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killer42hi00:05
killer42arap?00:06
killer42see you00:07
jsmoothWhat is the right command to start mysql server when it has shut down for some reason?00:10
jsmoothI tried asking in #mysql but thumbs told me to ask here00:11
leftyfbjsmooth: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install-and-configure-a-mysql-server00:13
leftyfbjsmooth: why are you running a mysql server?00:13
jsmoothBEcuase I'm tryingto develop a php web application00:13
rud0lfis ubuntu repos mirror down or something? `sudo apt update` yields many errors and warnings00:18
leftyfbno problems here00:19
leftyfbrud0lf: please pastebin the full command and output you're running00:19
rud0lfnever mind it's all right now00:21
rud0lfmust be internet hiccup00:21
ashafqKiwix desktop segfaults on Ubuntu 24.04, any ideas?00:27
ashafqQSocketNotifier: Can only be used with threads started with QThread00:27
ashafq[1512015:1512015:1112/192643.840052:FATAL:credentials.cc(125)] Check failed: . : Permission denied (13)00:27
leftyfbashafq: how did you install it and on what ubuntu release?00:29
ashafqleftyfb: `apt install kiwix`00:30
leftyfbashafq: what release of ubuntu?00:31
ashafq24.0400:31
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m-m_e_in_LEOhi again all. :-)    can y'all help me get my trackpad working while at the same time using WASD keys to play games?02:34
m-m_e_in_LEOwhen i use WASD the trackpad locks up until i let go of wasd keys02:35
m-m_e_in_LEOoh nevermind, i figured it out :-)02:40
m-m_e_in_LEOgsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad disable-while-typing false02:40
Guest38hi03:45
Guest38russian rapists are welcomed in our opensource project. We are pro-loli-bride. glad russians have inadvertantly killed feminists with their WW3 prelude: https://quakeone.com/forum/quake-talk/quake-central/284392-dear-russians-banned-from-linux-plz-help-chaosesque-instead           (there was a nuclear explosion in toropets, tver oblast on03:45
Guest38the night of sep 17-18 2024 btw) (yes that plasma ball and it's radiance proves it visually)03:45
tomreynGuest382: there's ##politics, but they, too, don't take loonatics. don't spam.03:52
tomreynand don't kline evade03:52
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realivanjxanyone else here using firefox snap and having a lot of "firefox: video-playing (idle)" in gnome inhibit session preventing sleep?06:05
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realivanjxalready tried closing all the tabs except new tab but still having video-playing idle06:06
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Guest39hey all, need help with a few issues I'm encountering, I recently upgraded from 22.04 to 24.04 but for some reason the upgrade didn't happen correctly. I searched online to see if there is a way to recover a broken install and started following a guide which, in short, suggested to mount few directories of a live usb copy to the drive I'm trying to06:31
Guest39revive. Now I'm getting this error: sudo: unable to allocate pty: No such device. Upon further checking it seems like when I ran "sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/repair2/dev/" it could have caused the issue. Now every instruction I find online is suggesting to run a command using "sudo" which in my case is not working. I'm also hesitant to log out of06:31
Guest39my live usb because in the process of all of this mess, I mistakenly deleted a the directories under my /home and I'm hoping to recover them06:31
Guest39so yeah need help!06:31
cakeBro go on Claude 3.5 and ask if nobody can help in here06:32
Guest39I did all the recommendation suggest a variation of a command that requires sudo to run06:33
Guest39lol, my issue is sudo is no longer working06:33
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geirhaI don't see how mount-binding /dev into another place could've broken sudo ... unless maybe you accidentally removed some files from /dev as well..? regardless, it would require root permission to fix, so it seems you've thoroughly locked yourself out07:53
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kmikitabindfs vs symlink09:34
kmikitaDoes bindfs work transparent or it have performance impact?09:34
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utilizadorBom dia Alguém por aqui?10:13
lotuspsychje!br | utilizador10:13
ubottuutilizador: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.10:13
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tomreynkmikita: no performance impact as far as i can tell11:56
tomreynthat's if you mean mount --bind11:57
tomreyni haven't used bindfs (user space implementation), can't comment there11:57
tomreyn"All FUSE filesystems necessarily incur a performance penalty in CPU time and memory consumption. If all you need is to make a directory read-only then mount --bind -r is more efficient."11:58
kmikitatomreyn, thanks for the answer. bindfs equal to "mount --bind", isn't it?11:58
tomreynhttps://bindfs.org/11:58
tomreynno, not equal, just similar11:59
tomreynmount --bind is implemented in kernel space11:59
kmikitakernel space is better then fuse12:02
kmikitatomreyn, Thank you for the clarification12:02
tomreynyou're welcome12:04
kmikitaView is expressed here that binding faster than symlinks: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/49639/57367612:20
tomreynfor symlinks, the file system object will need to be read and "interpreted", whereas bind mounts should already be in kernel memory, so this may be faster (only) *if you have a whole lot of them and recurse over them*. however, as is also stated there, using bind mounts as a replacement for symlinks is probably a bad idea, since it will quicky become unmanageable.12:44
BluesKajHi all12:46
kmikitatomaw, indeed. I want to mount 4TB partition in ~/media and "mount --bind" looks preferable12:52
kmikitatomreyn, *12:53
mgedminwhy?  a symlink is fine and doesn't require root12:57
mgedmin(or you could change the mountpoint with gnome-disks and mount on ~/media directly)12:58
mgedminhmm, snap sandboxing might treat a bind mount differently from a symlink12:58
kmikitamgedmin, with symlinks I have issue using snap apps (confine strict to custom path)13:00
kmikitaand I looking for less performance impact solution13:03
mgedminbind mounts are the less performance-impacting solution13:07
mgedminthey're as almost-zero-cost as possible13:07
dell_msg NickServ REGISTER 123 rishi.yadav@imentus.com13:08
ashafqleftyfb: were you able to look into the 24.04 issue with kiwix-desktop?13:18
ashafqleftyfb: I could show the backtrace as well but I don't have all the symbols.13:19
ashafqhttps://paste.debian.net/1335403/13:20
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signofzetahey, I just updated to Ubuntu 24.10 and now my notification area is getting spammed with constant notifications from AppArmor about transmission-daemon (the BitTorrent client).  I created a local AA override for "/var/log/kern.log w" but that didn't help. Has anyone else had this problem?14:59
mari-estelhmm i installed what was described here postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu but still have not got any `postgres` command (nor other commands in postgresql.org/docs/15/reference-server.html) in my ubuntu 24.0414:59
mari-estelyou can enable/disable notifications from settings signofzeta15:00
signofzetaI might do that, though transmission-daemon is also refusing to start up.  It runs for a few minutes and then systemctl says something timed out.  I'm wondering if AppArmor is the culprit, since it never complained on 24.04 LTS.15:03
signofzeta"transmission-daemon.service: start operation timed out. Terminating" is all that journalctl says, so I admit I'm guessing here.15:04
mkou_After I start a VM with virtualbox, the bluetooth service at the host becomes inactive and cant activate it. Its ubuntu 22 host and 24 vm, Any ideas where should I start fixing this?15:11
mkou_I have errors like this: Nov 13 15:20:14 userx bluetoothd[1512]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.68 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink/sbc_xq_55215:14
mgedminit's somewhat annoying that the fingerprint reader works only 50% of the time15:18
mkou_ah, I see the problem, I had in the USB settings of the VM bluetooth device to be passed through the VM15:23
tomreynmari-estel: you are probably looknig for a postgresql client, which needs to be installed seperately, i think. it would provide the "psql" command: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/app-psql.html15:30
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mari-estelhmm i installed -client and -common. Found on ubuntu docs that `sudo -u postgres ...` is the way to go, but my script is still failing. My problem now, i guess15:31
tomreyn"sudo -u postgres <some command>" would run "some command" as user "postgres", but not provide a "postgres" command.15:32
mari-estelyeah i know15:32
tomreynand you're right, you usually run psql as user postgres, at least that how it was when i last used postgresql, which is a while ago.15:33
tomreynhttps://wiki.debian.org/PostgreSql matches what i seem to remember15:36
mari-estelcheers tomreyn15:45
katie30hi15:57
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jellyhi, do-release-upgrade 22.04->24.04 shut down NetworkManager, lost wifi network, and then asks me to upgrade Thunderbird via snaps16:59
samsamtry sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade17:00
enigma9o7Neat.17:00
jellysamsam, do-release-upgrade is still running17:00
enigma9o7So it asks you to upgrade a snap after it disabled wifi?  That seems difficult.17:00
jellyyes17:01
samsamcan you re enable wifi17:01
jellysamsam, I'd like to do that, how?17:01
enigma9o7Maybe it's just reminding you to do it later.   Why did it lose wifi tho, that seems odd.17:02
jellynmtui and nmcli do not exist any more17:02
samsamsystemctl start ntwork-manager17:02
samsamI think17:02
jellythe NetworkManager service is masked17:02
samsamwhy17:03
jellydo-release-upgrade did it, afaict17:03
enigma9o7What leads you to this belief?17:04
jellyoutput of systemctl status NetworkManager showing it being stopped during do-release-upgrade17:05
samsamtry and connect it to ethernet17:05
jellythere is no wired ethernet.  My question is how to configure wifi with whatever's available in this state17:06
enigma9o7That won't do much if NetworkManager is stopped.17:06
jellywell I know how to configure an eth0 manually, I just don't have a wire17:07
samsamthe NetworkManager service is masked17:07
samsamsystemctl status NetworkManager17:07
jellyyes, that's how I found out it was masked17:07
samsamyou can Un mask it with sudo systemctl unmask NetworkManager17:07
enigma9o7I would imagine if it disabled wifi/network manager, it's because it's not needed, so I wouldn't worry about it.17:07
jellyit's KINDA needed if you want snap to work.  Also I was logged in via ssh, but eh17:08
jellynow I'm logged in at the console and resumed the screen session17:08
samsamif you're logged in with ssh and you aren't connected with ethernet then you are able to get some kind of network connection17:09
jellypresumably the process disabled N-M for a reason (netplan?  networkd?  I have no idea what 24.04 uses for network yet)17:09
jellyI logged in at the console after noticing the network went down17:10
samsamI'm not sure either, but did you already try to unmask it and restart network manager?17:10
samsamadditionally, have you tried turning off and back on again?17:10
jellysamsam, that's plan B, but why did do-release-upgrade stop and mask it and remove nmcli?17:10
jellydo you know what's supposed to be the current way to configure network in 24.04?17:11
samsamUbuntu 18.04 LTS and later versions use Netplan to configure networking. When upgrading from a version that used ifupdown or NetworkManager17:12
jellyokay, how to bring wifi back up with netplan?17:14
jelly/etc/netplan is empty17:15
samsamis it Ubuntu server or Ubuntu desktop17:15
jellylaptop17:16
samsamso I'm assuming you're running Ubuntu desktop because they use different network managers17:17
jellysure17:17
elSmithHere are some examples: https://netplan.readthedocs.io/en/0.105/examples.html17:17
jellyIf you tell me a command that figures out whether it's a desktop or server install I can run it if it matters17:17
jellypresumably it's a "desktop" if that means "workstation"17:18
samsamdo you have a gui17:18
jellyno17:18
samsamcan you navigate to a web browser?17:18
jellycorrection: it's a laptop, there's a GUI installed, it's just not running right now17:18
elSmithsudo find / -name *.yaml17:19
jellyand -xdev I presume?17:20
samsamwould you rather try and use netplan or switch back to network manager17:20
jellyI would rather not disrupt the still running do-release-upgrade17:21
jellywhich presumably disabled N-M for a reason17:21
samsamit didn't disable it for no reason, from what I can tell it is changing it from network manager to netplan because its updated17:22
ravagefastest solution is to plugin a cable17:22
ravageand fix wifi after the upgrade17:22
samsamas in the operating system17:22
samsamyes that is the best solution17:22
jellythat requires moving physically to the router in the attic.  There are spiders.  But that's not pertinent to #ubuntu, I'll type in a netplan file and try applying it17:25
elSmithYour best option is to head to McDonalds and buy that cup of coffee for the free wifi17:25
jellyI'd still need to type in the wifi config, just for a different AP :-)17:26
jellyfind found some examples in /usr/share/doc/netplan/examples/17:26
jellytyped in a wifi yaml with renderer: networkd, that worked17:33
samsamhello, did you  love your probelm17:36
jellyand answered "Retry" to what looks like thunderbird's package question about retrying download of the snap17:36
jellyI love almost all my tech problems17:36
jellybut also solved17:37
samsamwhat do you mean17:37
jelly<samsam> hello, did you  love your probelm17:37
samsamalso what is the end goal here17:37
jellyrunning do-release-upgrade successfully to the end, and using 24.04 on the laptop17:38
samsamrestart the computer17:38
samsamit'll solve 90% of your probelms17:38
jellyin the middle of the do-release-upgrade?17:39
jellythat does not sound like sound advice, sorry17:40
samsamyou're right, what is version are you currently running and what do you see on your screen17:41
samsamtry sudo do-release-upgrade -d to get the latest release forcefully17:42
jellydo-release-upgrade is still running17:49
samsamdo control c17:50
samsamand then restart it17:50
jellywhy would I stop it, it's doing its thing?17:50
ravagejust finish the upgrade 🙂17:51
samsamI think the upgrade cant be finished because the network manager got disabled or swiched17:51
ravagejelly said its running17:52
ravageso dont tell him to cancel it17:52
ravageno reason to17:52
jellysamsam, you were away for a bit: I managed to get network running, the thunderbind package THANKFULLY didn't break on first try but asked me to Retry downloading the snap.  That worked after configuring the network, and do-release-upgrade continues running17:52
samsamokay so what's your current issue?17:53
jellythere is none17:53
samsamoh17:53
samsamok :]17:53
jellyyou asked if I loved my problem.  I answered I did love it, and also solved it.17:54
jellyit remains solved17:54
samsamoh17:57
samsamno I meant solve17:57
samsamnot love17:57
samsammy bad17:58
jelly*** initramfs.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? y one of these days I need to move that MODULES=dep into conf.d/18:09
samsamuse the mv command18:12
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jellyooh, there's a memtest+ that works for UEFI now18:19
jellydo-release-upgrade finished mostly successfully, thanks to all who helped!  gdm/lightdm/whateverdm is not starting post reboot but I can deal with that later.18:24
samsamuse systemctl18:29
jellyhmm, none of the *dm packages is installed18:34
jellys/is/are/18:34
ravageif this is a regular Ubuntu Desktop system try: sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop18:35
samsamor be cool and install kde plasma18:36
jellyI had both installed I think18:36
MilenchoHey guys, what could be the reason for wifi pci-express card to be unavaibale , im using only network manager, no wpa supplicants no netplan18:36
Milenchojust to gimme a hint where to dig in18:37
kuka_lielspci18:37
jellyMilencho, is it visible in lspci?18:37
jellyuse lspci -nn to show us the PCI-id [xxxx:xxxx] number18:37
Milencho4:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6E(802.11ax) AX210/AX1675* 2x2 [Typhoon Peak] (rev 1a)18:37
jellyyou forgot -nn18:38
samsamtry and install the reivers18:38
samsamdrivers18:38
jelly00:14.3 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Cannon Point-LP CNVi [Wireless-AC] --> [8086:9df0] <-- this bit determines the driver used18:39
Milencho04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6E(802.11ax) AX210/AX1675* 2x2 [Typhoon Peak] [8086:2725] (rev 1a)18:39
Milenchosorry i was looking in dmseg18:40
jellythat's the usual iwlwifi driver18:40
Milenchoyup18:40
Milencho 8.401868] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: WRT: Invalid buffer destination18:41
Milenchothis is the only row that i'm able to find with some invalid/error18:41
samsamis it installed18:41
samsamthe driver18:42
Milenchowlwifi               598016  1 iwlmvm18:43
Milenchocfg80211             1323008  3 iwlmvm,iwlwifi,mac8021118:43
jellysamsam, that driver exists even on my old 20.04 other laptop18:43
Milenchodriver looks to be installed/loaded18:43
Milenchotrying to figure out what could be the reason (last 1/2 hours :(18:44
samsamtry uninstalling and then re installing it18:44
Milenchochatgpt is also out of hints18:44
jellyMilencho, eh.  are you able to pastebin the whole dmesg?18:44
Milenchojelly, yup u want whole dmsg18:44
Milenchogimme a min18:45
jellyyes, maybe there's some sort of clue18:45
jellyMilencho, it isn't a horribly old Ubuntu release or kernel version?18:45
samsamMilencho10 chat gpt is so real18:45
samsamMilencho chat gpt is so real18:46
Milenchojelly, 24.0418:48
Milencho6.8 kernel18:48
Milenchopretty much up to date18:48
jellyan AX210 ought to work, that's not too new a card18:48
Milenchojelly,  https://pastebin.com/8K0QXGQt18:48
jellyI really meant the whole dmesg18:49
Milenchojelly, yup i read a comments that intel is fine for linux driver and bought it before months but didn't use it18:49
Milenchohttps://dpaste.com/B9CY5JEN518:50
samsamwhy does unbuntu not install on my laptop but debian does18:52
cakeAny error messages?18:54
Milenchojelly, any suggestions, do you think plug out/in from pci slot could help18:59
Milenchojust shooting in the dark not sure what else tocheck19:00
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EnergeticFluxHas anyone successfully installed self-hosted Landscape? I have a package from it that always fails, so I want to make sure it's not just me.19:04
Milenchoi will try to plug out/in19:05
jellyMilencho, unlikely, it looks detected well19:05
Milenchojelly, tried to change the slot , turn back to previous one and nothing19:22
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Apachezupdate for xdiagnose seems broken: https://pastebin.com/mrqHSDDD19:52
JanCApachez: yes, I've seen that before; best file a bug report19:53
blinuxHi, I just tried Ubuntu Mate and was very surprised to find that after installation the wired ethernet did not work, though it worked during live installation. I did some checking and I read multiple reports of wired ethernet not working with Ubuntu server as well as desktop at various time over the years in ways that were very unusual.20:58
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