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| sigma_ | hi guys | 00:28 |
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| serval | dead chat xd | 00:28 |
| dennis_ | I plug in an SD card, and see nothing when I'm running tail -f /var/log/kern.log. Am I missing something? | 01:20 |
| ridho_01 | hi, what is partial upgrade on ubuntu, do i have to try it ? | 01:20 |
| dennis_ | Could be the card's junk, but it worked on another one (me trying to see where it was - /dev/sdd) | 01:21 |
| dennis_ | Trying to fix a guy's Ubuntu box for him. Man, GNOME3 is weird. I'm used to Cinnamon (well, and GNOME2) | 01:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | ridho_01: A partial upgrade happens when one more software packages on your machine are not compatible with an updated package available from the software repo. This often happens because of 3rd part repositories, or pinning a version of a package so it does not upgrade. It can also happen is a previous update failed to install properly. Ideally you will want to find out what package is causing the error and resolve it. | 01:29 |
| pragmaticenigma | dennis_: lsblk is probably going to be more informative about whether or not the machine recognizes the storage device. | 01:30 |
| tomreyn | dennis_: does kern-log have recent records,though? if not, maybe you'll be better served with journalctl -f or (Gnome) "Logs". udevadm monitor may also help if the sd card isn't detected properly. | 01:39 |
| tomreyn | those will usually show up as /dev/mmc... devices | 01:40 |
| dennis_ | tomreyn, I see one show up in kern.log (/dev/sdd) but not the other one. That's why I'm wondering if it's just hosed. | 01:54 |
| tomreyn | dennis_: not all card readers will work, or work out of the box. if it's an external one (on a usb port), try connecting it to a different usb port | 01:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | Also, if you're using any MicroSD to SD Card adapter, make sure its is compatible as well. | 01:58 |
| dennis_ | tomreyn, They're identical cards (brand/size) - it's just weird. | 01:59 |
| tomreyn | if this card works on another computer then it isn't generally broken, i guess. but i don't have an explanation either. | 02:00 |
| pragmaticenigma | I've had that happen. Running the card through something like this utility has resolved issues (assuming it can be picked up by the tool) https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/sd-memory-card-formatter-for-linux/sd-memory-card-formatter-for-linux-x86-64-download/ | 02:01 |
| dennis_ | I've got both cards, sticking them in the same slot. It's just weird that that one shows up in /dev/ and the other doesn't | 02:04 |
| tomreyn | dennis_: you wrote that the card that isn't detected on this ubuntu system "worked on another one (me trying to see where it was - /dev/sdd)", which i think is why pragmaticenigma suggested you could try that software on the other computer where the card is detected. | 02:08 |
| tomreyn | because doing so might make it work on the ubuntu system it's not currently being detected on again. | 02:08 |
| tomreyn | (i have no experience with said software myself) | 02:09 |
| pragmaticenigma | I probably should have posted the link to its introduction tomreyn and dennis_ : https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/sd-memory-card-formatter-for-linux/ | 02:11 |
| dennis_ | Ahh, it showed up eventually. I misspoke earlier I guess - It wasn't showing up. Running fsk now that I know where it is (and it's the same issue as the other one - wasn't unmounted right) | 02:12 |
| dennis_ | fsck | 02:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | ouch, yeah, always unmount your portable disks! | 02:13 |
| tomreyn | pragmaticenigma: i guess i'm more worried about lack of source code for this software. | 02:13 |
| dennis_ | Not my fault! I swear! I'm fixing this Dennis guy's box. | 02:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | tomreyn: can understand the hesitation. Not sure if source or an opensource version exists. since it's SD Association, and a company pays them for the specifications and license to use the SD Card logos and marks. | 02:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | really it's something I have used when cards are unresponsive. One of its features is the restoration of the protected storage area of the card. Something other tools cannot perform | 02:17 |
| tomreyn | i mean, if no block device is detected by the kernel, i don't see how a user space application could fix it, unless it somehow finds a way to make the kernel detect the device, or can talk to it directly on usb somehow. | 02:18 |
| tomreyn | but apparently dennis_ did have it show up on dmesg after all, and a block device name was assigned, so the (partition table /) file system became accessible | 02:19 |
| tomreyn | good to know that there is a tool which can fix the protected storage area if standard tooling can't do that | 02:21 |
| pragmaticenigma | it does require root, but it does make use of the block device being listed in /dev ... so not really anything magical about scanning the busses for an errant card | 02:23 |
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| tomreyn | i see | 02:28 |
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| tomreyn | Arrrrth: please fix your script if that's a script. | 02:29 |
| xxy | my docker can't work in ubuntu24.04, https://paste.centos.org/view/6247f72f, | 03:08 |
| connstruct | One assumes your http proxy isn't actually proxy.example.com | 03:11 |
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| smallville7123 | why cant i create a / directory in sbuild ? | 07:58 |
| smallville7123 | + whoami | 08:10 |
| smallville7123 | root | 08:10 |
| smallville7123 | + mkdir -p /usr/local/dir | 08:10 |
| smallville7123 | mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/usr/local/dir’: Permission denied | 08:10 |
| tomreyn | your system log may have more info | 08:12 |
| smallville7123 | apparently i need to use sodo tho that gives ld.so cant be found by fakeroot | 08:19 |
| smallville7123 | sudo* | 08:19 |
| smallville7123 | also for some reason pkg-config cannot find libarchive and gpgme-tool | 08:20 |
| smallville7123 | how do i get the Build-Depends to be processed before debian/rules | 08:47 |
| tomreyn | there are some debian packaging related channels on OFTC | 08:50 |
| tomreyn | also #ubuntu-devel (though that's more for coordination, not a packaging support forum) and lists.ubuntu.com mailing lists (and similar for debian). | 08:51 |
| tomreyn | there's also http://packaging.ubuntu.com | 08:52 |
| smallville7123 | imma just manually install the packages via debian/rules sudo apt install | 08:53 |
| smallville7123 | and sudo mkdir gives ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored. | 08:53 |
| smallville7123 | i just wanna build an installable .deb package | 08:54 |
| mgedmin | `debuild -i -uc -us -b` always worked for me | 08:56 |
| MaNa2k | so what pkg manager is best for ubuntu server? i use snap and apt sometimes, is there any other that is better | 10:01 |
| smallville7123 | hmm how do i specify a debian/rules which uses a build-install.sh script to build and install a package | 10:06 |
| smallville7123 | as debuild invokes rules clean rules build rules binary | 10:07 |
| tomreyn | MaNa2k: apt is fine for the most part, and snap for snaps. most of th etime that's all you'll ever need (unless you need one of the programming / scripting language specific tooling in case you want to build software or need newer versions of something) | 10:09 |
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| MaNa2k | mhm | 10:18 |
| MaNa2k | tomreyn: oki, thanks | 10:18 |
| MaNa2k | im still a beginner in linux world | 10:19 |
| tomreyn | that's fine, we've all been that at some point :) | 10:20 |
| tomreyn | and others here are new, too | 10:21 |
| MaNa2k | so far, i have successfully hosted my own api and exposed it to internet using cloudflares tunnels, without having to do any port forwarding or messing around with firewall. | 10:24 |
| MaNa2k | i need a domain though, which i got really cheap one | 10:24 |
| MaNa2k | i needed* | 10:25 |
| MaNa2k | but i hear that its still not safe, because cloudflare if they wanted can see the traffic in the tunnel since its not secured. while the traffic between cloudflare and internet is secure | 10:26 |
| MaNa2k | so, i need to learn about firewalls and secure my traffic somehow | 10:26 |
| mgedmin | is it an http api? if so, learn about letsencrypt and certbot | 10:52 |
| mgedmin | to secure the connection between cloudflare and your server | 10:52 |
| mgedmin | a firewall is not going to be very helpful here | 10:53 |
| tomreyn | and while i agree this can be a useful learning path, it won't prevent cloudflare from snooping on your data either, because there is no end to end encryption, they remain in the middle. | 10:54 |
| tomreyn | hosting services on the internet and through CDNs is less of an #ubuntu support topic, though, maybe you'll be better served in channels such as #networking and #cloudflare (if that exists) | 10:55 |
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| smallville7123 | hmm | 11:37 |
| smallville7123 | i created a proper debian/rules but it doesnt seem to get called | 11:37 |
| smallville7123 | and dh_assistant complains that it is not a proper source directory | 11:38 |
| smallville7123 | eg dpkg-genbuildinfo: error: binary build with no binary artifacts found; .buildinfo is meaningless | 11:45 |
| MaNa2k | mgedmin: sorry, was away, no, you will see it as https api | 11:48 |
| MaNa2k | mgedmin: thanks, will check out letsencrypt and certbot, hope its free\opensource stuff | 11:49 |
| MaNa2k | tomreyn: thnx for the channel links | 11:50 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:20 |
| Guest56 | Hello everyone, | 13:28 |
| Guest56 | Do you know how to prevent the contents of the home folder from appearing on the screen? | 13:28 |
| mgedmin | System Preferences -> Ubuntu Desktop -> turn off Desktop icons | 13:30 |
| mgedmin | (also it's a bit weird that the contents of the _home folder_ itself show up, and not ~/Desktop, for whatever localized translation of 'Desktop' was set up by the installer) | 13:31 |
| mgedmin | (maybe your ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs specifies XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME"?) | 13:32 |
| Guest56 | Yes, indeed it did specify $HOME. | 13:40 |
| Guest56 | I removed the Desktop folder so I guess it was why it was showing the home folder instead. | 13:40 |
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| realivanjx | finally https://files.catbox.moe/77nkqx.png | 13:57 |
| deadrom | hi. | 14:30 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome deadrom | 14:30 |
| deadrom | what's the security policy on backports with ubuntu? on debian used to be "no sec updates, use at own risk", at least a while back | 14:31 |
| pragmaticenigma | deadrom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports | 14:32 |
| pragmaticenigma | deadrom: if I'm understanding that page correctly, it's a policy of security updates are not guaranteed. | 14:33 |
| deadrom | which is at least about what I expected, thanks | 14:34 |
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| sigma_chad | yooo | 15:39 |
| FKAShinobi | I'm using ubuntu 22.04 and often the desktop does not lock after being idle. Are there applications that would cause the desktop not to lock? | 15:46 |
| sigma_chad | peace | 15:54 |
| pragmaticenigma | FKAShinobi: most common for me is any application that has video playback. even firefox can interpret a video advertisement to set the stay awake flag. | 15:55 |
| pragmaticenigma | firefox -> any web browser | 15:56 |
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| deadrom | FKAShinobi anything that generates fake key events, too. stw "how to monitor key events" might yield something | 16:21 |
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| soho | hi | 17:39 |
| kmikita | Does ext4 feature "64bit" affect anything than the maximum block number? | 17:44 |
| eLdr1ch | hello is possible someone to help me to decode something | 17:46 |
| lotuspsychje | the volunteers usualy focus on ubuntu support issues here eLdr1ch | 17:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | kmikita: Do you have a specific reason for looking at that feature? Documentation indicates that one of its uses is for data integrity checksums. | 18:00 |
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| kmikita | pragmaticenigma, if "64bit" related to checksums then reason to leave -O 64bit default? | 18:39 |
| kmikita | I do not need a partition >16TB, but I want to make ext4 work as efficiently as possible. | 18:41 |
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| pragmaticenigma | kmikita: that's not an efficiency tweak | 18:50 |
| kmikita | pragmaticenigma, just leave 64bit feature? There is no benefit in extra space or performance? | 19:33 |
| pragmaticenigma | kmikita: if you are looking for file system performance, look at other filesystems. the options provided are specific to implementations needed for specific use cases, they're there for compatibility, not performance | 19:38 |
| pragmaticenigma | kmikita: filesystem performance comes from the ability of the filesystem to efficiently store and index the files stored in the file system | 19:39 |
| kmikita | pragmaticenigma, thanks for the answer. ext4 is good for me. I wanted to refine the minor details. :) | 19:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | kmikita: if you want some tweaks, look at disabling access time updates (noatime) | 19:43 |
| pragmaticenigma | kmikita: another idea would be to setup filesystem journaling to a secondary device | 19:44 |
| kmikita | pragmaticenigma, noatime,lazytime,data=writeback,commit=60 already in use | 19:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | kmikita: looks like a good plan. the only thing would be the journaling on a secondary device idea, but that would require a separate storage device | 19:51 |
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| kmikita | pragmaticenigma, thanks. I will take a look at journaling tweaks. Backup and storing journal on SSD look tempting. | 19:57 |
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| lubuntu | l | 21:38 |
| lubuntu | lkkk | 21:38 |
| kut | er | 21:44 |
| nick_ | I know this is Ubuntu but if I have Mint 22 and the kernel is 6.8, will it update itself when it expires? | 22:31 |
| pragmaticenigma | nick_: Only a Linux Mint support channel can answer that. That is a very specific question to Linux Mint | 22:32 |
| enigma9o7 | No. Once its expired, you must throw it away. | 22:32 |
| enigma9o7 | Well, we could assume that no kernel updates itself, and we could assume that expiration is an odd term to apply to kernels and assume it's non applicable. | 22:33 |
| enigma9o7 | But I guess that would just end up making an ass out of me. | 22:34 |
| enigma9o7 | But, if its anything like milk, once that expiration date passes, you're taking a risk putting it on your cereal before giving it the ole smell test. | 22:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | enigma9o7: please stop | 22:35 |
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