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JanC | if they would be "completely independent" you wouldn't be able to move windows between them, or have windows that are on all of them | 00:30 |
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stats4647 | Hi - not an ubuntu question, per se, but running on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. I have Postfix with Policyd-SPF and SMTP authentication through dovcot. I also have configured Gmail to send emails through my domain using the the auth. The problem is that whenever I send an email from Gmail, I get the following in my logs - "policyd-spf[183617]: prepend Received-SPF: Softfail (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.85.215.1 | 00:44 |
stats4647 | 71; helo=mail-pg1-f171.google.com;" Do I need to include google.com in my spf record (dns) or somehow tell my Postfix to bypass these checks for all authenticated emails? TIA | 00:44 |
tomreyn | stats4647: yes, that's not really an ubuntu topic, more a google or maybe postfix one. i think you want to add include:_spf.google.com to the SPF record on the domain name you are using in the FROM address you're using to send emails from gmail. https://support.google.com/a/answer/10683907 | 01:08 |
stats4647 | tomreyn: thank you vm | 01:08 |
tomreyn | although i may be misunderstanding what you're doing there, when you are saying that google is authenticating to your mail server? | 01:08 |
tomreyn | i doubt you can configure gmail to use a different mailserver's smtp authentication as in a smarthost setup | 01:10 |
stats4647 | tomreyn: correct, Gmail has an option to add non-gmail accounts, you verify that you own the account and also provide login/password so Gmail can relay messages through your domain. | 01:10 |
stats4647 | tomreyn: you can do that and then you use Gmail as your MUA to receive/send messages | 01:11 |
tomreyn | hmm, i see. so if this email was smtp authenticated then it should probably not have been SPF checked | 01:13 |
tomreyn | but other than that, what i wrote above still holds true if you want mail to arrive somewhere | 01:14 |
stats4647 | tomreyn: just tried and it didn't help. Maybe I just need to whitelist google.com in my policyd-spf.conf | 01:17 |
tomreyn | stats4647: you better talk this through with #postfix folks or at least #ubuntu-server, i don't want to send you in the wrong direction. | 01:18 |
tomreyn | there is also #google (or ##google?), but i haven't found that to be too active. | 01:18 |
stats4647 | tomreyn: incuding _spf.google.com isn't necessary for deliverability, per se, I didn't have it before and my deliverability was almost 100% | 01:19 |
stats4647 | tomreyn: makes sense, hopefully someone will respond on #postfix. thanks for your help | 01:19 |
tomreyn | good luck. and you're right in that you won't need to have _spf.google.com in SPF if gmail is authenticating to your mail server and sending with MAIL FROM @ your domain. you'll need your mail server in your domains' SPF then. | 01:23 |
causative | trying to put Ubuntu on a new laptop but my live USB won't boot? pressed Esc on the stalled Ubuntu boot screen to see it complaining that it can't mount the Windows drive because it's in an unsafe state. But why would it need to mount the Windows drive to boot from the live USB? | 03:01 |
oerheks | disable fast boot, hybernate. | 03:02 |
oerheks | it is just a check for available devices in the kernel. | 03:02 |
causative | I can't do anything in Windows because I did not install Windows and would rather not | 03:03 |
causative | the windows side is still on the language selection install screen | 03:04 |
oerheks | does boot stop? if not, you can perform a health check with disks application, and correct errors | 03:04 |
spinningCat | windows sucks | 03:04 |
oerheks | not helpfull, spinningCat | 03:04 |
spinningCat | i heard latest update of windows cause some problems | 03:05 |
spinningCat | you may suffer that | 03:05 |
spinningCat | i may get it wrong | 03:05 |
oerheks | he did not install windows at all | 03:05 |
causative | I have not finished installing Windows, because I read the EULA and would rather not agree to forced arbitration for any disputes with Microsoft for software I would barely use | 03:05 |
oerheks | oh, check for a bios update. | 03:06 |
causative | how would I get to disks application when the liveUSB doesn't boot? | 03:06 |
oerheks | if it does not boot to live, i am out of clues | 03:06 |
causative | yes, it does not boot to live | 03:07 |
oerheks | too new, maybe it needs a bios/uefi update first | 03:08 |
causative | this is what it says when I press esc while Ubuntu is trying to boot: https://imgur.com/a/0kw1ksS | 03:10 |
oerheks | errors in the ntfs filesystem. | 03:11 |
oerheks | it gives the same tips, fastboot and hybernate. | 03:11 |
causative | don't see why it needs to care about the ntfs filesystem whatsoever at this stage | 03:11 |
causative | it should work if the laptop didn't have a hard drive at all, right? | 03:11 |
oerheks | so, you are in a loop, one solution would be installing and activate windows | 03:11 |
oerheks | causative, yes | 03:12 |
causative | also I'm not sure if that is really what is blocking boot or maybe if it's something else that it's not reporting | 03:12 |
causative | because the "will be corrected by write" messages look like maybe it got to a later stage before stopping | 03:13 |
oerheks | not closed safe, so some inodes are in use. probably because you shutdown the installer. | 03:13 |
oerheks | boot a freedos iso? maybe that can correct ntfs | 03:14 |
causative | incidentally before Grub comes up a message briefly flashes on the screen that says "error /boot/ not found" | 03:14 |
causative | not sure if that matters | 03:14 |
causative | it does seem to have at least started boot | 03:14 |
causative | there was another boot option on the live usb to boot to "safe graphics" and this option got farther through the boot sequence but now I seem to be stuck on a black screen with an X mouse pointer | 03:17 |
causative | oh no wait, just took a while | 03:18 |
causative | no, this is a problem, I can get a login screen but only by switching to a different virtual desktop, and if I click to log in I am on the black screen with the mouse pointer. and if I switch to a virtual text terminal it flashes the text "authentication failure" briefly before also going black | 03:21 |
causative | not even giving me the chance to type a username | 03:22 |
causative | I don't want to try to correct the errors in ntfs because there's a chance this would prevent me from ever installing Windows in the future if i changed my mind | 03:23 |
causative | the errors are probably just because the installation process was put into hibernation, so I shouldn't mess with that or it could be in a broken state | 03:24 |
oerheks | check for a bios update, or install windows anyway. the serial will be stored in UEFI, and then you can wipe it. and resell it with windows license | 03:24 |
causative | how am I going to update my bios without a working OS on the computer? | 03:26 |
causative | I guess I could try a live USB from some other distro and see if it works | 03:26 |
oerheks | windows would do that, i guess | 03:27 |
tomreyn | causative: if you don't need the data on the disk you're meaning to install linux to then i guess you can just wipe the partition structures on it | 03:31 |
tomreyn | this can be done from any live linux that actually boots (i'm surprised that your ubuntu installer won't coot up properly, it makes me wonder whether there are more issues to it!) using wipefs | 03:32 |
tomreyn | alternatively, if youe bios supports it, an ata secure erase on the disk would also work | 03:33 |
tomreyn | just make sure you hit the right disk | 03:33 |
tomreyn | if you can edit efi system partition contents from the bios, removing that of windows would probably also work | 03:36 |
causative | but I don't necessarily want to remove windows, I'd rather install alongside windows so I would retain the option to install windows later if I wanted | 03:38 |
tomreyn | then boot the windows installer again and spawn a cmd.exe and run checkdsk /f against all existing disk. more help on that may be available in #windows | 03:39 |
causative | I don't want to accept the license screen | 03:40 |
tomreyn | i don't think you have to, but... off-topic here | 03:40 |
tomreyn | you seem to have come to a deadlock | 03:40 |
tomreyn | ubuntu tries to not just destroy other OS installations (which other OSes might do), thus needs to analyze how they are setup. which, with will, however, fail if fle systems are inconsistent, which is the case here apparently | 03:42 |
tomreyn | *file systems | 03:42 |
tomreyn | and it seems it is unable to handle this situation gracefully, or maybe your installer usb stick was just not written properly | 03:42 |
tomreyn | got to go, good luck! | 03:44 |
causative | thanks for the hint tomreyn I was able to open a command prompt from the installer with shift+F10 and do a clean shutdown of windows from there | 04:09 |
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Yogaum60000 | hello everyone | 05:40 |
lotuspsychje | welcome Yogaum60000 | 05:43 |
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causative | I seem to recall that in keyboard settings, there was an option to swap caps lock and ctrl. Did that go away? | 06:23 |
causative | or to make caps lock an additional ctrl | 06:23 |
causative | I guess that was gnome-tweaks all along | 06:28 |
chuanshi | how to play PUBG on Ubuntu | 06:30 |
LuckyMan | chuanshi, check https://www.protondb.com/search?q=pubg | 07:19 |
chuanshi | LuckyMan: thanks | 07:41 |
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simonb | Hi. The tomcat10 package for 24.04 is old and has medium rated CVEs that need patching. Im trying to find how I can get involved updating said package. | 09:34 |
simonb | It was pulled from Debian, but the Debian package has been updates since, the 24.04 package has now. | 09:35 |
simonb | *has not | 09:35 |
lotuspsychje | !info tomcat10 | 09:35 |
ubottu | tomcat10 (10.1.16-1, noble): Apache Tomcat 10 - Servlet and JSP engine. In component universe, is optional. Built by tomcat10. Size 37 kB / 296 kB | 09:35 |
simonb | 24.10 has 10.1.25. | 09:36 |
simonb | Since July | 09:36 |
simonb | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat10 package state. CVEs https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2024-24549 https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2024-23672 both with no progress, but its apparently fixed in 10.1.18 | 09:37 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Denial of Service due to improper input validation vulnerability for HTTP/2 requests in Apache Tomcat. When processing an HTTP/2 request, if the request exceeded any of the configured limits for headers, the associated HTTP/2 stream was not reset until after all of the headers had been processed.This issue affects Apache Tomcat: from 11.0.0-M1 through 11.0.0-M16, from 10.1.... <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2024-24549> | 09:37 | |
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Denial of Service via incomplete cleanup vulnerability in Apache Tomcat. It was possible for WebSocket clients to keep WebSocket connections open leading to increased resource consumption.This issue affects Apache Tomcat: from 11.0.0-M1 through 11.0.0-M16, from 10.1.0-M1 through 10.1.18, from 9.0.0-M1 through 9.0.85, from 8.5.0 through 8.5.98. Users are recommended to upgra... <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2024-23672> | 09:37 | |
oerheks | !sru | 09:38 |
ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 09:38 |
oerheks | url has changes, file a SRU https://canonical-sru-docs.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/reference/requirements/#what-is-acceptable-to-sru | 09:39 |
simonb | So that refers me to the SecurityTeams update procedure and states "Less critical bugs (like Denial of Service vulnerabilities in instant messengers or email applications) are also fixed usually, but with lower priority." So it should be fixed evenutally, but its a low priority. Fine but its been vulnerable for more than 4 months now. | 09:45 |
oerheks | or file a bugreport, i see no other way to write the team | 09:46 |
simonb | I will do. As Im a little surprised that the package for 24.04 has not been updated at all for 11 months. (based on the 2023-12-03 build date). | 09:48 |
lotuspsychje | simonb: there's also the #ubuntu-hardened channel if you want to chat with the security crew | 09:54 |
oerheks | this one only affected 8 and 9 | 09:55 |
oerheks | https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6880-1 | 09:55 |
lotuspsychje | #ubuntu-security now so it seems | 09:55 |
oerheks | Apache Tomcat 11 Version 11.0.0, Oct 3 2024 ... | 10:34 |
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BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:54 |
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osse | What determines whether to group two Windows into one icon in the sidebar? | 13:12 |
lotuspsychje | osse: you can tweak that in dconf-editor | 13:15 |
lotuspsychje | osse: search for click-action on the dock | 13:15 |
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yrlnry | Hi folks. Yesterday my laptop crashed. It came back up and the wifi and auxiliary HDMI monitor weren't working. It looks to me like many of the device drivers are not loading. For example, `nmcli device show` mentions the ethernet and loopback devices, but no wifi device. System settings for "Display and Monitor" lists the onboard LCD display but calls it "None-1" and doesn't allow aany resolution other than 1920x1080. What | 13:26 |
yrlnry | can I do to investigate this and fix it? | 13:26 |
leftyfb | yrlnry: try booting the previous kernel | 13:26 |
osse | lotuspsychje: thanks. but in one particular case I want to make sure to apps are _not_ grouped. | 13:27 |
yrlnry | leftyfb: Smart, thanks! Will do. | 13:27 |
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yrlnry | Rebooting with the previous kernel worked, thanks very much for the suggestion. How should i handle this moving forward? Should I try to fix the non-working kernel, or just wait until another kernel update comes along? | 13:38 |
yrlnry | (And then if the next kernel has the same problem, how should I proceed?) | 13:39 |
lotuspsychje | yrlnry: i would advise to file a bug against the non-working kernel and let the devs know about your issue | 13:40 |
lotuspsychje | (or affect an already existing one) | 13:40 |
yrlnry | Can you point me to the correct bug-filing site? | 13:40 |
lotuspsychje | yrlnry: ubuntu-bug linux , from your terminal (booted into your non-working kernel) | 13:41 |
yrlnry | https://bugzilla.kernel.org/ ? | 13:41 |
yrlnry | OK, thanks. | 13:41 |
BluesKaj | !launchpad | 13:41 |
ubottu | Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ | 13:41 |
lotuspsychje | yrlnry: the command will launch a browser for you, then add a title + description of your bug | 13:42 |
yrlnry | OK, I'm going to run `ubuntu-big linux` from the non-working state, if that doesnt appear to work I can try doing it directly in Launchpad. I was able to log in to Launchpad and I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | 13:45 |
yrlnry | Thanks for the support. | 13:45 |
yrlnry | lotuspsychje: It appears that ubuntu-bug crashed partway through: https://bpa.st/JEFKA . Any suggestions? | 13:52 |
yrlnry | Looks like I should not have run it is root.... | 13:54 |
yrlnry | n/m, as non-root it is working. | 13:55 |
yrlnry | Thanks very much folks, you got me working again. I really appreciate it. | 13:59 |
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lotuspsychje | yrlnry: tnx for bug #2086460 | 14:09 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2086460 in linux-signed-aws (Ubuntu) "Deivce drivers aren't loaded, no wifi, no HDMI monitor" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2086460 | 14:09 | |
lotuspsychje | yrlnry: are you using aws kernel on purpose? | 14:10 |
yrlnry | I am not using aws kernel on purpose. | 14:12 |
yrlnry | I am using the kernel that was installed by `apt dist-upgrade` | 14:13 |
yrlnry | I think maybe the working kernel is not aws. | 14:13 |
yrlnry | vmlinuz-6.8.0-48-generic | 14:13 |
lotuspsychje | yrlnry: your big ID shows kernel; linux-image-6.8.0-1017-aws | 14:15 |
lotuspsychje | *bug | 14:15 |
yrlnry | Right, because I ran `ubuntu-bug` from the bad kernel as you said to do. | 14:15 |
yrlnry | Bad kernel is linux-image-6.8.0-1017-aws . Good kernel is vmlinuz-6.8.0-48-generic . | 14:16 |
ravage | if generic works stick to generic | 14:16 |
yrlnry | How can I install an updated generic kernel? Also why did apt install an aws kernel this time? | 14:17 |
yrlnry | In the "Kernel and modules" section of synaptic I see `linux-image-aws` checked off. Should I uncheck it? | 14:24 |
yrlnry | Nah, I don't want to remove it because I might need to boot it again later if someone asks me about the bug report. | 14:24 |
ravage | installing linux-image-generic will get the latest generic version | 14:25 |
ravage | and also gets updated versions | 14:25 |
ravage | if you remove linux-image-aws then you wont get new aws kernels anymore | 14:25 |
yrlnry | OK. When I reboot, I need to pop into the grub menu and make sure that generic is selected and not aws. | 14:26 |
yrlnry | Oh, I bet I can tell grub which one to default to. | 14:26 |
ravage | you can | 14:26 |
ravage | you can also just remove all aws packages | 14:27 |
ravage | if the generic one runs stable | 14:27 |
yrlnry | Thanks. I don't want to do that until I'm sure no more information will be needed for my bug report. | 14:27 |
leftyfb | yrlnry: are you running in aws? | 14:32 |
yrlnry | Are you asking if my currently booted kernel is the AWS one, or are you asking something else? | 14:33 |
yrlnry | (If you are, the answer is no, it doesn't work for me.) | 14:33 |
leftyfb | yrlnry: I'm asking if your machine is from AWS? | 14:33 |
yrlnry | No, machine is not from AWS. | 14:33 |
leftyfb | then why do you have the aws kernel installed in the first place? | 14:33 |
yrlnry | I don't know. | 14:34 |
ravage | we had the same a few weeks back | 14:34 |
ravage | somehow a dull-upgrade pulled it in for no reason | 14:34 |
ravage | *full-upgrade | 14:34 |
leftyfb | yrlnry: remove it completely. The bug is probably related to running the AWS upgrade on a non-AWS machine | 14:34 |
yrlnry | I might have done a full-upgrade recently. | 14:35 |
ravage | you should really just get of all aws packages and use generic | 14:35 |
ravage | *get rid off | 14:35 |
yrlnry | Thanks. I don't want to do that until I'm sure no more information will be needed for my bug report. | 14:38 |
yrlnry | Now that the situation is under control it is not a problem for me to have the aws kernel installed. | 14:38 |
ravage | a not functioning aws kernel on non-aws platforms is not really a bug | 14:38 |
ravage | the only bug is how it ended up on your system at all | 14:38 |
lotuspsychje | +1 | 14:39 |
yrlnry | Yes, I agree. | 14:39 |
yrlnry | If the bug report is closed, I will uninstall the kernel. | 14:39 |
ravage | for that the history.log of apt/dpkg would be more helpful maybe | 14:39 |
ravage | thats /var/log/apt/history.log and /var/log/dpkg.log | 14:40 |
ravage | looks for "aws" in there | 14:40 |
yrlnry | Sadly there is nothing in there from earlier than today. | 14:41 |
ravage | there usually are older backup files | 14:41 |
ravage | history.log.1.gz for example | 14:41 |
ravage | and dpkg.log.1 | 14:42 |
ravage | and so on | 14:42 |
lotuspsychje | grabbed a wrong iso or so? | 14:42 |
yrlnry | https://bpa.st/BPN46 suggests that it was a stray click when I was running synaptic late at night. | 14:45 |
msknight | Problem with Retro Fighters Hunter USB joystick since upgrading to 24.04.1 kernel 6.8.0-45-generic. Syslog says... https://bpa.st/GD5PA It does seem that other people are complaining of USB troubles with some devices since upgrading also. | 14:48 |
ravage | yrlnry: no need for a bug report then | 14:49 |
yrlnry | Yup. I said as much in a comment on the bug report. | 14:50 |
ravage | msknight: 6.8.0-47-generic is available for me. do you see it for you too? maybe give it a try if they fixed something | 14:50 |
msknight | @ravage: Thanks. I'll take a look. | 14:50 |
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karenw | Updating via apt, some packages are held back due to phasing. But discover keeps nagging me there's updates available and suggests updating those phased packages. Is this intended behaviour? | 19:25 |
karenw | Since it's discover maybe I should ask in #kubuntu. Eh. | 19:26 |
oerheks | yes | 19:26 |
leftyfb | !phasedupdates | karenw | 19:26 |
ubottu | karenw: Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info. | 19:26 |
oerheks | !phased | 19:26 |
oerheks | one can disable it easily | 19:27 |
karenw | Yeah, I get how phased updates work. I guess it's discover not knowing what phased updates are. I'll ask in #kubuntu if it's a bug with discover when they aren't busy. | 19:27 |
oerheks | sudo pkcon refresh && sudo pkcon update ? | 19:33 |
karenw | oerheks: Yeah, pkcon wants to install the updates NOW. apt meanwhile reports they are still phased for my machine. | 20:03 |
leftyfb | karenw: you can just specify the package names on the commandline and they'll install now | 20:05 |
karenw | I don't necassarily want to update, I'm more interested in the fact I'm being nagged to update packages that are phased. (My issue is not with the phasing itself) | 20:07 |
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gaelheart | how can i get python3-psutil ? not in the repos i have | 22:57 |
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oerheks | it is.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-psutil | 22:59 |
oerheks | weird,!find does not see it | 23:00 |
oerheks | !find python-psutil | 23:00 |
ubottu | Package/file python-psutil does not exist in noble | 23:00 |
gaelheart | i can't find it | 23:01 |
oerheks | if this is somehow deleted, build it yourself? https://github.com/giampaolo/psutil | 23:01 |
gaelheart | yeah i don't know how to do that. thanks though | 23:01 |
oerheks | weird, conflicting information | 23:01 |
oerheks | ah " Supported Python versions are 2.7, 3.6+ and PyPy." | 23:02 |
gaelheart | i searched for "psutil" in synaptic. nothing | 23:02 |
oerheks | !info python3 | 23:02 |
ubottu | python3 (3.12.3-0ubuntu2, noble): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Built by python3-defaults. Size 23 kB / 81 kB | 23:02 |
oerheks | we are at 3.12 | 23:02 |
JanC | gaelheart: what Ubuntu version are you using? | 23:10 |
JanC | the 'python3-psutil' package is available in all supported Ubuntu versions | 23:13 |
JanC | !find python3-psutil | 23:14 |
ubottu | Found: python3-psutil | 23:14 |
JanC | !info python3-psutil | 23:14 |
ubottu | python3-psutil (5.9.8-2build2, noble): module providing convenience functions for managing processes (Python3). In component main, is optional. Built by python-psutil. Size 191 kB / 1,139 kB | 23:14 |
oerheks | yes, weird | 23:16 |
oerheks | mint? | 23:16 |
gaelheart | i am on ubuntu 24.04 LTS | 23:16 |
oerheks | check your source repos.. it is in main | 23:17 |
gaelheart | looking.. | 23:17 |
JanC | are you sure you are searching for the name in Synaptic? and no typos? | 23:18 |
gaelheart | i searched for python3-psutl, and also just psutil. tried sudo apt search psutil. nothing | 23:19 |
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oerheks | psutil surely gives the package in synaptic | 23:19 |
oerheks | apt is strickt | 23:19 |
JanC | searching for psutil should find multiple packages | 23:19 |
gaelheart | only thing that shows is a printer driver when i search for it | 23:20 |
JanC | and you should not use sudo with "apt search" ! | 23:20 |
gaelheart | let me try without sudo | 23:20 |
JanC | it will work with sudo, but it's not needed, so better not do it | 23:21 |
JanC | maybe do a "sudo apt update" first though | 23:21 |
gaelheart | nope | 23:21 |
gaelheart | ok let me update | 23:21 |
JanC | you'll have to quite Synaptic for that (or do it in Synaptic) | 23:22 |
oerheks | always run proper updates first, beginners lesson | 23:22 |
oerheks | and you are along for years now | 23:22 |
gaelheart | python3-psutil/noble 5.9.8-2build2 | 23:23 |
gaelheart | there it is | 23:23 |
gaelheart | thanks ya'll | 23:23 |
gaelheart | much appreciate | 23:23 |
gaelheart | d | 23:23 |
oerheks | have fun! | 23:23 |
gaelheart | thanks so much! | 23:24 |
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