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JanCif they would be "completely independent" you wouldn't be able to move windows between them, or have windows that are on all of them00:30
stats4647Hi - not an ubuntu question, per se, but running on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. I have Postfix with Policyd-SPF and SMTP authentication through dovcot. I also have configured Gmail to send emails through my domain using the the auth. The problem is that whenever I send an email from Gmail, I get the following in my logs - "policyd-spf[183617]: prepend Received-SPF: Softfail (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.85.215.100:44
stats464771; helo=mail-pg1-f171.google.com;" Do I need to include google.com in my spf record (dns) or somehow tell my Postfix to bypass these checks for all authenticated emails? TIA00:44
tomreynstats4647: yes, that's not really an ubuntu topic, more a google or maybe postfix one. i think you want to add include:_spf.google.com to the SPF record on the domain name you are using in the FROM address you're using to send emails from gmail. https://support.google.com/a/answer/1068390701:08
stats4647tomreyn: thank you vm01:08
tomreynalthough i may be misunderstanding what you're doing there, when you are saying that google is authenticating to your mail server?01:08
tomreyni doubt you can configure gmail to use a different mailserver's smtp authentication as in a smarthost setup01:10
stats4647tomreyn: correct, Gmail has an option to add non-gmail accounts, you verify that you own the account and also provide login/password so Gmail can relay messages through your domain.01:10
stats4647tomreyn: you can do that and then you use Gmail as your MUA to receive/send messages01:11
tomreynhmm, i see. so if this email was smtp authenticated then it should probably not have been SPF checked01:13
tomreynbut other than that, what i wrote above still holds true if you want mail to arrive somewhere01:14
stats4647tomreyn: just tried and it didn't help. Maybe I just need to whitelist google.com in my policyd-spf.conf01:17
tomreynstats4647: you better talk this through with #postfix folks or at least #ubuntu-server, i don't want to send you in the wrong direction.01:18
tomreynthere is also #google (or ##google?), but i haven't found that to be too active.01:18
stats4647tomreyn: incuding _spf.google.com isn't necessary for deliverability, per se, I didn't have it before and my deliverability was almost 100%01:19
stats4647tomreyn: makes sense, hopefully someone will respond on #postfix. thanks for your help01:19
tomreyngood luck. and you're right in that you won't need to have _spf.google.com in SPF if gmail is authenticating to your mail server and sending with MAIL FROM @ your domain. you'll need your mail server in your domains' SPF then.01:23
causativetrying to put Ubuntu on a new laptop but my live USB won't boot? pressed Esc on the stalled Ubuntu boot screen to see it complaining that it can't mount the Windows drive because it's in an unsafe state. But why would it need to mount the Windows drive to boot from the live USB?03:01
oerheksdisable fast boot, hybernate.03:02
oerheksit is just a check for available devices in the kernel.03:02
causativeI can't do anything in Windows because I did not install Windows and would rather not03:03
causativethe windows side is still on the language selection install screen03:04
oerheksdoes boot stop? if not, you can perform a health check with disks application, and correct errors03:04
spinningCatwindows sucks03:04
oerheksnot helpfull, spinningCat03:04
spinningCati heard latest update of windows cause some problems03:05
spinningCatyou may suffer that03:05
spinningCati may get it wrong03:05
oerhekshe did not install windows at all03:05
causativeI have not finished installing Windows, because I read the EULA and would rather not agree to forced arbitration for any disputes with Microsoft for software I would barely use03:05
oerheksoh, check for a bios update.03:06
causativehow would I get to disks application when the liveUSB doesn't boot?03:06
oerheksif it does not boot to live, i am out of clues03:06
causativeyes, it does not boot to live03:07
oerhekstoo new, maybe it needs a bios/uefi update first03:08
causativethis is what it says when I press esc while Ubuntu is trying to boot: https://imgur.com/a/0kw1ksS03:10
oerhekserrors in the ntfs filesystem.03:11
oerheksit gives the same tips, fastboot and hybernate.03:11
causativedon't see why it needs to care about the ntfs filesystem whatsoever at this stage03:11
causativeit should work if the laptop didn't have a hard drive at all, right?03:11
oerheksso, you are in a loop, one solution would be installing and activate windows03:11
oerhekscausative, yes03:12
causativealso I'm not sure if that is really what is blocking boot or maybe if it's something else that it's not reporting03:12
causativebecause the "will be corrected by write" messages look like maybe it got to a later stage before stopping03:13
oerheksnot closed safe, so some inodes are in use. probably because you shutdown the installer.03:13
oerheksboot a freedos iso? maybe that can correct ntfs03:14
causativeincidentally before Grub comes up a message briefly flashes on the screen that says "error /boot/ not found"03:14
causativenot sure if that matters03:14
causativeit does seem to have at least started boot03:14
causativethere was another boot option on the live usb to boot to "safe graphics" and this option got farther through the boot sequence but now I seem to be stuck on a black screen with an X mouse pointer03:17
causativeoh no wait, just took a while03:18
causativeno, this is a problem, I can get a login screen but only by switching to a different virtual desktop, and if I click to log in I am on the black screen with the mouse pointer. and if I switch to a virtual text terminal it flashes the text "authentication failure" briefly before also going black03:21
causativenot even giving me the chance to type a username03:22
causativeI don't want to try to correct the errors in ntfs because there's a chance this would prevent me from ever installing Windows in the future if i changed my mind03:23
causativethe errors are probably just because the installation process was put into hibernation, so I shouldn't mess with that or it could be in a broken state03:24
oerhekscheck for a bios update, or install windows anyway. the serial will be stored in UEFI, and then you can wipe it. and resell it with windows license03:24
causativehow am I going to update my bios without a working OS on the computer?03:26
causativeI guess I could try a live USB from some other distro and see if it works03:26
oerhekswindows would do that, i guess03:27
tomreyncausative: if you don't need the data on the disk you're meaning to install linux to then i guess you can just wipe the partition structures on it03:31
tomreynthis can be done from any live linux that actually boots (i'm surprised that your ubuntu installer won't coot up properly, it makes me wonder whether there are more issues to it!) using wipefs03:32
tomreynalternatively, if youe bios supports it, an ata secure erase on the disk would also work03:33
tomreynjust make sure you hit the right disk03:33
tomreynif you can edit efi system partition contents from the bios, removing that of windows would probably also work03:36
causativebut I don't necessarily want to remove windows, I'd rather install alongside windows so I would retain the option to install windows later if I wanted03:38
tomreynthen boot the windows installer again and spawn a cmd.exe and run checkdsk /f against all existing disk. more help on that may be available in #windows03:39
causativeI don't want to accept the license screen03:40
tomreyni don't think you have to, but... off-topic here03:40
tomreynyou seem to have come to a deadlock03:40
tomreynubuntu tries to not just destroy other OS installations (which other OSes might do), thus needs to analyze how they are setup. which, with will, however, fail if fle systems are inconsistent, which is the case here apparently03:42
tomreyn*file systems03:42
tomreynand it seems it is unable to handle this situation gracefully, or maybe your installer usb stick was just not written properly03:42
tomreyngot to go, good luck!03:44
causativethanks for the hint tomreyn I was able to open a command prompt from the installer with shift+F10 and do a clean shutdown of windows from there04:09
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Yogaum60000hello everyone05:40
lotuspsychjewelcome Yogaum6000005:43
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causativeI seem to recall that in keyboard settings, there was an option to swap caps lock and ctrl. Did that go away?06:23
causativeor to make caps lock an additional ctrl06:23
causativeI guess that was gnome-tweaks all along06:28
chuanshihow to play PUBG on Ubuntu06:30
LuckyManchuanshi, check https://www.protondb.com/search?q=pubg07:19
chuanshiLuckyMan: thanks07:41
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simonbHi. The tomcat10 package for 24.04 is old and has medium rated CVEs that need patching. Im trying to find how I can get involved updating said package.09:34
simonbIt was pulled from Debian, but the Debian package has been updates since, the 24.04 package has now.09:35
simonb*has not09:35
lotuspsychje!info tomcat1009:35
ubottutomcat10 (10.1.16-1, noble): Apache Tomcat 10 - Servlet and JSP engine. In component universe, is optional. Built by tomcat10. Size 37 kB / 296 kB09:35
simonb24.10 has 10.1.25.09:36
simonbSince July09:36
simonbhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat10 package state. CVEs https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2024-24549 https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2024-23672 both with no progress, but its apparently fixed in 10.1.1809:37
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Denial of Service due to improper input validation vulnerability for HTTP/2 requests in Apache Tomcat. When processing an HTTP/2 request, if the request exceeded any of the configured limits for headers, the associated HTTP/2 stream was not reset until after all of the headers had been processed.This issue affects Apache Tomcat: from 11.0.0-M1 through 11.0.0-M16, from 10.1.... <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2024-24549>09:37
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Denial of Service via incomplete cleanup vulnerability in Apache Tomcat. It was possible for WebSocket clients to keep WebSocket connections open leading to increased resource consumption.This issue affects Apache Tomcat: from 11.0.0-M1 through 11.0.0-M16, from 10.1.0-M1 through 10.1.18, from 9.0.0-M1 through 9.0.85, from 8.5.0 through 8.5.98. Users are recommended to upgra... <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2024-23672>09:37
oerheks!sru09:38
ubottuStable Release Update information is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates09:38
oerheksurl has changes, file a SRU https://canonical-sru-docs.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/reference/requirements/#what-is-acceptable-to-sru09:39
simonbSo that refers me to the SecurityTeams update procedure and states "Less critical bugs (like Denial of Service vulnerabilities in instant messengers or email applications) are also fixed usually, but with lower priority." So it should be fixed evenutally, but its a low priority. Fine but its been vulnerable for more than 4 months now.09:45
oerheksor file a bugreport, i see no other way to write the team09:46
simonbI will do. As Im a little surprised that the package for 24.04 has not been updated at all for 11 months. (based on the 2023-12-03 build date).09:48
lotuspsychjesimonb: there's also the #ubuntu-hardened channel if you want to chat with the security crew09:54
oerheksthis one only affected 8 and 909:55
oerhekshttps://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6880-109:55
lotuspsychje#ubuntu-security now so it seems09:55
oerheksApache Tomcat 11 Version 11.0.0, Oct 3 2024 ...10:34
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BluesKajHi all12:54
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osseWhat determines whether to group two Windows into one icon in the sidebar?13:12
lotuspsychjeosse: you can tweak that in dconf-editor13:15
lotuspsychjeosse: search for click-action on the dock13:15
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yrlnryHi folks.  Yesterday my laptop crashed.  It came back up and the wifi and auxiliary HDMI monitor weren't working.  It looks to me like many of the device drivers are not loading.  For example, `nmcli device show` mentions the ethernet and loopback devices, but no wifi device.  System settings for "Display and Monitor" lists the onboard LCD display but calls it  "None-1" and doesn't allow aany resolution other than 1920x1080.  What13:26
yrlnrycan I do to investigate this and fix it?13:26
leftyfbyrlnry: try booting the previous kernel13:26
osselotuspsychje: thanks. but in one particular case I want to make sure to apps are _not_ grouped.13:27
yrlnryleftyfb: Smart, thanks!  Will do.13:27
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yrlnryRebooting with the previous kernel worked, thanks very much for the suggestion.  How should i handle this moving forward?  Should I try to fix the non-working kernel, or just wait until another kernel update comes along?13:38
yrlnry(And then if the next kernel has the same problem, how should I proceed?)13:39
lotuspsychjeyrlnry: i would advise to file a bug against the non-working kernel and let the devs know about your issue13:40
lotuspsychje(or affect an already existing one)13:40
yrlnryCan you point me to the correct bug-filing site?13:40
lotuspsychjeyrlnry: ubuntu-bug linux , from your terminal (booted into your non-working kernel)13:41
yrlnryhttps://bugzilla.kernel.org/ ?13:41
yrlnryOK, thanks.13:41
BluesKaj!launchpad13:41
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/13:41
lotuspsychjeyrlnry: the command will launch a browser for you, then add a title + description of your bug13:42
yrlnryOK, I'm going to run `ubuntu-big linux` from the non-working state, if that doesnt appear to work I can try doing it directly in Launchpad.  I was able to log in to Launchpad and I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs13:45
yrlnryThanks for the support.13:45
yrlnrylotuspsychje: It appears that ubuntu-bug crashed partway through: https://bpa.st/JEFKA  .  Any suggestions?13:52
yrlnryLooks like I should not have run it is root....13:54
yrlnryn/m, as non-root it is working.13:55
yrlnryThanks very much folks, you got me working again.  I really appreciate it.13:59
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lotuspsychjeyrlnry: tnx for bug #208646014:09
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2086460 in linux-signed-aws (Ubuntu) "Deivce drivers aren't loaded, no wifi, no HDMI monitor" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208646014:09
lotuspsychjeyrlnry: are you using aws kernel on purpose?14:10
yrlnryI am not using aws kernel on purpose.14:12
yrlnryI am using the kernel that was installed by `apt dist-upgrade`14:13
yrlnryI think maybe the working kernel is not aws.14:13
yrlnryvmlinuz-6.8.0-48-generic14:13
lotuspsychjeyrlnry: your big ID shows kernel; linux-image-6.8.0-1017-aws14:15
lotuspsychje*bug14:15
yrlnryRight, because I ran `ubuntu-bug` from the bad kernel as you said to do.14:15
yrlnryBad kernel is linux-image-6.8.0-1017-aws .  Good kernel is vmlinuz-6.8.0-48-generic .14:16
ravageif generic works stick to generic14:16
yrlnryHow can I install an updated generic kernel?  Also why did apt install an aws kernel this time?14:17
yrlnryIn the "Kernel and modules" section of synaptic I see `linux-image-aws` checked off.  Should I uncheck it?14:24
yrlnryNah, I don't want to remove it because I might need to boot it again later if someone asks me about the bug report.14:24
ravageinstalling linux-image-generic will get the latest generic version14:25
ravageand also gets updated versions14:25
ravageif you remove linux-image-aws then you wont get new aws kernels anymore14:25
yrlnryOK.  When I reboot, I need to pop into the grub menu and make sure that generic is selected and not aws.14:26
yrlnryOh, I bet I can tell grub which one to default to.14:26
ravageyou can14:26
ravageyou can also just remove all aws packages14:27
ravageif the generic one runs stable14:27
yrlnryThanks.  I don't want to do that until I'm sure no more information will be needed for my bug report.14:27
leftyfbyrlnry: are you running in aws?14:32
yrlnryAre you asking if my currently booted kernel is the AWS one, or are you asking something else?14:33
yrlnry(If you are, the answer is no, it doesn't work for me.)14:33
leftyfbyrlnry: I'm asking if your machine is from AWS?14:33
yrlnryNo, machine is not from AWS.14:33
leftyfbthen why do you have the aws kernel installed in the first place?14:33
yrlnryI don't know.14:34
ravagewe had the same a few weeks back14:34
ravagesomehow a dull-upgrade pulled it in for no reason14:34
ravage*full-upgrade14:34
leftyfbyrlnry: remove it completely. The bug is probably related to running the AWS upgrade on a non-AWS machine14:34
yrlnryI might have done a full-upgrade recently.14:35
ravageyou should really just get of all aws packages and use generic14:35
ravage*get rid off14:35
yrlnryThanks.  I don't want to do that until I'm sure no more information will be needed for my bug report.14:38
yrlnryNow that the situation is under control it is not a problem for me to have the aws kernel installed.14:38
ravagea not functioning aws kernel on non-aws platforms is not really a bug14:38
ravagethe only bug is how it ended up on your system at all14:38
lotuspsychje+114:39
yrlnryYes, I agree.14:39
yrlnryIf the bug  report is closed, I will uninstall the kernel.14:39
ravagefor that the history.log of apt/dpkg would be more helpful maybe14:39
ravagethats /var/log/apt/history.log and /var/log/dpkg.log14:40
ravagelooks for "aws" in there14:40
yrlnrySadly there is nothing in there from earlier than today.14:41
ravagethere usually are older backup files14:41
ravagehistory.log.1.gz for example14:41
ravageand dpkg.log.114:42
ravageand so on14:42
lotuspsychjegrabbed a wrong iso or so?14:42
yrlnryhttps://bpa.st/BPN46 suggests that it was a stray click when I was running synaptic late at night.14:45
msknightProblem with Retro Fighters Hunter USB joystick since upgrading to 24.04.1 kernel 6.8.0-45-generic. Syslog says... https://bpa.st/GD5PA It does seem that other people are complaining of USB troubles with some devices since upgrading also.14:48
ravageyrlnry: no need for a bug report then14:49
yrlnryYup.  I said as much in a comment on the bug report.14:50
ravagemsknight: 6.8.0-47-generic is available for me. do you see it for you too? maybe give it a try if they fixed something14:50
msknight@ravage: Thanks. I'll take a look.14:50
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karenwUpdating via apt, some packages are held back due to phasing. But discover keeps nagging me there's updates available and suggests updating those phased packages. Is this intended behaviour?19:25
karenwSince it's discover maybe I should ask in #kubuntu. Eh.19:26
oerheksyes19:26
leftyfb!phasedupdates | karenw19:26
ubottukarenw: Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info.19:26
oerheks!phased19:26
oerheksone can disable it easily19:27
karenwYeah, I get how phased updates work. I guess it's discover not knowing what phased updates are. I'll ask in #kubuntu if it's a bug with discover when they aren't busy.19:27
oerhekssudo pkcon refresh && sudo pkcon update ?19:33
karenwoerheks: Yeah, pkcon wants to install the updates NOW. apt meanwhile reports they are still phased for my machine.20:03
leftyfbkarenw: you can just specify the package names on the commandline and they'll install now20:05
karenwI don't necassarily want to update, I'm more interested in the fact I'm being nagged to update packages that are phased. (My issue is not with the phasing itself)20:07
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gaelhearthow can i get python3-psutil ? not in the repos i have22:57
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oerheksit is.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-psutil22:59
oerheksweird,!find does not see it23:00
oerheks!find python-psutil23:00
ubottuPackage/file python-psutil does not exist in noble23:00
gaelhearti can't find it23:01
oerheksif this is somehow deleted, build it yourself? https://github.com/giampaolo/psutil23:01
gaelheartyeah i don't know how to do that.  thanks though23:01
oerheksweird, conflicting information23:01
oerheksah " Supported Python versions are 2.7, 3.6+ and PyPy."23:02
gaelhearti searched for "psutil" in synaptic. nothing23:02
oerheks!info python323:02
ubottupython3 (3.12.3-0ubuntu2, noble): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Built by python3-defaults. Size 23 kB / 81 kB23:02
oerhekswe are at 3.1223:02
JanCgaelheart: what Ubuntu version are you using?23:10
JanCthe 'python3-psutil' package is available in all supported Ubuntu versions23:13
JanC!find python3-psutil23:14
ubottuFound: python3-psutil23:14
JanC!info python3-psutil23:14
ubottupython3-psutil (5.9.8-2build2, noble): module providing convenience functions for managing processes (Python3). In component main, is optional. Built by python-psutil. Size 191 kB / 1,139 kB23:14
oerheksyes, weird23:16
oerheksmint?23:16
gaelhearti am on ubuntu 24.04 LTS23:16
oerhekscheck your source repos.. it is in main23:17
gaelheartlooking..23:17
JanCare you sure you are searching for the name in Synaptic? and no typos?23:18
gaelhearti searched for python3-psutl,  and also just psutil.  tried sudo apt search psutil. nothing23:19
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oerhekspsutil surely gives the package in synaptic23:19
oerheksapt is strickt23:19
JanCsearching for psutil should find multiple packages23:19
gaelheartonly thing that shows is a printer driver when i search for it23:20
JanCand you should not use sudo with "apt search" !23:20
gaelheartlet me try without sudo23:20
JanCit will work with sudo, but it's not needed, so better not do it23:21
JanCmaybe do a "sudo apt update" first though23:21
gaelheartnope23:21
gaelheartok let me update23:21
JanCyou'll have to quite Synaptic for that (or do it in Synaptic)23:22
oerheksalways run proper updates first, beginners lesson23:22
oerheksand you are along for years now23:22
gaelheartpython3-psutil/noble 5.9.8-2build223:23
gaelheartthere it is23:23
gaelheartthanks ya'll23:23
gaelheartmuch appreciate23:23
gaelheartd23:23
oerhekshave fun!23:23
gaelheartthanks so much!23:24

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