| === mrpond6 is now known as mrpond | ||
| sandy | Miss | 02:09 |
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| DarkLordofDebian | How's it going de-facto | 03:33 |
| de-facto | all good now | 03:56 |
| DarkLordofDebian | Excellent! | 04:12 |
| caleb_ | Hello! Just testing out hexchat, is anyone active? | 06:55 |
| caleb_ | Hello, can yall see this? | 06:57 |
| Goldschlager120 | yup | 06:58 |
| lotuspsychje | we see you | 06:58 |
| caleb_ | Sweet, i appreciate you! | 06:58 |
| caleb_ | im new to irc, how can you tell if someone is really someone? do you register somewhere? | 06:59 |
| Cjefke | !nl | 08:28 |
| ubottu | Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl | 08:28 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome Cjefke | 08:31 |
| Cjefke | ty | 08:31 |
| lotuspsychje | how can we help you | 08:31 |
| Cjefke | yeah i am looking for a Windows Installer for Ubuntu, any suggestions? | 08:32 |
| Cjefke | tldr; wanna install Ubuntu without disc/usb... Just wanna install Ubuntu for multi-boot in Windows...But can't find it anywhere, possiblew? | 08:33 |
| lotuspsychje | Cjefke: wubi is a depraced install method | 08:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Cjefke: you can try making a multiboot media with the not official tool ventoy | 08:35 |
| lotuspsychje | Cjefke: you want to install ubuntu from within a windows desktop, is that what you're after? | 08:37 |
| Cjefke | yes | 08:37 |
| Cjefke | thats what i want | 08:37 |
| Cjefke | :p | 08:37 |
| Cjefke | thanks gonna try it i think | 08:37 |
| lotuspsychje | thats not what ventoy does | 08:38 |
| lotuspsychje | it just makes a multi iso media install method | 08:38 |
| lotuspsychje | Cjefke: there is also a method you can install iso's from grub if you like | 08:45 |
| lotuspsychje | Cjefke: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot | 08:46 |
| Cjefke | ty | 08:47 |
| danus8 | quit | 09:03 |
| === noord_ is now known as noord | ||
| === u0_a1032 is now known as kiro | ||
| === lubuntu is now known as nodbutu | ||
| === nodbutu is now known as lubuntu | ||
| === iwannaberoot18 is now known as iwannaberoot1 | ||
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:37 |
| kuka_lie | BluesKaj: hi | 13:25 |
| BluesKaj | hi kuka_lie | 13:28 |
| Lore | Greetings! ^^ | 13:59 |
| mgedmin | "firefox will quit and update in -1064466154 minutes" thank you snapd | 14:46 |
| topolin | Hello | 15:34 |
| topolin | I Just installed the system on a encrypted drive, but it says no key for this passphrase, cryptsetup failed | 15:34 |
| topolin | The password is indeed right | 15:34 |
| Lore | topolin, greetings! It's frankly challenging to suggest anything without knowing the exact initial steps performed for the setup. | 15:35 |
| Lore | Therefore, please check the following: | 15:35 |
| Lore | 1. https://stackoverflow.com/a/70050795/5113030 | 15:35 |
| Lore | 2. https://askubuntu.com/a/1123342/449016 | 15:36 |
| topolin | @lore: I tested if I was typing the password wrong by performing cryptsetup luksOpen on livecd, the password was correct | 15:38 |
| topolin | I just encrypted the drive by following the steps in the installer | 15:39 |
| Lana | hi | 15:40 |
| Lore | topolin, that's awesome to know! Please keep it safe! | 15:40 |
| topolin | What's awesome? How can I fix something that's fresh Installed? Knowing I did nothing wrong and the password is correct | 15:42 |
| rootuser123 | heyo guys | 15:46 |
| rootuser123 | im in the virtualbox | 15:46 |
| * oerheks prefers KVM | 15:47 | |
| rootuser123 | ... | 15:47 |
| rootuser123 | welcome | 15:48 |
| oerheks | .clear | 16:43 |
| === ubuntu__4321 is now known as ubuntu4321 | ||
| slava | hello | 17:37 |
| slava | something peculiar is happening to my system and i'm wondering about other people's experience | 17:38 |
| slava | previosuly i made sure to prevent Ubuntu from installing updates without my consent | 17:38 |
| slava | now, all of a sudden, i get this notification telling me to update the system with the classic options: "now" and "later" | 17:39 |
| oerheks | slave on what ubuntu version? | 17:39 |
| oerheks | 22.04 gets the message there is a newere LTS... | 17:39 |
| slava | 24.04 | 17:39 |
| oerheks | oke | 17:40 |
| slava | this is especially infuriating because most of the time when i work, i have really bad internet, and it would be really bad if a chunk of my connection was occupied by the system, installing MEGABYTES of data instead of letting me do my job! | 17:40 |
| oerheks | so you get the question, so it obeys your decision. | 17:40 |
| oerheks | you can cancel it, no? | 17:41 |
| slava | no, i can just tell it to install the update "later" | 17:41 |
| oerheks | oke, later means it will ask later, again. | 17:41 |
| slava | how do i fix that? how do i tell my system to load updates only when i ask it to? | 17:42 |
| ravage | it does not download anything until you click yes | 17:43 |
| oerheks | i think you just need these 3 steps, and step 4 is to check it https://linuxconfig.org/disable-automatic-updates-on-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-jellyfish-linux | 17:43 |
| slava | no it already downloaded. it says it needs the laptop turned off so that the update can be installed | 17:43 |
| mgedmin | that does not sound like any ubuntu update I've ever seen? maybe a firmware update (but it needs a reboot, not a power off)? or a snap update (but that one asks to quit apps, not turn off laptop)? | 17:45 |
| ravage | right | 17:45 |
| oerheks | maybe firefox? | 17:45 |
| ravage | there is no background download of any updates except snaps | 17:45 |
| oerheks | some weird firefox update behaviour i have seen | 17:46 |
| slava | this widget is nothing i've seen before. i HOPE it's just malware i catched. its text includes "system update required" | 17:47 |
| slava | i followed the instructions given by oerjeks. i hope this won't bother me again. thank you | 17:48 |
| slava | i do wonder though, it's not okay to not let me cancel the update, right? "remind me later" is universally accepted to be a ransom technique | 17:49 |
| slava | i don't have to prove that Canonical shouldn't act like Microsoft in this regard. when a piece of software demands my consent without giving me an option to silence it, there is no rationale other than that Canonical will profit from the update. | 17:51 |
| ravage | you were given information on how to disable automatic updates | 17:51 |
| ravage | if you want to discuss Ubuntu and do not have any support question please use #ubuntu-discuss | 17:52 |
| slava | oh, sorry about that | 17:52 |
| marcos | i | 18:26 |
| === Sidewyz1 is now known as Sidewyz | ||
| oerheks | 19:09 | |
| Hiryu | I can't post to Ubuntu discourse. I get the following message when clicking on the create topic button: " | 19:42 |
| Hiryu | An error occurred: Access Denied | 19:42 |
| Hiryu | expected that to paste on the same line | 19:43 |
| Hiryu | is this just me or is this happening to others? I've never posted before | 19:43 |
| kuka_lie | Hiryu: what you are trying to post. if it has <> or something code looking it might block it | 19:47 |
| Hiryu | includes output from dkms | 19:50 |
| Hiryu | so that might quality | 19:50 |
| Hiryu | Should I use something like paste bin and include a link instead? | 19:50 |
| Hiryu | I have it in side of ``` ``` | 19:52 |
| kuka_lie | Hiryu: https://paste.debian.net/1336567 | 20:12 |
| masterandcomande | o7 | 20:14 |
| Hiryu | kuka_lie: thanks | 20:22 |
| Hiryu | I already saved my content to paste bin, but no change | 20:22 |
| * Hiryu cries | 20:22 | |
| masterandcomande | the machine defeat humans? | 20:25 |
| oerheks | do you have an Ubuntu support issue, masterandcomande ? | 20:26 |
| masterandcomande | no just i want talk | 20:27 |
| masterandcomande | i have Ubuntu updated | 20:27 |
| oerheks | this is not the social channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic | 20:27 |
| masterandcomande | i understand | 20:28 |
| soloslinger | Hey all. I'm trying to port this old 18 system from ext4 to xfs for reasons that are stupid. But, I am trying to get it done. rsync, mounts, chroot, working on grub. Grub wants to say that it doesn't recognize the filesystem for grub-install. What stitch am I missing? | 20:36 |
| frostschutz | soloslinger, try with --recheck and --verbose. it could also be that grub does not support all xfs feature flags, these change from time to time | 20:51 |
| soloslinger | frostschutz: I definitely tried the --recheck, though I could have PEBKAC'd that attempt too. I am human. But it wasn't for lack of effort. | 20:54 |
| soloslinger | the 18 iso is still available, so I'm building a vm off of one of those to see what kinda delta I got. I do have a personal license for post EoL support, so I could prolly plop that on there and get grub & kernel upgraded. | 20:56 |
| soloslinger | Just wondering if I'm missing something obvious. | 20:56 |
| oerheks | extended support does not cover all packages, be aware of that. just the 2300 packages in the Ubuntu main repository. | 21:04 |
| oerheks | and booting from XFS, never done that.. | 21:05 |
| Lore | Perhaps an actual error shared with actual steps done could reveal a bit about the issue no one knows about. | 21:06 |
| soloslinger | Lore: Mount source drive on system. Mount destination drive on system. Mimic the partitioning on the target drive. Rsync between the two. Set up the system mount points, (proc, sys, dev, etc). chroot into the destination. grub-mkconfig, grub-install, exit, attempt to boot, "error: unknown filesystem". | 21:10 |
| soloslinger | I'm not changing CPU arch types or anything like that. | 21:11 |
| soloslinger | remount the destination, grub-install --recheck /dev/<device>. "Installing for i386-pc platform." "grub-install: error: unknown filesystem." | 21:13 |
| oerheks | i find tons of issues/posts with 32 bit systems and XFS.. | 21:15 |
| soloslinger | I found that curious as well? It's not a 32 bit vm though. Just figured that it was legacy naming. | 21:16 |
| oerheks | so your first thought is right; for reasons that are stupid | 21:16 |
| soloslinger | oerheks: Oh believe me, I know. And who I am doing this for is going to hear about it when it doesn't produce the results they think it will. | 21:17 |
| soloslinger | Unfortunately, the powers that be want me on this fool's errand. "MongoDB docs strongly recommend xfs! If I'm going to address our problems with our <old as balls> Mongo install, I want to test on xfs instead of ext4!" Uhh, dood. I can move the data directory easy-peasy. "NO!! IT ALL HAS TO BE ON XFS!" | 21:20 |
| oerheks | why not keept ext4, and mount that xfs somewhere? | 21:21 |
| soloslinger | For like a 12GB Mongo database. I'll fit that in a RAM disk comfortably if we're that worried about it. | 21:21 |
| oerheks | ow wait, 32 bit | 21:21 |
| soloslinger | oerheks: Because you and I are using logic. My coworker is not. | 21:21 |
| soloslinger | Nah. It's 64. That's just I think a legacy grub thing? I'm digging for other switches I can throw to grub-install. | 21:22 |
| frostschutz | soloslinger, which version of grub are you using, and which version of xfsutils. example of feature flag that I meant earlier https://lore.kernel.org/all/f9ef6247-1073-e80c-f3e2-3630ea570421@redhat.com/T/ - if it is something like this, then your grub/xfs is incompatible to each other, and no install flag will help | 21:24 |
| frostschutz | you could either update grub or disable incompatible flags at mkfs.xfs time | 21:25 |
| frostschutz | or just provide an efi partition that grub can use, ignore xfs in grub altogether | 21:25 |
| soloslinger | grub2-common/bionic-updates,now 2.02-2ubuntu8.26 amd64 [installed] | 21:25 |
| soloslinger | xfsutils is not installed. | 21:25 |
| soloslinger | mkfs.xfs | 21:26 |
| soloslinger | Ugh. EFI makes me sad in the pants. But you might be right. | 21:26 |
| frostschutz | or ext2 /boot, or whatever. grub has a ton of features but, limited support for stuff and xfs is quite active in its development so incompatible changes occur | 21:27 |
| soloslinger | Yeah. I keep an ear to the ground. I know xfs has been getting a lot of action lately. | 21:27 |
| soloslinger | The ext2 play is something I haven't considered. | 21:28 |
| frostschutz | or you try build grub from current git version (or maybe there is a newer build in a ppa) and see if it works | 21:28 |
| soloslinger | I'm not trying to build grub. I'm trying to lift & shift a given vm from ext4 to xfs. So I'm not "upgrading" or "installing" much of anything. | 21:29 |
| === Sidewyz1 is now known as Sidewyz | ||
| brunytu | hello! I just recently installed Ubuntu (coming from Windows) and when I boot I see some error about missing an EFI partition on the splash screen. how do I fix this? | 22:09 |
| soloslinger | brunytu: Does the system finish booting or does it stop at the error? | 22:12 |
| brunytu | it continues and enter ubuntu | 22:13 |
| soloslinger | If you get to the desktop, why worry about it now? | 22:15 |
| brunytu | becouse the startup takes more time | 22:16 |
| oerheks | so you installed in legacy mode, you might want to try again, Ubuntu supports UEFI fine, make sure you start with a clean disk, so it can create the EFI partition at the start | 22:16 |
| oerheks | !uefi | 22:16 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 22:16 |
| jluc | btw i had to remove uefi security (i think this is it) when installing ubuntu | 22:18 |
| jluc | should i activate it now that ubuntu is installed ? | 22:18 |
| soloslinger | If the worst thing is it boots a touch slow, there are worse things in the world. Those that are infatuated with boot speed I've always kinda found weird. | 22:18 |
| brunytu | thank you | 22:19 |
| soloslinger | jluc: m2c, the less efi, the better. Unless you're really interested in it, if you got a working system, stay with it. | 22:20 |
| soloslinger | brunytu: I don't mean to disparage you! But if you're just getting started, it might be sensible to play with a working system and get to learn the ropes. Then you can tune down faster once ya got your beak wet. | 22:21 |
| oerheks | bad advice, i just wrote UEFI is fine, soloslinger | 22:21 |
| soloslinger | Said differently, if you got a working Ubuntu install and coming new to Linux from Windows, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. | 22:21 |
| oerheks | ... | 22:22 |
| soloslinger | oerheks: I find it clumsy as F. That shim. F that shim. | 22:22 |
| oerheks | jluc, yes, start over with UEFI enabled | 22:22 |
| jluc | :-) | 22:22 |
| sonicwind | no secure boot, no shim :-P | 22:22 |
| soloslinger | sonicwind: Seems so simple doesn't it? | 22:23 |
| oerheks | same to brunytu | 22:23 |
| jluc | think it was labelled "secure boot" | 22:24 |
| soloslinger | uuhh.... | 22:24 |
| oerheks | yes, it is. fastboot is something else, disable that. | 22:24 |
| oerheks | * if not disabled | 22:25 |
| oerheks | see the UEFI factoid | 22:25 |
| soloslinger | Granted, when I was doing appliance imaging I was working off one of the RedHat derivatives. But if you're writing for arbitrary hardware to image, ya need the shim. | 22:25 |
| soloslinger | ls /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi | 22:26 |
| u0_a1032 | hi | 23:03 |
| === u0_a1032 is now known as kiro | ||
| kiro | hi | 23:03 |
| kiro | is there anyone know how to hack website | 23:04 |
| kiro | if you know, call me | 23:04 |
| kiro | see ya | 23:05 |
| rbox | rofl | 23:06 |
| soloslinger | It's like they don't even try anymore. | 23:10 |
| Everything | Hi all. How to get alsamixer work with bluetooth headset? Or how to change bluetooth volume via console? | 23:31 |
| === JoeBk is now known as Guest1156 | ||
| soloslinger | Everything: I hear ya. I don't have an answer. Not quite what I've done in a long while. But I hear ya asking. | 23:40 |
| JanC | normally bluetooth devices are used through pulseaudio or pipewire | 23:40 |
| JanC | Everything: ^ | 23:40 |
| Everything | JanC: thanks | 23:41 |
| JanC | other audio devices too | 23:41 |
| JanC | Everything: is there a reason why you want to use ALSA? | 23:42 |
| JanC | or is it just you want to use the commandline? | 23:42 |
| Everything | JanC: just want to use console or commandline | 23:44 |
| JanC | you can install 'pulsemixer' or 'pamix' to get something similar to alsamixer but for pulseaudio | 23:55 |
| JanC | Everything: ^ | 23:55 |
| Everything | JanC: thanks | 23:58 |
| Everything | JanC: pulsemixer is exactly what I needed, thanks | 23:59 |
| JanC | :-) | 23:59 |
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