| PattiCake | hi | 00:56 |
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| PattiCake | :) | 00:57 |
| PattiCake | :( | 00:57 |
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| CodeSpelunker | Hello | 05:14 |
| CodeSpelunker | Having some trouble booting into Ubuntu haha | 05:14 |
| CodeSpelunker | It reaches the splash screen, but very quickly my display loses signal | 05:15 |
| jStefan | are you using multiple monitors ? | 05:21 |
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| osse | What determines whether to group two windows into one icon in the sidebar? Is it simply the executable? I am manipulating the name and class of new windows but they are still grouped | 07:34 |
| ravage | look up StartupWMClass | 07:39 |
| osse | It sounds like what I'm after but it also has no effect | 07:52 |
| mgedmin | StartupWMClass is only for X11 apps; Wayland has its own app_id protocol | 08:58 |
| mgedmin | https://developer.gnome.org/documentation/tutorials/application-id.html | 08:59 |
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| lamark | Hi | 09:41 |
| osse | I am on X11 | 09:50 |
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| mgedmin | on X11 the _GTK_APPLICATION_OBJECT_PATH window property is the primary one, WM_CLASS is used as a fallback | 10:00 |
| mgedmin | I think | 10:01 |
| mgedmin | oops, _GTK_APPLICATION_ID, not the one I pasted by mistake | 10:01 |
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| nikos_ | hi | 10:52 |
| osse | mgedmin: how can I see the _GTK_APPLICATION_ID ? xprop shows _GTK_EDGE_CONSTRAINTS but that's the only _GKT_* property that's listed | 11:22 |
| osse | `xprop _GTK_APPLICATION_ID` then click (I think), but it says "not found." | 11:25 |
| mgedmin | I see it in xprop; if you do't see it, I guess this is not a GTK app and gnome-shell should be using WM_CLASS to identify the .desktop file | 11:30 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:25 |
| mmx_in_space | hi all. is there a single easy script somewhere to enable laptop discrete graphics card (mine is RTX 2050) instead of integrated (intel UHD graphics)? | 13:52 |
| lotuspsychje | mmx_in_space: nvidia-settings to swap between intel vs nvidia | 13:54 |
| mmx_in_space | lotuspsychje: Still my game apparently is reporting integrated graphics are being used (this game called Quake Live [via Steam/Proton]) | 13:58 |
| lotuspsychje | mmx_in_space: can you !paste the output of; sudo lshw -C video , please | 13:59 |
| mmx_in_space | ok just a minute | 14:00 |
| mmx_in_space | !paste | 14:02 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 14:02 |
| mmx_in_space | lotuspsychje: https://bpa.st/2LUA | 14:04 |
| tomreyn | you can use: __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 steam -applaunch <APPID> | 14:04 |
| lotuspsychje | dont see a driver=... on his nvidia card | 14:05 |
| tomreyn | APPID can be found on the games' store page | 14:05 |
| lotuspsychje | mmx_in_space: can you also paste your; sudo dmesg , please | 14:06 |
| mmx_in_space | ok | 14:06 |
| tomreyn | lspci -knn | grep VGA | nc termbin.com 9999 | 14:06 |
| tomreyn | context for above: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Command_Line_Options#Steam https://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/550.127.05/README/primerenderoffload.html | 14:07 |
| tomreyn | also https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PRIME#PRIME_GPU_offloading | 14:08 |
| mmx_in_space | lotuspsychje and tomreyn okay thanks y'all i'll take it from here. 🙂 | 14:12 |
| tomreyn | good luck | 14:17 |
| lotuspsychje | mmx_in_space: i would still like to see your dmesg, just to make sure everything is right with your nvidia | 14:19 |
| mmx_in_space | ok just a sec; is it supposed to be several pages long? | 14:19 |
| mmx_in_space | just paste to bpa.st again? | 14:20 |
| lotuspsychje | sure thing mmx_in_space | 14:21 |
| mmx_in_space | https://bpa.st/LJC7WOTZY73HN3ZKIJBVBPMR4Y | 14:37 |
| mmx_in_space | lotuspsychje: | 14:37 |
| lotuspsychje | aha | 14:38 |
| lotuspsychje | try secureboot disabled mmx_in_space , enabled it can influence your hardware | 14:38 |
| mmx_in_space | lotuspsychje: need to do some errands will get back later today in a few hours. thanks again y'all 😃 | 14:40 |
| lotuspsychje | ok good luck mmx_in_space | 14:40 |
| mmx_in_space | cheers | 14:40 |
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| allmyfriends | Hello World! | 16:16 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome allmyfriends | 16:18 |
| allmyfriends | hehe thanks | 16:18 |
| lotuspsychje | how can we help you today allmyfriends | 16:18 |
| allmyfriends | nah man i just installed lxqt and this also comes with it | 16:19 |
| allmyfriends | and ginna gie it a try | 16:19 |
| allmyfriends | u good man? | 16:19 |
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| mmx_in_space | lotuspsychje: i think i want to hold off for now on trying secure boot off | 18:08 |
| lotuspsychje | mmx_in_space: why's that? | 18:08 |
| mmx_in_space | but maybe you can help me get my trackpad working while wasd'ing ? | 18:08 |
| mmx_in_space | just feel uncomfortable about it without knowing more about it first | 18:09 |
| mmx_in_space | i can live with the not as high as fps as i'd like for now | 18:10 |
| lotuspsychje | mmx_in_space: what i suspect is secureboot is blocking your nvidia and prevent you to play on steam | 18:10 |
| mmx_in_space | i can play on steam | 18:10 |
| mmx_in_space | it's just the frames per second aren't as good as i'd like | 18:11 |
| mmx_in_space | still decent though | 18:11 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah as it fallsback to intel graphics | 18:11 |
| mmx_in_space | steam is working okay, not outstandingly but good enough for now | 18:12 |
| leftyfb | mmx_in_space: secureboot buys you absolutely nothing | 18:12 |
| mmx_in_space | hmm | 18:12 |
| mmx_in_space | perhaps, but will it maybe causes any other problems with anything else maybe? | 18:13 |
| mmx_in_space | will it prevent me from using windows if i need to or anything like that? | 18:13 |
| leftyfb | Will secureboot cause problems if you disable it? No | 18:13 |
| teward | mmx_in_space: not unless you're installing random device drivers by random instructions, etc. | 18:13 |
| mmx_in_space | i know a little about secure boot but not much | 18:14 |
| teward | mmx_in_space: do you *have* windows on your computer? | 18:14 |
| teward | if the answer is "no" then you gain nothing from Secure Boot | 18:14 |
| teward | there may be *compliance* reasons if the system is issued by your workplace or such that require Secure Boot to be enabled, but if this is your own personal machine you don't *really* gain much from Secure Boot | 18:14 |
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| mmx_in_space | absolutely nothing or very little ? | 18:15 |
| mmx_in_space | hmm | 18:15 |
| teward | very very *very* little. | 18:15 |
| teward | ultimately to the point of "not worth it" in most deployment cases unless you are dualbooting with Windows because Windows 11+ has some security requirements on it | 18:16 |
| mmx_in_space | i am pretty sure i do not currently have any windows install at the moment, but | 18:16 |
| mmx_in_space | as far as i know i wiped the nvme ssd | 18:16 |
| mmx_in_space | but am not sure if windows is on like a recovery partition or something like that | 18:17 |
| teward | mmx_in_space: if you don't have Windows installed then you're fine, if you *need* windows for something you can set it up on a VM and have that VM set to use secure boot within the VM, then use things like Office, etc. but if LInux is the only os you actually *boot* to then you don't *need* secure boot | 18:17 |
| teward | mmx_in_space: if you wiped the SSd the recovery partitions are gone too | 18:17 |
| teward | mmx_in_space: for the purposes of *testing* to see if the issue is Secure Boot, just disable SEcure Boot and see what happens | 18:17 |
| teward | if nothing changes you can turn it back on afterwards. | 18:17 |
| mmx_in_space | hmm | 18:18 |
| mmx_in_space | is there such a thing as something like ''e-fuses'' in laptops these days by any chance | 18:18 |
| mmx_in_space | just wondering if anything permanent might happen by toggling secure boot | 18:19 |
| teward | 'e-fuses'? do you mean that stuff that's used to determine if your system is jailbroken on like Android devices? | 18:19 |
| mmx_in_space | i think so | 18:19 |
| teward | mmx_in_space: as someone who's been doing things in the tech sector with actual computers like Dell, HP, etc. for over a decade, turning off secure boot won't void your computer warranty, etc. if it's an actual computer and not like a chromebook | 18:19 |
| teward | it doesn't burn out fuses, it doesn't break your hardware, it doesn't cause physical damage | 18:20 |
| teward | if you're on a chromebook or an actual android tablet then that's different, but if you're on a standard computer such as a desktop, laptop, server, etc. it won't break anything | 18:20 |
| mmx_in_space | alright i'll give it a try right now | 18:20 |
| mmx_in_space | 🙂 | 18:21 |
| mmx_in_space | be back in a few minutes hopefully | 18:21 |
| teward | the ONLY thing it'd do is if your system was issued to you by your company etc. it *MIGHT* make you noncompliant if they require secure boot to be enabled, but again if it's your own PERSONAL system that doesn't apply | 18:21 |
| mmx_in_space | it's a personal laptop | 18:22 |
| davegarath | Hello evereyone, I'm trying to install ubuntu 24.04 in dual boot alongside Windows but I've got: "Turn off BitLocker to continue". I rebooted in Windows and bitlocker is not enabled. Someone can suggest to me hot to solve ? | 18:22 |
| mmx_in_space | asus midrange gaming laptop | 18:22 |
| teward | mmx_in_space: you'll be fine then | 18:22 |
| teward | davegarath: turn off fast boot / quick boot in Windows, fully shut Windows down. | 18:22 |
| mmx_in_space | wish me luck 🙂 | 18:23 |
| davegarath | ty teward I'll try | 18:25 |
| FKAShinobi | I'm having an issue in 22.04 where my monitors keep getting woken up even when the screen is locked and I'm away. I have no idea on how to troubleshoot that. Please advise. | 18:40 |
| leftyfb | FKAShinobi: disable all notifications in your settings | 18:41 |
| leftyfb | sorry, disabling lock screen notifications | 18:41 |
| ioria | FKAShinobi, how did you find that out ? | 18:42 |
| FKAShinobi | leftyfb: That seems to have cured it. Thank you! | 18:43 |
| FKAShinobi | ioria: find out what specifically? | 18:44 |
| ioria | FKAShinobi, never mind | 18:44 |
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| jsmooth | I closed out my WSL Bash Terminals and when I reopened them mysql isn't running anymore. I already tried shutting down wsl and restarting it, but that didn't help. How should I restart mysql? | 18:59 |
| jsmooth | I'm using 24.04.1 | 18:59 |
| tomsolo | Hi there everyone | 19:00 |
| mmx_in_space | discrete graphics card enabled and being used successfully now! thanks everyone! | 19:00 |
| mmx_in_space | secure boot off seems to be the trick | 19:00 |
| jsmooth | Also, I downloaded a pre-configured Ubuntu for VirtualBox and set resolution to 1280x1024, but it shows as only a square on my screen even if I full-screen | 19:01 |
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| leftyfb | jsmooth: sorry, is the question about a WSL VM or Virtualbox VM? | 19:07 |
| leftyfb | jsmooth: for mysql, you should enable the service | 19:07 |
| enigma9o7 | You may have to install guest additions in your virtualbox VM for better resolution support. | 19:08 |
| enigma9o7 | Although you can usually change resolution in the VMs own settings (without installing guest additions). | 19:09 |
| jsmooth | HOw do I properly enable it? | 19:09 |
| enigma9o7 | Installing guest additions allows you to set it from the virtualbox menu, and to resize existing windows.... | 19:10 |
| jsmooth | I reized it, but it shows a bunch of white around the "desktop" instead of making hte desktop bigger. | 19:10 |
| lotuspsychje | !yay | m-m_e_in_LEO | 19:10 |
| ubottu | m-m_e_in_LEO: Glad you made it! :-) | 19:10 |
| enigma9o7 | how did you reize it? | 19:11 |
| jsmooth | I dragged by the corner of the window | 19:11 |
| m-m_e_in_LEO | so secure boot is 99 percent worthless in non-work environments? | 19:11 |
| enigma9o7 | Without guest additions that's expect behavior then. | 19:11 |
| enigma9o7 | Resizing the window won't change the guest resolution unless you have guest additions installed. | 19:11 |
| enigma9o7 | If you want to change the guest resolution, go to settings menu for display in the guest. | 19:12 |
| enigma9o7 | m-m_e_in_LEO What is the work environment use case? | 19:13 |
| teward | m-m_e_in_LEO: that's a larger discussion that is beyond the scope of Ubuntu support | 19:21 |
| nshirelaptop | I need to send f10 to htop to kill it but it seems to get intercepted by the terminal emulator on my ubuntu laptop, what's the best workaround? | 20:24 |
| ravage | ctrl-c | 20:24 |
| belovedsandworm | hi, I am trying to install ubuntu 22.04.5 and am getting an ubiquity error that says something like "This does not appear to be an official ubuntu package" | 20:24 |
| belovedsandworm | I downloaded the image from ubuntu.com and checked sigs | 20:24 |
| ravage | and why not 24.04? | 20:25 |
| belovedsandworm | It suggests I update the index of available packages | 20:25 |
| belovedsandworm | 22.04.5 is what I am authorized to install | 20:25 |
| ravage | never heard of that error | 20:25 |
| ravage | it could be some traffic interception on your corporate network? | 20:26 |
| nshirelaptop | where in the installation process do you get that error belovedsandworm ? | 20:26 |
| nshirelaptop | oh ubuquiti the network software? | 20:26 |
| belovedsandworm | nshirelaptop: I started the install, walked away, came back and it was there. Not sure what step it was on | 20:26 |
| ravage | so try again? | 20:26 |
| nshirelaptop | so you clicked through all the stuff asking to set up username, pw, computer name, etc? and it was actually going through installation when you hit that? | 20:27 |
| belovedsandworm | That's right | 20:27 |
| nshirelaptop | my only guess is corrupt installation media | 20:27 |
| nshirelaptop | weird error | 20:28 |
| nshirelaptop | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1899628 | 20:28 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1899628 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug fails just after installing apt update has never been done" [Low, Triaged] | 20:28 | |
| nshirelaptop | this error : https://imgur.com/fnDz6vf ? | 20:29 |
| nshirelaptop | I think that error is rather inconsequential, temporarily. | 20:29 |
| nshirelaptop | shouldn't stop installation | 20:30 |
| belovedsandworm | nshirelaptop: yup that's the error | 20:30 |
| belovedsandworm | It completely halts installation | 20:30 |
| nshirelaptop | my only guess it a corporate firewall is intercepting the apt traffic and messing with it. try offline installation? | 20:31 |
| belovedsandworm | ok, will do. I'll unplug it from the network | 20:31 |
| nshirelaptop | I've had ubuntu on this xps laptop for over 5 years now and I've got to say the UI is much more responsive and "tuned" than in windows. | 20:34 |
| nshirelaptop | the user experience is comparable to that of a Mac, for me at least. | 20:34 |
| belovedsandworm | must be nice | 20:37 |
| bprompt | belovedsandworm: bear in mind that depends on workload processing, so it'll depend on what you use it for mostly | 20:39 |
| nshirelaptop | this only has a dual core i5 6200u with 8GB of RAM, windows would be freezing up and lagging out to the point of unusability already | 20:40 |
| nshirelaptop | of course Dell advertised as being ready for ubuntu out of the box | 20:40 |
| bprompt | nshirelaptop: well, windows11 would be slow, windows7 would be very fast though :), and windows8.1 will work well too | 20:43 |
| nshirelaptop | I have 10 in another partition and even without much installed it likes to stutter frequently | 20:44 |
| nshirelaptop | maybe some of that can be attributed to poor coding practices that seem to be very common in end-user software on windows | 20:45 |
| bprompt | nshirelaptop: well, or too many running daemons, all that's optimizable | 20:45 |
| kuka_lie | i tryed running window 11 in vm and it was terrible it took 20-60% of cpu just being in desktop (i got i7 2th gen but still) | 20:46 |
| kuka_lie | and windows 11 used like 4-6 gb doing nothing | 20:48 |
| bprompt | kuka_lie: it runs by default too many services, is just a matter of trimming down that | 20:48 |
| nshirelaptop | windows 11 has what like 100 services under svchost now? | 20:48 |
| nshirelaptop | I remember XP having maybe, 20? | 20:49 |
| bprompt | kuka_lie: 4-6gbs of ram sounds about right for windows11 allocation alone | 20:49 |
| bprompt | nshirelaptop: I'd expect it more, is like more than 100 services in win10 | 20:50 |
| nshirelaptop | that number was a total guess based on how long I had to scroll through them in taskman | 20:50 |
| nshirelaptop | haha | 20:50 |
| kuka_lie | btw windows 11 has by default fast boot so it puts evrything from ram to disc. is it a problem with vulnerabilityes like buffer overflow? and how about ssd destroying after few hundred writes | 20:53 |
| nshirelaptop | I still have 97% drive remaining life on my 3 year old 500gb boot SSD so I don't think fast startup has too much of an impact there | 20:57 |
| bprompt | and prices on SSD are still coming down | 20:59 |
| belovedsandworm | nshirelaptop: install still failed using Minimal Install, no thrid-party drivers, and no internet connection | 21:05 |
| nshirelaptop | same error? | 21:05 |
| belovedsandworm | yup, same error | 21:06 |
| belovedsandworm | I watched it this time, it just seemed to be going through the install nothing stood out to me as particularly odd or failing | 21:07 |
| belovedsandworm | Then the installer simply crashes with that error | 21:07 |
| belovedsandworm | grub gets installed | 21:08 |
| belovedsandworm | Its strange, if I select "try ubuntu" instead of "install ubuntu" on the live usb it also doesn't work | 21:09 |
| belovedsandworm | I created the boot medium with dd. I don't see why that should be a problem but I see the tutorial pushes Etcher | 21:10 |
| nshirelaptop | dd is known to not work with windows installers... should be fine with linux though? | 21:10 |
| Xeta | im doing something wrong | 21:11 |
| Xeta | ((Cronjob)) cd /home/logger && sh backup.sh>>/home/logger/error.log | 21:11 |
| Xeta | ((backup.sh)) sudo -u logger rsync -h --progress /home/logger/checkin/ /etc/backupdata | 21:11 |
| Xeta | something in that combo is broken | 21:12 |
| Xeta | is it an obvious mistake 🤔 and im just not seeing it? | 21:16 |
| leftyfb | Xeta: don't use sudo in a script being called via cron. Run it as root if needed. Don't redirect the output as part of the cron command. Write it as part of your script | 21:22 |
| leftyfb | Xeta: and in all honesty, you should be running this as a systemd oneshot service with a timer | 21:22 |
| Xeta | leftyfb sadly i have no clue what any of that means | 21:24 |
| leftyfb | Xeta: which part(s) exactly? | 21:24 |
| Xeta | systemd oneshot service | 21:25 |
| Xeta | its on a every 5min Cronjob | 21:25 |
| leftyfb | Xeta: https://opensource.com/article/20/7/systemd-timers | 21:26 |
| Xeta | thank you | 21:27 |
| leftyfb | Xeta: run the service as your "logger" user | 21:27 |
| leftyfb | and instead of using >>error.log, log to that file as part of the script, not the service/cron command | 21:28 |
| leftyfb | or better yet, just write to stdout and use the journal logs for your new service | 21:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | assuming your service manager is systemd I suppose | 21:31 |
| leftyfb | if they're running a supported version of ubuntu, it is | 21:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sorry thought it was a different channel | 21:33 |
| Xeta | Ubuntu 24.04 LTS | 21:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Yep the guide to make a systemd service should explain everything. just don't expect Exec to run shell code directly | 21:51 |
| Xeta | systemd can do sh blah.sh though? | 22:05 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ExecStart=sh -c 'rsync shell code here' or make a script with valid shebang and permissions for ExecStart=/path/to/backup.sh | 22:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Xeta: example of a simple backup service that maybe useful https://bpa.st/F3OQ/raw | 22:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | has compression and removes anything older that 3 months which could be removed. | 22:37 |
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