| ravage | if the download requires authentication or anything special the URL itself is not enough | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ravage | curl offers a lot more options. and your browsers dev tools can usually generate a curl command of a request | 00:01 |
| d3_2024 | i disabled the password to rule that out | 00:03 |
| d3_2024 | so I have to start the "Download" from the button to actually get the file to download, and then copy THAT link from browsers download list to get any data to transfer, trying this 1 more time with the quotes and I'll check with file | 00:04 |
| d3_2024 | thanks gents | 00:04 |
| d3_2024 | the JS button is part of the issue me thinks :P | 00:04 |
| d3_2024 | this is what I had to do the other day to get data to move, the one folder should only be a 25G zip, the download turns out to be 75g though and corrupted | 00:05 |
| d3_2024 | @ravage, @rbox the big download is going to be 500+GB in a zip, is Jdownloader better for this maybe? | 00:22 |
| rbox | what odes "better" even mean | 00:23 |
| d3_2024 | well if it dies, don't thing wget can resume | 00:24 |
| ravage | -c | 00:24 |
| d3_2024 | o.O | 00:24 |
| d3_2024 | hmmm lemme read manpage, I missed that lol | 00:24 |
| d3_2024 | the smaller ~25G zip is almost, done, we'll see if the quotes worked | 00:24 |
| d3_2024 | well spank my ass and call me charlie.... | 00:26 |
| TooManyHats96 | hi | 00:27 |
| d3_2024 | ravage, rbox, is there any cli tools like midnight commander/mc or ncdu that can drill into a large zip? | 00:30 |
| rbox | "drill into"? | 00:30 |
| d3_2024 | I guess they would have to fuse mount it first, just to browse the zip without extracting it | 00:31 |
| rbox | unzip -l | 00:31 |
| d3_2024 | I think you nailed it ravage quotes worked... | 00:31 |
| d3_2024 | scans.zip: Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract, compression method=store | 00:31 |
| d3_2024 | proper filesize :D | 00:31 |
| d3_2024 | it won't extract | 00:37 |
| d3_2024 | just errors with (null) | 00:38 |
| d3_2024 | file recognizes it Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract, compression method=store | 00:44 |
| d3_2024 | doesn't have a zip extension though, just linkDownloadxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | 00:44 |
| d3_2024 | "If your zip archive has 88,000 files and you are dealing with ~10Gig of content, you will need an unzip program that supports the zip64 extension." | 00:47 |
| d3_2024 | 7zip e works just fine now, ty for the help/letting me spitting out my random thoughts :P | 00:47 |
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| disgrunt | So... Ubuntu is going with SNAP for package management, yes? Is the latest long term stable release of Ubuntu capable of not using SNAP and if so could someone help me? | 06:22 |
| disgrunt | I have no problem with snap being there, but I would much prefer not to and realistically will abandon Ubuntu if it does that. | 06:24 |
| toddc | disgrunt: ubuntu is using more and more snaps yes but everything is availible as deb files if you prefer | 06:24 |
| disgrunt | toddc: Excellent... I modified my system to remove snap is upgrading to the latest stable possible using the standard installer? | 06:25 |
| disgrunt | Or do I need to do a clean install? | 06:26 |
| disgrunt | I don't remember how I modified it to do that. | 06:26 |
| mjt0k | what *is* snap anyway? :) | 06:27 |
| toddc | disgrunt: no just uninstall and snaps (snap store) then remove snapstore and snapd then all snaps should be gone | 06:27 |
| mjt0k | "Applications run fully isolated in their own sandbox, thus minimising security risks." ok | 06:28 |
| toddc | snap are just a small container that have everything need to run it application | 06:28 |
| disgrunt | toddc: If I live, and upgrading to the latest fails, could you walk me through doing that again? | 06:28 |
| disgrunt | toddc: I'm a Software Engineer with Linux since before the 2.0 kernel. | 06:29 |
| disgrunt | I'm not an IT guy. | 06:29 |
| toddc | disgrunt: if I am not here many others are and able to assist | 06:29 |
| disgrunt | toddc: Send it up the chain that I will abandon Ubuntu if they switch soley to Snap. | 06:30 |
| disgrunt | So will many others. | 06:31 |
| mjt0k | why people oppose to snaps, what's the main cited disadvantage? | 06:31 |
| disgrunt | mjt0k: No interoperability. | 06:31 |
| mjt0k | I mean for real, not like disgrunt | 06:31 |
| toddc | disgrunt: not likley I see snaps as better option and safer option and lees chance of causing issues with dependencies | 06:31 |
| disgrunt | mjt0k: I'm deadly serious. | 06:31 |
| disgrunt | toddc: I wouldn't know. | 06:32 |
| disgrunt | toddc: I probably agree with that and given you have only really deb and rpm a third option is a good idea. | 06:32 |
| disgrunt | In which case I'll go back to Debian. | 06:33 |
| disgrunt | You lose me to go with Snap. | 06:33 |
| disgrunt | (And MANY others) | 06:33 |
| toddc | disgrunt: snaps work on any linux system and no longer a need to compile for each distro | 06:33 |
| disgrunt | But at least three is the mathimagical number for a sane eco system. | 06:34 |
| disgrunt | toddc: Then I support it... You will lose me though. | 06:34 |
| disgrunt | Actually, even then I don't. | 06:35 |
| disgrunt | Fuck snap. | 06:35 |
| disgrunt | Well fuck... sorry... | 06:35 |
| disgrunt | I do. | 06:35 |
| disgrunt | toddc: Thanks for your time. | 06:35 |
| disgrunt | I gave why I support it. | 06:36 |
| disgrunt | toddc: Is snap available as an rpm and a deb? | 06:36 |
| disgrunt | My assumption is only the major distributions... | 06:37 |
| disgrunt | Which is fine but that's why I'll go back to Debian. | 06:37 |
| disgrunt | Thanks for your time. | 06:37 |
| disgrunt | Interoperability is important. | 06:38 |
| mjt0k | heh. that's entirely fine when people choose different distros, or move to different places/countries they like more :) | 06:38 |
| disgrunt | mjt0k: Indeed. | 06:38 |
| disgrunt | I have my reasons. | 06:38 |
| toddc | disgrunt: more of a replacemnt for deb and RPM apps as it is safer and more stable across all platforms | 06:38 |
| disgrunt | toddc: So I can install snap with a deb or rpm? | 06:39 |
| toddc | but you can mix and match with all | 06:39 |
| disgrunt | On any platform supporting those? | 06:39 |
| disgrunt | That's a loaded and irrelevant question. | 06:39 |
| disgrunt | Sorry... | 06:40 |
| toddc | disgrunt: yes the base snapd then install any snap you want from there | 06:40 |
| disgrunt | toddc: Keep it that way. | 06:41 |
| toddc | IE snap list | 06:41 |
| disgrunt | toddc: But thanks... Sorry... Dealing with shit and am someone you would never believe. | 06:41 |
| toddc | https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-ubuntu | 06:41 |
| disgrunt | Probably will be killed but that's not on you and you're not capable of helping. | 06:42 |
| toddc | removal would be the same just remove vs install | 06:42 |
| disgrunt | toddc: Thank you. | 06:42 |
| disgrunt | Have a good one. | 06:42 |
| disgrunt | You have helped me on the relevance of this topic though, so thank you. | 06:43 |
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| Mikes | Hello, how do I install openssl-1.1.1 on Ubuntu 22.04? Is there an apt-get install command? | 09:32 |
| ravage | No there are no packages | 09:37 |
| ravage | What is your problem? | 09:38 |
| Mikes | ravage I need the openssl-1.1.1 files for g++ I have now completely deleted openssl 3 | 09:40 |
| ravage | i dont think the compiler needs openssl at all | 09:41 |
| mgedmin | you're trying to build some software that hasn't been updated to work with openssl 3.0? | 09:41 |
| Mikes | mgedmin the software needs 1.1.1 | 09:43 |
| ravage | you can install the latest focal package from https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/libssl1.1 but keep in mind you dont get automatic updates and that can be a security risk | 09:46 |
| tomreyn | if you need to build outdated software, you should do so in a container OR VM. | 09:47 |
| tomreyn | don't downgrade your main system unneccessarily for that | 09:47 |
| ravage | you dont need to downgrade. both versions can exist | 09:47 |
| ravage | and its usually closed source software thats the problem 🙂 | 09:48 |
| Mikes | okay big thx ravage and 5E986Btomreyn | 09:48 |
| ravage | tested libssl1.1_1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.23_amd64.deb on 24.04. it installed fine. | 09:48 |
| ravage | but i dont need it. so i removed it again | 09:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I'd probably want to run focal in a VM too, if there really is not option to upgrade the software. | 09:52 |
| ravage | lxd is a great tool fot that 🙂 | 09:53 |
| tomreyn | ^^ | 09:54 |
| Mikes | ravage thx I also need the libssl dev from 1.1.1 | 09:57 |
| ravage | should work the same way | 09:58 |
| Mikes | ravage this libssl-dev_1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.23_i386.deb ? | 09:59 |
| ravage | i dont think you want 32bit? | 09:59 |
| Mikes | oh no 64 | 09:59 |
| ravage | so thats amd64 | 09:59 |
| Mikes | libssl-dev_1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.23_amd64.deb | 10:00 |
| mgedmin | that does not look right | 10:01 |
| mgedmin | the -dev package should match the libssl package version | 10:01 |
| mgedmin | if you used libssl1.1_1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.23_amd64.deb, then you want libssl-dev.1_1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.23_amd64.deb | 10:01 |
| mgedmin | err libssl-dev_1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.23_amd64.deb | 10:01 |
| ravage | https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/libssl-dev | 10:02 |
| ravage | so it should be http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl-dev_1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.23_amd64.deb | 10:02 |
| tomreyn | but you really shold do this in a container running an older ubuntu (other linux distro version, not on your main system, not downloading other versions .deb's directly | 10:04 |
| tomreyn | but you really should do this in a container running an older version of ubuntu (or other linux distro), not on your main system, not downloading other versions .deb's directly | 10:05 |
| Mikes | ok thx | 10:08 |
| mgedmin | philosophical question: if the software in question hasn't been updated to handle openssl 3.0, has it been updated to fix any security bugs found in the intervening years? | 10:12 |
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| tomreyn | stipioss: do you need any help there? | 11:22 |
| tomreyn | stipioss: sorry, i mised you up. | 11:23 |
| tomreyn | mixed | 11:23 |
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| MarkB2 | It is not often that a computer store salesman makes a constructive creative suggestion... and it works. | 23:03 |
| MarkB2 | Just left him an all 10's review on the store's website. | 23:04 |
| tomreyn | MarkB2: welcome to ubuntu volunteer support. do you have a support question? | 23:06 |
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