| Siamaster | chatgpt suggests to use gddrescue to create an image file. Is it different than just dding? | 00:19 |
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| Siamaster | I'm not gonna trust chatgpt with this :) | 00:19 |
| Siamaster | but it doesn't sound bad? | 00:19 |
| Bashing-om | Siamaster: Have you tried what the fsck advises ? : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177756 how to. | 00:26 |
| Siamaster | No, but I'm thinking the disk is failing so it's best to back it up first thing first. I've bought an external disk today for this purpose | 00:28 |
| Siamaster | I keep disconnecting? | 00:47 |
| sarnold | yes | 00:49 |
| sarnold | 2024-11-22 00:35:27 -!- Siamaster [~Siamaster@h-98-128-180-21.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Client closed] | 00:49 |
| sarnold | 2024-11-22 00:44:07 -!- Siamaster [~Siamaster@h-98-128-180-21.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Client Quit] | 00:49 |
| sarnold | from here it looks like your program has chosen to quit | 00:49 |
| Siamaster | weird.. | 00:49 |
| Siamaster | what do you think about gddrescue, I think you suggested that earlier? | 00:50 |
| Siamaster | chatgpt is suggesting that too | 00:50 |
| Siamaster | I've still not dared to run any commands :P | 00:51 |
| sarnold | gddrescue should be good, it won't give up ont he first error like dd will | 00:53 |
| Siamaster | should I create a new partition for this on my new hd or should I just dump the img file? | 00:55 |
| sarnold | I'd create a new filesystem on the new drive and save it as a regular file, most tools ought to be able to handle that, and it'll be easier to work with | 00:56 |
| Siamaster | ok.. can you help me create a filesystem on it? I've got: | 00:58 |
| Siamaster | [12:07:26 AM] <Siamaster> sdc 8:32 0 4,5T 0 disk | 00:58 |
| Siamaster | [12:07:26 AM] <Siamaster> ├─sdc1 8:33 0 200M 0 part | 00:58 |
| Siamaster | [12:07:26 AM] <Siamaster> └─sdc2 8:34 0 4,5T 0 part /media/siamaster/Expansion | 00:58 |
| Siamaster | that's my new disk | 00:58 |
| Siamaster | or should I just dump it to sdc2? | 00:58 |
| sarnold | what kind of filesystem do you want on it? ext4, zfs, something else? | 01:02 |
| Siamaster | I mean does it matter if it's just an img file? | 01:03 |
| Siamaster | but I usually go with ext4 and the failing partition is most probably ext4 | 01:03 |
| sarnold | it doesn't *really* matter but if you want to rsync it to another machine or something, it's so much easier to work with a file than with a partition | 01:18 |
| Siamaster | I'm going to back it up to a new internal disk after that | 01:23 |
| Siamaster | and that new internal disk is going to be ext4 | 01:23 |
| Siamaster | so I should just go with a file right? just save it to sdc2 | 01:23 |
| Siamaster | so sudo ddrescue -f -n /dev/sdb /media/siamaster/Expansion/backup/disk-image.img /media/siamaster/Expansion/backup/logfile.log | 01:24 |
| Siamaster | do I dare? | 01:24 |
| Siamaster | chatgpt suggest to run this first and then another one with sudo ddrescue -d -r3 for retries.. but this sounds weird | 01:25 |
| Siamaster | it suggests to run first 'sudo ddrescue -f -n /dev/sdb /media/siamaster/Expansion/backup/disk-image.img /media/siamaster/Expansion/backup/logfile.log' then 'sudo ddrescue -d -r3 /dev/sdb /media/siamaster/Expansion/backup/disk-image.img /media/siamaster/Expansion/backup/logfile.log' | 01:28 |
| Siamaster | so to the same destination twice | 01:28 |
| sarnold | that seems reasonable enough, yeah | 01:30 |
| Siamaster | ok | 01:32 |
| Siamaster | I run it then | 01:32 |
| Siamaster | gogogo | 01:32 |
| gaelheart | Fresh Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS install. Looking to watch my DVD's but when i put them in nothing happens. I read somewhere online that VLC has DVD playback in it, but When i tried it with VLC it didn't play. I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but it still won't play my DVD's. Is there an online resource somebody can point me too in order to get DVD playback on my Ubuntu PC. Thanks. | 01:33 |
| Siamaster | oh man I'm seeing lots of errors | 01:34 |
| Siamaster | sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#16 Add. Sense: Logical unit not ready, power cycle required | 01:34 |
| Siamaster | should I abort? | 01:34 |
| Siamaster | I aborted it | 01:35 |
| Siamaster | it was not able to read anything at all: | 01:36 |
| Siamaster | GNU ddrescue 1.23 | 01:36 |
| Siamaster | Press Ctrl-C to interrupt | 01:36 |
| Siamaster | ipos: 283443 kB, non-trimmed: 290807 kB, current rate: 0 B/s | 01:36 |
| Siamaster | opos: 283443 kB, non-scraped: 0 B, average rate: 0 B/s | 01:36 |
| sarnold | aw, that's sounding bad. | 01:36 |
| Siamaster | what can be the cause? | 01:37 |
| Siamaster | and is there any solution? | 01:37 |
| Siamaster | do I dare mounting my other backup disk to this computer? | 01:38 |
| Siamaster | I have another backup disk which contains parts of my data | 01:38 |
| Siamaster | but I'm now even afraid to attach it to my computer, since I don't know why this one started failing like this all of the sudden | 01:38 |
| gaelheart | I'll see you all later. Have a great day! | 01:38 |
| Siamaster | could it be that my power supply is too weak? But I remember getting a strong one for my setup | 01:41 |
| Siamaster | Could it be a problem with my computer rather than the disk? | 01:51 |
| Siamaster | I've tried connecting to different satas tho | 01:52 |
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| Siamaster | I tried again switching my sata cables but still that disk is not read | 02:12 |
| Siamaster | I only get read errors from it | 02:12 |
| Siamaster | What's next? :/ | 02:12 |
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| Siamaster | 6. Check Power Supply | 02:17 |
| Siamaster | If multiple disks are experiencing issues, your power supply might not be delivering enough power. Consider testing with a different PSU. | 02:17 |
| Siamaster | Say's chatgpt | 02:17 |
| Siamaster | I think it sounds reasonable, more reasonable than that the disk is now both unreadable and the partition corrupted.. | 02:19 |
| Siamaster | and it all started when I was shutting down windows, I heard that click that I always hear when I get issues with my hdds due to the PS. I heard it several times and then when I forced shut down my cocmputer and restarted to ubuntu I realized the disk is not readable anymore | 02:20 |
| Siamaster | I mean Windows hadn't even mounted it, probably it didn't corrupt the data | 02:21 |
| Siamaster | I change my hdds every 7-8 years or so, This one is probably 5-6 years old, not that it matters but I've never actually had a hardware failure in my life, it's always been due to the PS. Usually switching sata locations helps, but it's not doing it now | 02:22 |
| Siamaster | I think I will take it to a store see if he can test to see whether it works with another PS | 02:23 |
| Siamaster | and I'm def not going to plug my real "backup" disk to this system, when it just stopped reading the other one for no reason | 02:24 |
| Siamaster | I mean the log even said it.. "not enough power cycles" or something | 02:24 |
| Siamaster | has to do with PS | 02:25 |
| Siamaster | what do you think? | 02:25 |
| Siamaster | I'm going to buy a new hdd cabinet with it's own powersupply and test | 02:44 |
| de-facto | with "apt upgrade" why do i get a list for "The following packages have been kept back:" without any explanations? | 04:27 |
| de-facto | why is apt refusing to do what its told? | 04:28 |
| Bashing-om | !phased-update | 04:29 |
| de-facto | no | 04:29 |
| de-facto | non phased refusal for apt | 04:29 |
| de-facto | how can i ask apt what its problem is? | 04:30 |
| Bashing-om | de-facto: ' a[t polocy <package>' to see the phasing. | 04:31 |
| Bashing-om | apt* | 04:31 |
| Bashing-om | apt policy ** | 04:31 |
| de-facto | i dont think its any phasing | 04:32 |
| de-facto | those are listed separately | 04:32 |
| de-facto | apt is just refusing to do its work without providing any explanation | 04:32 |
| rbox | try to manually install what its compliaing about | 04:33 |
| de-facto | how can i force apt to do an upgrade of all packages | 04:37 |
| DarkLordofDebian | sudo apt full-upgrade | 04:38 |
| DarkLordofDebian | de-facto, ^^ | 04:39 |
| oerheks | show us the list what packages? | 04:39 |
| oerheks | this is wild guessing | 04:39 |
| de-facto | i just want apt to tell me the problem instead of it just refusing | 04:41 |
| DarkLordofDebian | de-facto, In that case, try "sudo aptitude why-not <package name>" | 04:43 |
| oerheks | aptitude was great, with why + why-not | 04:44 |
| DarkLordofDebian | You might need to install aptitude for that. Ubuntu doesn't always ship with it installed. I use multiple package managers myself, because some of them have specialized tools for interacting with dpkg. | 04:44 |
| oerheks | apt is better now, over apt-get and aptitude | 04:45 |
| DarkLordofDebian | oerheks, apt doesn't have why-not though. | 04:45 |
| oerheks | indeed | 04:45 |
| de-facto | wow apt is such a bad util i really hate it | 04:46 |
| oerheks | maybe he just got a kernel update, and removal old kernel is waiting | 04:46 |
| oerheks | who can tell? | 04:46 |
| oerheks | rant away, good luck de-facto | 04:46 |
| DarkLordofDebian | de-facto, Can you take a screenshot of the Terminal output when you try upgrading so we can see a list of the packages it refuses to upgrade? | 04:47 |
| DarkLordofDebian | That might also give me an idea of a command to use. | 04:47 |
| de-facto | in uninstalled all the problematic packages now and try to install then anew, now it says held back broken packages without any explanations | 04:48 |
| de-facto | its just refusing to cooperate without providing the essential informations | 04:48 |
| DarkLordofDebian | de-facto, apt isn't bad, it's just not as complicated. I use apt for almost everything, but I always have aptitude and apt-get waiting in the wings for special needs circumstances. | 04:48 |
| DarkLordofDebian | de-facto, Well, you can fix broken packages with "apt-get install -f" | 04:49 |
| de-facto | why is its design philosophy to refuse to comply with user requests without providing reasons for refusal? | 04:49 |
| oerheks | why not provide info? | 04:50 |
| DarkLordofDebian | There are some settings you can use to make it more verbose... | 04:51 |
| oerheks | apt update with new lists could solve such issues. | 04:51 |
| de-facto | how can i ask apt which packages it considers "broken"? | 04:51 |
| de-facto | why is this essential info hidden for the user? | 04:52 |
| DarkLordofDebian | de-facto, You might try to ask this way: "dpkg-query -l broken" | 04:53 |
| DarkLordofDebian | I think that's the way to ask... | 04:53 |
| de-facto | apt "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." dpkg-query: no packages found matching broken | 04:54 |
| de-facto | great so now they disagree? | 04:54 |
| DarkLordofDebian | de-facto, That "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." is a message I'm familiar with, and it's usually at that point that I run "apt-get install -f", but you might even be able to use "apt install -f" | 04:55 |
| DarkLordofDebian | And, no, they don't disagree. I must have written the command wrong. | 04:55 |
| de-facto | already tried that, it does nothing | 04:56 |
| de-facto | apt neither fixes it nor tells whats broken it just refuses to cooperate | 04:56 |
| de-facto | hmm maybe i just do some wild guesses and keep uninstalling packages until it stops refusing | 04:58 |
| * de-facto really does hate apt | 04:58 | |
| DarkLordofDebian | de-facto, Okay... IWOL (Incoming Wall of Text) | 04:58 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Run the following command to check for broken dependencies: sudo apt-get check | 04:59 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Use dpkg to find packages marked as not fully installed or broken: dpkg --audit | 04:59 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Alternatively, filter broken packages with: dpkg -l | grep ^..r | 04:59 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Look into the logs for detailed error messages: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep -i "error" | 04:59 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Or: cat /var/log/apt/term.log | grep -i "error" | 04:59 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Use the following command to attempt an automatic fix: sudo apt-get install -f | 05:00 |
| DarkLordofDebian | If the above doesn't work, manually remove and reinstall the broken package: sudo apt-get remove --purge <package-name> | 05:00 |
| DarkLordofDebian | sudo apt-get install <package-name> | 05:00 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Clear the cache in case it holds corrupted data: sudo apt-get clean | 05:00 |
| DarkLordofDebian | sudo apt-get autoclean | 05:00 |
| DarkLordofDebian | If issues persist: Run "apt-cache policy <package-name>" to inspect the package's sources. | 05:01 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Check the PPA or repository configuration in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. | 05:01 |
| DarkLordofDebian | LAST RESORT!! For stubborn broken packages, force removal: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq <package-name> | 05:01 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Check for general package system issues: sudo apt-get update | 05:02 |
| DarkLordofDebian | sudo apt-get upgrade | 05:02 |
| oerheks | and reboot | 05:02 |
| oerheks | 🤪 | 05:03 |
| DarkLordofDebian | That will get you somewhere de-facto... maybe more confused, maybe problem solved... but somewhere. | 05:03 |
| de-facto | ok thank you for the commands i will try to somehow force that stupid apt to cooperate | 05:04 |
| DarkLordofDebian | May the odds be ever in your favor! | 05:04 |
| DarkLordofDebian | lol | 05:04 |
| de-facto | thanks | 05:04 |
| de-facto | finally i just uninstalled all packages that even could remotely be related and reinstalled them | 05:13 |
| de-facto | that way apt did not stumble upon itself and actually did what it was asked | 05:14 |
| DarkLordofDebian | lol | 05:14 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Remember, the rule with Linux is: If you break it, you get to keep both pieces. | 05:14 |
| DarkLordofDebian | lol | 05:14 |
| * DarkLordofDebian has broken things on so many occasions... only a few of those were intentional... all of them were learning experiences | 05:15 | |
| DarkLordofDebian | As long as you learn from it, it's never a bad thing. | 05:16 |
| * de-facto just wished apt would not hide the reasons for refusal, because it actually only can refuse if it knows those reasons | 05:16 | |
| DarkLordofDebian | Well, good night everyone. I'll be back tomorrow at some point. | 05:18 |
| de-facto | thanks for your help | 05:18 |
| de-facto | gn8 | 05:18 |
| DarkLordofDebian | de-facto, You're welcome! See you later | 05:18 |
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| Bashing-om | wasgood: This channel is Ubuntu support - you have a support question ? | 07:32 |
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| elfranne | Was trying to downgrade a package from a PPA, but only the latest version was available via apt, but the files were present when you browse the repo. Is that a unique "feature" for all PPAs or specific to certain ones (ppa:ondrej/php) | 08:56 |
| mgedmin | apt doesn't support downgrades | 08:58 |
| mgedmin | (that is, they might work, if the older version is available in some archive, but you're on your own if things break) | 08:58 |
| mgedmin | afaiu the PPA publisher only ever publishes the latest version of a package | 08:58 |
| mgedmin | so you'd have to download the .deb manually and sudo apt install ./filename.deb manually and then maybe use apt pins (I hate apt pins) to prevent apt upgrade from upgrading it the next time you run 'apt upgrade' | 08:59 |
| JanC | or create your private repo with that package & set priorities | 09:00 |
| elfranne | what do you mean by apt does not support downgrade? I have done that many times. | 09:02 |
| elfranne | but thanks for the tips about manually downloading the deb, that is how I solved the issue yesterday | 09:04 |
| Guest9269 | hello | 09:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | With most software updates it's only considered you will go forwards. The older settings/config stored on the system may not be compatible with older version for example. | 09:08 |
| JanC | elfranne: it's more like it's discouraged & untested, and normally APT will never downgrade on its own | 09:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | You can also manually install a specific version with apt if it's available in your repos. | 09:09 |
| elfranne | oh in that way! | 09:10 |
| mgedmin | in practical terms it mostly means that package maintaines don't have to consider downgrades when they write preinst/postinst scripts | 09:17 |
| mgedmin | so e.g. a package might upgrade some data file format in a postinst and then you downgrade and the old version can't read your data, this will not be considered a bug as downgrades are unsupported | 09:18 |
| k1t2 | hi | 09:19 |
| k1t2 | n | 09:19 |
| k1t2 | i | 09:19 |
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| hva | poopnigger | 10:51 |
| hva | erm what the spruce i did NOT type that | 10:51 |
| oerheks | you make that "joke" in multiple channels. | 10:53 |
| hva | no i don't | 10:53 |
| hva | i'm only in three other channels | 10:53 |
| hva | 2 of which i asked for some lightweight terminal emulator recommendations, the other i'm not registered on nickserv so i cant talk | 10:54 |
| hva | omg hi | 10:54 |
| hva | that's so cool how the linux foundation owns kernel.org | 10:55 |
| hva | help | 10:58 |
| hva | hi guys | 11:19 |
| hva | hows ubuntu going | 11:19 |
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| jankopp | Here i am, thinkig IRC might be less full of annoying people then other social media... | 11:56 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ./ignore | 11:56 |
| oerheks | :-) | 11:57 |
| oerheks | some channels give a bridge to telegram/matrix something, we don' | 11:58 |
| oerheks | t | 11:58 |
| lotuspsychje | not 'yet' oerheks :p | 12:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh please no | 12:01 |
| * sixwheeledbeast stuffs fingers in ears and runs away | 12:01 | |
| oerheks | in #kubuntu it is on block here. | 12:03 |
| oerheks | but i drift offtopic | 12:03 |
| universum | hello. after i updated my system yesterday i get errors today ( noble). is this known ? | 12:22 |
| lotuspsychje | universum: can you pastebin your errors please | 12:23 |
| lotuspsychje | !paste | universum | 12:23 |
| ubottu | universum: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 12:23 |
| universum | lotuspsychje, can i paste there screenshots too? | 12:25 |
| universum | ah sorry | 12:25 |
| lotuspsychje | if the errors are readable, sure | 12:26 |
| universum | so i will do when i get the error again | 12:26 |
| lotuspsychje | universum: did you see an error in apt, or a bug window? | 12:26 |
| universum | after starting my machine there was something with gnome shell error | 12:26 |
| lotuspsychje | universum: usualy its a good idea, when getting bug error windows, to file them (manual or automatic= your choice) | 12:27 |
| universum | Ok, thank you | 12:28 |
| lotuspsychje | universum: crash bugs are differently handled though, you can check if items exist in your /var/crash dir | 12:29 |
| universum | lotuspsychje, inside the folder are _usr_bin_gnome-shell.128.crash _usr_bin_nautilus.1000.crash | 12:30 |
| universum | _usr_bin_gnome-shell.128.upload _usr_bin_nautilus.1000.upload | 12:30 |
| universum | _usr_bin_gnome-shell.128.uploaded _usr_bin_nautilus.1000.uploaded | 12:30 |
| lotuspsychje | universum: try a reboot maybe, and file the bug if it allows you to | 12:32 |
| lotuspsychje | otherwise follow the crash bug procedure from here: | 12:32 |
| lotuspsychje | !bug | 12:32 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 12:32 |
| lotuspsychje | universum: do you have a launchpad account? | 12:34 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:48 |
| universum | lotuspsychje what is this ? | 12:59 |
| lotuspsychje | universum: launchpad is the website, where the bugs will be reported towards | 13:02 |
| universum | not yet. i rebooted like you said. no error atm | 13:03 |
| lotuspsychje | allrighty | 13:03 |
| oerheks | nope, no odays here | 13:10 |
| l33t-0day | hi all | 13:10 |
| l33t-0day | :) | 13:10 |
| l33t-0day | first timer here | 13:10 |
| l33t-0day | how are you all ? | 13:11 |
| oerheks | welcome to ubuntu support | 13:11 |
| l33t-0day | i heard ubuntu there is security breach | 13:11 |
| l33t-0day | is that true guys ? | 13:11 |
| oerheks | there are always bloggers that write about security, after we published updated packages. | 13:13 |
| jackfruit998 | Eyo, sorry for the bother folks, I tried to do research but all I pulled up was server-related stuff, and I've got a laptop I'm a bit... concerned about. What temperature ranges should I start getting worry about on my adaptors while idling? I know modern parts run pretty hot these days. | 13:13 |
| oerheks | jackfruit998, check #hardware for that, or the vendor. | 13:13 |
| oerheks | not an ubuntu issue.. | 13:13 |
| jackfruit998 | Ah, thanks, I'll check it out, sorry, not really familiar with IRCs. | 13:13 |
| oerheks | no problem, love to help you to get a good answer | 13:14 |
| oerheks | adapters can get quite hot, but idle... | 13:14 |
| l33t-0day | see yourself donald trump libera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ds4Yo30vgw he has something to say for you all | 13:25 |
| oerheks | stop that spam, keep that for your friends | 13:26 |
| leftyfb | l33t-0day: this is a support channel. Please troll elsewhere | 13:26 |
| oerheks | !coc > l33t-0day | 13:26 |
| ubottu | l33t-0day: Please see my private message | 13:26 |
| l33t-0day | if your american | 13:28 |
| l33t-0day | you should know | 13:28 |
| l33t-0day | before donald trump close ubuntu for good | 13:28 |
| l33t-0day | see yourself ubuntu user | 13:28 |
| leftyfb | l33t-0day: take it elsewhere | 13:29 |
| Thermoriax | This is some low grade 4chan trolling. | 13:29 |
| oerheks | welcome to friday support, Thermoriax | 13:29 |
| Thermoriax | Do I get an achievement? :) | 13:30 |
| oerheks | Thermoriax, yes, pick a free download https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index | 13:31 |
| Thermoriax | lol | 13:31 |
| l33t-0day | for top news just follow twitter.com/skraito3 is Lord Jesus Christ blog and skraito ... . We just release unreal engine ... . | 14:03 |
| leftyfb | !op | l33t-0day | 14:03 |
| ubottu | l33t-0day: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 14:03 |
| l33t-0day | not even a source code you have | 14:05 |
| l33t-0day | you sure this ubuntu is not fake ? | 14:05 |
| l33t-0day | is version Metra | 14:05 |
| oerheks | time to leave the channel | 14:05 |
| lnkin | hi | 14:42 |
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| Siamaster | ok.. so my disk is dead.. I just bought an adapter with it's own power source and it's still unreadable | 15:18 |
| Siamaster | Is it worth contacting Seagate? can they fix such thing? | 15:18 |
| leftyfb | they are unlikely to "fix" it | 15:19 |
| leftyfb | Siamaster: your only option at this point is to seek professional recovery services. You're more than likely looking at thousands of dollars. | 15:19 |
| oerheks | your data must be worth a lot of money.. | 15:19 |
| oerheks | yeah, expect 10k, maybe less | 15:20 |
| tomreyn | and getting scammed once or twice until you find a non scammy DR service | 15:20 |
| Siamaster | :( | 15:21 |
| leftyfb | Siamaster: good luck | 15:21 |
| Siamaster | but why does this even happen? Just bad luck? | 15:22 |
| tomreyn | are you asking "why do things break"? | 15:22 |
| Siamaster | :) | 15:22 |
| tomreyn | there's #hardware for hardware topics by the way | 15:23 |
| Siamaster | yeah I just got off phone with a pro, you're right, 1k dollars at least.. better to buy new porn | 15:28 |
| Siamaster | I can ask #hardware too maybe I'm lucky and there's an easy solution, I doubt it | 15:29 |
| oerheks | let a electronics man check the print/board and connector, i hope it is just wobbly | 15:30 |
| Guest52 | hi how to encrypt a whole external hard disk? | 16:48 |
| kuka_lie | luks | 16:49 |
| Guest52 | what does it mean luks? | 16:49 |
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| kuka_lie | https://medium.com/@anirudhadak25/luks-linux-unified-key-setup-encryption-on-disk-partitions-of-linux-71d41e4f8d53 | 16:49 |
| kuka_lie | https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html/security_hardening/encrypting-block-devices-using-luks_security-hardening | 16:50 |
| kuka_lie | https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/order-management-sw/10.0?topic=considerations-encrypting-data-partitions-using-luks | 16:50 |
| kuka_lie | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system | 16:50 |
| kuka_lie | does this help? | 16:51 |
| leftyfb | Guest52: https://jumpcloud.com/blog/how-to-enable-full-disk-encryption-ubuntu-22-04 | 16:51 |
| ioria | Guest52, encrypt for what ? system os or storage ? | 16:53 |
| Guest52 | ioria external hard disks which contain only data such as photo, music, documents, ecc.. | 16:53 |
| ioria | Guest52, much simpler; install libcryptsetup and use gnome-disks | 16:54 |
| Guest52 | ioria is it the default software for ubuntu? | 16:55 |
| ioria | yes | 16:55 |
| Guest52 | what should i type in app center to find this software? | 16:56 |
| ioria | Guest52, disk | 16:56 |
| Guest52 | ioria | 16:56 |
| ioria | Guest52, sorry, disks | 16:56 |
| Guest52 | ioria it's already installed | 16:56 |
| ioria | Guest52, ok start it - look here : https://www.neowin.net/guides/how-to-create-encrypted-partitions-on-linux-with-gnome-disks/ | 16:57 |
| Guest52 | ioria which is the difference between disks and luks? | 16:58 |
| ioria | Guest52, Disks is just a name | 16:59 |
| ioria | Guest52, it uses luks | 16:59 |
| Guest52 | Is there any risk of losing data on the HD? | 17:00 |
| ioria | Guest52, do you already have data on it ? | 17:02 |
| maxtim | Hello! I'm having a DNS Issue! Isn't that exciting! (mumble grumble) I just upgraded to 24.04 and the DNS can't resolve any of the .local domain names. I have two nics and the `systemd-resolve status` command appears correct | 17:02 |
| leftyfb | Guest52: there is always risk with storage devices and filesystems | 17:02 |
| leftyfb | maxtim: please use a pastebin service to paste the output of resolvectl status | 17:03 |
| maxtim | should obfuscate any of this? | 17:03 |
| ioria | Guest52, that procedure will erase everything on it; if you have data on it, you need to backup ; encrypt the device and copy over | 17:04 |
| leftyfb | maxtim: local network info isn't private data | 17:04 |
| Guest52 | ioria yes, data are already on it, but if it is safer to encrypt first and then add the data, I can very well remove them temporarily, encrypt and then put them back on top, even if they are 2 HDs on which I add and remove files and folders continuously, I don't know if this also has an effect, I mean I wouldn't want that even if I do the | 17:04 |
| Guest52 | encryption before putting all the files on there, afterwards they always have to be the same | 17:04 |
| maxtim | leftyfb: that's what I figured. Just checkin | 17:04 |
| maxtim | leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/gAYZdvfA | 17:05 |
| ioria | Guest52, yes, i strongly suggest backup - encrypt - restore | 17:05 |
| leftyfb | maxtim: there's no local "DNS Domain" set. That gets done via DHCP and is configured on your DHCP server, typically your router | 17:06 |
| leftyfb | maxtim: is there a reason you're connected to 2 different subnets? | 17:07 |
| maxtim | yes | 17:07 |
| maxtim | This is a nagios server monitoring things | 17:07 |
| ioria | Guest52, but if your linux-fu is fine, you can resize the drive, create another partition, encrypt the partition, move the data in the new encrypted partition, and then encrypt the first one; needless to say; it's risky | 17:07 |
| Guest52 | ioria , ok then I remove all the data, do the encryption and then put them back in the hd, but after I put them, can I use my external hd as usual while continuing to have encryption on the entire hard disk? Maybe I explained myself badly, I mean can I add, delete, modify data continuously and in new data will they also be protected by encryption | 17:08 |
| Guest52 | or only the ones I put back in? | 17:08 |
| ioria | Guest52, no relation between the twos | 17:09 |
| Guest52 | ioria i don't need an only encrypted partition, i need to encrypt the whole hard disk | 17:10 |
| ioria | Guest52, yeah, i got it | 17:10 |
| ioria | Guest52, think about encryption like a blanket | 17:11 |
| Guest70 | ioria if I do as you described in the example where you need to create a new partition, I will then have only one encrypted partition while the other one where I temporarily moved the data will not be, right? | 17:11 |
| ioria | Guest52, yeah, but you need the space to do all that | 17:12 |
| sprokkel | /buffer set color_inactive_fg default | 17:12 |
| sprokkel | typo | 17:13 |
| oerheks | encrypt the whole hard disk = start all over with installing ubuntu again, fastest way to do it secure | 17:13 |
| ioria | oerheks, it's just for data not os | 17:13 |
| oerheks | then put your data on it, done | 17:14 |
| oerheks | oh, 2nd hdd ? | 17:14 |
| ioria | yep | 17:14 |
| Guest70 | ioria i have it too much because i have 2 external hd, so i put all data on first hd, after encryption of the second hd i will put the data again on it. After i will encrypt the first hd and move all data from the second hd, right? | 17:14 |
| Guest70 | oerheks i already istalled ubuntu encrypting internal hd | 17:15 |
| ioria | Guest52, yeah | 17:15 |
| oerheks | sorry, missed that part | 17:15 |
| Guest70 | thanks a lot both ioria and oerheks have a nice evening | 17:16 |
| ioria | Guest52, ok | 17:16 |
| maxtim | leftyfb: well, this device never uses the dhcp server. It's static | 17:16 |
| leftyfb | maxtim: ok, so set .local as your domain in your network config | 17:17 |
| leftyfb | maxtim: though you really should be using a proper local domain and DNS server | 17:18 |
| maxtim | leftyfb: disco thanks | 17:20 |
| Guest70 | ioria oerheks """"" One of the drawbacks to encrypting the device using this method is that you'll be limited to what file system you use. """"" | 17:25 |
| Guest70 | maybe it is risky to use NTFS? I generally use NTFS because I have been told that I can read it with both Ubuntu and Windows, while if I use EXT4, then it seems to me that it can only be read by Ubuntu and not by Windows in case I need to read it on a backup computer | 17:25 |
| Guest70 | Is it dangerous to use NTFS? Is there a risk of data loss? | 17:25 |
| oerheks | one could use windows encrypted disk on linux too, bitlocker. | 17:26 |
| oerheks | well, encrypted ntfs sharing between platforms, no idea how that works | 17:28 |
| Guest70 | oerheks ioria among the options you can choose NTFS, so it should work, but at the same time it describes it as a "DISADVANTAGE" when talking about file system, so I didn't understand if he means that it is risky and that it can cause data loss | 17:29 |
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| Guest70 | oerheks ioria besides NTFS is there another file system that can be read by both Ubuntu and Windows and that I can use without risks? | 17:40 |
| oerheks | without any risks means repairable? fat32 | 17:41 |
| Guest70 | oerheks I don't know, I mean I don't want to risk data loss. I just didn't understand why in the guide ioria sent me it says that there are some disadvantages regarding filesystems and I thought that maybe there are some filesystems that are more secure than others | 17:44 |
| oerheks | there is an ext3 util to read and write on windows, not tested and certainly not with encryption | 17:45 |
| oerheks | the windows part makes it difficult, i hope someone else here has an expert view | 17:45 |
| Guest70 | the guide says: """""In this short guide, I will show you how to create an encrypted USB stick. One of the drawbacks to encrypting the device using this method is that you'll be limited to what file system you use."""""""" | 17:47 |
| Guest70 | however NTFS is present in list | 17:47 |
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| elvis | hello | 18:42 |
| oerheks | :-) | 18:43 |
| elvis | hello | 18:53 |
| elvis | hay alguien aqui con vida | 18:53 |
| oerheks | !es | 18:53 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 18:53 |
| elvis__ | hola | 19:09 |
| elvis | que tal | 19:09 |
| marco | sto imparando sorry buna serata | 19:17 |
| Guest45 | hi all, is there any way I can find a dbgsym package that are not in http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ anymore? | 19:52 |
| oerheks | what package exactly? | 19:52 |
| oerheks | and for what ubuntu version? | 19:52 |
| Guest45 | linux, but with dbgsym | 19:52 |
| Guest45 | 12.04 | 19:52 |
| Guest45 | I can see dbgsym file was generated (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/101184666/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.linux_3.2.0-23.36_BUILDING.txt.gz) but can't find it to download | 19:53 |
| Guest45 | I just want to study a bug on that version | 19:54 |
| leftyfb | Guest45: ubuntu 12.04? | 19:55 |
| leftyfb | Guest45: you mean the release that went End of Life almost 8 years ago? | 19:55 |
| oerheks | nope http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ | 19:56 |
| Guest45 | leftyfb: yeap, I'm studying this version | 19:56 |
| leftyfb | Guest45: Ubuntu 12.04 is no longer supported. Study 22.04 or 24.04 | 19:57 |
| Guest45 | thanks leftyfb | 19:57 |
| oerheks | only the old isos are there https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ | 19:57 |
| Guest45 | oerheks: it was built back there: https://web.archive.org/web/20121118005111/http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ | 19:57 |
| Guest45 | I can find old isos and packages, but not ddeb packages | 19:57 |
| oerheks | i see the list but the files are not there, sorry, no way to find them | 20:00 |
| oerheks | put this question on askubuntu or stackexchange, maybe you get lucky | 20:00 |
| kuka_lie | there might be some ubuntu mirror that has those | 20:01 |
| oerheks | kuka_lie, nope. | 20:01 |
| oerheks | serverspace costs money, and such old versions are abandoned after a few years | 20:02 |
| JanC | it might be possible to recreate them... | 20:02 |
| Guest45 | I hope so kuka_lie but I doubt that | 20:03 |
| Guest45 | JanC: do such build is complex? I never did it before | 20:05 |
| Guest45 | I'll look for mirrors not updated, if not lucky I'll try it | 20:05 |
| kuka_lie | btw is it possible to install .deb made for debian 12/11 in ubuntu | 20:07 |
| leftyfb | kuka_lie: it's not supported | 20:07 |
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| gmachine24 | Hi running Ubuntu Server 22.04.05 had trouble when updating - there was a linux-firmware package that would not update - I do not have the exact error message - but something was corrupt. Sorry to be so vague. Today when running the update command again I got the message that there are two install candidates - and now I am lost. Here is the text https://pastebin.com/t2ApsSnm | 22:15 |
| oerheks | i have linux-firmware (20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu3.36) installed, updatesd yesterday? | 22:18 |
| leftyfb | gmachine24: sudo apt install linux-firmware | 22:18 |
| oerheks | linux-firmware/jammy 20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu1 was from 2022-04-01 | 22:21 |
| gmachine24 | huh. well, that worked fine - I was a little afraid because I could not install the linux-firmware update yesterday. | 22:21 |
| gmachine24 | I do not know how often firmware updates come out but I'm guessing it's more frequently than every 30 months | 22:23 |
| oerheks | when there is a reason to do so.. | 22:24 |
| gmachine24 | ok | 22:26 |
| gmachine24 | the error message when trying to install the linux-firmware package yesterday was Upgrade: linux-firmware:amd64 (20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu3.35, 20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu3.36) | 22:35 |
| gmachine24 | Error: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 22:35 |
| gmachine24 | anyway, it's fixed. thanks. | 22:36 |
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