| ak2766 | @tomreyn - Apologies. | 00:33 |
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| ElaineFG | Hello. Is this the place to get help with Ubuntu, please? | 00:51 |
| p0indexter | ElaineFG: ask your question if someone can help they will respond. | 00:53 |
| ElaineFG | Thanks! I'm not an expert in Ubuntu and I'm stuck on GNU GRUB Bash black screen. When I run the commands set root=(hd0,gpt3) linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 initrd /initrd.img boot, Ubuntu is starts ok, but if I reboot, I go back to GNU Grub screen. Can anyone help, please? Thanks! | 00:56 |
| ElaineFG | I also ran Boot-Repair on a LiveUSB and it didn't fix the issue. I have the Boot-repair summary if needed. | 00:57 |
| genii | ElaineFG: After successful booting you may want to issue: sudo grub-install /dev/sda then after: sudo update-grub2 | 01:00 |
| ElaineFG | Thank you, genii. I tried and it worked ok. Guess I'll have to reboot and see what happens. | 01:02 |
| genii | Keep us posted | 01:03 |
| ElaineFG | I will. Thank u! | 01:03 |
| ElaineFG | I did the reboot and was back to the GNU Grun bash screen. | 01:10 |
| genii | :-/ | 01:11 |
| ElaineFG | Is it possible that there is an issue with Bios? | 01:12 |
| genii | Probably not, if GRUB is actually starting. Some machines do require explicitly selecting the UEFI file which is associated with GRUB and told to treat it as trusted. But in this case it's running it, but then something after that is failing | 01:16 |
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| ElaineFG | I see. | 01:18 |
| genii | Usually running the sudo update-grub2 from a booted system will resolve this, so for the moment I'm out of immediate other ideas | 01:22 |
| ElaineFG | I appreciate your help! I'll look for help at the Discourse. | 01:24 |
| genii | ElaineFG: Are there multiple drives on the system, nvme drives, etc? Perhaps a pastebin of the results of the command: sudo fdisk - l ...may he useful | 01:25 |
| genii | he/be | 01:25 |
| genii | GRUB may need to be installed to devices other than /dev/sdX | 01:26 |
| ElaineFG | Yes, I have 2 drives. | 01:29 |
| ElaineFG | Dispositivo Início Fim Setores Tamanho Tipo | 01:29 |
| Bashing-om | ElaineFG: ^ also another thought - what is set in the bios firmware as the 1st boot priority ? | 01:30 |
| ElaineFG | 1st boot priority is set to Ubuntu. There are no EFI or Legacy options. | 01:31 |
| genii | If the drives are seen as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb then doing the: sudo grub-install /dev/sda .. should also be followed by: sudo grub-install /dev/sdb ..and then again with: sudo update-grub2 | 01:33 |
| genii | So that no matter which one the computer tries to boot first it should work | 01:34 |
| ElaineFG | Hmmm, I hadn't tried that. Let me see if it works. | 01:34 |
| Bashing-om | ElaineFG: "set to Ubuntu" is ambiguous - that could be either drive // what you want in this case, as you boot sda from grub, is that 1st drive is priority one. | 01:35 |
| cowreline | hello | 01:35 |
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| ElaineFG | There are 2 Ubuntu options to boot and they seem the same. I don't know if they're the same or one is sda and the other sdc. | 01:36 |
| Cowji | evening, or morning? | 01:39 |
| ElaineFG | I'll reboot now. BRB | 01:39 |
| ElaineFG | I'm back with no news. Lol. | 01:43 |
| ElaineFG | The Boot options are: | 01:45 |
| ElaineFG | Ubuntu (P0: WD Green 2.5 480GB) | 01:45 |
| ElaineFG | P2: MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ8C2 S | 01:45 |
| ElaineFG | Realtek PXE B04 D000 | 01:45 |
| ElaineFG | ubuntu (P0: WD Green 2.5 480GB) | 01:45 |
| ElaineFG | Disabled | 01:45 |
| ElaineFG | Disco /dev/sda: 447,13 GiB, 480103981056 bytes, 937703088 setores | 01:49 |
| ElaineFG | Disk model: WD Green 2.5 480 | 01:49 |
| ElaineFG | Unidades: setor de 1 * 512 = 512 bytes | 01:49 |
| ElaineFG | Tamanho de setor (lógico/físico): 512 bytes / 512 bytes | 01:49 |
| ElaineFG | Tamanho E/S (mínimo/ótimo): 512 bytes / 512 bytes | 01:49 |
| ElaineFG | Tipo de rótulo do disco: gpt | 01:49 |
| Bashing-om | !paste | ElaineFG | 01:59 |
| ubottu | ElaineFG: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 01:59 |
| ElaineFG | ubottu Thanks for the info! | 02:02 |
| ElaineFG | https://bpa.st/download/XOOA | 02:02 |
| Bashing-om | ElaineFG: ^ confirms the WD drive as sda - and I do expect that Ubuntu (P0: ,, means the 1st drive / now I too am out of advise on how best to proceed :( | 02:13 |
| ElaineFG | Thanks all for the help. I'll go rest now. If I can't sort this out, I'll be back here to annoy you again. Lol. =$ | 02:19 |
| scrub | salutations | 02:28 |
| Cowji | hallo | 02:28 |
| scrub | ( * ^ *) ノシ | 02:30 |
| Cowji | ^^/)) | 02:31 |
| scrub | Christmas is soon | 02:32 |
| scrub | ※\(^o^)/※ | 02:32 |
| Cowji | ....dont remember me | 02:32 |
| scrub | nuuuuu | 02:33 |
| Cowji | i love halloween... | 02:33 |
| scrub | havent celebrated it in a while... | 02:34 |
| Cowji | dark...lights... | 02:34 |
| Cowji | ? you | 02:35 |
| scrub | costumes are fun! | 02:35 |
| Cowji | halloween or christmas? | 02:36 |
| Cowji | celebrated i mean | 02:36 |
| scrub | halloween | 02:37 |
| scrub | i can never figure out what to dress as | 02:37 |
| Cowji | yeha i do... i hope next year... | 02:37 |
| scrub | next year ill go all out | 02:38 |
| scrub | ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻ | 02:38 |
| Cowji | haha for what? | 02:39 |
| scrub | halloween of course | 02:41 |
| scrub | since i missed it this year | 02:41 |
| scrub | i have to make up for it next year | 02:41 |
| Cowji | oh ok, i thought you have a bigger adventure xD | 02:42 |
| scrub | lol i wish | 02:43 |
| scrub | but im happy with the peaceful life ٩( ๑╹ ꇴ╹)۶ | 02:43 |
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| Blankspace | Hi is there a way to know when a shell script completed. | 04:04 |
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| x88 | good morning everyone, I want to learn and contribute to our core. I would need someone to help me started with the reasonable price. I have 10+ years in programming (mostly asm and java). Please let me know if you could help, I could pay upfront to a escrow service. | 05:04 |
| ravage | Contributing to Ubuntu is free | 05:05 |
| ravage | https://ubuntu.com/community/contribute/ubuntu-development | 05:06 |
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| oerheks | contribute to our core... | 06:25 |
| oerheks | 🤣 | 06:25 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 06:36 |
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| realivanjx | why is snap telling me that firefox is still running when it is not? is this a bug? https://files.catbox.moe/vebh13.png | 06:48 |
| lotuspsychje | close snap store realivanjx and start again | 06:49 |
| ravage | killall firefox; sudo snap refresh firefox | 06:50 |
| realivanjx | i can refresh it manually but when i close firefox it wont auto update anymore for me | 06:51 |
| realivanjx | maybe firefox snap has other process names that i dont know of? | 06:52 |
| oerheks | realivanjx, some sa firefox need updated by rebooting, also weird | 08:03 |
| oerheks | c/sa/say | 08:03 |
| oerheks | weird | 08:03 |
| oerheks | reboot and see again | 08:03 |
| realivanjx | yea thats after rebooting and logging in. firefox hasnt started yet and i just go to the snap store and it stays quit to update | 08:06 |
| realivanjx | maybe because i always use it but it is still annoying to not immediately install updates when i close it | 08:07 |
| oerheks | snap refresh or sudo apt update | 08:28 |
| realivanjx | so ubuntu has startup sound now huh | 09:35 |
| realivanjx | pretty long one too | 09:35 |
| daft | since asterisk isnt in debian stable how Secure is asterisk in Ubuntu | 11:09 |
| ravage | it is only in universe so consider it unstable and bugged | 11:10 |
| daft | ravage, it isnt unstable | 11:12 |
| ravage | why do you even ask then? | 11:14 |
| daft | ravage, do you know the diffrence between funcionality and security? | 11:21 |
| ravage | i know when to stop a useless discusstion | 11:24 |
| === vardhan is now known as vpw | ||
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| Bardon | Hello, I have an old VAIO laptop, which has an NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 640M LE] (rev a1). `ubuntu-driver` doesn't find drivers for my GPU. I am on 24.04 LTS. How can I get my GPU working? | 12:23 |
| ravage | the nouveau driver in the kernel should just work | 12:24 |
| Bardon | The correct driver is probably not available in 24.04 for some reason. I can't figure out which version of the driver I need, and in which version of Ubuntu it would be available | 12:24 |
| ravage | there is no other driver for Linux for your card | 12:25 |
| Bardon | There is the closed source one, no? | 12:25 |
| ravage | there is. but it does not support your card | 12:25 |
| Bardon | I believe it used to support it. Can I not get an old version of that driver ? | 12:26 |
| ravage | https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?id=pci:10de-0fd3-104d-909a | 12:26 |
| ravage | the latest supported version is 418 | 12:26 |
| Bardon | Nice website! | 12:27 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:28 |
| Bardon | I was trying to play this game: https://opengoal.dev/docs/usage/installation/, which needs OpenGL 4.3 | 12:28 |
| Bardon | Is that compatible with the nouveau driver? | 12:28 |
| ravage | Did you just try ? | 12:32 |
| Bardon | Yes, I have a warning saying I need opengl 4.3 | 12:32 |
| ravage | So the answer is probably no then | 12:32 |
| Bardon | Right | 12:33 |
| Bardon | So how can I get the nvidia driver on my laptop? | 12:33 |
| ravage | But that seems to be a limitation of the card and not the driver | 12:33 |
| ravage | https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gk107.g109 claims 4.6 | 12:35 |
| Bardon | Hmm, nice, thanks :) | 12:35 |
| Bardon | So what options do I have? Install the nvidia driver? Or is there another way? | 12:36 |
| ravage | https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/226760/ | 12:38 |
| ravage | so you would need to find a kernel that is compatible with that driver | 12:38 |
| ravage | there is a package nvidia-dkms-470 | 12:39 |
| ravage | so you could give that a try | 12:39 |
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| jaco | hELLO | 16:49 |
| jaco | I please get the below feedback when i want to enter my partition on my hdd | 16:51 |
| jaco | Unable to accesse location | 16:51 |
| jaco | Error mounting/dev/sda4../../../ | 16:51 |
| jaco | pls help | 16:51 |
| jaco | https://imgur.com/JBhUptg | 16:55 |
| kuka_lie | jaco: what you mean? do you want to mount it? | 16:56 |
| kuka_lie | sudo mount /dev/your_drive /where/you/want/to/mount/it | 16:56 |
| oerheks | looks like some issues , run a fsck on that sda4 | 16:57 |
| jaco | @kuka_lie yes, even if i mount i get the same feedback | 16:57 |
| oerheks | sudo fsck /dev/sda4 | 16:58 |
| jaco | okay pls give me the terminal command | 16:58 |
| jaco | thank u | 16:58 |
| oerheks | did it ever mount? | 17:00 |
| jaco | https://imgur.com/65ouF9B | 17:01 |
| jaco | above is the feedback i am getting | 17:02 |
| jaco | it did not mount | 17:02 |
| oerheks | so you entered the command, why posting that? | 17:02 |
| jaco | wanted u to know the feedback | 17:03 |
| jaco | it did not change anything | 17:04 |
| jaco | suspecting the command did not work n wanted u guys to have a good look | 17:04 |
| oerheks | not showing what happened after that command is useless, did you get prompt back or what happened? | 17:06 |
| oerheks | you can use the disks util too, to check the partition | 17:07 |
| randyM | Hey guys | 17:08 |
| jaco | will have a look | 17:08 |
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| TallGem | Does fwupd install firmware updates automatically by default? Does it share any sensitive hardware identifiers with fwupd.org? | 17:50 |
| oerheks | fwupdmgr security --force # shows what has been updated, and the Q to share. no sensitive parts are send to get updates | 18:03 |
| mgedmin | fwupd checks for updates, but doesn't install them automatically -- you should get a prompt telling you that an update exists | 18:04 |
| oerheks | indeed, as part of the update dialog box | 18:04 |
| mgedmin | firmware updates tend to require reboots, and sometimes have restrictions like a/c power plugged in or battery above a certain level | 18:04 |
| mgedmin | I don't know about sensitive hw identifiers -- I imagine it might share hardware model numbers but not serial numbers? idk tbh | 18:05 |
| oerheks | there is #fwupd here on #libera too | 18:06 |
| oerheks | https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd | 18:06 |
| luna_3 | What the friendly happenings? It could be chrome. (I use chrome and pluma and this hexchat almost exclusively. I eschew apps as much as I can and run discord, messenger, google voice, zoom, keep, youtube, etc. in their own browser tabs. - - (My problem is that spellcheck worked. Now I have a red-line under almost every word 921 out of 25 in a seingle sentence. If I right-click the menu choices including respelling suggestions are | 18:34 |
| luna_3 | just like normal when spellcheck works.) | 18:34 |
| luna_3 | I posted in the lonely #chrome as well. | 18:35 |
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| gordonjcp | luna_3: maybe you've got the wrong language said | 18:43 |
| gordonjcp | luna_3: *set | 18:44 |
| gordonjcp | luna_3: I get things like that when Chrome thinks I am in Austria | 18:44 |
| devslash | when I run apt update I am getting an error for certain URLs that there is no release file. The repos are http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-security Release, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic Release, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-updates Release and http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-backports Release. How do i | 19:04 |
| devslash | fix this | 19:04 |
| rbox | mantic isn't supported anymore | 19:07 |
| devslash | does that mean i wont get any updates | 19:07 |
| rbox | exactly | 19:08 |
| devslash | shit... | 19:08 |
| rbox | you should use an lts if you want somethign to be supported for a very long time | 19:08 |
| devslash | which version is lts | 19:08 |
| devslash | 24.04 or 24.10 ? | 19:08 |
| rbox | 24.04 | 19:08 |
| devslash | how long is lts support for vs non lts support | 19:08 |
| rbox | https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle | 19:11 |
| devslash | ok thanks | 19:12 |
| devslash | I was putting off the upgrade until I have no choice... | 19:12 |
| candymill | Hey there, I'm using Ubuntu 22.04.5 and I'm trying to install the 'python3.10-venv' package, which yields the following error: https://bpa.st/EGWQ I already looked the error up and foudn the following: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1402456/unmet-dependencies-for-python-3-10 the suggested solution (purge & reinstall python3.10) didn't work for me | 19:13 |
| candymill | as the system crashes when I try to purge the python packages. Can anyone help with this issue? | 19:13 |
| rbox | candymill: do you have any stupid ppas enabled? | 19:15 |
| candymill | rbox sources.list.d lists deadsnakes which I activated as suggested by the askubuntu solution | 19:18 |
| rbox | well the stupid ppa is breaking things | 19:19 |
| candymill | there are a number of others, cuda, nvidia stuff | 19:19 |
| rbox | even worse than it was, if you were having errors to begin with | 19:19 |
| candymill | so just delete these for now? | 19:19 |
| candymill | Only the official jammy repositories active now, same error | 19:24 |
| oerheks | current python3.10-venv is 3.10.6-1~22.04.1 | 19:25 |
| oerheks | did you just delete the ppa, not using ppa purge? | 19:25 |
| rbox | and did you apt update? | 19:25 |
| oerheks | that would reverse packages | 19:25 |
| candymill | hm I just deleted sources.list.d and apt update | 19:26 |
| oerheks | so you kept the wrong packages, deadsnake is a notorious ubuntu breaker. | 19:26 |
| oerheks | !ppapurge | 19:27 |
| ubottu | To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html | 19:27 |
| oerheks | not guaranteed ppapurge works well for python3 | 19:27 |
| oerheks | good luck, else reinstall. | 19:28 |
| NewOld2204 | All. Sometimes it's those first mistakes that are the most difficult to see. | 19:49 |
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| oerheks | oh i though there was a support question comming. | 19:54 |
| bucky | /quit | 19:55 |
| omare | hi | 20:36 |
| oli_b | Good evening | 20:38 |
| kuka_lie | good eveing oli_b | 20:39 |
| oli_b | Anyone know where can I configure what (viewer) program to execute as default when I hit ENTER in Midnight Commander on a certain file (extension) ? | 20:41 |
| kuka_lie | ~/.config | 20:42 |
| oli_b | In .config/mc/.mc.ext.ini for each picture extension (.png, .gif etc) there is only a reference: Include=image | 20:43 |
| oli_b | and that's it. | 20:43 |
| kuka_lie | yes | 20:43 |
| oli_b | But if I hit ENTER on an image, nothing happens | 20:43 |
| oli_b | Where is this default setup | 20:43 |
| oli_b | for all images | 20:43 |
| kuka_lie | did you restart program | 20:43 |
| kuka_lie | and save file | 20:44 |
| oli_b | I did not edit | 20:44 |
| oli_b | Include=image <-- where is the default settings for all images that need to be included ? | 20:45 |
| kuka_lie | i try installing that and test what works | 20:45 |
| kuka_lie | it just uses your system default | 20:48 |
| kuka_lie | oli_b: what de you use | 20:48 |
| kuka_lie | kde gnome or what | 20:49 |
| kuka_lie | go to settings and set default image program | 20:49 |
| oli_b | I don't think it uses the system default as the file manager is nemo , and if I hit on an image in Nemo, it words | 20:50 |
| oli_b | works | 20:50 |
| oli_b | Midnight Commander uses its own. Can not be the same as system as Midnight Commander also runs in text terminals | 20:50 |
| kuka_lie | for me it uses my system default (but i use fedora) | 20:50 |
| oli_b | Ubuntu Cinnamon here | 20:51 |
| oli_b | OMFG..... should have read the .config/mc/mc.ext.ini till the end before writing here..... | 20:52 |
| oli_b | at the end of the config file there are the includes | 20:52 |
| oli_b | Include/Image section: | 20:52 |
| oli_b | Open = /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh | 20:52 |
| oli_b | The file exists and is a nice sh/bash script file that invokes the necessary viewer program... | 20:53 |
| kuka_lie | i dont have that config file | 20:53 |
| oli_b | What's Your Midnight Commander version? | 20:54 |
| kuka_lie | 4.8.32 | 20:55 |
| oli_b | Mine is 4.8.30 | 20:55 |
| oli_b | shouldn't be too much difference though | 20:55 |
| oli_b | okay, so in case of most of the image file extensions the image.sh script is trying to invoke "gqview" program from which I never heard of | 20:56 |
| oli_b | I'll edit it go eog (Eye of Gnome) | 20:56 |
| oli_b | see what happens | 20:56 |
| JanC | it doesn't just use the default? | 20:57 |
| kuka_lie | i should start using that program its really useful | 20:57 |
| bprompt | !find gqview | 20:59 |
| ubottu | File gqview found in fvwm-crystal, gnome-extra-icons, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon-redux, libgecode-doc, zsh-common | 20:59 |
| kuka_lie | JanC: i think that it uses system default if there is no config file | 20:59 |
| oli_b | OK, here is how it works: the mc.ext.ini specifies for each file type what to do when trying to quick-view with F3 and what to do when open with ENTER | 21:00 |
| kuka_lie | but i have to quit now i go to sleep its 23.00 | 21:00 |
| oli_b | in case of all image extensions MC will invoke the image.sh from the /usr/lib/mc | 21:00 |
| oli_b | and basically You can code any script in the image.sh | 21:01 |
| oli_b | for lot of cases the image.sh uses xdg-open , which program will open the file for You in Your default preferred application | 21:01 |
| oli_b | BUT you can override if You change the code.... | 21:01 |
| oli_b | if [-n "$DISPLAY" ]; then eog ... else identify ... fi | 21:06 |
| oli_b | So for the char terminal and for the X system I have some setting | 21:06 |
| oli_b | Needless to say.... it's working now. | 21:13 |
| BarnabasDK_ | why do my system display a "file not found /boot/grub" just after grub when booting - hang there for some seconds - and then proceed to boot just fine https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s858pfHfSr/ anywhere I can start to look? | 21:17 |
| BarnabasDK_ | it does not stop me from using the system - its just irritating as h... | 21:19 |
| BarnabasDK_ | obviously there is not /boot/grub | 21:21 |
| BarnabasDK_ | and also - this is AFTER the grub screen | 21:21 |
| BarnabasDK_ | sorry - that is nonsense there is a /boot/grub - directory https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KCQcrkxQf6/ | 21:25 |
| === BarnabasDK_ is now known as BarnabasDK | ||
| oli_b | BarnabasDK: is Your grub screen graphical or text screen? | 21:31 |
| oli_b | like a splash screen or something | 21:31 |
| oerheks | maybe your pools are not correctly imported into zfs | 21:32 |
| luna_3 | <gordonjcp> is gone but does anyone know how I change the lnguage set? (that's what I thought was wrong but now how to where to change it.) | 21:33 |
| oerheks | different issue, maybe the fix is working for you too , there should be no /boot/grub https://askubuntu.com/questions/1528776/missing-upgrade-of-grub-kernel-boot-list | 21:33 |
| oerheks | there is a boot/grub/ folder.. | 21:34 |
| luna_3 | Is there a THING that will suddenly put all my windows in step fashion on my screen so I can see what might be behind what... ?? | 21:35 |
| oerheks | alt tab gives an overview, on gnome | 21:35 |
| BarnabasDK | oli_b, text screen | 21:36 |
| oli_b | compiz was the master of it, showing the windows in 3D, letting You know which one is covering which | 21:36 |
| BarnabasDK | and the first paste displays the import status | 21:37 |
| BarnabasDK | (I learned that the hard way last time) | 21:37 |
| oli_b | BarnabasDK: then I have no idea. My idea was that the error message happens before grub on a text screen, that You don't see because of the splash screen, and when grub successfully runs, switches back to text screen, making the failure message appear | 21:37 |
| BarnabasDK | oli_b, me neither | 21:38 |
| BarnabasDK | oerheks, yes - check the second paste | 21:38 |
| BarnabasDK | I was too hasty there | 21:38 |
| BarnabasDK | strange thing is the system boots just fine | 21:39 |
| BarnabasDK | after the error screen I am taken to the normal login form for entering the pwd for the encrypted zfs volumes | 21:40 |
| BarnabasDK | just like expected | 21:40 |
| oli_b | BarnabasDK: Do You have a separate mount for /boot , or is it on the same partition as / ? | 21:41 |
| oli_b | What if it is not mounted at the first check, and at the second try, some seconds later, it is mounted | 21:41 |
| BarnabasDK | oli_b, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/92kG42XjVy/ | 21:42 |
| BarnabasDK | so I guess only one partition | 21:42 |
| BarnabasDK | or - boot is in / | 21:42 |
| oli_b | bpool/BOOT/ubuntu_9jipvg on /boot type zfs | 21:43 |
| BarnabasDK | ah - didn't catch taht | 21:43 |
| BarnabasDK | that | 21:43 |
| oli_b | what if the 'file not found' occurs when it is checked too early and the /boot is not mounted yet | 21:43 |
| BarnabasDK | I see - maybe I should just add a longer timeout to grub | 21:44 |
| oli_b | some seconds later it is already mounted so the system can continue boot up | 21:44 |
| BarnabasDK | oli_b, good point | 21:44 |
| oli_b | just guessing | 21:45 |
| oli_b | I am just a happy and grateful user of linux, not some kind of hardcore sysadmin.... | 21:45 |
| BarnabasDK | well I am, but mostly FreeBSD | 21:45 |
| BarnabasDK | and this is a laptop not a server | 21:47 |
| luna_3 | I am getting almost everything underlined in red in chrome where i enter text. The guess s far (me and person not here) is that the language is set wrong. BUT.. It gives me correct information on spelling in English wheen I right-click. | 21:47 |
| BarnabasDK | so grub is not something I fiddle much with | 21:48 |
| oli_b | luna_3: this means Your spelling is terrible :-D | 21:48 |
| oli_b | luna_3: definitely check the spelling check settings. There is a language setting in Your desktop environment , as well as there is a language setting within chrome (including spell check setting) | 21:49 |
| oli_b | do these two match? | 21:50 |
| oli_b | Otherwise You could turn off the feature "check spelling as You type" as this is annoying...... | 21:50 |
| oerheks | check locales? | 21:51 |
| oli_b | oerheks: locales of the OS , as well as language setting in chrome, as they can be different | 21:53 |
| oli_b | or may be using dual locales? (native and english) ? | 21:53 |
| oerheks | oh so many translations stuff in chrome, english, and us english.. | 21:55 |
| oerheks | what language does it take to spellcheck .. | 21:57 |
| oli_b | oerheks: yeah, and this setting can be different as the OS locale (or Desktop environment locale) | 21:58 |
| Bardon | ravage: Sorry for the delay. I installed nvidia-dkms-470, ran nvidia-detector and it says None | 22:28 |
| enigma9o7 | bardon, not sure of your history, but maybe summarize the issue again? What GPU do you have? Bardon | 22:45 |
| Bardon | enigma9o7: Hello, I have a NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 640M LE] (rev a1), on a old VAIO laptop. I'd like to have OpenGL4.3 to play a game and the nouveau driver doesn't seem to be enough. I'd like to get the nvidia driver but I can't seem to find it on recent versions of Ubuntu. I tried on 24.10 and 24.04 | 22:58 |
| enigma9o7 | Hmmm yeah that GPU uses legacy 470 driver, but it should be in 24.04 (but not in 24.10) | 22:59 |
| enigma9o7 | Also, no reason you shouldn't have OpenGL working in nouveau either. | 23:00 |
| Bardon | yeah apt search does show nvidia-driver-470/noble-updates,noble-security 470.256.02-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 amd64 | 23:00 |
| Bardon | Even `ubuntu-drivers list` doesn't show anything | 23:00 |
| enigma9o7 | exactly; that's the one you need to install | 23:01 |
| Bardon | I tried, but then nvidia-detector says None | 23:01 |
| enigma9o7 | Ignore ubuntu drivers list, just `sudo apt install nvidia-driver-470` on noble. | 23:01 |
| enigma9o7 | I'm not familliar with nvidia-detector, but if you've installed the 470 driver and reboot, everything should be working. If not, share output of "inxi -G" or "glxinfo|grep ersion" in a pastebin. | 23:01 |
| Bardon | Ok I'm installing it, I'll let you know in a couple of minutes | 23:03 |
| enigma9o7 | If the driver is installed but not loading, we'd have to check logs to see why. If you have secure boot enabled, try it without it. | 23:03 |
| enigma9o7 | (As prop nvidia driver taints the kernel and sometimes requires special effort to sign to enable secure boot) | 23:03 |
| Bardon | Ok | 23:04 |
| tomreyn | https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/226760/ does list "GeForce GT 640M LE", FWIW, so yes, 470 series, and specifically version 246.02 of it, should support it | 23:04 |
| Bardon | And I'm surprised, if OpenGL 4.3 is supposed to be available with nouveau, I'd be fine running that | 23:04 |
| enigma9o7 | well does that gpu itself support gl4.3? | 23:06 |
| enigma9o7 | Looks like it should 4.6. | 23:06 |
| enigma9o7 | What makes you think its not supported on nouveau? Share the same thing on pastebin (inxi -G and/or glxinfo|grep ersion) | 23:07 |
| Bardon | enigma9o7: I thought it wasn't properly available because my game said so. The game is opengoal.dev | 23:07 |
| Bardon | enigma9o7: This is `inxi -G` after apt install nvidia-driver-470 but before rebooting. And this is glxinfo https://termbin.com/t1x7 | 23:09 |
| Bardon | I'm rebooting now | 23:09 |
| enigma9o7 | well that would be in a broken state anyway but it said only GL 4.2, hmmmmm | 23:10 |
| Bardon | enigma9o7: I'm back. This is inxi https://termbin.com/dpdc and glxinfo https://termbin.com/bi15 | 23:12 |
| Bardon | oops looks like my first inxi output wasn't sent | 23:13 |
| enigma9o7 | What is the actual error message when you run that game? "open-goal-launcher: error while loading shared libraries: libOpenGL.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 23:14 |
| enigma9o7 | Ah ok. Well that shows that nvidia-470 is loaded and you have opengl 4.6 | 23:14 |
| enigma9o7 | so I dunno what nvidia-detector is, but looks like everythiing is good? | 23:14 |
| enigma9o7 | Also note you have two GPU, one integrated into CPU I guess, so not sure how that effects things, never had a dual gpu system myself | 23:14 |
| Bardon | I'll try again running that game | 23:14 |
| enigma9o7 | but compatibility version 4.2, hmmm weird. Not sure I know enough about that to know what it means. | 23:15 |
| Bardon | game crashes, but I ignored the warning about openGL earlier and idk how to un-ignore it.. | 23:17 |
| Bardon | to figure out if it still shows up | 23:17 |
| enigma9o7 | ah ok. | 23:17 |
| enigma9o7 | Well, I do think your drivers are installed fine... but as to that game, dunno, its 3rd party and not specifically packaged for ubuntu or anything, so who knows. | 23:18 |
| Bardon | It worked fine on my work laptop that had ubuntu 24.04 installed | 23:19 |
| Bardon | with no GPU, only intel igpu | 23:19 |
| tomreyn | do you get other output with prime-run glxinfo | 23:19 |
| Bardon | I remember having to use some command to run an app with my GPU on this laptop | 23:19 |
| Bardon | Ah, might be prime-run! | 23:19 |
| enigma9o7 | Well it may be possible to disable your nvidia gpu and use your intel, but I dunno mucha bout that, seems tomreyn might tho :) | 23:20 |
| tomreyn | arch wiki to the rescue https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PRIME | 23:20 |
| Bardon | prime-run isn't found | 23:20 |
| Bardon | I only have prime-offload prime-select prime-supported prime-switch | 23:20 |
| Bardon | I set it to nvidia only, I'll reboot | 23:21 |
| tomreyn | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA_Optimus also | 23:21 |
| tomreyn | hmm maybe it's prime-switch then | 23:23 |
| Bardon | It works :D | 23:23 |
| Bardon | I set prime-switch to nvidia (rather than on-demand), rebooted and it works | 23:24 |
| Bardon | Might be better to set it to on-demand and launch only that game with the GPU | 23:24 |
| tomreyn | that's nice | 23:24 |
| Bardon | Or even better, use nouveau | 23:24 |
| tomreyn | i assume you could do the same on the nvidia-settings gui | 23:25 |
| Bardon | Yes, I saw that setting there too | 23:25 |
| tomreyn | (while using the proprietary driver) | 23:25 |
| Bardon | I'd rather use nouveau because it's free software, and available in 24.10 | 23:25 |
| tomreyn | so you'd undo the installation then, and reboot again, i guess | 23:25 |
| Bardon | to revert to nouveau you mean? | 23:26 |
| tomreyn | yes | 23:26 |
| Bardon | Does nouveau have this prime logic as well? | 23:26 |
| Bardon | Maybe I wasn't using my GPU all along | 23:26 |
| tomreyn | it has DRI_PRIME=ID as discussed on the wiki page i pointed you to | 23:27 |
| Bardon | Ah ok I'll read it up. I'm uninstalling nvidia-driver at the moment | 23:29 |
| Bardon | Right, RI_PRIME=1 ./open-goal-launcher_2.5.4_amd64.AppImage works with the nouveau driver! | 23:32 |
| Bardon | Resolution is somehow very low though | 23:32 |
| tomreyn | it's "DRI_PRIME" | 23:33 |
| tomreyn | and if resolution is low, then maybe you're actually running vega graphics | 23:33 |
| Bardon | Yes, sorry my copy paste ate that D | 23:34 |
| Bardon | I tried DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" | 23:34 |
| Bardon | and glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" | 23:34 |
| Bardon | And the output goes from OpenGL renderer string: NVE7 to OpenGL renderer string: Mesa Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) | 23:35 |
| Bardon | So it seems to work (even though I'm not sure what NVE7 means) | 23:35 |
| tomreyn | NVE7 is your nvidia cards' architecture | 23:36 |
| Bardon | Ok :) | 23:37 |
| Bardon | Well, my game seems to run fine. I can play Jak and Daxter on Ubuntu, I'm glad :D | 23:37 |
| Bardon | Thanks a lot guys! | 23:37 |
| Bardon | I'll upgrade to 24.10 then and stick with nouveau | 23:37 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome | 23:37 |
| tomreyn | https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx40&D=nouveau+NVE7&testgroup=info is what you should see in glxinfo | 23:38 |
| BarnabasDK | if one has a laptop with a normal network connection and also a wwan connectiuon though a gsm connectiuon on a laptop, why is that wwan always online after a boot? | 23:42 |
| Bardon | I see this with DRI_PRIME=1 https://termbin.com/06ed | 23:43 |
| BarnabasDK | I manually have to select it to be offline | 23:43 |
| Bardon | Can't say I see the same this. First line in gfxbench.com is "GL_ALIASED_LINE_WIDTH_MAX" and I can't see it in my glxinfo | 23:44 |
| oerheks | BarnabasDK, can you disable it in your bios? | 23:44 |
| BarnabasDK | oerheks, yes ofc | 23:45 |
| BarnabasDK | I would just like it to respect the state of the os as it was at the last reboot | 23:45 |
| Bardon | Anyways, I'm out, thanks and bbye | 23:45 |
| oerheks | if this is a thinkpad; sudo sh -c 'echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/wwan_enable' | 23:45 |
| JanC | that sounds like a bug | 23:45 |
| oerheks | or see https://ubuntu.com/core/docs/networkmanager/configure-cellular-connections | 23:46 |
| BarnabasDK | oerheks, it is indeed a thinkpad thing | 23:46 |
| JanC | isn't that "autoconnect" feature available in the GUI also? | 23:47 |
| oerheks | $ nmcli c modify <name> connection.autoconnect [yes|no] | 23:47 |
| BarnabasDK | I am just wondering if the state of the other connections survive a reboot why not the wwan one on a thinkpad? | 23:47 |
| oerheks | i have no clue why .. | 23:48 |
| BarnabasDK | oerheks, no me neither - but when you reboot a gen 9 + lenovo - the wwan gsm is always on | 23:49 |
| BarnabasDK | to the degree it goes dapadapadapa in your speakers | 23:50 |
| BarnabasDK | I think it should respect the on/off state across reboots | 23:51 |
| BarnabasDK | and not just always turn on the device on the net, and start routing IP traffic to lan/wlan | 23:52 |
| BarnabasDK | it should handle hw / os off in the same way as normal wireless networking | 23:53 |
| BarnabasDK | no bells and whistles | 23:54 |
| oerheks | well, you have 2 fixes | 23:54 |
| BarnabasDK | fix one is turning it of by hand on every reboot | 23:55 |
| BarnabasDK | that works | 23:55 |
| oerheks | fix 2 might be more usefull | 23:56 |
| BarnabasDK | I am bursting with anticipation ;-) | 23:56 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 23:57 |
| BarnabasDK | wee | 23:58 |
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