| znf | what's needed on Ubuntu 22.04 to get an Intel ARC GPU working? | 00:14 |
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| znf | I'm on 6.8 (-hwe) kernel already | 00:14 |
| znf | intel_gpu_top seems to report there's a GPU, but it doesn't show the name, it only shows the PCI ID | 00:14 |
| patdk-lap | all I did to make it work | 00:26 |
| patdk-lap | but to make it *stable*, that has been impossible | 00:26 |
| znf | I feel you left out a key point of what you did! | 00:30 |
| patdk-lap | hmm | 00:30 |
| patdk-lap | nope | 00:30 |
| patdk-lap | I installed the intel gpu stuff | 00:30 |
| patdk-lap | then when 6.5? or was it 6.8, I uninstalled all that to use the kernel built in driver | 00:31 |
| patdk-lap | hmm, I still have the intel libdrm-intel1 and xserver-xorg-video-intel stuff install though | 00:32 |
| patdk-lap | but that is for desktop, not server | 00:32 |
| znf | patdk-lap, sorry, was away -- which "intel gpu stuff"? :) | 01:51 |
| patdk-lap | hmm? | 01:53 |
| patdk-lap | I listed them above | 01:53 |
| patdk-lap | directly from intels gpu webpage | 01:53 |
| patdk-lap | https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/747008/intel-arc-graphics-driver-ubuntu.html | 01:53 |
| znf | That just tells you to go to https://dgpu-docs.intel.com/driver/client/overview.html | 02:09 |
| patdk-lap | yes | 02:09 |
| patdk-lap | not sure what you want | 02:10 |
| patdk-lap | if your going install hardware, you should consult the manual for that hardware | 02:10 |
| znf | tl;dr: stuff seems to work, but `intel_gpu_top` doesn't even report the GPU name | 02:13 |
| znf | all I'm getting is | 02:13 |
| znf | intel-gpu-top: 8086:56a5 @ /dev/dri/card1 - 0/ 0 MHz; 100% RC6; 0 irqs/s | 02:13 |
| znf | I'm assuming there should be some newer tools/packages/driver/something that can actually show me the correct GPU name, amongst others | 02:14 |
| patdk-lap | hmm, the name it will only report is the pci id | 02:15 |
| patdk-lap | maybe ask intel to add a name mapping table to intel-gpu-top? | 02:15 |
| patdk-lap | well, if you read the page I posted it tell you how | 02:16 |
| patdk-lap | clinfo | grep "Device Name" | 02:16 |
| patdk-lap | Device Name Intel(R) Arc(TM) A580 Graphics | 02:16 |
| znf | I know the clinfo tool reports it | 02:16 |
| patdk-lap | well, intel-gpu-top doesn't support that | 02:17 |
| znf | it *did* on a 12th Gen iGPU when I last used it | 02:17 |
| znf | for example: intel-gpu-top: Intel Alderlake_s (Gen12) @ /dev/dri/card0 - 0/ 0 MHz; 100% RC6; 0.00/20.69 W; 0 irqs/s | 02:18 |
| patdk-lap | that is really old | 02:18 |
| znf | I'm kinda bummed out that neither nvtop and neither intel_gpu_top report the actual vram used by my ffmpeg processes | 02:19 |
| patdk-lap | no, you have to use the nv smi tool to see memory usage | 02:22 |
| patdk-lap | always been a limit for me, constantly running out of gpu memory | 02:22 |
| patdk-lap | xpu-smi stats works | 02:26 |
| znf | weird, my system froze while transcoding | 02:33 |
| znf | no kernel dump, no nothing | 02:33 |
| patdk-lap | ya, that kept happening to me, after 2 transcodes | 02:33 |
| patdk-lap | so I stopped using that | 02:33 |
| patdk-lap | as I said, intel arc wasn't very stable for me at all | 02:33 |
| znf | I've seen that *before* on a different system (the one with 12th Gen), and I blamed it on the crappy iGPU | 02:33 |
| patdk-lap | never used the built in cpu gpu, only the arc cards | 02:34 |
| znf | didn't think ARC would suffer from the same issue | 02:34 |
| patdk-lap | built in gpu with 4 4k monitors is never very happy | 02:34 |
| znf | thank f* I have Intel AMT on that device, and I was able to hit a reset, because my BliKVM is not connected to the ATX pins | 02:35 |
| patdk-lap | this workstation has ipmi :) | 02:35 |
| znf | this one doesn't :( | 02:35 |
| znf | it's an old ThinkStation 510 (P510?) | 02:35 |
| znf | yeah, P510 | 02:36 |
| znf | glad to know I'm not the only one seeing random freezes | 02:37 |
| znf | lol, crashed again | 02:37 |
| patdk-lap | ya, using ffmpeg transcodes, it always happened | 02:38 |
| patdk-lap | without that, just normal desktop usage, screensaver would cause it to happen | 02:38 |
| patdk-lap | I would get artifacts on screen, things would act odd, after a day or two | 02:38 |
| patdk-lap | then a few more days later, the gpu would lockup | 02:38 |
| patdk-lap | can still ssh in and do stuff, but video was no good | 02:39 |
| patdk-lap | less screensaver activations, the longer it would last, it seems | 02:39 |
| znf | well, this is wild | 02:41 |
| znf | I was hoping to replace the small 1050 Ti I have in there | 02:41 |
| znf | with the ARC, which has more VRAM and a more modern encoder, I'd assume | 02:41 |
| patdk-lap | vram isn't really an issue for ffmpeg | 02:42 |
| patdk-lap | it will never exceed 2gigs | 02:42 |
| znf | I do | 02:42 |
| patdk-lap | odd, a310 works well in windows using ffmpeg | 02:43 |
| znf | I run about ~15 concurrent transcodes, so it eats it up | 02:43 |
| patdk-lap | been really happy with the cards on windows machines | 02:43 |
| patdk-lap | hmm, the arc only supports 2 streams | 02:44 |
| znf | uhm, why would it support only 2 streams? as far as I know it shouldn't be limited to anything...? | 02:44 |
| patdk-lap | there are only two video encode/decode chips | 02:45 |
| patdk-lap | same deal on nvidia cards | 02:45 |
| znf | that's not the issue, I'm not running the encoder/decoder at full speed, you can initiate much more many sessions | 02:46 |
| znf | https://123.456.ro/share/2024/11/kitty-0.76.1.13_Hj5wr3dCTh.png | 02:46 |
| znf | Tesla P4 | 02:46 |
| znf | GTX 1070: https://123.456.ro/share/2024/11/kitty-0.76.1.13_Whd4E8XrXD.png | 02:48 |
| znf | etc. | 02:48 |
| patdk-lap | dunno, I am just never liked using gpu for video, transcodes sure | 02:49 |
| patdk-lap | but I rarely transcode | 02:49 |
| znf | it's pretty the #1 reason I use GPUs under linux servers :D | 02:51 |
| patdk-lap | ya, I only use it for my desktop, and not liking it, but nvidia has become such a pain | 02:52 |
| patdk-lap | do use nvidia in servers, cause the ai software requires it | 02:52 |
| znf | I don't really use linux much on desktops, but at least on server-side, I had the _least_ troubles with nvidia | 02:54 |
| znf | intel always gives me headaches, amd too | 02:54 |
| patdk-lap | amd drivers are kindof hard, but that got fixed lately when they went into the kernel | 02:55 |
| patdk-lap | but I opted to try intel instead of a more powerful amd card this last time | 02:55 |
| patdk-lap | I dont need a powerful gpu, I just need the vram | 02:55 |
| znf | it's mostly why I also wanted to give ARC a try | 02:56 |
| znf | everything after the GTX 10 series is pretty damn expensive to use just for video transcoding | 02:57 |
| patdk-lap | yep | 02:57 |
| znf | the gtx 1080 is also kinda weird | 02:57 |
| znf | the 1050/1070 have a single nvenc unit | 02:57 |
| znf | the 1080 has 2 | 02:57 |
| patdk-lap | I could use a tesla series, but that wouldnt last much for future use for me :( | 02:57 |
| patdk-lap | pascal is too old to even use :( | 02:58 |
| znf | same ffmpeg command would use about ~20% more VRAM on the 1080 due to the nvenc/nvdec count | 02:58 |
| znf | which is weird as hell | 02:58 |
| znf | I would have loved AV1 encode support that the ARC supports/provides :( | 03:00 |
| znf | We use those Tesla P4's, but they're a bit tricky | 03:00 |
| znf | Due to lower clocks, the encoder gets 100% busy with much less streams than on a 1070 | 03:00 |
| znf | helps a bit to raise the frequency with nvidia-smi (not like yuo can much, it just has 2 settings lol) | 03:01 |
| patdk-lap | my stuff doesn't matter how long it takes, but it has 24gigs of ai data to load :( | 03:01 |
| patdk-lap | and to start doing two ai jobs on the same file now, so that is going be 50gigs of ram needed :( | 03:01 |
| patdk-lap | or have to deal with using two cards | 03:01 |
| znf | now, WTF do I do about this ARC... | 03:02 |
| patdk-lap | my daughter has loved it in windows :) | 03:03 |
| znf | I was like 100% sure it would work just "fine" | 03:03 |
| patdk-lap | the amd I had in her system, failed, and it's worked well | 03:03 |
| znf | ...I could dist-upgrade to ubuntu 24.04, maybe... | 03:03 |
| patdk-lap | it might, but ya, not currently | 03:03 |
| patdk-lap | wonder when intel will release updates for linux | 03:03 |
| patdk-lap | maybe, I havent wanted to deal with that on my desktop yet | 03:04 |
| patdk-lap | so I cannot speak to what it would do with 24.04 | 03:04 |
| patdk-lap | have upgraded many servers, but, well, desktop upgrades are so much more finicky | 03:05 |
| znf | #yolo | 03:05 |
| znf | I have BliKVM, I have Intel AMD, can't break it! | 03:05 |
| patdk-lap | ya, breaking isn't my problem | 03:05 |
| patdk-lap | how long till it works enough nicely, so I can do work, is :) | 03:06 |
| patdk-lap | probably clone my laptop, upgrade it, and see how it goes, then try this system | 03:06 |
| znf | oh, the XPU-stuff is for data-center cards only | 03:48 |
| patdk-lap | hmm? works on my card just fine | 03:48 |
| patdk-lap | xpu-smi stats -d 0 | 03:49 |
| znf | intel-gpu-top: Intel Dg2 (Gen12) @ /dev/dri/card1 - 1613/2455 MHz; 0% RC6; 3945 irqs/s | 03:49 |
| patdk-lap | maybe only works on pcie based cards (arc) | 03:49 |
| patdk-lap | works on my a580 and a310 | 03:49 |
| patdk-lap | neither are datacenter, dont have an a40 yet :( | 03:50 |
| znf | this is from xpumanager, correct? | 03:52 |
| patdk-lap | yes | 03:52 |
| patdk-lap | atleast from the git project | 03:53 |
| znf | https://dgpu-docs.intel.com/installation-guides/index.html | 03:53 |
| znf | >_< | 03:53 |
| patdk-lap | I just did apt-get install xpu-smi | 03:53 |
| znf | let me see, the 24.04 upgrade is done | 03:53 |
| znf | maybe it's in their ppa again | 03:53 |
| znf | nope, it's not in "https://repositories.intel.com/gpu/ubuntu noble client" | 03:54 |
| znf | Are you on 24.10? | 03:55 |
| znf | and using kobuk-team/intel-graphics-testing ? | 03:55 |
| patdk-lap | 22.04 | 03:55 |
| patdk-lap | no | 03:55 |
| patdk-lap | https://repositories.intel.com/gpu/ubuntu jammy client | 03:56 |
| znf | you sure? what does apt show xpu-smi show ? | 03:56 |
| patdk-lap | hmm, that command doesn't say | 03:58 |
| znf | should say repo? | 03:58 |
| patdk-lap | nope | 03:58 |
| znf | ie: APT-Sources | 03:58 |
| znf | ...how | 03:59 |
| patdk-lap | APT-Sources: https://repositories.intel.com/gpu/ubuntu jammy/client amd64 Packages | 03:59 |
| patdk-lap | like I said | 03:59 |
| znf | wtf | 03:59 |
| znf | ...shit crashed again | 03:59 |
| znf | worked for about ~15 minutes with 14 transcodes | 04:00 |
| znf | and crashed again https://123.456.ro/share/2024/11/kitty-0.76.1.13_TN72mR22Wx.png | 05:00 |
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