[00:00] I bought a laptop with advertised 38 Wh battery. Power statistics tells me that energy when full is 30.4 Wh and that energy(Design) is 30.4 Wh. Was this false advertising or is there some reason Power Statistics would be inaccurate? Is it possible that the battery is used? [00:01] are there different ways to calculate energy(design) by which it would not be false advertising, just a different calculation method? [00:02] no idea, ask in #hardware ? [00:02] unused or under load.. [00:03] maybe they claim a battery gets better after 10 charges? [00:03] heard that before === seanh is now known as Guest5271 === seanh1 is now known as seanh [03:08] my laptop's screen shuts off from inactivity (ok) and then won't come on again (problem) === Guest5271 is now known as seanh [03:21] Strange question perhaps but do you thihnk the ubuntu bashrc is fairly consistent over years and versions and releases? === JanC is now known as Guest8309 [04:45] sybariten, couldn't tell you because I just overwrite it, I believe my bashrc traces its lineage back to a 2006 era macbook [04:46] the default font in 24.04 doesn't look right in arabic. the text is like cut in half in nautilus. i can see the top half of the letters but the bottom is cut off. is there something i can do about this? [04:47] specifically the file picker [04:48] https://imgur.com/a/vXMTE4C [04:48] no idea but would reducing the system font size help? [04:49] i didn't think of that. let me try [04:49] yeah that looks like the text is just too tall for the space available [04:49] also you could click on "grid view" in the top right [04:50] yeah that didn't work making it smaller to 10. let me try the grid view [04:51] ahhh thank you! perfect [04:51] or in arabic shukran habibi [04:51] :) [04:51] seems like a bug, the rows ought to be at least as tall as the text [04:52] yeah it's really wierd [04:53] https://imgur.com/a/vXMTE4C [04:53] before and after [04:54] gnome-tweaks lets you mess with the system fonts a little, maybe choosing a different Arabic font would help - maybe the problem is that particular font doesn't report its height properly [04:54] oh ok makes sense [04:55] yeah it is ubuntu sans maybe i should try noto sans [04:59] that's slightly better. in english if you cut off the bottom of the y or the g it kinda is like that now. under what would be a notebook line is cut off but with noto sans i can see 95% of it. better than half. i'll keep playing around until i find one that works [05:01] i like the grid better anyway. ill end up using it like that anyway. good lookin out [05:17] Okay, so, I solved why it seemed like apt was holding back packaged due to phasing but pkcon was not. I was not reading the message fully, it wasn't due to phasing at all. `apt dist-upgrade` resolved it because it needed a new dependency installing. [06:46] hello === Dieu is now known as yuta [07:51] hi === tangomango2653 is now known as tangomango265 [09:21] всем привет [09:21] есть кто говорящий на русском? [09:24] Anyone having issues with timeouts when updating packages? [09:45] Do you know any best practices for IRC and Ubuntu/Ubuntu core which lets users to get access to the vms or dedicated servers for message storage and operating computing ? [09:45] I'm about to make something [09:46] With Ubuntu Core I may give a service for IRC private or public cloud, so users can access via ssh etc === iwannaberoot3 is now known as iwannaberoot [10:28] how would i go about creating a minimal riscv bootstrap using apt [10:29] preferably resulting in a uboot, kernel, and a rootfs the kernel would mount as / [10:30] but without building from source and instead downloading via apt riscv arch repo [10:31] as i dont want a full ubuntu riscv live cd\ [10:40] hmm https://github.com/carlosedp/riscv-bringup/blob/master/Ubuntu-Rootfs-Guide.md [10:40] doesnt seem like much options for minifying the debootstrap [11:17] Hi all [11:20] hi [11:55] i tried this but it fails with cannot find preinst script /vat/... [11:55] /var/... * [11:55] rm -rf f ; mkdir -p f/var/lib/dpkg ; rm -rf *.deb ; apt download libc6 ; dpkg --root f --install *.deb [11:56] im expecting it to be equil of apt install libc6 [11:56] as if from chroot f [12:17] dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute new libc6:arm64 package pre-installation script (/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst): No such file or directory [12:28] Greetings! [12:30] How would you make an archive which represents the directory structure, including (sub-)directories, files, links, special devices, but without any data in them? So, in the result, the archive would only represent the current file-system structure of a chosen directory (on a single file-system). [12:50] my ubuntu box froze up after suspending, was forced to hard-reset it, and now it won't boot. If I boot normally, it says that docker fails to load, and it gets stuck in the boot sequence, and if I enter the recovery mode I get dropped into an initramfs prompt with a message "Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found" [12:50] not sure what to do [13:02] lacrymology: sounds like a corrupt filesystem or bad storage device [13:02] step #1 make sure you have backups [13:02] step #2 make sure you have backups [13:02] step #3 make sure you have backups [13:02] step #4 boot with a live usb and run fsck on the filesystems [13:03] lacrymology, if it's HDD, I would rather execute a bad-block scan. E.g. Victoria. [13:04] e.g. https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/victoria_for_dos.html [13:05] there's no point [13:05] either fsck fixes the corruption or the drive is bad and needs to be destroyed. There's no recovering from bad blocks. That's only meant to prolong the inevitable [13:06] a SMART test can be run from the live usb === seanh__ is now known as seanh === seanh__ is now known as seanh [13:27] hii [13:36] or londo\ [13:38] or bosrk [13:38] ky be bc [13:38] tu mc [13:38] itna maruga sadak pe hagta firega [13:38] chal na mc [13:40] !english [13:40] The main Ubuntu IRC channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [13:41] why is irc still relevant in 2024 [13:41] It's a genuine question. [13:42] as you see, there is still ubuntu support on IRC [13:42] tons of FOSS channels here on #libera [13:45] Guest24, from one viewpoint, some IRCd (including Libera's Solanum) has issues like lack of actual profiles, trust of users due to lack of bans via phone/payments, yet from another point, it's a straightforward protocol you can handle with a cURL and script. [13:46] See https://ubuntu.com/community/support . We also are on Matrix if you want to try another platform. [14:32] Guest24: simple protocol, lightweight, super accessible. [14:55] hi, I need help with my ubuntu 24.20, I am trying to install `libsoup-3.0-dev` but I am getting this error, I don't know what is going on? https://dpaste.org/MaDUr#L1 [15:01] masber: have you tried sudo apt --fix-broken install? [15:01] no, because is contains the `install` word in it and I am scared of installed anything else [15:01] !info libsoup-3.0-dev [15:01] libsoup-3.0-dev (3.4.4-5build2, noble): HTTP library implementation in C -- Development files. In component universe, is optional. Built by libsoup3. Size 103 kB / 1,087 kB [15:02] what is `fix-broken install` doing? [15:02] is it going to clean or try to force and install things? [15:02] it will try to install those dependencies that package needs [15:02] masber: what's the output of: apt-cache policy libsoup-3.0-dev [15:02] I want to clean [15:03] https://dpaste.org/eYn0o/raw [15:03] masber: you could try picking a different mirror [15:04] I tried to install git-butler and apparently it has a dependency ubuntu 24.10 does not provides, developers recommended using the nightly build with I tried but now it seems git-butler is still in the system and I wan to remove it [15:04] masber: oh, how did you install that? [15:04] so now I have a mess and would like to clean and start again [15:05] I downloaded the deb package they provide in their github repo [15:05] then installed using app center [15:05] which did not work [15:05] then I run dpkg -i [15:05] and I saw the error with the dependency there [15:05] then tried to uninstall and dpkg says it is not installed.. [15:06] they I tried to install nightly binary which also failed [15:07] yep, sounds like --fix-broken install would help fix that problem. You normally get that error when you install a .deb package that did not have its dependencies installed in the system (even if let us say the package is compatible with the distro) [15:09] masber: run fix-broken, like Your_Dog says, and then you will, in theory, be able to uninstall it [15:14] masber: you may have missed these (due to getting disconnected): [15:14] yep, sounds like --fix-broken install would help fix that problem. You normally get that error when you install a .deb package that did not have its dependencies installed in the system (even if let us say the package is compatible with the distro) [15:14] masber: run fix-broken, like Your_Dog says, and then you will, in theory, be able to uninstall it [15:15] ok, thx! [15:15] I will try fix-broken then === BarnabasDK_ is now known as BarnabasDK [15:36] Do I need emacsen-common on my laptop? [15:37] I tried to remove it, but that breaks ubuntu-desktop and gdm3 [15:43] that would suggest that you need it [15:43] at least if you need the two packages depending on it [15:47] itai, you removed it when you ran 'apt remove emacs*' [15:53] ioria: yes. I want to get rid of anything emacs relates [15:53] *relared [15:55] and you broke libwebkit2gtk and ubuntu-session [15:56] I haven't. I don't know [15:56] how to fix this? [15:57] can I remove emacsen-common? [16:01] sound doesn't work on my laptop so I've connected to a bluetooth speaker, and bluetooth connects but I don't see it as an output option. What can I try? === Juesto is now known as Juest [17:00] is ubuntu studio significaantly different from kubuntu? [17:07] cbreak: Look at the screenshots at https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours and that should give you plenty of information. [17:34] yes, I've seen those before. I've been more wondering about fundamental differences, not just the look. [17:35] I've found some official documentation mentioning that ubuntu studio uses a real time kernel, and JACK instead of alsa, but I think that's kind of outdated info [17:36] cbreak: Outdated by about 14 years. Check ubuntustudio.org for the latest information. === tomaw_ is now known as tomaw [19:06] I installed a new 10G network card in my box, and am experiencing network issues with the card: https://dpaste.org/upE9t - I got this card - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0077CS9UM - my mb has an ethernet port which already does not work well with ubuntu (asrock taichi lite 870e) - any ideas on how to debug this network card issue? [19:07] it shoudlnt be going up and down like that [19:07] bad hardware and/or bad cable and/or bad thing its connected to [19:10] trying new cable and new port on the switch [19:11] @rbox I think the cable or the slot was the issue - not sure yet. Will need more checks. === EriC^^ is now known as Guest5700 === juan is now known as Guest3594 [19:18] pppp [19:26] https://quakeone.com/forum/quake-talk/quake-central/284400-project-to-add-more-map-formats-to-quake [19:27] casualuse, why spamming multiple channels with that? [19:27] oerheks: to find fellow C programmers [19:27] they're out there... somewhere [19:27] not here, just ubuntu support [19:28] some of you know C [19:28] !alis [19:28] Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see «/msg Alis help list» or ask in #libera - Example usage: «/msg Alis list http» [19:28] and even if you just know perl: you'll learn C just by hacking on this engine [19:43] Why should it be so complicated creating a damn .desktop file using the UI only [20:03] what is the best nvidia driver i can use [20:04] i just switched driver and my moust wasnt lagged now its move is so smooth [20:06] spinningCat: what? [20:07] well i switched my nvidia driver [20:07] in pervious driver my moust cursor movement was not smooth [20:07] it stucked time to time [20:07] now it is really smooth [20:07] so it should be driver issue [20:08] so why isn't that one the best you can use? [20:09] i dont know i am just asking it can be best [20:10] you did not give any useful information. Ubuntu release. GPU. the driver version you used before. the new driver version. how did you install that new driver? [20:10] Whatever is working well for you is best for you. [20:11] So if you think this one you're using now has really smooth mouse movement, and everything else also works well, then it is the best for you. [21:15] Hello, on 2 different computer with 24.10, I can't seem to run the memtest86+ from the grub menu. It immediately returns to the menu. I remember it working when they were on 24.04. How can I diagnose why this is happening ? [21:15] maybe one is UEFI, that needs a special memtest? [21:16] https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm [21:16] they are both uefi, but that was the case when they were on 24.04 and it worked [21:16] oke, no idea then [21:17] is there anywhere where grub would log errors? [21:21] nope [21:28] is there any way to get gtk-sharp2 on noble? [21:28] if you want a pacakge thats not in the repos, then you nee dto compile it [21:33] yeah, but i'm wondering if it conflicts with the current mono packages or not before i do so [21:36] huh? [21:38] is that unclear? [21:38] how to tell .. try build the 22.04 package source? [21:40] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/amd64/gtk-sharp2 [21:41] i'll probably need to fix parts, since it's for an earlier version of mono [21:41] but a starting point i guess, i was hoping someone had done it :-) [21:47] HI [21:48] :-) [22:34] causative: purposely or not? [22:35] sybariten, what are you referring to? [22:35] causative: ctrl-r sybariten [22:35] sybariten [22:36] you mean when I said "sybariten, couldn't tell you because I just overwrite it, I believe my bashrc traces its lineage back to a 2006 era macbook"? [22:36] yeah purposely, why would I throw out my old .bashrc? [22:36] there's stuff in there [22:37] causative: yup that's what i meant. Overwrite sounded like an accident [22:37] ooooh wait [22:38] I overwrite the system one with my own [22:38] haha. I actually read "overwrote". I thought it was a specific incident that you mentioned [22:39] Aiight. Anywho i'm gonna repeat my question from yesterday, should there be some eager new listeners here [22:39] Do you guys think the ubuntu bashrc is fairly consistent over years and versions and releases - or does it change a lot? [22:41] what does that even mean [22:41] you've been saying the same thing oever and oever [22:41] you can look at https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/bash [22:53] rbox: over and over as in... twice? [22:54] cbreak: you mean as in looking at the file under skel/ ? === docmax is now known as Guest5379 [23:05] or the changelog [23:18] OK [23:34] there is lots of nvidia drivers in adittional hardware [23:35] why there is many driver options [23:39] so that both older and newer hardware can be supported (to a degree) [23:39] some of those driver series work better with newer and others better with older hardware [23:44] i am using this https://ibb.co/CPv9bnJ [23:46] !nvidia | spinningCat [23:46] spinningCat: Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers [23:48] spinningCat: the driver series link should have information on which driver series nvidia recommends for your hardware [23:48] is there a terminal app that lets you "save" commands so you can click a button and have the same command appear on the command prompt waiting for you to edit and press enter? [23:48] save the commands in some graphically-browseable way [23:48] spinningCat: click on the deriver series number and then the "supported products" tab [23:49] spinningCat: but don't download and install from there, keep using the packages ubuntu provides [23:49] so like... if I find myself often using a certain rsync command, I'd like to save that command to some sort of visual menu system so I don't have to retype and check for typos every time [23:50] make an alias [23:50] causative: it's not visual, but you can use aliases in bash [23:50] alias mycoolrsync='rsync whatever' [23:50] my memory is bad, I would rather have a list I can conveniently browse [23:51] cat ~/.myaliases [23:51] causative, you have history command [23:51] so history | grep rsync can give you something [23:52] you can use gedit to save them in ~/.bash_aliases - as well as to view them later. [23:52] maybe there's an external program that lets you save and organize little snippets of text and paste them in with a click? [23:53] a hierarchical organization scheme would be helpful so I pick a category and then there are some commands I used before related to that category [23:53] that's entirely possible (but i don't know it). maybe there is a suitable gnome-shell-extension for such [23:56] maybe it would be better to have a command line program with ncurses that would take me to a menu system where I would select the command I want, then it would send that command back to bash where I can edit or press enter [23:57] that way I wouldn't have to be in a gui to use it and could more easily copy it between systems