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ravagesudo apt update00:00
ravagesudo apt full-upgrade00:00
ravagesee if that shows any errors00:00
CeeClearErrors were encountered while processing:00:02
CeeClear google-chrome-stable00:02
CeeClear firefox00:02
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ravagegoogle-chrome-stable is not a supported package00:02
ravagewhich Ubuntu version is this00:02
CeeClearAlso have this error Message E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)00:03
ravagecat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 999900:04
ravagepaste the URL that this command outputs00:04
CeeClearhttps://termbin.com/xevm00:05
ravagekeep in mind that you have to upgrade your system until April 202500:06
ravagecan you pastebin the output of the full-upgrade command?00:07
ravageyou can use https://dpaste.com/ for example00:07
ravagedo the same with the output of "sudo apt update"00:07
CeeClearhttps://pastebin.com/RAQjVnbG00:08
ravageok so both packages come from external sources that are not supported here00:09
CeeClearwould i have to delete and reinstall them or another option ??00:10
ravageyou can try to remove them yes00:10
ravageoh i think firefox may actually be the ubuntu one00:10
ravagedo you use mozilla vpn?00:10
CeeClearyes00:10
ravage1 sec00:11
ravagesudo update-alternatives --remove-all x-www-browser00:15
ravagesudo rm -f /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser00:15
ravagesudo apt -f install00:15
ravagesee if that fixes your problem00:16
CeeClearSo the first message is : update-alternatives: error: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-www-browser corrupt: line not terminated while trying to read status00:17
ravageok continue then00:17
CeeClearshould i just run the rest of commands or back to square 1 ???00:17
ravageno do the other commands too00:17
CeeClearresults of running all the commands00:19
CeeClearhttps://pastebin.com/B3z7AG1z00:19
ravageok some things are really broken here00:20
ravagesudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/gnome-www-browser00:20
ravagesudo apt -f install00:20
CeeClearand the results00:22
CeeClearhttps://pastebin.com/B10ZJkKr00:22
ravagedid you run the first command too?00:23
CeeClearyes. let me just redo it to  make sure00:23
ravageyou missed the r there last time00:25
CeeClearahhh !!!00:25
CeeCleardifferent output this time https://pastebin.com/q9vQxzt900:26
ravageok sounds good00:27
ravagei think we are done here 🙂00:27
CeeClearlet me restart my computer and see if the changes took. Thank you for your help00:27
ravagenp00:27
raj_Following these instructions: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview I used Rufus to setup a 5.7 GB Ubuntu ISO onto a USB drive using FAT32, however at the end of the process, it gave some general error and now no matter what I do it just says the usb drive has no space00:41
ravagetry https://www.balena.io/etcher00:41
leftyfbraj_: don't use rufus00:41
raj_I tried usuing the etcher one too, but now that the USB drive is ruined I can't seem to do anything with it00:42
leftyfbuse etcher, as per the link you posted "For most users we recommend balenaEtcher instead of Rufus which is simpler to use and also available on MacOS and Ubuntu."00:42
raj_leftyfb ya but I read that after I already did this, and now balenaEtcher doesn't work on this usb drive anymore, nothing seems to work on this drive anymore00:43
leftyfbdefine "doesn't work"00:43
raj_it keeps saying out of space, or write-protected, depending on the context00:44
leftyfbraj_: maybe reboot and try it again. At this point though, you'll want to seek help in #windows or etcher support00:45
raj_using diskpart and attributes disk clear readonly, doesn't work either00:46
raj_leftyfb, oh you think this is windows related? I thought it was more related to the FAT32 format type I selected in Rufus + using a Ubuntu ISO file that's 5.7 GB00:47
leftyfbraj_: properly writing an iso to a usb flash drive has nothing to do with the format of the drive before writing. It all gets wiped anyway so it doesn't matter00:48
leftyfbraj_: I would seek support from #windows or maybe #hardware. At the moment it's unrelated to Ubuntu00:49
raj_I meant the format I chose on rufus, which was fat3200:49
raj_ok00:49
raj_thanks00:49
leftyfbdon't use rufus00:49
connstructleftyfb: for what?01:03
jcd800824wow03:17
alch3misthey, my upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 didn't go as planned, apparently the upgrade is broken. I wanted to see if there is a way that I can back up my settings, apps, and configurations I already made in 22.04 before wiping the drive? I already backed up my /home so I guess I'm good there. I just want to see what from / should I back up?03:45
karenw /etc is where any system-wide config will be stored, if you changed it.03:46
alch3mistand would be advisable to copy /etc back into my fresh install?03:47
hellohaI just put a second SSD into my computer and want to install ubuntu to it. When I go into the Ubuntu Installer (usb drive) it asks if I want to install ubuntu alongside windows boot manager, will this put grub bootloader on the blank ssd drive as well and leave the SSD with windows 11 (and the windows boot loader) on it untouched?03:49
karenwalch3mist: No! You want it for reference, it shouldn't just be copied in it's entirety to a system running a different OS version.03:51
alch3mistthanks karenw, how about the packages I had installed? where can I find those?03:52
karenwhelloha: That is a difficult question that depends on your firmware. The two word answer is "probabally not".03:52
alch3mistI see there is a /snap directory so I assume I can keep that for my snap packages, but how about the deb ones?03:52
alch3mistalso my gnome extensions03:53
karenw /var/lib/dpkg/status apparently is where you'll find the full list of packages on your system. But it you are recovering from a borked distribution upgrade it might not be useful.03:55
karenwIt's also a bit of a "drinking from the firehose" type of information dump that is only technically human readable.03:56
alch3mistthanks, What really bugged me what having to reconfigure gnome and vscode to my liking again03:56
alch3mistwas having*03:56
Bashing-omalch3mist: migrating installed packages: see in terminal ' apt show debfoster ' .03:56
alch3mistBashing-om, I can't log into the broken installation anymore, right now I'm on a live media and not sure how I can run that command to see my other system's packages03:58
hellohathanks karenw, so essentially I must choose the manual installation?04:01
hellohaor erase disk and install ubuntu04:02
hellohaI wasn't sure which disk it wanted to erase lol04:02
karenwIt probabally wouldn't erase Windows. But it probabally will install the bootloader to the first drive OR change the firmware to boot from the second drive first. So taking the disk back out would leave you with a potentially broken system.04:04
karenwAnd while I could probabally get myself personally out of that state without destroying anything, I wouldn't recommend it.04:04
hellohathank you karenw, I'll do the custom route then04:14
bray90820So I created a desktop file for audacity but every time I run it it creates an audacity-url-handler.desktop file and opens it in a second icon on my dock04:24
bray90820a desktop file for the appimage04:24
ravagehttps://snapcraft.io/audacity04:29
ravageI can ask Lucy if she could look into updating the version04:33
bray90820ravage: Talking to me?04:55
markushttps://lore.kernel.org/linux-usb/03c1ae453f2781dbcf3a5ea607640c696b748848.camel@sundtek.de/T/#ma648299ca30af92859f1dc050b33ae292ba27fae05:21
markusthis patch should go into Ubuntu ASAP05:21
markusnot sure if a bugreport at launchpad would pipe this issue to the correct person immediately, maybe someone else from the ubuntu team should forward that05:23
markusit's about the USB problem which can crash the entire system05:24
markusthis will solve the problem where it happens, a detailed discussion about the code path is still ongoing (in my opinion this function should not be called in case of an error, and not just check the data structure)05:25
raj_can I use virtualbox to use my 2nd SSD which has ubuntu installed on it (otherwise accessed by booting the computer to it)05:31
markusit should be possible I did something similar recently05:32
raj_can I use virtualbox (installed on windows 11) to use my 2nd SSD which has ubuntu installed on it (otherwise accessed by booting the computer to it)05:32
raj_markus no corruption concerns or anything, right?05:32
markusyou will find 2 different posts out there, one group claiming it's not possible but there are also other ones which made it work05:32
markusit worked for me05:32
raj_any guide you can recommend?05:33
markusI did that a few weeks ago ... no idea about the documentation anymore sorry05:34
raj_gotcha, np05:34
markusbut you have to create a VM and link the physical device node with it05:34
raj_markus, it was vbox that you used too?05:35
markusyes05:35
markusI know someone mentioned on a post that it's not possible, just ignore that particular post (you'll possibly get around the same one when searching for it)05:36
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HiryuIs it possible to automatically sign custom kernels for secure boot in Ubuntu?06:00
oerheksyes, an extensive howto https://github.com/berglh/ubuntu-sb-kernel-signing06:02
Hiryuthanks!06:02
oerheksofficial https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-to-sign-things-for-secure-boot06:02
Hiryuokay, so this isn't built-in it looks like?06:03
oerheksnope06:03
oerhekswhy building your own?06:03
HiryuIt's a bit of a hobby and something I've been doing since the 90s. Also keeps me updated on newer features06:04
oerheksoh oke, yes it is fun06:04
HiryuI just thought i was doing something wrong... maybe missing kernel options06:04
HiryuI was for module signing :D06:04
oerheksyes, you need to do both06:04
Hiryunow it seems the modules are being signed, just not the kernel06:04
raj_markus, when I try to create the .vmdk it says that the disk is in use06:08
plaisthosGoogle search is failing me since my search term give me a ton of old guides but what the new way with ubuntu.sources (isntead of sources.list) to enable deb-src?06:09
oerheksin the update gui, there is an option to enable deb-src, manually delete the '#' at the beginning of the deb-src line06:13
oerheksthere is no apt-add-repository command for the sourcecode IIRC06:14
plaisthosoerheks: there are no deb-src lines anymore in my ubuntu.sources06:15
plaisthosAnd there is no gui on that machine :)06:15
oerheksoh oke, no worries, there is a hidden copy >> /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list06:15
plaisthosI know that there used to be deb-src lines but this new file format of 24.10 is different06:15
oerhekscopy that back, and enable universe again, that is disabled06:16
oerheksoh, different?06:16
oerheksi am still on 24.04 and 22.04 ..06:16
plaisthosyeah06:16
plaisthoshttps://gist.github.com/schwabe/49b480d018afee01f27dff9ddb142c0b06:16
Bashing-omplaisthos: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec-apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 - at the top is an example to enable -src.06:16
plaisthosBashing-om: thanks, that is what I was looking for06:17
* oerheks reading...06:17
Hiryuoerheks: Wow... It actually worked on the first try! I'm running my custom kernel with secure boot on. Thanks!06:18
oerheks!yay06:19
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)06:19
oerhekshave fun!06:19
HiryuAlso glad I'm not the only one who has fun with custom kernels :D06:19
plaisthosyeah I did need deb-src stuff since I wanted to know how long building an ubuntu kernel would tkae on that machine06:21
HiryuI remember doing a custom kernel compile on a 50 MHz 32-bit SPARC back in the day... took around 8 hours IIRC06:22
plaisthosI hope this machine is faster :P06:22
Hiryuthis was in 1999 so it was a 2.2 series kernel06:22
plaisthosbut compiling a really custom kernel with a small set of modules is a lot of faster than a fat Ubuntu kernel with a ton of modules enabled06:23
Hiryu_yes_06:23
HiryuI strip down my kernels to just what I need06:23
Hiryuwith the 2.2 series, this took around 20-25 minutes. With 2.4, it took around 45 minutes... With modern kernels... it takes a lot longer06:23
plaisthosit is not using all cores to compile with the debian/rules for some reason06:23
Hiryuhow are you building?06:24
oerheksHiryu, now build firefox .. just joking06:24
plaisthosbasically this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel06:24
HiryuI used kernel-package for a very long time, but finally in the last few years, I switched to "make -j$(nproc) bindeb-pkg"06:24
plaisthosrunning currently fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic binary-perarch06:24
Hiryuoerheks: I build firefox semi regularly under FreeBSD. It's either around 10 minutes or 20 minutes... I actually forgot which06:25
Hiryuthe one that was really brutal was building OpenOffice06:25
Hiryubut I haven't built that in many years06:25
plaisthosaccording to top it uses around 30% CPU and most of the cores are idle %)06:26
Hiryuplaisthos: never tried it that way. But you can customize your kernel and run "make -j$(nproc) bindeb-pkg", probably more straight forward06:26
plaisthosI think it is already using nproc06:27
Hiryuhmm06:27
plaisthosThe box might be running into some other bottleneck or the kernel build script is not good at parallesing06:30
plaisthos*shrug*06:30
plaisthosIt might need more the -j64 for this system06:32
plaisthosfrom a official kernel make -j64 bindeb-pkg gets a lot lot lot closer to 100% CPU usage06:41
plaisthosnot sure what the ubuntu package screws up there06:42
oerheksso make -j$(nproc) does not take 64 cores?06:45
Hiryuplastikman: it still builds a proper debianized kernel package. I've found I only need the linux-image and linux-headers package06:45
Hiryus06:45
zphinxis there any particular reason why everything in 22.04 except wifi comes as unmanaged in 22.04?07:20
tomreynzphinx: not per se. if this is a desktop installation, everything would be managed by network-manager by default. share some logs on a pastebin where suitable.07:25
zphinxtomreyn: i've fixed it already ,it was more of a general question, all our interfaces except wifi was coming up as unmanaged on our desktop installations, which had the managed=false in it. Along with 10-globally-managed-devices.conf 10-globally-managed-devices.conf having unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:gsm,except:type:cdma in it07:27
zphinxthe fix was managed = true, touch unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:gsm,except:type:cdma && systemctl restart NetworkManager07:28
tomreynzphinx: hmm, so maybe i was wrong in my assumption on defaults and ethernet isn't brought up automatically on desktops by default. or it's a local customization you have there.07:32
tomreynanyways, glad you sorted it.07:32
zphinxyeah, maybe there's some reasoning behind it, and yes, its a local company custom built iso, but we dont touch on network settings. It is however a server iso with ubuntu-desktop added into the autoinstall, so maybe thats why07:34
mgedminserver probably wants systemd-networkd for wired interfaces07:36
zphinxyeah, that makes sense07:37
mgedminbut hmm, I'm on 24.10 desktop, and the network-manager packages ships a /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf that is like you said07:37
mgedminunmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi...07:37
zphinxrecommeded way of autoinstalling an ubuntu-desktop prior to 24.04 is taking the sever image and adding anything you need ontop though07:38
mgedminthis change was made in 1.48.8-1ubuntu1 in oracular, according to apt changelog network-manager07:40
mgedminlooks like part of a whole bunch of netplan-related changes07:40
tomreyni guess having both ethernet and wireless brought up automatically could irritate folks who have both, and maybe seem counter intuitive07:41
mgedmin"drop in an empty override file for NetworkManager to manage all devices for upgrade from any version, as long as there is no netplan configuration yet."07:41
mgedminI think the desktop installer creates a default netplan .yml that tells network-manager to manage everything (including wired interfaces)07:42
mgedminso 10-globally-managed-devices.conf is probably to allow sysadmins to disable ethernet interfaces by editing netplan YAMLs07:43
zphinxi first noticed the issue when i brought the work machine home ( im on the linux team, we are supposed to drink our own poison and work exclusively from the client we create and maintain )07:43
mgedminwithout having network-manager sneakily auto-enable them07:43
zphinxThen my isp took a dump on me, and i tried connecting my phone to share internet over bluetooth, and the device came up as unmanaged.07:44
mgedminsounds like fun :/07:44
mgedminI don't think I ever plugged in an ethernet cable into my current 5-year-old laptop; when I share my phone's connection, I do so over wifi07:45
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deadromHi. Does the apt format change to deb822 affect the apt-mirror puppet module?09:21
ravagei guess you would need  to ask the module author?09:22
ravagethe system still supports the old format09:22
ravageso if your puppet modules writes it in the old format it still works09:22
deadromravage, thanks, that makes it a copypaste job for now09:52
deadromin ss -ano output, some lines have port numbers without preceeding : , some have it. I can't spot the differnce.09:53
deadromexample: https://pastebin.com/RA9xssaM09:57
mgedminthose are not port numbers10:19
mgedminthe u_str/u_dgr in column 1 indicate that these are unix domain sockets10:20
mgedminthe numbers are probably socket inode numbers, I'm not sure10:20
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mrechttps://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2024-45006 << affects Noble and I stubmled over it.10:51
-ubottu:#ubuntu- In the Linux kernel, the following vulnerability has been resolved: xhci: Fix Panther point NULL pointer deref at full-speed re-enumeration re-enumerating full-speed devices after a failed address device command can trigger a NULL pointer dereference. Full-speed devices may need to reconfigure the endpoint 0 Max Packet Size value during enumeration. Usb core calls usb_ep0_r... <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2024-45006>10:51
mrecit has been resolved but it's not available yet10:51
LP13is ogra_ available ?10:57
tomreynLP13: if you have a support question, just ask it here, please. you're welcome to summarize any previous findings (where relevant) on a pastebin.11:01
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nvmubuntu on a virtual box is not working properly for me . some times it wont even boot and it takes for ever on virtual box in my laptop . where as other os are running fine. Anyone facing the similar kind of issue ?11:34
jlucdefault installed Thunderbird works like shit on a fresh ubuntu 22.04 install11:54
jluci plan to uninstall that default snap and install the deb11:54
sixwheeledbeast22.04? should be a deb IIRC11:54
jlucoups sorry 24.0411:54
sixwheeledbeastyou can use the mozillateam ppa for debs of firefox and tb11:54
jlucmy profiles are not in default profile folder11:55
sixwheeledbeastthey need pinning in apt higher than the snaps tho.11:55
jlucand i'm used to snap being unable to manage files outside of their own small closed spaces11:55
jluc:-/11:56
LP13tomreyn It's about a snap build that take too long 20 minutes, I meet ogra_ at a tech fair and want to share my build11:56
sixwheeledbeastalso which version of tb is this? the debs have just updated from supernova to nebula11:57
tomreynLP13: oh, i see. so he suggested to meet him here, i suppose? yif he offered this, you can actually    /query ogra_    and talk to him directly (don't do it unless he offered it, though).11:57
jlucas for now it's 128.4.3esr (64 bits) and there is a kindof nebula logo11:58
tomreynLP13: other than that, i suggest you just wait until he'll get back to you (be ready to remain connected for a day or two)11:58
tomreynjluc: moving files on the file system is pretty easy and very fast11:59
sixwheeledbeastyer so its the latest then, I don't use the snap version so no idea how well nebula works as snap compared with supernova11:59
jlucwhich files do you mean ?12:00
LP13tomreyn I will stay here and wait thx12:00
jlucmy profiles folders are >50 Go12:00
jlucand moving them and launching a new TB on them appears quite risky12:00
tomreynLP13: there's also the #snappy channel by the way12:01
sixwheeledbeastit's a fresh install so I assume a backup is available?12:01
tomreynjluc: moving files just means updates the information on which directory they are non, no actual data needs to be moved, so that's fast.12:02
jluchttps://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/installing-thunderbird-linux recommends flatpack btw12:02
tomreynjluc: you should have backups for any relevant data12:02
jlucsure12:02
jlucbut when i test the new install, mails are coming, when POP they wont ever come again12:03
sixwheeledbeastPOP :(12:03
jlucso i have to hope that the profile doesnt corrupts12:04
tomreynyou can configure most pop3 clients to not delete the server copy. that includes thunderbird12:04
jlucthere is not enough room on my mail servers for 20 years of mails !12:05
jluclol12:05
jlucmaybe i should get rid of old mails12:06
tomreynwell, youseemed to be talking about newly arriving mail. mail you already downloaded should be part of your backups.12:06
jlucand retire12:06
jlucyes backup for 2 days old mails (and older), at least on previous computer12:07
jlucno backup for new mails continuously arriving12:07
jlucbut they mix : i cannot say "place new mails in that new separate place"12:07
tomreynthis sounds like you need to come up with a better backup strategy.12:10
jlucyes, TB is not a tool for archiving and searching old mails12:11
tomreyni suggest moving old mail (maybe older than 3 or 5 years) out of thunderbird, and compressing it.12:11
jlucis there any nice tool to archive and read and search old mails ?12:12
jlucTB is the best i know of, as for now, but not perfect when reaching more than a dozen of Go of mails and several hundred subfolders12:12
jluci've been thinking of splitting old vs recent mails and create a special TB profile for old mails12:13
jlucbut for me it feels like splitting my brain and entering schizophrenia12:14
jlucso i downloaded TB but there is no readme for install12:18
jlucit looks like a set of execs12:18
jlucalong with .so files12:18
jlucls ;: https://termbin.com/rg6z12:19
jlucyes they are execs12:22
jluclets jump then, uninstall snap and go on these execs12:22
jluc\/usr/bin/thunderbird is a script that tests /snap/bin/thunderbird12:27
jluccreates a .desktop and launches the snap12:27
jluci'll have to wipe it ?12:27
jluccreate a new .desktop also12:28
jlucnope :-/ new TB doesnt read old profiles pfff hope i didnt nuke them12:35
jlucof course i still have saved old mails but lost the last day or 2 days of new mails12:40
jlucis it possibly a flatpack ?12:41
jlucnope it doesnt run with "flatpack run" but plain "thunderbird"12:42
jluccould be an appimage but not with all these .so12:42
* jluc now installing via deb ppa12:48
lnkinhello12:53
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BluesKajHi all13:28
LP13waiting for @ogra_13:29
lotuspsychjeLP13: volunteers already suggested to ask your question here, not everyone is always around here13:29
LP13yes but I want to reach ogra personally because, I meet then at a techfair and want to speak about a problem that we discuss together13:31
leftyfbLP13: https://launchpad.net/~ogra13:32
leftyfbLP13: that's how you reach him. This is'nt the appropriate place.13:33
LP13@lettyfb can't see the email adress because I don't have direct Ubuntu account, can you give it to me ?13:34
lotuspsychjethat link to LP should be public LP1313:37
lotuspsychjeyou need an account to file bugs on LP13:37
JanCthe e-mail address is hidden when you don't log in, but it's not hard to create an account13:38
lotuspsychjeah13:38
leftyfbLP13: signing up for a launchpad account is free and is a useful tool for people who want to be part of ubuntu community. It's also useful is acquiring the information you seek13:38
JanCalso, he has contact info in other places also   :)13:38
semI am looking for help/walkthrough using ubuntu to recover data from a failing harddrive. My google-fu is failing me, but my instinct is I need to image the drive first, and then perform recovery on that. Sound reasonable?13:40
lotuspsychjesem: is it internal or external dying?13:41
semWould ddrescue be the tool for this, and even though the drive is 2TB, can I find out if I need less space than 2 TB to recover the data? -- lotuspsychje it is external 2TB, small NTFS part, and large ext4 part13:42
lotuspsychjesem: i would photorec the whole drive, see what you still can rescue, save data to another media13:43
JanCsem: make an image with ddrescue, and yes you'll need 2 TB for the image, then up to another 2 TB to save rescued files from it with photorec or similar tools13:43
semok i can look into photorec and ddrescue... too bad it takes so much data.... Can I use Network-Attached-Storage as a target with photorec or ddrescue? (Samba?)13:44
JanCalthough in theory you could image the partitions separately13:44
LP13leftyfb ok I don't knew it, I will create an account13:45
semi am not sure I trust Samba with that much data... is that a valid concern?13:46
JanCsem: I think the image is better local, especially when using photorec & similar tools, for access speed reasons, but I suppose on a NAS should work if you have no other choice13:46
vltsem: Yes, you can use any type of writable storage for ddrescue. Do that first and try photorec or similar tools only on that image.13:47
semok that sounds reasonable -- I will mount the samba share, run ddrescue pointing toward it as a start before the drive deteriorates further. Later I can work on getting it local.13:48
vltsem: And: Use the third argument to ddrescue that will create a mapfile while rescuing.13:48
JanCin fact, you might be able to run photorec & other such tools local ont he NAS probably13:49
lotuspsychjeagree on local13:49
JanCyou can also re-run ddrescue to retry still-missing sectors if it didn't copy the whole image after the default number of attempts (see the manual)13:52
lotuspsychjethe faster you rescue the data, the better13:53
JanCsem: also, how badly is it failing?13:54
JanCif it's just SMART warnings and not a lot of actual read failures then the image might still be mountable (although it's best to mount a copy of the image, as it might alter data on the file system, and if you are unlucky you could lose data that way too!)13:57
semWell it is SMART warnings but also I was not able to mount it and was getting warnings that it was in use14:00
semDmesg had some scary repeating messages that I didn't save14:01
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semIt was also keeping the raspi from rebooting somehow -- I would do sudo reboot and it would hang until I unplugged the drive14:01
sem(it is an externally powered drive)14:02
semOk I have a local drive big enough but it is 'ntfs3' format. I think Ubuntu can use that natively right?14:03
JanCit can, although not as reliable as a linux filesystem would be14:08
JanCsem: it might be the external power supply failing14:08
semThat would be good news if true. Not sure how I could test it, but I could possibly try replacing the power supply and see if it works better14:10
semthanks for the idea14:10
semthis is my command: $ sudo ddrescue -d /dev/sdd /media/semitones/wd4blue/recovery-delete-later/Seagate2TBrecovery.img Seagate2TBrecovery.mapfile14:15
user1_NEWBEE here.  first time.14:28
user1_Just exploring APPS and Programs in Ubuntu14:28
babuulais there a command to install a .deb package that automatically gets all the dependencies is available in launchpad or pkgs.org? i tried gdebi but it doesn't find them automatically. i'm looking for hexchat 2.16.2 .deb, i don't like that flatpak system because it uses strange directories.14:29
connstructbabuula: My suggestion would be to familiarize yourself with how snap/flatpak works rather than trying to go that route.14:30
connstructBecause compared to what you're suggesting, snaps or flatpaks are going to be much easier.14:31
connstructbabuula: Or, a better question: That version of hexchat is in the ubuntu package repos. You don't need to mess with a .deb or a snap/flatpak.14:34
connstructWhy not just install it directly from the repo?14:34
babuulaconnstruct: right, it must have been updated recently! i'll try installing...14:37
sixwheeledbeastbabuula: the main benefit to using the repos and apt is to manage dependencies. are you on an old version of ubuntu because that version is in the repos14:38
sixwheeledbeastah I was checking it was available...14:39
sixwheeledbeastjammy=2.16.0 noble=2.16.214:39
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babuulasixwheeledbeast: i'm using impish, live cd.14:52
leftyfbbabuula: don't14:52
leftyfbbabuula: what is your end goal with ubuntu?14:53
babuulaleftyfb: i will use the latest version later but now i'm stuck with this. i use ubuntu as a computer os :-).14:54
leftyfbbabuula: ok, install Ubuntu 24.04 onto your computer. Let us know if you need any help with that14:55
meustationwhat's the default .wav audio editor (gui not cli) that comes installed on a 22.04.4?14:55
leftyfbmeustation: there isn't one installed by default14:55
babuulaleftyfb: right now i have to use a live cd, some data loss problems.14:56
leftyfbbabuula: ok, is there something you need help with at the moment?14:56
meustationdoh!14:56
meustationleftyfb, do you have a recommendation?14:56
leftyfbbabuula: mind you, ubuntu 21.x isn't supported here14:56
leftyfbmeustation: Search the software center and try out some of the options. Pick the one you prefer14:57
oerhekshexchat on a live iso? might not be possible14:58
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meustationnot an option, I need to do a quick cut on a wav just made with Reaper.15:03
meustationluckily, synaptic only gives me one result, Sweep. let's hope it works15:03
leftyfbmeustation: synaptic is not a good solution for finding software. Use the software center. It will give more options15:05
babuulaleftyfb: no, not really now.15:06
oerheks!info snd15:07
ubottusnd (24.1-1build2, noble): Sound file editor (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Built by snd. Size 6 kB / 82 kB15:07
oerheksor audacity15:07
meustationleftyfb, I only use synaptic, the software center keeps too much stuff under the hood, too beginner-oriented, untrustable for me.15:08
meustationoerheks, right! audacity!15:08
* meustation knows not how could he forget audacity15:08
meustationsweep did the job though, thanks everybody!15:09
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jlucit looks like i've managed to use thunderbird on top of my moved profile folders15:51
jlucthanks to thunderbird PPA15:57
zphinxthe wonderful world of thunderbird15:58
leftyfbjluc: why not use the snap which is the latest version and supported here?15:58
zphinxwhere you have to pay a monthly subscription to use office365 with an addon15:58
jlucthe snap was full of issues15:59
leftyfbzphinx: huh?15:59
leftyfbjluc: what issues? I've been using it for over a year now with no issues15:59
jlucworst of issues were, i suppose, related to the fact that my profile exist outside of TB usual profile folder15:59
zphinxleftyfb: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/owl-for-exchange/15:59
test_test16:00
leftyfbthat's not an issue, that's just a location which can be changed or copied16:00
jlucand as a consequence the settings werent remembered16:00
jluci had to type passwords for every account each time16:00
MinveraHaving the weirdest issue on ubuntu 22 where unplugging my microphone from the headset jack removes the headphones sound card from my settings16:00
jlucand pluggins settings werent remembered neither16:00
Minverawhen the headphones are plugged into the back16:00
jluci also had other issues like not being able to copy to: or from: using dropdown menus16:01
leftyfbzphinx: I have 9 accounts on my thunderbird. 2 of which are Exchange accounts. Zero issues16:01
jlucand it was very sloooooww to load16:02
jluc(launch)16:02
jluci feel much more secure with the PPA16:02
leftyfbjust be aware that it's unsupported here16:02
leftyfband none of the issues you have mentioned I experience and I use the hell out of thunderbird16:03
jlucah16:03
jlucyes TB is important to me and i was very frightened to have all these issues16:04
leftyfbmy profile store is 33G :)16:04
jlucmine is about twice with 20 year old mails16:04
leftyfbonly 20?16:05
jluci could sort and delete but when it works it's better16:05
jlucabout16:05
jlucafter moving repos, i began with snap and had these issues16:06
jlucthen i installed the exec files available on TB.net (which come along with loads of .so files)16:06
jlucand i couldnt access my mails anymore at all16:07
jlucthen i found that PPA and all is fine again16:07
jlucafter moving profiles (not repos) on new computer16:08
jlucsee : i first trusted default ubuntu proposition but nope wasnt ok16:08
sixwheeledbeastis owl exchange addon even needed any more?16:09
leftyfbI have email and calendaring working for 2x exchange accounts, so I don't think so16:09
sixwheeledbeastYer I thought that was for exchange compatibility a long time ago but not required now16:11
leftyfbjluc: you got me curious so I did a little digging. I think my oldest email stored in thunderbird is from September 199816:15
jlucyeah !16:15
jluci got some that pretend to originate 1970 but i wouldnt trust that :-)16:20
Guest26guys one questeion16:27
Guest26is it worth to run ubuntu and on ubuntu an vm and inside the vm windows?16:27
Guest26xd16:27
lotuspsychjeGuest26: whats your end goal exactly? whats your project?16:32
Guest26using office16:32
Guest26on linux16:32
lotuspsychjethere is libreoffice on ubuntu if you like Guest2616:33
Guest26libre office wont do it16:33
leftyfbGuest26: use libreoffice and/or the office365 web interface16:33
connstructLibreoffice compatibility with word and such has come a long way.16:33
Guest26libreoffice skill issue basically16:33
leftyfbGuest26: https://www.office.com16:34
Guest82I really don't understand why the Ubuntu installer does not install updates xd17:03
Guest82I thought it got automatically updated and upgraded while installing17:03
Guest82So I installed vbox straight after17:03
Guest82But then I saw error17:04
Guest82Xd17:04
ravageYou should always make sure your system is up to date first17:04
Guest82Is that bad what I did ?17:04
Guest82Or acceptable17:04
Guest82X)17:04
ravageYou got an error17:04
Guest82Nah no error17:04
Guest82It installed17:04
ravageYou just said you saw an error17:05
lotuspsychjelol17:05
ravageError means a process fails17:05
Guest82That was an cap17:05
Guest82Is there a way to install geogebra as app?17:05
Guest82Does windows 10 install by default office ?17:07
zphinxleftyfb: exchange account and office365 account arent necessarily the same thing17:12
zphinx24.04 has two diffrent online accounts options for either of them17:12
alutardaHola17:36
alutarda¿Hay alguien?17:36
tomreyngreetings, alutarda17:36
tomreyn!es | alutarda17:36
ubottualutarda: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:36
alutardaAlright17:37
tomreynif you speak English, feel free to ask here :)17:37
malik_Hello i am new to linux please help after playing some audio my speakers make a high continuous bee until the source of the audio is closed. i have a dell chromebook 11 3180 with newest lubuntu installed17:42
malik_anyone17:43
malik_Hello i am new to linux please help after playing some audio my speakers make a high continuous beep until the source of the audio is closed. i have a dell chromebook 11 3180 with newest lubuntu installed17:44
LordDoskiashello, i have a problem with my printer - it used to work with ubuntu 22.04 but not with 24.04.1 it doesn't - says document feeder empty. The printer is canon pixma ts 915517:58
tomreynLordDoskias: install package openprinting-ppds and configure your printer at http://localhost:631/admin - login to this web page hosted on your own computer using your Ubuntu username and password.18:02
LordDoskiasactually my problem is with the scanning functionality, not printing18:04
LordDoskiasprinting works, but it's a multifunction device18:04
LordDoskiason ubuntu 22.04 it used to work out of the box i.e without having to install any specific drivers or anything like that18:05
tomreynoh, ok, the scanner. which scanning application are you using? simplescan?18:06
tomreynaka "Document Scanner" (on Gnome)18:06
LordDoskiasyes18:06
LordDoskiasit finds the scanner, but when i click "scan" it says - "couldn't scan, document feeder empty"18:06
LordDoskiasthe scanner is connected to my PC via a wifi connection18:07
tomreynon the top left corner, you have two buttons. when you click the second button, more buttons are shown below that. click on "single page" or "multiple pages from flatbed", test whether this works.18:08
tomreynmalik_: please remain connected after asking questions here18:11
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yeeter2012hello18:12
tomreynyeeter2012: put differently, if you know you need to leave, then please postpone asking questions until you know you can stay for a while after the fact.18:12
yeeter2012Hello i am new to linux please help after playing some audio my speakers make a high continuous beep until the source of the audio is closed. i have a dell chromebook 11 3180 with newest lubuntu installed18:12
yeeter2012ok18:13
yeeter2012ill stay18:13
leftyfbyeeter2012: what linux distro are you running and what release?18:13
yeeter2012lubuntu newest release18:13
yeeter2012keep in  mind this is the first time using linux18:13
leftyfbyeeter2012: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ) | nc termbin.com 999918:14
yeeter2012lubuntu 24.1018:14
LordDoskiastomreyn, all 3 options give the same error18:15
tomreynyeeter2012: leftyfb is suggesting to run these in a terminal emulator.18:15
LordDoskiasi.e single page, all pages from feeder and multiple pages from flatbed18:15
yeeter2012wtf is that18:15
tomreynyeeter2012: https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.1/3.1.2/qterminal.html18:15
leftyfbyeeter2012: please run this entire command in a terminal:      ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ) | nc termbin.com 999918:16
oerheksheared of that issue, maybe this fix works for you too; options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=2 (This would disable the SOF driver and use the Intel driver)>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1519940/whenever-audio-plays-it-cuts-out-and-is-replaced-with-loud-continuous-beeping-th18:16
tomreynLordDoskias: hmm, that's a bummer. do you remember whether you had installed software / a driver for this scanner downloaded from the canon website in the past?18:16
oerheksworked for me.18:16
tomreynLordDoskias: i noticed there is https://www.canon-europe.com/support/consumer/products/printers/pixma/ts-series/pixma-ts9155.html?type=drivers&detailId=tcm:13-1641020&os=Linux%20(64-bit)&language=en&productTcmUri=tcm:13-160490918:17
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tomreynLordDoskias: that's reaaally old, though - so I would not recommend using this unless you cannot make it work by other means18:18
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yeeter2012well i ran that driver command and it said that options inst a valid command18:18
LordDoskiastomreyn, i just installed the scangearmp2 software and it works but it's really ugly, i'd like to use the simplescan one18:18
LordDoskiasand on 22.04 - now, i had only installed the printer drivers18:19
leftyfb!paste  | yeeter2012: please pastebin the command you ran and it's output18:19
ubottuyeeter2012: please pastebin the command you ran and it's output: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:19
leftyfbor not18:19
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LordDoskiastomreyn, i jsut started simple-scan with the debug flag18:20
leftyfbyeeter2012: please run this entire command in a terminal:      ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ) | nc termbin.com 999918:20
LordDoskiashttps://pastebin.com/quggWZSw18:20
yeeter2012i ran the command and it said nothing back18:22
LordDoskias[+20,74s] DEBUG: scanner.vala:602: sane_control_option (4, SANE_ACTION_SET_VALUE, source="Flatbed") -> (SANE_STATUS_GOOD, "Flatbed")18:22
leftyfbyeeter2012: take a screenshot of the command you ran18:22
LordDoskiasi wonder if there could be a bug in the simplescan application that even if "single page" is selected it still thinks it should take it from the flatbead18:22
yeeter2012file:///home/malik/Documents/screen.jpg18:24
yeeter2012ah shit18:24
leftyfb!imgur | yeeter201218:24
yeeter2012wtf is imgur18:24
leftyfbyeeter2012: use imgurl.com to post your screenshot18:24
leftyfbbah18:24
yeeter2012ok18:24
yeeter2012wait18:24
leftyfbimgur.com18:24
tomreynLordDoskias: that's entirely possible. the newer version of it might have lost support of this scanner, too. though the log doesn't look bad at all, it gets quite far.18:25
yeeter2012https://imgur.com/a/sc-qWbDoNH18:26
ravageyou miss a 918:27
yeeter2012bye bye18:28
LordDoskiastomreyn, are there alternatives?18:28
LordDoskiasapt search xsane18:29
LordDoskiasif i scan with xsane it also works18:31
ioriaLordDoskias, did you run 'simple-scan --debug' ?18:32
LordDoskiasioria, yes, and provided the log a little earlier18:32
LordDoskiashttps://pastebin.com/quggWZSw18:32
ioriaLordDoskias, ok, try again without --debug18:32
LordDoskiasno change18:32
tomreynLordDoskias: oh, nice. did you retry with simple-scan after installing scangearmp2?18:32
LordDoskiastomreyn, yes - no luck ...18:33
LordDoskiasmy scanner actually doesn't have a document feeder o-O18:33
tomreynoh, weird18:34
ioriaLordDoskias, try to remove ~/.cache/simple-scan/18:34
LordDoskiassame thing18:35
LordDoskiasso running scanimage --help give sthe following for my device:18:35
tomreynhttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/simple-scan#debugging suggests that the options simple-scan uses may differ from those the other tools are using. you should be able to see which ones those use and make simple-scan use the same options18:36
tomreynlooks like you're already doing so :)18:36
LordDoskiashttps://pastebin.com/TX4t6tvU so the only possible source is really flatbed18:36
tomreynis this the output of     scanimage --help -d DEVICE    ?18:38
tomreynDEVICE would need to be replaced, not sure by what exactly18:38
LordDoskiasit's the output of --help but after the generic help it prints the device-specific options18:39
tomreynhad you tried whether there is a web interface at https://192.168.0.7 which provides more information?18:40
tomreynah, escl:https://192.168.0.7:443 is the device18:41
LordDoskiasscanimage -d escl:https://192.168.0.7:443 -o ~/test.pdf - doing this works18:41
LordDoskiasmeaning driver-wise everything is working18:41
tomreynyes, that'd be why xsane and the vendor tool work18:41
tomreynso it's an issue with this version of scan-image not using the same options, i'm guessing18:42
LordDoskias;\18:43
tomreyni meant to write: so it's an issue with this version of simple-scan not using the same options, i'm guessing18:44
LordDoskias;\18:46
tomreynhad you tried running    export SANE_DEBUG_DLL=255    before you start simple-scan and run a scan?18:46
tomreynor to compare the options used by simple-scan - as listed at https://pastebin.com/raw/quggWZSw - by those used by xsane?18:47
LordDoskiassince it correctly loads the pixma backend and finds my pixma device i'd say this won't help much ...18:47
tomreyn...or those used by scanimage18:48
tomreynthe "sane_control_option" lines seem to say which options simple-scan uses18:49
LordDoskias[+21,43s] DEBUG: scanner.vala:1352: sane_start (page=0, pass=0) -> SANE_STATUS_NO_DOCS18:50
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LordDoskiashttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/simple-scan/-/blob/master/src/scanner.vala#L135518:51
LordDoskiasso for some reason when using sane inside the app it just returns no odocs18:52
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tomreynLordDoskias: so when i run     export SANE_DEBUG_DLL=255; scanimage -v -d DEVICE -o /tmp/test.pdf >/tmp/log 2>&1    i get to see a lot of details, and the options scanimage is using, and can compare them to those simple-scan uses19:02
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tomreynactually, sane-dll(5) only knows of SANE_DEBUG_DLL values 0..419:07
tomreynsane-pixma(5) discusses more options19:09
tomreynLordDoskias: i'll stop here for now, good luck.19:09
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NeoFrontier-passOk, so what is up with this right click to add a new file missing in ubuntu 24 ? ( only add a directory is present...)19:17
bprompthmmm NeoFrontier-pass  depends on the file manager you use I take it, I use Konqueror for my file manager, and I have New > [about 14 choices]19:20
leftyfbNeoFrontier-pass: https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/04/enable-new-document-context-menu-in-ubuntu-17-04/19:21
leftyfbyou just need to add the template for it19:21
NeoFrontier-passbprompt, is guess its nautilus the default which always had new file...19:21
leftyfbNeoFrontier-pass: I don't think it's ever had "new file". It goes by templates19:22
NeoFrontier-passno it just says files under about...19:22
leftyfbNeoFrontier-pass: follow the link I posted19:22
leftyfbthat tells you how to add to the context menu19:22
NeoFrontier-passleftyfb, thanks :D19:22
mh_lehow do I set the locale for my user?20:34
leftyfbmh_le: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale20:35
leftyfbfirst result on google when searcning for "ubuntu locale"20:35
mh_lenot on my search :)20:36
leftyfbit does for me on 3 different devices with 3 different browsers, all in pirvate/incognito mode20:38
mh_leif you say so20:38
leftyfbmh_le: can you show me a screenshot of your browser searching google.com for "ubuntu locale"? I'm very curious20:39
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morgan-ure Pluma: my computer shut down (I flipped the breaker) is there a backup file anlywhere if I didnt save the file at all? 22.0422:02
JanCwhich Pluma?22:09
JanCthe MATE text editor?22:10
sixwheeledbeastI wouldn't expect so22:12
leftyfbmorgan-u: unlikely. Depends on the application22:19
sixwheeledbeastautosave isn't on by default and I would think you would know if it's on as you get popups in the gui22:28
Guest68anyone knows how to run local artificial intelligence on ubuntu if Your gpu is nvidia gtx 1650ti23:19
Guest68so far, musicGPT is failure due vram or ram23:20
Guest68localAI does not work, because API KEY is not there, and documentation sucks23:21
Guest68I am not trying to come up with fake sht for Your motivation, I am trying to do science tutorials23:22
Guest68generating pictures, for science23:22
Guest68trying pytorch now23:31
Guest68installing looks easy, no tutorial on using it23:31

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