p4 to also include warnings) | 00:04 |
| tomreyn | to look for any context around "amdgpu" and "drm" messages on your current kernel log ( journalctl -kb ), you could just search for those terms on the log (type: /amdgpu and press enter, then press n to go to next finding, N to go to previous, q to quit) | 00:07 |
| brandon-taylor | All right. Here's the output of `sudo dmesg | grep -e drm -e amdgpu`. https://pastebin.com/4NAbFJJH | 00:07 |
| tomreyn | no errors or warnings there for what i can tell | 00:09 |
| tomreyn | those audio errors, if logged would be tagges differently | 00:10 |
| tomreyn | those audio errors, if logged, would be tagged differently | 00:10 |
| tomreyn | it's late here, and i should sleep. have a nice day/night, brandon-taylor | 00:11 |
| brandon-taylor | so long! | 00:12 |
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| Psychic_Armada | gezzssss | 01:49 |
| Psychic_Armada | ( º_º) | 01:49 |
| Psychic_Armada | so many humans in this shit | 01:49 |
| Psychic_Armada | wich i dont even know exactly what it is.... | 01:50 |
| Psychic_Armada | not that I need to | 01:50 |
| Psychic_Armada | ubuntu... i´m guessing its some african lider... | 01:50 |
| Psychic_Armada | or dictator | 01:51 |
| Psychic_Armada | this network is a piece of shit | 01:53 |
| Psychic_Armada | not that freenode was better | 01:53 |
| Psychic_Armada | but this is hit | 01:53 |
| Psychic_Armada | undernet is not much better these days | 01:54 |
| Psychic_Armada | now.... | 01:54 |
| Psychic_Armada | i heard a korean guy invested millions of dollars on freenode servers | 01:54 |
| Psychic_Armada | and now he owns that shit | 01:55 |
| Psychic_Armada | ( º_º) | 01:55 |
| Psychic_Armada | nowadays who pays , owns... everything | 01:55 |
| Psychic_Armada | unfortunately.. we have to insert a new code line in that program | 01:56 |
| Psychic_Armada | nowadays who pays , owns... everything.... untill I arrive and decide its mine. | 01:56 |
| Psychic_Armada | not just because I can always do better | 01:57 |
| Psychic_Armada | but also because its in MY planet | 01:57 |
| Psychic_Armada | so it exists while I want it to exist | 01:57 |
| Psychic_Armada | andif it doesnt serve the purpose and my mission | 01:57 |
| Psychic_Armada | it is remooved | 01:58 |
| Psychic_Armada | ( º_º) | 01:58 |
| Psychic_Armada | and.... | 01:58 |
| Psychic_Armada | if the korean guy (whoever it is) wants to protest.. | 01:58 |
| Psychic_Armada | we canalways go back.. and stop his parents fromeven meet eachother | 01:59 |
| Psychic_Armada | wich means he wouldnt even be born | 01:59 |
| Psychic_Armada | ( º_º) | 01:59 |
| Psychic_Armada | no... its not an hitchcok movie | 01:59 |
| Psychic_Armada | its not twilight zone | 01:59 |
| Psychic_Armada | its reality | 01:59 |
| Psychic_Armada | get used to it. | 01:59 |
| Psychic_Armada | thank you..... | 02:00 |
| Psychic_Armada | and byebye. | 02:00 |
| brandon-taylor | Just a final thought before I vanish for the night: I think someone screwed up royally on the Linux 6.11 kernel in such a way that AMD GPUs can get screwed up so badly. Whoever it is, I hope Linus Torvalds makes his head roll. | 03:04 |
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| Marz | I see this error in unattended upgrades on new noble install. Could not figure out development release: Distribution data outdated. Please check for an update for distro-info-data. See /usr/share/doc/distro-info-data/README.Debian for details. | 05:44 |
| Bashing-om | Marz: ' dpkg -l distro-info-data ' on my 24,04 install > distro-info-data 0.60ubuntu0.1 . | 05:54 |
| Marz | that's what's installed on 24.04.1 | 05:55 |
| Marz | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PCNfNsse/default%20setting%20was%20auto%20 | 05:59 |
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| Bashing-om | Marz: Good sluething :D | 06:02 |
| mgedmin | interesting | 06:09 |
| mgedmin | well, I don't have any 24.04 servers at the moment, and my laptop is already on 24.10 | 06:10 |
| Marz | because the new development release isn't named as yet. i set it to false. turns out it is nothing | 06:11 |
| Marz | you don't prefer LTS? | 06:11 |
| mgedmin | on my laptop I want the latest stuff; everywhere else I'd rather reduce the number of upgrades I have to do | 06:15 |
| mgedmin | ah, the distribution data outdated is a non-fatal warning that gets lost in the flood of output from unattended-upgrades daily mails | 06:16 |
| mgedmin | I have it happening here too, I just never noticed | 06:16 |
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| Marz | you uodate your server every 9 months? | 06:20 |
| mgedmin | I said my laptop, and its every 6 months | 06:20 |
| Woet | any known issues on archive.ubuntu.com? | 07:21 |
| LoveZelensky | Zelensky is so sexy. I wanna lick his biceps, taste his dick, touch his chest, cum on his abs... | 07:21 |
| LoveZelensky | Zelensky is so sexy. I wanna lick his biceps, taste his dick, touch his chest, cum on his abs... | 07:21 |
| LoveZelensky | Zelensky is so sexy. I wanna lick his biceps, taste his dick, touch his chest, cum on his abs... | 07:21 |
| LoveZelensky | Zelensky is so sexy. I wanna lick his biceps, taste his dick, touch his chest, cum on his abs... | 07:21 |
| LoveZelensky | Zelensky is so sexy. I wanna lick his biceps, taste his dick, touch his chest, cum on his abs... | 07:21 |
| Woet | it works fine over IPv6, but with just IPv4 I'm getting unreachable IPs, time outs, and super slow speeds from multiple different providers and networks | 07:21 |
| Woet | https://gist.github.com/Woet/17afe666a3417e6be14d80063c84fb3d | 07:22 |
| mgedmin | yeah, same here | 07:24 |
| Guest23 | https://web.libera.chat/ | 07:24 |
| Guest23 | oops, wrong message | 07:25 |
| mgedmin | (can't test IPv6, don't have any, but over IPv4 security.ubuntu.com and lt.archive.ubuntu.com are both practically unusable) | 07:25 |
| Guest23 | Zelensky is so sexy. I wanna lick his biceps, taste his dick, touch his chest, cum on his abs | 07:25 |
| tomengland | not sure if it's related but my apt installs/apt updates have been really slow. | 07:25 |
| younder | To me it is not slow but a dozen packages have been deferred due to 'phasing' | 07:36 |
| younder | gir1.2-gtk-3.0 golang-github-containers-common gtk-update-icon-cache initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin initramfs-tools-core libgtk-3-0t64 libgtk-3-bin | 07:37 |
| younder | libgtk-3-common libgtk-3-dev libgtk-3-doc podman snapd | 07:37 |
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| younder | I have come to learn 'phasing' means something is fucked but we don't know what. | 07:39 |
| CosmicDJ | younder: phasing is more like 'we don't want to screw everyone at the same time *if* smth goes wrong' | 07:47 |
| [twisti] | what is the ubuntu way to auto mount usb drives when plugged in ? im talking about known devices with a preconfigured mount point, not random usb sticks - like an external hdd i plug in for backups | 07:56 |
| [twisti] | i saw debian had usbmount, but the only ubuntu package matching that name doesnt seem related nor appropriate for me | 07:56 |
| azidhaka | Hi everyone, I'm having a problem with my Ubuntu 22.04 workstation - with each kernel update, the linux-modules-extra-$version and kernel-headers-$version are not installed and have to be installed manually. Currently on 6.8.0-47-generic | 07:57 |
| azidhaka | I guess some package depends on linux-modules-extra and kernel-headers. linux-generic is installed, maybe linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04, which is not installed? | 08:05 |
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| mgedmin | and now packages.ubuntu.com is giving me internal server errors | 08:23 |
| toddc | mgedmin: https://status.canonical.com/ | 08:33 |
| * mgedmin bookmarks | 08:35 | |
| mgedmin | don't let obsolete packages stay installed kids | 08:37 |
| mgedmin | I had something called 'python-launchpad-bugs' from who-knows-what-era (Python-Version: >= 2.4) break a do-release-upgrade from 20.04 lts to 22.04 lts because pycentral didn't like /usr/bin/python being a symlink to python2 rather than python2.7 | 08:37 |
| Guest4 | Zelensky, I wanna lick your chest | 08:58 |
| Guest4 | Zelensky, I wanna lick your chest | 08:58 |
| Guest4 | Zelensky, I wanna lick your chest | 08:58 |
| Guest4 | Zelensky, I wanna lick your chest | 08:58 |
| Guest4 | Zelensky, I wanna lick your chest | 08:59 |
| Woet | toddc: https://status.canonical.com is all green, but archive.ubuntu.com is still having the exact same issues | 09:02 |
| Woet | not sure how it's being monitored | 09:03 |
| tomreyn | Woet: scroll down | 09:05 |
| tomreyn | i think some of these issues have *just* been resolved | 09:06 |
| Woet | tomreyn: yea, I can see the history on the other components, but nothing about archive.ubuntu.com | 09:06 |
| Woet | just PPA and security for today, ubuntuforums yesterday | 09:06 |
| tomreyn | Woet: hmm, right, what are you seeing for archive.ubuntu.com? | 09:07 |
| Woet | tomreyn: https://gist.github.com/Woet/17afe666a3417e6be14d80063c84fb3d | 09:07 |
| tomreyn | some of these mirrors appear to be the same for archive.u.c and security.u.c. | 09:07 |
| Woet | lots of time outs and very slow performance from every location (IPv4 only, IPv6 seems fine) | 09:08 |
| tomreyn | actually they're exactly the same mirrors | 09:08 |
| tomreyn | (currently) | 09:08 |
| Mdos | I'm trying to create a .lib file from the source code of secp256k1. When I run secp256k1/build$ cmake .. -DCMAKE_TOOLCHAIN_FILE=cmake/x86_64-w64-mingw32.toolchain.cmake I can't find any data about it. https://bpa.st/SLGNG this is the extract, can anyone help? | 09:47 |
| Guest4 | Zelensky fuck me hard plz | 09:56 |
| Guest4 | Zelensky fuck me hard plz | 09:56 |
| Guest4 | Zelensky fuck me hard plz | 09:56 |
| Guest4 | Zelensky fuck me hard plz | 09:56 |
| Guest93 | Zelensky fuck me hard plz | 09:57 |
| Guest93 | Zelensky fuck me hard plz | 09:57 |
| Guest93 | Zelensky fuck me hard plz | 09:57 |
| Guest93 | Zelensky fuck me hard plz | 09:57 |
| avir327 | Hello, I am looking for advice regarding pam resp. pam_mount (cifs/sssd/krb5): Using gdm3, with the default config under /etc/pam.d/, I have to wait ~30 seconds before logging in, or mounting of the share fails (-126: "Required key not available"). When logging in at the console, everything works as expected. So my questions are: 1.) is my assumtion correct, that I'd have to edit gdm3 related files under /etc/pam.d/? 2.) can you point me to a specific one | 10:04 |
| avir327 | (and in the best case describe the line to add)? 3.) is there a "managed" way to achieve this? (editing those files directly is advised against all over the docs and internets). | 10:04 |
| mgedmin | console logins and gdm logins use different files in /etc/pam.d/, but they both include some shared common-session, common-etc includes | 10:07 |
| mgedmin | there is automation for updating pam files consistently, let me try to remember where it's documented | 10:08 |
| mgedmin | I found the config dropins in /usr/share/pam-configs, but not the docs yet | 10:09 |
| mgedmin | ah, man pam-auth-update | 10:10 |
| avir327 | mgedmin: I ran 'pam-auth-update' and it is aware of libpam_mount. | 10:16 |
| avir327 | I noticed, that 'gdm-launch-environment' includes 'common-session' but not 'common-auth'. | 10:17 |
| avir327 | (assuming that 'gdm-launch-environment' my potential target) | 10:17 |
| avir327 | But this topic seems too delicate for trial-an-error technique... | 10:19 |
| mgedmin | I would expect the package to set up the pam configs correctly | 10:21 |
| mgedmin | I was under the mistaken impression that you changed some pam file following some readme yourself | 10:21 |
| mgedmin | I don't know how to explain the 30 second delay phenomenon | 10:22 |
| mgedmin | mounting requires some background service that hasn't started yet at the time you're entering your password in gdm? | 10:22 |
| mgedmin | maybe systemd-analyze plot can help, maybe not | 10:22 |
| avir327 | I had it working with hand crafted entries preceding the default entries (and additional minor editing) in 'common-session' and 'common-auth', but this led to "pam_mount password" (or similar, instead of "password" only) being requested at the login screen, as well as for sudo. | 10:27 |
| avir327 | not so nice. | 10:27 |
| avir327 | ...and I don't want to mess up the management by dpkg. | 10:28 |
| mgedmin | TIL that sudo apt install --print-uris package sets the package as manually-installed as a side effect | 10:31 |
| avir327 | so I assume that it's a pam config issue and not a misconfigured service dependency. | 10:31 |
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| mgedmin | I don't see anything like your problem at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-mount | 10:32 |
| avir327 | Yes, have been websearching intensely, to no avail. | 10:33 |
| mgedmin | packages.ubuntu.com is giving out 500 internal server errors again, what a day | 10:34 |
| avir327 | But nevertheless, the issue is real, starting with a vanilla 24.04 installation. | 10:35 |
| tomreyn | mgedmin: did you see what i responded to you last time you brought this up? <tomreyn> packages.u.c (a community maintained site) has been returning these errors for some years now. you can usually get around them with one or two shift-reloads | 10:38 |
| mgedmin | oh, I didn't realize it was a community-maintained site | 10:43 |
| avir327 | So, following this guide (https://www.bu.edu/engit/knowledge-base/linux/opensuseatbu-pam_mount/), everything works fine. Downsides: manual editing of config under '/etc/pam.d/' is required AND the "hackish" request for "libpam_mount-password" (or similar) instead of "password" at all authentication prompts. | 11:06 |
| avir327 | At least the latter let's me assume, that this is not the official way to accomplish this. | 11:07 |
| * avir327 is looking for the official way | 11:07 | |
| tomreyn | with sssd/kerberos questions, you might have more luck in #ubuntu-server (even though i understand this is a desktop use case) | 11:09 |
| avir327 | tomreyn: thank you, will try, I see your point! | 11:10 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:10 |
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| ledson | oi | 13:09 |
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| mdmbkr | at some point the fingerprint reader on my thinkpad seemed to quit working, but I realized it does still work, but first I have to click on the lock screen (after pressing a key to get the password entry field to appear) | 17:38 |
| mdmbkr | so, open laptop, press key, then click on desktop, and now the "or place finger on reader" prompt appears | 17:38 |
| mdmbkr | is this a deliberate change or? | 17:38 |
| snoop | ciao a tt | 18:22 |
| bitbinge | Can I speed up scrolling on linux gnome? | 18:49 |
| morgan-u | I closed chrome nrmally an overnight before I chose to update the system and then to immediately do the suggested computer restart. -- And yet, when I opened chrome, it asked to restare the pages because it hadn't been properly closed. --- And all the tbs cleanup I had not was not saved (and I am faced with a redo). --- so is this and other jamming problems I have with chrome, the fault of the chrome or my hardware, or the OS? | 19:38 |
| morgan-u | -- first time i have been clear about "this particular" manifestation. Thanks (mostly) guys and I am long-time frustrated with this. Anyone else? 23.04 | 19:38 |
| JanC | what's "tbs cleanup"? | 19:48 |
| JanC | maybe chrome is still running in the background after closing its window, and the computer restart kills it while it's still saving things? | 19:48 |
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| tomreyn | morgan-u: 23.04 has been EOL for a while now. | 21:03 |
| morgan-u | JanC, Youcould be right, but I closed chrome with exit. // after all THIS. typo. ( i closed tabs after setting bookmarks, and set tab groups on all the rest. Made the number of tabs 1/4 of what it was. | 21:04 |
| morgan-u | tom OUCH, i HAVE 22.04 and should recheck my typing. | 21:04 |
| morgan-u | I only use LTS | 21:05 |
| tomreyn | oh ok. also chrome is not part of ubuntu, is neither available via apt nor as a snap. | 21:05 |
| tomreyn | there is chromium, though, which is similar, but different. | 21:06 |
| morgan-u | I have reported problems about the behavior of chrome since 20.04 (it used to freeze the system so I had to push the button on the computer to hard reboot. Then it would cause a reboot... recently it freezes for a short while and kills chrome, and most recently chriome dies. I have always thought it is bad memory management on the part of chrome and purposely exit and restart chrome to reset that. That is why I exited chrome on | 21:10 |
| morgan-u | purpose last night before I went to sleep. This morning, I responded to a gui notice for update, even though I normally use apt. (If these details help, so much the better.) | 21:10 |
| morgan-u | Is chromium part of ubuntu? | 21:10 |
| ravage | Chromium is available as a snap | 21:11 |
| morgan-u | -- an aside -- I hae been using ddg on my iphone and it behaves well and is fast. | 21:11 |
| ravage | And your Ubuntu version 23 | 21:11 |
| ravage | 04 is end of life | 21:11 |
| ravage | So make sure to update | 21:11 |
| morgan-u | when is the end of support on it ravage? | 21:11 |
| ravage | !eolupgrade | 21:11 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 21:11 |
| ravage | Support ended January 25, 2024. | 21:13 |
| morgan-u | End of Standard Support 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)Apr 2027 --- almost 3 years away. (23.04 was a typo ravage. | 21:13 |
| tomreyn | ravage: note that morgan-u had a typo about "23.04", actually meant to type "22.04 LTS" | 21:13 |
| morgan-u | friends, I have a question. what can I use to see memory usage overall, for chrome? Am I using the best words, RAM? virual memory,... teach me please. | 21:15 |
| kut | shift+esc | 21:16 |
| morgan-u | ((I was just thinking well of myself because I do my homework before asking (even tho I have typos) and realized I never searched on this question. I found this about clearing my cache in chrome. https://www.ninjaone.com/blog/chrome-high-ram-usage/ -- I am not the lone ranger) | 21:17 |
| morgan-u | )) | 21:17 |
| morgan-u | n/m | 21:18 |
| morgan-u | I just found system monitor. this is cool. THANKS for all so far and see you later. | 21:22 |
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| morgan-u | Interesting, chrome is "doing things" while I am not touching chrome. | 21:23 |
| JanC | chrome uses a lot of memory when you have a lot of tabs open... | 21:25 |
| JanC | which might cause the system "freezing" when it starts swapping obviously | 21:26 |
| JanC | or at least it used to do that; I haven't tried it in a long time :) | 21:26 |
| JanC | and if you have a web pages open, those might be "doing things" | 21:27 |
| JanC | most likely running spyware & loading new ads & such | 21:28 |
| morgan-u | FYI alt + Insert [prtSC] + B caused chrome to give me info. (list of open tabs and a count of all) FYI | 21:28 |
| morgan-u | I was looking for a key combination to cause Ubuntu to shut down or reboot, or the system to shut down or reboot. | 21:29 |
| morgan-u | This lalows me to select pages to shut down and do them all at once. I am not bogged down by one screen reset after another. (checkmark emoji!) | 21:31 |
| tomreyn | chromium, and most likely also chrome, defaults to keep itself running in the background when you exit using the GUI. there used to be a setting to disable this in its preferences. not sure if it's still there. | 21:34 |
| morgan-u | No it doesnt. Unsure how to use. Looked as good. | 21:35 |
| tomreyn | a key combination to make ubuntu reboot, while its still working fine, is whatever you need to use to switch to a tty login, then ctl-alt-del | 21:35 |
| tomreyn | chrome://settings/system -> "Continue running background apps when Chromium is closed" | 21:37 |
| morgan-u | thanks tomreyn but I wanted to make it shutdown while NOT working fine. | 21:37 |
| tomreyn | !sysrq | 21:37 |
| ubottu | In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 21:37 |
| tomreyn | the next step of escalationis going to be a reset button or long-press on your power on button | 21:38 |
| morgan-u | thank you very tomreyn I turned off continue runn... let me see if that helps. (menawhile a nasty workaround for htat noew confusin thing was to duplicate a window with the tabs i want then close the many-tabs window BUT first i checked and the new tabs do NOT keep the history of each tab. !! | 21:40 |
| srg | Hi, every time I log into my 24.10 desktop, I get a notification to update the snap-store snap. But whenever I try to update it, it fails with: Unable to update "Snap Store": (null): cannot refresh "snap-store": snap "snap-store" has running apps (ubuntu-software), pids: 6289 | 21:46 |
| srg | I ran `snap refresh` in a terminal and it said all are up-to-date | 21:46 |
| cbreak | srg: if it's like 24.04, it'll fail to notify running snaps | 22:22 |
| enigma9o7 | what! they wouldn't make the same mistake twice.... | 22:23 |
| srg | Hmm I've rebooted a few time and the issue still happens | 22:25 |
| srg | I just want it to stop annoying me lol | 22:25 |
| enigma9o7 | well you could kill that process then run the update. | 22:26 |
| enigma9o7 | i think there may also be a way to exit with `--quit` but not sure | 22:26 |
| KeyboardCowboy | Hi, I think I've found a bug with the 24.10 installer and not sure how I should report it. I have a system with Windows 11 Pro installed with Bitlocker enabled. However, even when I select the option to erase the disk and install Ubuntu, I receive the alert saying Bitlocker is enabled and I need to reboot into Windows to deactivate it, or I can | 22:30 |
| KeyboardCowboy | choose the option to erase the drive and install Ubuntu. But, that is exactly the option I am already choosing. | 22:30 |
| KeyboardCowboy | Unless am I missing something and making a mistake, or need to boot the live USB or launch the installer with some flag to bypass that? | 22:31 |
| KeyboardCowboy | I can replicate this on a KVM virtual machine and my bare metal system. | 22:32 |
| tomreyn | i'd say: check for existing bug reports and if none, file one | 22:34 |
| tomreyn | !bug | KeyboardCowboy | 22:36 |
| ubottu | KeyboardCowboy: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 22:36 |
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