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[07:18] <IrcsomeBot> <Akshatsoft> 23 version reached to EOL , good idea is do clean installation (re @kekkocs87: Hi, I have Kubuntu 23.10 on my PC and I would like to upgrade to 24.10 but I can't. Does anyone have any suggestions?)
[07:34] <iomari891> greetings, How can I stop my plasma tooltips from disappearing so quickly?
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[09:11] <IrcsomeBot> <plutorocks> BTW is kgpeg an important tool for plamsa? Do I really need this?
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[09:46] <Elliria> If anyone here is using Kubuntu 24.04, if you right-click on your panel, do you see the "Configure Margins Separator..." and "Add Widgets..." and "Enter Edit Mode..." entries? Those are what I see in Kubuntu 22.04 and someone I'm trying to help only sees the "Icons-only Task Manager" entry.
[10:18] <Dino24> i have problems with Kubuntu on old hp desktop ... first generation i5 3 gb ram ... frst start i get wayland diagnose ... fctx .... after settings to fctx5 ... my computer chrashes sometimes 5 minutes or 15 minutes
[10:19] <Dino24> hdd is OK
[10:19] <tomreyn> 3 GB RAM is not going to be enough
[10:20] <Dino24> at specs is written 2GB
[10:20] <tomreyn> where's this?
[10:21] <Dino24> then xfc version ???
[10:21] <tomreyn> i'm afraid i don't understand this question
[10:21] <Dino24> i have ram usage about 1.4 GB
[10:22] <tomreyn> yes, kubuntu should still start, it just won't be very usable with just 3 GB
[10:30] <tomreyn> Dino24: i assume the root cause of what you described may be something else, though. maybe upload a photo to imgur.com or similar and share it here.
[10:33] <IrcsomeBot> <TimoSalola> running on almost 15 year old hardware and having 3 gb of ram doesn't sound very nice. You should be able to find an used 4 or perhaps even 8gb ram module which is compatible with your system for a low price. Here you'd get a 4gb stick for about 5 eur
[10:35] <IrcsomeBot> <TimoSalola> even if your os can boot with 3gb of ram, it will use all of it if you attempt to do pretty much anything. And when ram runs out, applications either crash or start using the HDD/SSD instead. Both of which are much slower than ram
[10:35] <Dino24> https://imgur.com/a/LCPUBMJ
[10:36] <Dino24> Kubuntu was usable with 2 GB RAM
[10:36] <Dino24> "was"
[10:38] <IrcsomeBot> <TimoSalola> and here I'm using about 10gb while only having dolphin, 2 firefox instances, thunderbird and latex editor open
[10:40] <tomreyn> it could surely help users make the right choices if there were easily accessible minimum system requirements on kubuntu.org
[10:41] <Dino24> 3 GB is enough for surfing, esay text editing, and writing simple python scripts
[10:43] <Dino24> and i think 4 GB or more ram will not give me a salvation
[10:43] <tomreyn> have you tried running it on Xorg instead of wayland= maybe that will help with the crashes
[10:43] <Dino24> maby ... how
[10:44] <Dino24> ?
[10:44] <tomreyn> i think you want 8 GB RAM minimum on a desktop
[10:44] <tomreyn> you can usually choose between Xorg and Wayland on login
[10:45] <Dino24> lol ... i maked auto login :)
[10:46] <tomreyn> just logout, and you should get there
[10:47] <Dino24> i am used to wait slow HDD :) ... i am old like pyramids in way of using computers ... my first programs i saved on Tape :)
[10:48] <Dino24> thx tomreyn
[10:50] <Dino24> now i stuck on initramfs prompt
[10:51] <Dino24> after exit he cannot mount my hdd
[10:55] <Dino24> after restart all goes good but for 10 minutes and game over
[11:42] <tomreyn> Dino24: this can actually be a hardware issue. i suggest you run a memtest86+ overnight.
[11:43] <Dino24> i think i will try ubuntu mate
[11:44] <Dino24> hardware is OK ... ubuntu bungie worked nice
[11:45] <Dino24> sorry budgie
[11:48] <tomreyn> yes, try some budgie jumping ;-)
[11:54] <Dino24> first i will give chance to ubuntu mate ... most simple
[12:19] <Dino24> new update seams to work
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:19] <Dino24> i instaled pycharm and tested some scripts ... works good
[12:19] <Dino24> i will stay little loger with Kubuntu :)
[12:21] <Dino24> 3GB RAM is not a problem
[12:22] <Dino24> Pycharm started and RAM usage is about 1.9GB
[12:26] <Dino24> system monitor sucks to much CPU ... about 40% and more
[12:30] <BluesKaj> using X11 or Wayland?
[12:31] <tomreyn> 40% of one thread of a first generation i5, that's totally fine
[12:32] <Dino24> ah ... it is not usage for all cpu-s
[12:33] <Dino24> OK
[12:33] <Dino24> kubuntu works smooth
[12:34] <Dino24> i will start with krita now ... then open shot
[12:55] <Dino24> next problem is wakingup from sleep state
[13:03] <Dino24> i will check old bios
[13:08] <Dino24> hm again booted to initramfs
[13:14] <iomari891> greetings, How can I stop my plasma tooltips from disappearing so quickly?
[13:25] <IrcsomeBot> <TimoSalola> iomari891 I might be mistaken here but aren't tooltips supposed to disappear instantly when you aren't for example hovering your mouse over an ui element anymore?
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