=== biodigital is now known as gnubio === gnubio is now known as biodigital === Juesto is now known as Juest === jake is now known as Guest9272 === Guest9272 is now known as sybariten === mrgollicioburdat is now known as b19230123 [08:20] 1234 [12:28] hi [12:42] Hi all [13:41] is `lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Sep 12 08:34 /usr/bin/pkill -> pgrep` an ubuntu/debian thing or is pkill just pgrep in disguise across most linux? [13:42] and how does it know which was called, "$0" or something? [13:48] iconoclast_hero, https://github.com/thlorenz/procps/blob/master/deps/procps/pgrep.c [13:49] not gitlab? https://gitlab.com/procps-ng/procps [13:50] i don't know c so i doubt that will be helpful [13:51] if (i_am_pkill == 0) ... etc. etc .. [13:57] yeah, i found a code snipet at... [13:58] https://github.com/thlorenz/procps/blob/b713185dc7b4c82d8cbc9f4be7e345f09df365bb/deps/procps/pgrep.c#L716-L727 [13:58] that is clear enough to me. [13:59] thanks [16:19] inserted === tangomango2650 is now known as tangomango265 [17:15] Podman pods run as rootless by default right ? [17:55] hello all [18:05] my therapist is upset because she's calling me on facetime and I don't do facetime calls, since her laptop isn't charged to go to the zoom meeting she emailed me about 2 weeks ago [18:27] Hey, I bought a computer with Ubuntu preinstalled. For whatever reason, this doesn't seem to come with the graphical program for installing new applications. [18:27] I've been happily installing stuff on command line, but now I'd like to browse the available Ubuntu programs. I guess I'll need to install that program with apt... But, what is the name of the package? [18:27] oops [18:28] gnome-software-center i guess [18:28] one better download the iso and put it on usb to install fresh [18:29] I already configured this so much to my liking that that option is a bit bleah. [18:29] Oh, that package does not seem to exist... [18:29] gnome-software-center, that is. [18:30] !info gnome-software [18:30] gnome-software (46.0-1ubuntu2, noble): Software Center for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Built by gnome-software. Size 695 kB / 3,131 kB [18:30] Okay, gnome-software alone seems to exist! [18:30] to download https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ [18:31] !usb [18:31] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [18:31] Thanks, oerheks :) [18:31] tuuktuuk, don't you have 'snap-store' already installed ? [18:31] have fun! [18:31] ioria, nope. [18:32] ioria that package does not seem to exist. [18:32] for recovery reasons and softing issues, it is alway handy to have ubuntu-on-a-stick [18:32] oerheks, thanks :) [18:32] tuuktuuk, 'snap list' will tell you === PowaBanga_ is now known as PowaBanga [18:32] tuuktuuk@peremoha:~$ snap list [18:32] Назва Версія Ред Відстеження Видавець Примітки [18:32] bare 1.0 5 latest/stable canonical✓ base [18:32] core22 20241119 1722 latest/stable canonical✓ base [18:32] firefox 133.0-2 5361 latest/stable mozilla✓ - [18:32] gnome-42-2204 0+git.510a601 176 latest/stable canonical✓ - [18:33] that would be gnome-software-plugin-snap [18:33] * oerheks loves synaptic package manager [18:34] tuuktuuk, it's ok... [18:34] ioria, that's what it looks like: https://bpa.st/YOGQ [18:35] tuuktuuk, interesting, that snap should be default [18:35] Yeah, the shop seems to have its very own understanding of what packages are needed and what not O.o [18:35] yep [18:36] Maybe I should indeed make a fresh install. Which is a moronic problem. [18:36] i don't know maybe you got a customized version ; oem etc. etc. [18:37] tuuktuuk, what's your kernel ? uname -r [18:37] This is a refurbished computer. Previously used by the social services of the city of Helsinki. They delete everything from the hard drives, install Ubuntu and sell the laptops cheap. [18:37] 6.8.0-49-generic [18:37] it's ok [18:37] 🐭 [18:37] Doesn't make much sense for there to be anything oem specific. [18:38] Although, when this thing boots up, the screen show's both Lenovo's logo and Ubuntu's logo... [18:38] that is right, it shows hardware logo [18:38] So, maybe it is some weird version anyway? Although, because I also work for the city of Helsinki, albeit for a different branch, I know that they absolutely don't use anything else than Windows for the work computers. [18:39] here it does ASrock [18:39] oerheks, so, that's just a normal Ubuntu thing, that it recognizes what hardware it's running on? [18:39] yes [18:39] this is what they used, i guess https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview [18:39] I think I should contact them and tell that their installation is missing important pieces. [18:39] it installs, they can add programms, and delete the user [18:40] What else might be relevant to have but missing? [18:40] so, make an USB and start over, to be sure. [18:40] Yeah, I think I'll do that. But, I'd also like to help them fix their installation :) [18:41] Because it's a nice service - computers get recycled, and unemployed people get something interesting to do. [18:42] tuuktuuk, you can compare the .manifest file for the standard install [18:44] tuuktuuk, https://releases.ubuntu.com/noble/ubuntu-24.04.1-desktop-amd64.manifest [19:20] ioria: How do I get the same list from my own computer? dpkg -l seems to add some extra stuff that makes it impossible to make a diff query between the two lists. [19:22] dpkg -l | grep what you want to search [19:23] kuka_lie: I'd need to see what I've got installed on my computer so that it would be in the same format as this: https://releases.ubuntu.com/noble/ubuntu-24.04.1-desktop-amd64.manifest [19:24] idk i have used fedora for few years and i have never done that but try like apt list or something [19:31] Hey guys, I made the "Software & Updates" app run through a proxy awhile ago, and I can't figure out where is the configuration set so I can remove it. Anyone knows where could I check? [19:35] settings - Network->Proxy ? [19:36] no, i also greped the etc directory for the specific address and it's nowhere to be found [19:36] maybe /etc/apt/apt.conf, but find out what guide you followed [19:37] that file alone might not be enough [19:38] there used to be configuration set in etc/apt/apt.conf.d/80proxy and etc/environment but I removed the settings from there altogether, and I still get an error message any time i make changes in my sources [19:39] i followed the guide 3 years ago, but i might be able to find the guide now that you mention it [19:42] this is what I get https://pasteboard.co/Ul4lEQ2cWbtp.png [20:05] So I'm logged in to the server with SSH using my SSH Keys, I edit the sshd_config to allow password authentication, but I can't get the logins to work. What am I doing wrong? [20:14] EgonX: what "doesn't work" [20:14] oerheks: Here's a list of what my computer is missing from the file you linked for me: https://bpa.st/2NEQ (plus, the gnome-software package that I already installed) [20:14] The login [20:14] EgonX: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/sshd-now-uses-socket-based-activation-ubuntu-22-10-and-later/30189 [20:15] Oddly, it's locking up my connection and giving me broken pipe [20:15] oerheks: What is there that I should tell them to add to their standard installation? [20:15] oerheks: I would love to help that obscure-ish workshop get their shit together. So that other people who buy a computer from there won't have the same problems I've had. [20:15] hey guys i just installed boxes and i am getting an error when i try to add an iso. this has only happened on ubuntu. works fine out of the box on fedora 40 and 41. it says no kvm. ubuntu 24.04 LTS thanks [20:16] no pun intended of course [20:17] Thank you leftyfb that's VERY helplful [20:18] i searched synaptic for kvm and i don't see it. i do see a lot of results of packages associated clearly with virtualization [20:18] what do you think about using compiz in ubuntu? [20:20] using the debian package 46.0-1build1 [20:20] spinningCat: if you want to use it, go for it [20:20] if that helps [20:21] i was thinking about trying the flatpak but i figured i'd ask you first [20:23] leftyfb: you fixed my pain in the ass bluetooth issue yesterday so i was thinking maybe talk to you gals/guys before i screw something up [20:23] i still miss compiz's day [20:23] compiz was hot shit back in the day [20:24] i dont know why they gave up. Was it so buggy? === JanC is now known as Guest2708 [20:26] tuuktuuk, advise them to download the iso, put it on usb and do a fresh install. and explore software center? [20:26] when i first saw the desktop cube is when i started using more than one desktop. back then i thought more than one desktop was wierd coming from windows [20:26] for recovery reasons and solving issues, it is alway handy to have ubuntu-on-a-stick [20:27] a bit off topic. i apologize. [20:27] we need wobbly windows and the cube back [20:27] you got me feeling nostalgic [20:28] free the fish [20:38] tuuktuuk, dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' [20:38] gaelheart: please paste in the error. I’m pretty sure it’s telling you your system doesnt have kvm(virtualization) abilities. If this is a VM or container, that’s probably why [20:38] looking [20:39] Oops! Something went wrong! NoKVM! [20:39] that's it [20:40] i had fedora 41 on this maching a few weeks ago and i was able to use boxes to run Ubuntu 24.10 [20:40] machine rather [20:44] i checked virualization settings in my BIOS and everything is ok there === syphyr_ is now known as syphyr [20:47] (org.gnome.Boxes:22085): Boxes-WARNING **: 15:46:46.475: util-app.vala:448: Failed to execute: virsh capabilities [20:50] maybe do a fresh install of Ubuntu 24.04 LTS? [20:52] Unit libvirtd.service could not be found. is the output of sudo systemctl status libvirtd [20:54] libvirt-daemon-system isn't installed but libvirt-clients is already installed [20:55] tuuktuuk: this gets u pretty close [20:56] tuuktuuk: apt list --installed | awk -F/ '{print $1,$NF}' | awk '{print $1, $3}' [21:04] i got it working. thanks though. [22:23] Hello, I'd like to buy a laser printer. Which brands are well supported in Ubuntu? I'd like to avoid manually installing drivers [22:24] samsung, epson, hp .. avoid canon.. best is to check openprinting.org [22:25] https://openprinting.github.io/printers/ [22:26] Ok great, thanks for the link :) [22:38] I guess what I want is a driver that supports driverless printing https://openprinting.github.io/driverless/ [22:42] or you take the 5 seconds to install a package or download a ppd... lol [22:43] is there and md raid gurus around rn? [23:09] rbox: I'm buying that printer for someone that probably doesn't know how to do that [23:10] yes... clicking a very buttons is impossible [23:11] Well, they have other skills :) [23:15] torrents [23:16] lots and lots [23:20] anyone know of a libp2p based app that runs on linux? i wanna see if it works [23:22] well a search shows me this: https://snapcraft.io/libp2p-nodetrust-server [23:23] asking multiple channels, only enigma9o7 answered [23:23] grinn [23:24] for what linux, l00py ?? [23:24] oh wait, snapd can run on a potato [23:26] well I hope they gave it a few minutes before asking each channel out of courtesy for those in multiple channels, but I guess I should l00py then incase they're not paying attention here [23:26] i'm here and thinking [23:26] although all i did was web search "libp2p2 linux" and saw that in the first few results.... [23:51] thinking? to install ubuntu?