| causative | this looks perfect for that https://pypi.org/project/simple-term-menu/ | 00:06 |
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| casualuse | https://quakeone.com/forum/quake-talk/quake-central/284400-project-to-add-more-map-formats-to-quake | 04:53 |
| casualuse | https://quakeone.com/forum/quake-talk/quake-central/284392-dear-russians-banned-from-linux-plz-help-chaosesque-instead | 06:28 |
| casualuse | https://quakeone.com/forum/quake-talk/quake-central/284400-project-to-add-more-map-formats-to-quake | 06:29 |
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| oerheks | casualuse, you were asked to stop spamming, again in multiple channels? | 07:37 |
| oerheks | !ops | 07:37 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 07:37 |
| Disconsented | Let #libera-hotline know in the future | 07:43 |
| EvenOA | Hi, My docking station connected monitors goes to standby | 10:49 |
| EvenOA | $uname -r -r -> 6.8.0-48-generic | 10:49 |
| EvenOA | ./devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0/drm/card0/card0-HDMI-A-1/edid | 10:49 |
| EvenOA | ./devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0/drm/card0/card0-DP-2/edid | 10:49 |
| EvenOA | ./devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0/drm/card0/card0-DP-1/edid | 10:49 |
| EvenOA | ./devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card1/card1-eDP-1/edid | 10:49 |
| EvenOA | Hi, my docking station connected monitors does not show up in lspci. Would like to know why | 10:54 |
| EvenOA | https://bpa.st/TO44E | 10:54 |
| EvenOA | The edids are empty BTW | 10:55 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:11 |
| Daino | hi. why is so difficult mounting an exeternal hhd connected via usb to a router? can someone help a newbie to solve it? | 12:26 |
| Your_Dog | Daino: I'm not so sure how this is connected to Ubuntu but what seems to be the problem? Are you trying to mount the hdd to the router or are you trying to connect your network fileshare to Ubuntu? | 12:33 |
| Daino | i connected an external hdd via usb to my router. Now i have to read it from a pc with ubuntu. I can't | 12:34 |
| Daino | is it correct that now i can see hdd from firefox just typing 192.168.1.1? | 12:35 |
| Your_Dog | well yeah, what the router is doing is essentially a fileshare and most routers i know of these days allows you to access your files from the router's admin panel | 12:36 |
| Daino | so it doesn't work. i cant see hdd from firefox, and i cant see hdd from "files" of the wifi pc | 12:37 |
| Your_Dog | Daino: ok, try this: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/how-to-mount-cifs-shares-permanently | 12:40 |
| Daino | ok i try. But dont you think that i have to understand why i cant see hdd from firefox, before try to find a permanent solution? | 12:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | which router? | 12:46 |
| Daino | wind3. i think si a zyxel, but i am pretty sure that the problem is me, not the router | 12:48 |
| Daino | the router tells me that the share path is "/mnt/usb1_1/FOTO". Does it means that i have to poin to 192.168.1.1/mnt/usb1_1/FOTO? | 12:54 |
| Daino | Or maybe //192.168.1.1/mnt/usb1_1/FOTO? | 12:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | the ip will be necessary as it's the router mounting the device and it's connected via network. It's not mounted by the computer unless you physical plug it into the computer. | 12:57 |
| Daino | i don't understand. i dont want to plugin it into the pc. i plugged in it into the router | 12:58 |
| sixwheeledbeast | does the zyxel unit mention how its shared. like the type. Is it a smb share for example? | 12:58 |
| Daino | is not written | 12:59 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | so if you open the routers web interface and look at this USB section, you can't see your files? | 12:59 |
| Daino | is just called file sharing service | 12:59 |
| Daino | yes, i mean, from there i choosed the FOTO folder | 13:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | and you can see the files? | 13:04 |
| Daino | i can see the folder. i don't think that from the web interface is possible browse files, i think is possible just to choose which folder to share | 13:05 |
| Guest89 | hello :D | 13:13 |
| Guest89 | I am on Arch | 13:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I would expect you should be able to browse files in the web GUI too. The drive usually needs to be FAT to be read. In firefox I would expect "smb://192.168.1.1/mnt/usb1_1/FOTO" to take you there then? | 13:14 |
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| Daino | firefox tells me that i need a program to open it. opera give me a search on ineternet | 13:25 |
| proxima | vorp | 13:27 |
| Daino | maybe i dont have the correct smb installed? | 13:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | do you have cifs-utils? | 13:30 |
| Daino | i think yes. how to ensure? | 13:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | "apt search cifs-utils" shows the cifs/samba packages | 13:32 |
| Daino | installed | 13:33 |
| Daino | ifs-utils/noble,now 2:7.0-2build1 amd64 [installato] | 13:33 |
| Daino | utilità per Common Internet File System | 13:33 |
| Daino | samba/noble 2:4.19.5+dfsg-4ubuntu9 amd64 | 13:33 |
| Daino | server SMB/CIFS di file, stampa e login per Unix | 13:33 |
| Daino | smbclient/noble,now 2:4.19.5+dfsg-4ubuntu9 amd64 [installato] | 13:33 |
| Daino | command-line SMB/CIFS clients for Unix | 13:33 |
| pycurious | Any ideas how to fix these dmesg errors: https://hastebin.skyra.pw/zasidisabe.pgsql | 14:25 |
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| connstruct | pycurious: Are you having any functional issues, or are they just messages? | 17:21 |
| boscut | test | 17:33 |
| pycurious | @connstruct just messages - https://hastebin.skyra.pw/kidojacuvi.pgsql | 17:51 |
| connstruct | Then don't worry about them. | 17:52 |
| connstruct | If they're not affecting the system's functionality, it's best not to worry about it. | 17:52 |
| spinningCat | what is that problem The package 'update-manager-core' is marked for removal but it is in | 18:35 |
| spinningCat | the removal deny list. | 18:35 |
| oerheks | maybe an old version 0kb ? | 18:36 |
| spinningCat | 0kb? | 18:37 |
| oerheks | like old unused kernels | 18:37 |
| spinningCat | is it old? 6.8.0-48-generic | 18:38 |
| oerheks | no | 18:39 |
| spinningCat | why it is deny list? | 18:40 |
| spinningCat | i dont know why it exist | 18:40 |
| tomreyn | you're going to have some incompatible or outdated packages (or package versions) installed which are causing the apt resolver to consider removal of such a package | 18:42 |
| tomreyn | the removal deny list is a list of strictly required packages which you don't want to remove (during a release upgrade) under any circumstances | 18:42 |
| spinningCat | i did aptitude dist-upgrade i got 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 18:43 |
| spinningCat | tomreyn, i understand but i dont understand why it breaks the upgrade operation | 18:43 |
| tomreyn | you get what your apt sources offer to you, and what's compatible to what you already have. which apt sources do you have? | 18:44 |
| tomreyn | and install and run apt-forktracer | 18:44 |
| tomreyn | (after cleaning up your apt sources, or at least disabling incompatible ones) | 18:44 |
| spinningCat | is apt-forktracer command? | 18:45 |
| tomreyn | is question? | 18:45 |
| spinningCat | ah | 18:45 |
| spinningCat | sorry | 18:45 |
| spinningCat | https://dpaste.com/ABUNNQQ2D | 18:46 |
| spinningCat | anything wrong here? | 18:47 |
| tomreyn | none of these installed packages are from your currently configured apt sources | 18:47 |
| spinningCat | should i remove those packages? | 18:48 |
| tomreyn | hard to tell for me. i don't know which ubuntu version you're running there and which apt sources you have configured. | 18:49 |
| tomreyn | !info libssl1.1 | 18:50 |
| ubottu | Package libssl1.1 does not exist in noble | 18:50 |
| tomreyn | !search libssl1.1 | 18:50 |
| ubottu | No matches found | 18:50 |
| spinningCat | 22.04 | 18:50 |
| tomreyn | !info libssl1.1 jammy | 18:51 |
| spinningCat | it seems i should install ubuntu 24.04 as fresh install | 18:51 |
| ubottu | Package libssl1.1 does not exist in jammy | 18:51 |
| tomreyn | 20.04 had libssl1.1 | 18:51 |
| tomreyn | but not this outdated version | 18:52 |
| spinningCat | so those outdated packages avoid upgrade? | 18:53 |
| tomreyn | you're seeing the mess you can get yourself into by manually installing .deb packages, or installing packages from third party repositories, then disabling those repositories but keeping their packages installed | 18:53 |
| spinningCat | i didnt install anything manually | 18:54 |
| spinningCat | i used snap | 18:54 |
| spinningCat | snap shouldnt cause a break | 18:54 |
| tomreyn | such packages can introduce dependencies which prevent the apt resolver from letting you have security fixes and bug fixes | 18:54 |
| spinningCat | i really didnt install anything manually | 18:55 |
| tomreyn | well, some of these packages have no current apt source configured | 18:55 |
| tomreyn | that alone is an issue | 18:55 |
| spinningCat | i am using snap sometimes | 18:55 |
| spinningCat | snap dont use apt sources right | 18:55 |
| tomreyn | noe of these are snaps, so that's not relevant here. snaps don't introduce dependencies in apt | 18:56 |
| tomreyn | *none | 18:56 |
| spinningCat | understood | 18:56 |
| tomreyn | those lines with [ ... ] are from a third party apt repository which is still configured. this *can* be fine as long as you'Re ensuring this apt source is both trustable (they got root on your system effectively) *and* these packages are fully compatible to your ubuntu release (do not introduce dependencies which hold back security and bugfix updates to your normal ubuntu packages) | 18:58 |
| tomreyn | the latter, as you can tell, is more difficult to verify. hopefully the former is. | 18:58 |
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| Bardon | Hello, `sudo ubuntu-drivers list` is empty whereas `lspci` says "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 640M LE] (rev a1)". How can I install the correct driver? | 22:09 |
| Bardon | Maybe the drivers available in the repos are too new and don't support my old GPU? | 22:09 |
| oerheks | i use the 470 driver from ubuntu-drivers for my GK107 [GeForce GTX 650] | 22:11 |
| oerheks | did you run updates properly? | 22:11 |
| TooManyHats96 | you could just go directly to nvidia | 22:11 |
| oerheks | TooManyHats96, no | 22:12 |
| oerheks | not supported here | 22:12 |
| TooManyHats96 | hmm? | 22:12 |
| oerheks | just run sudo apt install nvidia-driver-470 | 22:12 |
| oerheks | hmm? | 22:12 |
| TooManyHats96 | why not? | 22:12 |
| oerheks | because we don't. only the package tested and published in our repos | 22:13 |
| oerheks | weird driver does not show up, sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall should pick it automaticly | 22:13 |
| Bardon | oerheks: I believe I ran updates properly yes. I did do-release-upgrade to upgrade to 24.10, and I regularly do apt update apt upgrade | 22:14 |
| Bardon | oerheks: There is no 470, I see only 530, 535, 550 and 560 | 22:15 |
| Bardon | nvidia-driver-*-open is nouveau? | 22:16 |
| oerheks | oh, 24.10 does not have 470 i see | 22:16 |
| alguien | Hi, I've noticed that when I Alt+Tab to a Firefox window if there is another one open, when I attempt to Alt+Tab back, I'll end up on the other Firefox window. I reckon that's because they're the same "group", so when I Alt+Tab to a Firefox window, not only does the head of the list change to that window, the next window after the head becomes the other Firefox window (Alt+Tab switches between the head and the second-after-head). I realized I could | 22:16 |
| alguien | disable this behavior by turning off Settings -> Ubuntu Desktop -> Enhanced Tiling -> Tile Groups, but if I do that then tiling windows using Alt + Right Arrow / Left Arrow stops offering a window to show in the opposite tile. How do I disable grouping but not the dialog that offers me to choose the other window when tiling one? | 22:16 |
| oerheks | does 530 not work for you? | 22:16 |
| Bardon | oerheks: I haven't tried | 22:16 |
| Bardon | I'll try to look if GK107M is supported by that version | 22:17 |
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| oerheks | 530 is actually 535 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oracular/amd64/nvidia-driver-530/535.183.01-0ubuntu3 | 22:17 |
| alguien | Man, I barely understand myself. Let me know if I should clarify anything :/ | 22:18 |
| Bardon | Ah ok | 22:18 |
| Bardon | Is there a way to check if my GPU is supported by 535? I suspect it isn't since ubuntu-driver doesn't offer it | 22:18 |
| oerheks | supported https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/210649/en-us/ | 22:19 |
| oerheks | errr not | 22:19 |
| oerheks | 745 is the lowest.. new to me | 22:19 |
| alguien | Basically trying to switch back and forth between a certain Firefox window and another app fails, because firefox windows get grouped together, and as soon as you switch to one Firefox tab, the priority shifts to switching between that and the other Firefox window. | 22:19 |
| oerheks | so, openradeon it is | 22:20 |
| alguien | *one firefox window | 22:20 |
| Bardon | oerheks: What's openradeon? Isn't that AMD only? | 22:21 |
| oerheks | it is the driver you have now, standard | 22:21 |
| oerheks | lshw -c video | 22:21 |
| oerheks | lspci -nn | grep -E 'VGA|Display' | 22:21 |
| Bardon | "configuration : driver=nouveau latency=0" | 22:22 |
| oerheks | jups | 22:22 |
| oerheks | be happy, or roll back to 22.04 | 22:23 |
| oerheks | 5y support | 22:23 |
| Bardon | It appears I need 470 | 22:24 |
| oerheks | yes, like i have | 22:24 |
| Bardon | Can I get 470 on 24.10? It should be possible | 22:24 |
| oerheks | no, kernel does not accept it | 22:25 |
| oerheks | some functions are directed to nouveau | 22:25 |
| Bardon | Ok :( | 22:25 |
| oerheks | yes, i hesitate to upgrade too, now | 22:26 |
| Bardon | I was trying to get the driver because I'm trying to play a game that says my GPU doesn't support OpenGL 4.3 | 22:26 |
| oerheks | openradeon and mesa .. | 22:27 |
| Bardon | I'm not familiar with that | 22:28 |
| Bardon | What do you mean? | 22:28 |
| oerheks | if you want that game, install in KVM/virt-manager | 22:28 |
| oerheks | 22.04 that is | 22:28 |
| oerheks | or better bare metal, you have some years support | 22:29 |
| Bardon | Too bad that my hardware is loosing capabilities with time :( | 22:30 |
| tomreyn | oerheks: my understanding is that "radeon" refers exclusively to amd/ati, never nvidia hardware, and that nouveau is an different driver (though both would use mesa/dri) | 22:31 |
| oerheks | sorry, yes you are right, nouveau | 22:31 |
| oerheks | i typed too fast | 22:31 |
| oerheks | sad 470 is out of the game | 22:32 |
| tomreyn | maybe the ubuntu-drivers ppa still offers 470 for 24.10? | 22:32 |
| tomreyn | https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers | 22:32 |
| oerheks | 550 | 22:33 |
| tomreyn | generally, support for the older nvidia chipsets is going away, though, since nvidia stopped it, and their 'open drivers' only support current generations | 22:33 |
| oerheks | also the lowest is 745 | 22:33 |
| Bardon | I see 470 is supported on 24.04 | 22:33 |
| Bardon | so I'll use that | 22:33 |
| oerheks | ah | 22:34 |
| Bardon | Too bad, I just upgraded to 24.10 :( | 22:34 |
| oerheks | reinstall, 15 minutes | 22:34 |
| Bardon | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 | 22:34 |
| Bardon | Yeah but backing up, and restoring all configs is more that 15 minutes | 22:34 |
| tomreyn | !info nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 24.04 | 22:34 |
| ubottu | '24.04' is not a valid release | 22:34 |
| tomreyn | !info nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 noble | 22:35 |
| ubottu | Package nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 does not exist in noble | 22:35 |
| Bardon | Hmm | 22:35 |
| tomreyn | maybe the binary package is named differently | 22:35 |
| Bardon | Did I missunderstand what my link says? | 22:35 |
| Bardon | It's there https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/noble/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 | 22:36 |
| tomreyn | !info nvidia-driver-470 noble | 22:36 |
| ubottu | nvidia-driver-470 (470.256.02-0ubuntu0.24.04.1, noble): NVIDIA driver metapackage. In component restricted, is optional. Built by nvidia-graphics-drivers-470. Size 442 kB / 1,539 kB. (Only available for amd64.) | 22:36 |
| oerheks | go for it | 22:36 |
| tomreyn | yes, unless you want to "fall back" to nouveau, installing 24.04 is probably your best option for now. | 22:37 |
| Bardon | There might be a solution (last comment) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470/+bug/2080624 | 22:37 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2080624 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-470-server (Ubuntu) "Remove from oracular, EOL upstream" [Undecided, Fix Released] | 22:37 | |
| oerheks | oh, GCC 14, not the kernel causing issues | 22:38 |
| Bardon | For real, I've had nothing but issues with Nvidia | 22:38 |
| oerheks | i ran ati 5450 for years.. | 22:40 |
| Bardon | I'm not sure what this bug mean. Will 470 be included in 24.10 at some point? | 22:40 |
| Bardon | Or do I need to compile it myself with that patch in the comments? | 22:41 |
| oerheks | no, that post is just a hack | 22:41 |
| tomreyn | it looks like ubuntu will try to continue supporting the 470 series driver for the lifetime of 24.04, but not any release after that | 22:42 |
| Daino | hi i have some news about connecting ubuntu pc to an usb hdd connected to the router | 22:44 |
| Daino | i can connect to the usb hddwith my android cell, but only with smb1 protocol | 22:45 |
| Daino | is there a way to know what version of smb is in my pc, just to see if the problem is the smb version? | 22:46 |
| leftyfb | Daino: https://www.ncomp.co.za/index.php/about-us/niel-blog/36-how-to-enable-smbv1-in-ubuntu-20-04-so-i-can-browse-my-old-nas | 22:46 |
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| Bardon | oerheks: tomreyn Ok :( thanks for your help | 22:50 |
| Guest37 | Hi | 22:50 |
| Bardon | Downgrading from 24.10 to 24.04 is not an option I suppose? | 22:51 |
| tomreyn | Bardon: no, downgrades aren't supported for packages, and surely not between releases. | 22:52 |
| Bardon | tomreyn: Ok then, reinstall :( | 22:52 |
| Bardon | Thanks | 22:52 |
| tomreyn | the choice that led to this situation is both nvidias, effectively deciding you should be buying new hardware, i guess, and yours back when you bought it, possibly knowing that only proprietary drivers were available, which effectively rules out more than very basic open source based driver support after the closed source ones are no longer provided. | 22:54 |
| Daino | maybe somethin happen, thank you. Now "files" ask me login, before it wont happen | 22:54 |
| Daino | but i still have an error | 22:54 |
| Daino | i try a restart | 22:56 |
| tomreyn | Daino: SMBv1 has serious, unfixable vulnerabilities, which is probably part of why ubuntu no longer supports it in current releases. | 22:56 |
| tomreyn | you should probably try to use something else if you can | 22:57 |
| Daino | so the only way is not to share this usb hdd connecting it to the router? | 22:58 |
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| tomreyn | i do not know which options you have available, so can't comment. | 22:58 |
| leftyfb | Daino: or see if there's a setting or firmware for said route that will let you enable a safer protocol for sharing | 22:58 |
| tomreyn | if you have a recent enough router, it may support something never | 22:58 |
| leftyfb | router* | 22:59 |
| Daino | i'm afraid is the router recommended from the internet provider. The only way is to buy another one... | 23:01 |
| leftyfb | Daino: so you don't have access to configure the router? | 23:02 |
| Daino | i have, but the menu is very minimal | 23:03 |
| Daino | https://www.windtre.it/Document/modem/Manuale%20WINDTRE%20HUB.pdf | 23:04 |
| Daino | chapter 13 | 23:04 |
| tomreyn | it doesn't look that minimal, unless maybe you're locked out of it, have only limited access. there is a firmware update option in the "maintenance" menu. | 23:12 |
| tomreyn | but this is all outside the scope of ubuntu support really | 23:13 |
| Daino | i don't know even if i want to try to upgrade firmware, on internet is written that there is only one firmware optimized for my internet provider.Chapter 13 looks minimal for me | 23:14 |
| tomreyn | right, they provide no documentation for that. | 23:16 |
| Daino | ok no problem. Thank you for all. I will not share that hdd | 23:17 |
| tomreyn | well, you could connect it to your ubuntu computer and share it from there | 23:17 |
| tomreyn | or any other computer/device which supports current network protocols, i guess | 23:18 |
| Daino | Is not simple, is a notebook... | 23:18 |
| Daino | Listen, laast year i shared this hdd via nvidia shield, i made a mistake and i have lost 80% of data, now i would like to share it via router, but i can't see it from notebook. Maybe the best way is connecting it to the notebook via usb just when i need it | 23:20 |
| tomreyn | that's an option. or you could get or build a current NAS, or you could store it on someone elses' computer (in the cloud). | 23:23 |
| leftyfb | Daino: get a Raspberry Pi Zero W to share the usb drive on your network | 23:23 |
| Daino | I will think about it. But i am a newbie, i need a proget from a to z | 23:24 |
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