[00:05] <killer42> hi
[00:06] <killer42> arap?
[00:07] <killer42> see you
[00:10] <jsmooth> What is the right command to start mysql server when it has shut down for some reason?
[00:11] <jsmooth> I tried asking in #mysql but thumbs told me to ask here
[00:13] <leftyfb> jsmooth: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install-and-configure-a-mysql-server
[00:13] <leftyfb> jsmooth: why are you running a mysql server?
[00:13] <jsmooth> BEcuase I'm tryingto develop a php web application
[00:18] <rud0lf> is ubuntu repos mirror down or something? `sudo apt update` yields many errors and warnings
[00:19] <leftyfb> no problems here
[00:19] <leftyfb> rud0lf: please pastebin the full command and output you're running
[00:21] <rud0lf> never mind it's all right now
[00:21] <rud0lf> must be internet hiccup
[00:27] <ashafq> Kiwix desktop segfaults on Ubuntu 24.04, any ideas?
[00:27] <ashafq> QSocketNotifier: Can only be used with threads started with QThread
[00:27] <ashafq> [1512015:1512015:1112/192643.840052:FATAL:credentials.cc(125)] Check failed: . : Permission denied (13)
[00:29] <leftyfb> ashafq: how did you install it and on what ubuntu release?
[00:30] <ashafq> leftyfb: `apt install kiwix`
[00:31] <leftyfb> ashafq: what release of ubuntu?
[00:31] <ashafq> 24.04
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[02:34] <m-m_e_in_LEO> hi again all. :-)    can y'all help me get my trackpad working while at the same time using WASD keys to play games?
[02:35] <m-m_e_in_LEO> when i use WASD the trackpad locks up until i let go of wasd keys
[02:40] <m-m_e_in_LEO> oh nevermind, i figured it out :-)
[02:40] <m-m_e_in_LEO> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad disable-while-typing false
[03:45] <Guest38> hi
[03:45] <Guest38> russian rapists are welcomed in our opensource project. We are pro-loli-bride. glad russians have inadvertantly killed feminists with their WW3 prelude: https://quakeone.com/forum/quake-talk/quake-central/284392-dear-russians-banned-from-linux-plz-help-chaosesque-instead           (there was a nuclear explosion in toropets, tver oblast on
[03:45] <Guest38> the night of sep 17-18 2024 btw) (yes that plasma ball and it's radiance proves it visually)
[03:52] <tomreyn> Guest382: there's ##politics, but they, too, don't take loonatics. don't spam.
[03:52] <tomreyn> and don't kline evade
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[06:05] <realivanjx> anyone else here using firefox snap and having a lot of "firefox: video-playing (idle)" in gnome inhibit session preventing sleep?
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[06:06] <realivanjx> already tried closing all the tabs except new tab but still having video-playing idle
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[06:31] <Guest39> hey all, need help with a few issues I'm encountering, I recently upgraded from 22.04 to 24.04 but for some reason the upgrade didn't happen correctly. I searched online to see if there is a way to recover a broken install and started following a guide which, in short, suggested to mount few directories of a live usb copy to the drive I'm trying to
[06:31] <Guest39> revive. Now I'm getting this error: sudo: unable to allocate pty: No such device. Upon further checking it seems like when I ran "sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/repair2/dev/" it could have caused the issue. Now every instruction I find online is suggesting to run a command using "sudo" which in my case is not working. I'm also hesitant to log out of
[06:31] <Guest39> my live usb because in the process of all of this mess, I mistakenly deleted a the directories under my /home and I'm hoping to recover them
[06:31] <Guest39> so yeah need help!
[06:32] <cake> Bro go on Claude 3.5 and ask if nobody can help in here
[06:33] <Guest39> I did all the recommendation suggest a variation of a command that requires sudo to run
[06:33] <Guest39> lol, my issue is sudo is no longer working
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[07:53] <geirha> I don't see how mount-binding /dev into another place could've broken sudo ... unless maybe you accidentally removed some files from /dev as well..? regardless, it would require root permission to fix, so it seems you've thoroughly locked yourself out
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[09:34] <kmikita> bindfs vs symlink
[09:34] <kmikita> Does bindfs work transparent or it have performance impact?
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[10:13] <utilizador> Bom dia Alguém por aqui?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> !br | utilizador
[10:13] <ubottu> utilizador: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.
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[11:56] <tomreyn> kmikita: no performance impact as far as i can tell
[11:57] <tomreyn> that's if you mean mount --bind
[11:57] <tomreyn> i haven't used bindfs (user space implementation), can't comment there
[11:58] <tomreyn> "All FUSE filesystems necessarily incur a performance penalty in CPU time and memory consumption. If all you need is to make a directory read-only then mount --bind -r is more efficient."
[11:58] <kmikita> tomreyn, thanks for the answer. bindfs equal to "mount --bind", isn't it?
[11:58] <tomreyn> https://bindfs.org/
[11:59] <tomreyn> no, not equal, just similar
[11:59] <tomreyn> mount --bind is implemented in kernel space
[12:02] <kmikita> kernel space is better then fuse
[12:02] <kmikita> tomreyn, Thank you for the clarification
[12:04] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[12:20] <kmikita> View is expressed here that binding faster than symlinks: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/49639/573676
[12:44] <tomreyn> for symlinks, the file system object will need to be read and "interpreted", whereas bind mounts should already be in kernel memory, so this may be faster (only) *if you have a whole lot of them and recurse over them*. however, as is also stated there, using bind mounts as a replacement for symlinks is probably a bad idea, since it will quicky become unmanageable.
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:52] <kmikita> tomaw, indeed. I want to mount 4TB partition in ~/media and "mount --bind" looks preferable
[12:53] <kmikita> tomreyn, *
[12:57] <mgedmin> why?  a symlink is fine and doesn't require root
[12:58] <mgedmin> (or you could change the mountpoint with gnome-disks and mount on ~/media directly)
[12:58] <mgedmin> hmm, snap sandboxing might treat a bind mount differently from a symlink
[13:00] <kmikita> mgedmin, with symlinks I have issue using snap apps (confine strict to custom path)
[13:03] <kmikita> and I looking for less performance impact solution
[13:07] <mgedmin> bind mounts are the less performance-impacting solution
[13:07] <mgedmin> they're as almost-zero-cost as possible
[13:08] <dell_> msg NickServ REGISTER 123 rishi.yadav@imentus.com
[13:18] <ashafq> leftyfb: were you able to look into the 24.04 issue with kiwix-desktop?
[13:19] <ashafq> leftyfb: I could show the backtrace as well but I don't have all the symbols.
[13:20] <ashafq> https://paste.debian.net/1335403/
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[14:59] <signofzeta> hey, I just updated to Ubuntu 24.10 and now my notification area is getting spammed with constant notifications from AppArmor about transmission-daemon (the BitTorrent client).  I created a local AA override for "/var/log/kern.log w" but that didn't help. Has anyone else had this problem?
[14:59] <mari-estel> hmm i installed what was described here postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu but still have not got any `postgres` command (nor other commands in postgresql.org/docs/15/reference-server.html) in my ubuntu 24.04
[15:00] <mari-estel> you can enable/disable notifications from settings signofzeta
[15:03] <signofzeta> I might do that, though transmission-daemon is also refusing to start up.  It runs for a few minutes and then systemctl says something timed out.  I'm wondering if AppArmor is the culprit, since it never complained on 24.04 LTS.
[15:04] <signofzeta> "transmission-daemon.service: start operation timed out. Terminating" is all that journalctl says, so I admit I'm guessing here.
[15:11] <mkou_> After I start a VM with virtualbox, the bluetooth service at the host becomes inactive and cant activate it. Its ubuntu 22 host and 24 vm, Any ideas where should I start fixing this?
[15:14] <mkou_> I have errors like this: Nov 13 15:20:14 userx bluetoothd[1512]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.68 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink/sbc_xq_552
[15:18] <mgedmin> it's somewhat annoying that the fingerprint reader works only 50% of the time
[15:23] <mkou_> ah, I see the problem, I had in the USB settings of the VM bluetooth device to be passed through the VM
[15:30] <tomreyn> mari-estel: you are probably looknig for a postgresql client, which needs to be installed seperately, i think. it would provide the "psql" command: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/app-psql.html
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[15:31] <mari-estel> hmm i installed -client and -common. Found on ubuntu docs that `sudo -u postgres ...` is the way to go, but my script is still failing. My problem now, i guess
[15:32] <tomreyn> "sudo -u postgres <some command>" would run "some command" as user "postgres", but not provide a "postgres" command.
[15:32] <mari-estel> yeah i know
[15:33] <tomreyn> and you're right, you usually run psql as user postgres, at least that how it was when i last used postgresql, which is a while ago.
[15:36] <tomreyn> https://wiki.debian.org/PostgreSql matches what i seem to remember
[15:45] <mari-estel> cheers tomreyn
[15:57] <katie30> hi
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[16:59] <jelly> hi, do-release-upgrade 22.04->24.04 shut down NetworkManager, lost wifi network, and then asks me to upgrade Thunderbird via snaps
[17:00] <samsam> try sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[17:00] <enigma9o7> Neat.
[17:00] <jelly> samsam, do-release-upgrade is still running
[17:00] <enigma9o7> So it asks you to upgrade a snap after it disabled wifi?  That seems difficult.
[17:01] <jelly> yes
[17:01] <samsam> can you re enable wifi
[17:01] <jelly> samsam, I'd like to do that, how?
[17:02] <enigma9o7> Maybe it's just reminding you to do it later.   Why did it lose wifi tho, that seems odd.
[17:02] <jelly> nmtui and nmcli do not exist any more
[17:02] <samsam> systemctl start ntwork-manager
[17:02] <samsam> I think
[17:02] <jelly> the NetworkManager service is masked
[17:03] <samsam> why
[17:03] <jelly> do-release-upgrade did it, afaict
[17:04] <enigma9o7> What leads you to this belief?
[17:05] <jelly> output of systemctl status NetworkManager showing it being stopped during do-release-upgrade
[17:05] <samsam> try and connect it to ethernet
[17:06] <jelly> there is no wired ethernet.  My question is how to configure wifi with whatever's available in this state
[17:06] <enigma9o7> That won't do much if NetworkManager is stopped.
[17:07] <jelly> well I know how to configure an eth0 manually, I just don't have a wire
[17:07] <samsam> the NetworkManager service is masked
[17:07] <samsam> systemctl status NetworkManager
[17:07] <jelly> yes, that's how I found out it was masked
[17:07] <samsam> you can Un mask it with sudo systemctl unmask NetworkManager
[17:07] <enigma9o7> I would imagine if it disabled wifi/network manager, it's because it's not needed, so I wouldn't worry about it.
[17:08] <jelly> it's KINDA needed if you want snap to work.  Also I was logged in via ssh, but eh
[17:08] <jelly> now I'm logged in at the console and resumed the screen session
[17:09] <samsam> if you're logged in with ssh and you aren't connected with ethernet then you are able to get some kind of network connection
[17:09] <jelly> presumably the process disabled N-M for a reason (netplan?  networkd?  I have no idea what 24.04 uses for network yet)
[17:10] <jelly> I logged in at the console after noticing the network went down
[17:10] <samsam> I'm not sure either, but did you already try to unmask it and restart network manager?
[17:10] <samsam> additionally, have you tried turning off and back on again?
[17:10] <jelly> samsam, that's plan B, but why did do-release-upgrade stop and mask it and remove nmcli?
[17:11] <jelly> do you know what's supposed to be the current way to configure network in 24.04?
[17:12] <samsam> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and later versions use Netplan to configure networking. When upgrading from a version that used ifupdown or NetworkManager
[17:14] <jelly> okay, how to bring wifi back up with netplan?
[17:15] <jelly> /etc/netplan is empty
[17:15] <samsam> is it Ubuntu server or Ubuntu desktop
[17:16] <jelly> laptop
[17:17] <samsam> so I'm assuming you're running Ubuntu desktop because they use different network managers
[17:17] <jelly> sure
[17:17] <elSmith> Here are some examples: https://netplan.readthedocs.io/en/0.105/examples.html
[17:17] <jelly> If you tell me a command that figures out whether it's a desktop or server install I can run it if it matters
[17:18] <jelly> presumably it's a "desktop" if that means "workstation"
[17:18] <samsam> do you have a gui
[17:18] <jelly> no
[17:18] <samsam> can you navigate to a web browser?
[17:18] <jelly> correction: it's a laptop, there's a GUI installed, it's just not running right now
[17:19] <elSmith> sudo find / -name *.yaml
[17:20] <jelly> and -xdev I presume?
[17:20] <samsam> would you rather try and use netplan or switch back to network manager
[17:21] <jelly> I would rather not disrupt the still running do-release-upgrade
[17:21] <jelly> which presumably disabled N-M for a reason
[17:22] <samsam> it didn't disable it for no reason, from what I can tell it is changing it from network manager to netplan because its updated
[17:22] <ravage> fastest solution is to plugin a cable
[17:22] <ravage> and fix wifi after the upgrade
[17:22] <samsam> as in the operating system
[17:22] <samsam> yes that is the best solution
[17:25] <jelly> that requires moving physically to the router in the attic.  There are spiders.  But that's not pertinent to #ubuntu, I'll type in a netplan file and try applying it
[17:25] <elSmith> Your best option is to head to McDonalds and buy that cup of coffee for the free wifi
[17:26] <jelly> I'd still need to type in the wifi config, just for a different AP :-)
[17:26] <jelly> find found some examples in /usr/share/doc/netplan/examples/
[17:33] <jelly> typed in a wifi yaml with renderer: networkd, that worked
[17:36] <samsam> hello, did you  love your probelm
[17:36] <jelly> and answered "Retry" to what looks like thunderbird's package question about retrying download of the snap
[17:36] <jelly> I love almost all my tech problems
[17:37] <jelly> but also solved
[17:37] <samsam> what do you mean
[17:37] <jelly> <samsam> hello, did you  love your probelm
[17:37] <samsam> also what is the end goal here
[17:38] <jelly> running do-release-upgrade successfully to the end, and using 24.04 on the laptop
[17:38] <samsam> restart the computer
[17:38] <samsam> it'll solve 90% of your probelms
[17:39] <jelly> in the middle of the do-release-upgrade?
[17:40] <jelly> that does not sound like sound advice, sorry
[17:41] <samsam> you're right, what is version are you currently running and what do you see on your screen
[17:42] <samsam> try sudo do-release-upgrade -d to get the latest release forcefully
[17:49] <jelly> do-release-upgrade is still running
[17:50] <samsam> do control c
[17:50] <samsam> and then restart it
[17:50] <jelly> why would I stop it, it's doing its thing?
[17:51] <ravage> just finish the upgrade 🙂
[17:51] <samsam> I think the upgrade cant be finished because the network manager got disabled or swiched
[17:52] <ravage> jelly said its running
[17:52] <ravage> so dont tell him to cancel it
[17:52] <ravage> no reason to
[17:52] <jelly> samsam, you were away for a bit: I managed to get network running, the thunderbind package THANKFULLY didn't break on first try but asked me to Retry downloading the snap.  That worked after configuring the network, and do-release-upgrade continues running
[17:53] <samsam> okay so what's your current issue?
[17:53] <jelly> there is none
[17:53] <samsam> oh
[17:53] <samsam> ok :]
[17:54] <jelly> you asked if I loved my problem.  I answered I did love it, and also solved it.
[17:54] <jelly> it remains solved
[17:57] <samsam> oh
[17:57] <samsam> no I meant solve
[17:57] <samsam> not love
[17:58] <samsam> my bad
[18:09] <jelly> *** initramfs.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? y one of these days I need to move that MODULES=dep into conf.d/
[18:12] <samsam> use the mv command
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[18:19] <jelly> ooh, there's a memtest+ that works for UEFI now
[18:24] <jelly> do-release-upgrade finished mostly successfully, thanks to all who helped!  gdm/lightdm/whateverdm is not starting post reboot but I can deal with that later.
[18:29] <samsam> use systemctl
[18:34] <jelly> hmm, none of the *dm packages is installed
[18:34] <jelly> s/is/are/
[18:35] <ravage> if this is a regular Ubuntu Desktop system try: sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[18:36] <samsam> or be cool and install kde plasma
[18:36] <jelly> I had both installed I think
[18:36] <Milencho> Hey guys, what could be the reason for wifi pci-express card to be unavaibale , im using only network manager, no wpa supplicants no netplan
[18:37] <Milencho> just to gimme a hint where to dig in
[18:37] <kuka_lie> lspci
[18:37] <jelly> Milencho, is it visible in lspci?
[18:37] <jelly> use lspci -nn to show us the PCI-id [xxxx:xxxx] number
[18:37] <Milencho> 4:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6E(802.11ax) AX210/AX1675* 2x2 [Typhoon Peak] (rev 1a)
[18:38] <jelly> you forgot -nn
[18:38] <samsam> try and install the reivers
[18:38] <samsam> drivers
[18:39] <jelly> 00:14.3 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Cannon Point-LP CNVi [Wireless-AC] --> [8086:9df0] <-- this bit determines the driver used
[18:39] <Milencho> 04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6E(802.11ax) AX210/AX1675* 2x2 [Typhoon Peak] [8086:2725] (rev 1a)
[18:40] <Milencho> sorry i was looking in dmseg
[18:40] <jelly> that's the usual iwlwifi driver
[18:40] <Milencho> yup
[18:41] <Milencho>  8.401868] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: WRT: Invalid buffer destination
[18:41] <Milencho> this is the only row that i'm able to find with some invalid/error
[18:41] <samsam> is it installed
[18:42] <samsam> the driver
[18:43] <Milencho> wlwifi               598016  1 iwlmvm
[18:43] <Milencho> cfg80211             1323008  3 iwlmvm,iwlwifi,mac80211
[18:43] <jelly> samsam, that driver exists even on my old 20.04 other laptop
[18:43] <Milencho> driver looks to be installed/loaded
[18:44] <Milencho> trying to figure out what could be the reason (last 1/2 hours :(
[18:44] <samsam> try uninstalling and then re installing it
[18:44] <Milencho> chatgpt is also out of hints
[18:44] <jelly> Milencho, eh.  are you able to pastebin the whole dmesg?
[18:44] <Milencho> jelly, yup u want whole dmsg
[18:45] <Milencho> gimme a min
[18:45] <jelly> yes, maybe there's some sort of clue
[18:45] <jelly> Milencho, it isn't a horribly old Ubuntu release or kernel version?
[18:45] <samsam> Milencho10 chat gpt is so real
[18:46] <samsam> Milencho chat gpt is so real
[18:48] <Milencho> jelly, 24.04
[18:48] <Milencho> 6.8 kernel
[18:48] <Milencho> pretty much up to date
[18:48] <jelly> an AX210 ought to work, that's not too new a card
[18:48] <Milencho> jelly,  https://pastebin.com/8K0QXGQt
[18:49] <jelly> I really meant the whole dmesg
[18:49] <Milencho> jelly, yup i read a comments that intel is fine for linux driver and bought it before months but didn't use it
[18:50] <Milencho> https://dpaste.com/B9CY5JEN5
[18:52] <samsam> why does unbuntu not install on my laptop but debian does
[18:54] <cake> Any error messages?
[18:59] <Milencho> jelly, any suggestions, do you think plug out/in from pci slot could help
[19:00] <Milencho> just shooting in the dark not sure what else tocheck
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[19:04] <EnergeticFlux> Has anyone successfully installed self-hosted Landscape? I have a package from it that always fails, so I want to make sure it's not just me.
[19:05] <Milencho> i will try to plug out/in
[19:05] <jelly> Milencho, unlikely, it looks detected well
[19:22] <Milencho> jelly, tried to change the slot , turn back to previous one and nothing
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[19:52] <Apachez> update for xdiagnose seems broken: https://pastebin.com/mrqHSDDD
[19:53] <JanC> Apachez: yes, I've seen that before; best file a bug report
[20:58] <blinux> Hi, I just tried Ubuntu Mate and was very surprised to find that after installation the wired ethernet did not work, though it worked during live installation. I did some checking and I read multiple reports of wired ethernet not working with Ubuntu server as well as desktop at various time over the years in ways that were very unusual.
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