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| tolland | where does the "admin" user with uid 116 come from? i presume its like a legacy thing i don't see an admin account on recent instances? it has uid 116 , from an ubuntu 20 machine | 00:53 |
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| tolland | I tried searching in the preinst scripts but don't see any admin user being created | 00:53 |
| alt | gg | 00:53 |
| oerheks | tolland, on what linux or os? | 00:55 |
| tolland | Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS | 00:55 |
| rbox | tolland: what admin user | 00:56 |
| oerheks | that is no valid group, what is the full message? | 00:56 |
| tolland | i was attempting to create a user to receive catchall mail from logwatch/cron etc. and i ran an ansible job to create an admin user. however rather than creating it, it changed the uid of the existing admin user. | 00:57 |
| tolland | from admin/116 to admin/1005 etc. so i was trying to work out if i have broken anything. i.e. what requires or created that user in the first place | 00:58 |
| tolland | but I can't find any clues at the moment | 00:59 |
| tolland | I just spun a fresh lcx ubuntu-20 and it doesn't hve that user | 00:59 |
| tolland | s/lcx/lxc/ | 00:59 |
| rbox | then some random thing you did at some point created it | 01:00 |
| oerheks | it was maybe a group id ,type 'id' | 01:02 |
| oerheks | oh, too late now ofcourse | 01:02 |
| tolland | there was also a group admin/116 | 01:04 |
| oerheks | maybe you should reask in #ansible | 01:04 |
| tolland | so no one got an admin user with uid 116 on their machine? | 01:04 |
| tolland | it doesn't own any files | 01:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | uid is used for some nologin user but it's not "admin" | 01:07 |
| oerheks | nope, not here | 01:08 |
| sonicwind | I have rtkit:116 | 01:09 |
| tolland | cool. thanks for looking! i guess I will wait and see if anything breaks | 01:12 |
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| arraybolt3 | d | 02:10 |
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| ithri666 | hello | 03:05 |
| ankit | hey | 05:00 |
| ankit | eve | 05:00 |
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| xxy | i can't login into postfix server, it prompt ssl version error, https://paste.centos.org/view/02ddcdb5 | 05:33 |
| oerheks | xxy, what is ssl version? | 06:02 |
| xxy | oerheks: i don't know how to view ssl version | 06:03 |
| oerheks | dpkg -l | grep -i openssl | 06:04 |
| xxy | oerheks: could i view client or postfix server end ? | 06:05 |
| oerheks | for 22.40 it should be https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/3.0.2-0ubuntu1.18 ... and Dovecot v2.3.21.1... this is pretty old too Pigeonhole version 0.5.16 | 06:05 |
| oerheks | i think you have an outdated system | 06:06 |
| oerheks | start with the server | 06:06 |
| xxy | oerheks: https://paste.centos.org/view/79115020 | 06:07 |
| tomreyn | !info dovecot-core jammy | 06:07 |
| ubottu | dovecot-core (1:2.3.16+dfsg1-3ubuntu2.4, jammy): secure POP3/IMAP server - core files. In component main, is optional. Built by dovecot. Size 3,242 kB / 10,309 kB | 06:07 |
| oerheks | oh, ssl seems op2date | 06:08 |
| tomreyn | openssl error:0A00010B is usually the result of a client speaking TLS on a TCP connection where the server does not support it (handshake failure) | 06:11 |
| oerheks | sasl2-bin issue? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1501847/dovecot-imap-login-ssl-accept-failed | 06:14 |
| xxy | oerheks: https://paste.centos.org/view/38bef861 | 06:15 |
| xxy | oerheks: i have installed sasl2-bin | 06:15 |
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| elias2 | hello | 06:48 |
| elias2 | how do i mount usb without GUI | 06:49 |
| elias2 | bye | 06:50 |
| oerheks | 07:54 | |
| xxy | i have installed postfix and dovecot, i use brevo as relay because without port 25 opened , i can send mail to others only , and can't receive others mail, what else do i need to do next? | 08:15 |
| hans_henrik_ | my ubuntu24.04 sshd is ignoring the "Port" config in /etc/ssh/sshd_config , and using port 22.. any suggestions? my sshd_config: https://termbin.com/at95 and the folder /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/ is empty | 08:48 |
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| hans_henrik_ | sudo service sshd restart -> Dec 09 09:49:49 DESKTOP-EE15SLU sshd[2961053]: Server listening on :: port 22. | 08:50 |
| mgedmin | hans_henrik_: sudo systemctl daemon-reload; and then sudo systemctl restart sshd.socket | 08:52 |
| hans_henrik_ | sshd.socket ? | 08:53 |
| mgedmin | hans_henrik_: more details in /usr/share/doc/openssh-server/README.Debian.gz (search for "Socket-based activation with systemd") | 08:53 |
| mgedmin | hm, yeah, I misspelled ssh.socket, sorry | 08:53 |
| hans_henrik_ | my bad, i did that too just a minute ago. | 08:54 |
| hans_henrik_ | mgedmin: it worked, thanks! | 08:55 |
| mgedmin | actually there's a comment in /etc/ssh/sshd_config right above the #Port 22 line that also explains about systemctl daemon-reload; systemctl restart ssh.socket | 08:57 |
| hans_henrik_ | mgedmin: not in 24.04 it's not. I did a `sudo apt purge openssh-server; sudo apt install openssh-server;`an hour ago, and it's not mentioned in my sshd_config | 09:00 |
| mgedmin | ouchies | 09:00 |
| lnkin | hi | 09:38 |
| Ramattack | Hi mates | 10:56 |
| Ramattack | one little question | 10:57 |
| Ramattack | when you have a 4k monitor and want to get the most of it... in space... but ... watch at the adequate size too | 10:57 |
| Ramattack | which desktop env is better... | 10:57 |
| Ramattack | kde or gnome? | 10:57 |
| Ramattack | or perhaps gnome with wayland but not with xorg... | 10:58 |
| ikonia | the desktop is mostly irellevent | 10:58 |
| ikonia | it's more the resolution/aspect/zoom/font size | 10:59 |
| mgedmin | try both and see? I've seen a lot of complaints that some legacy apps look fuzzy in gnome when using HiDPI monitors, while KDE handles it better | 11:00 |
| mgedmin | AFAIU this is almost fixed in newer gnome-shell versions, but the fix is still behind a couple of experimental flags you have to enable manually with gsettings | 11:00 |
| Ramattack | mgedmin, which are them? | 11:01 |
| mgedmin | this might only apply to fractional zoom modes, though | 11:01 |
| mgedmin | https://release.gnome.org/47/#:~:text=enhanced%20fractional%20display%20scaling%20feature | 11:01 |
| Ramattack | and talking about wayland, xorg or both? | 11:11 |
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| Ramattack | or by the way... does affect here whether you use wayland or xorg? | 11:38 |
| lolok | gnome and kde behave very different, if you do try both, youll probably find that one is better than the other for some usability reason which would be much more impactful in how you use the machine | 11:47 |
| lolok | generally the perception is that people who like to tweak things more prefer kde and people who want things to be simpler go with gnome but thats just stereotypes | 11:48 |
| lolok | gnome in particular is quite unique in how it functions and if its not intuitive to you than youll probably hate it and go with kde | 11:49 |
| younder | I had a slight reality dysfunction. Trying to find the kernel version (yeah 6.8) I did a cd /boot && ls only to find the entire directory empty.. PANIC! WTF! I rebooted the machine. It booted just fine (lucs) and now /boot contents is back. How can this happen. My first thought was cloud init. , but that is supposed to be disabled after the first boot. Any ideas? | 12:06 |
| ravage | Probably /boot is a separate partition and just was not mounted | 12:07 |
| ravage | So try sudo mount /boot next time before you panic | 12:07 |
| younder | hrm yeah found a /dev/disk/by-uuid/<> /boot ext4 defaults 0 1 in /etc/fstab | 12:09 |
| younder | Makes sense I guess.. I mean the disk is encrypted but it still needs to read the boot image to decrypt the disk | 12:10 |
| geirha | why /dev/disk/by-uuid/... instead of UUID=... ? | 12:11 |
| younder | ask the installer | 12:17 |
| geirha | Oh, a change with the new installer perhaps? The Ubuntu 22.04 installer used UUID= for me at least | 12:19 |
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| Guest8747 | jhk | 12:47 |
| Guest8747 | hello | 12:47 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome Guest8747 | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:30 |
| kariosfox | Hello there. Helping out a friend with borked Ubuntu 16.04 install. Is there a way to run an reinstallation from within Ubuntu without a USB drive? | 14:02 |
| ravage | No. Also that version is EOL | 14:07 |
| ravage | So your friend should find a way to backup data and install a supported release | 14:07 |
| rvalue | is there any configuration setup needed on ubuntu like some files to access it remotely? | 14:23 |
| leftyfb | rvalue: define access it remotely | 14:27 |
| rvalue | ticked on all buttons in desktop sharing and remote login | 14:28 |
| rvalue | and i am using thincast to access it | 14:28 |
| rvalue | i can connect to it but once connected its all black | 14:29 |
| rvalue | as if no process is running | 14:29 |
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| mgedmin | could be a bug | 15:40 |
| satsuki600 | hello | 15:57 |
| dgargano | hi | 16:39 |
| SuperLag | We've got some boxes that are on 23.10, and we're trying to get them to 23.10.1 but I'm having issues with that. I put the output at http://termbin.com/gu6f8 | 17:47 |
| leftyfb | SuperLag: 23.10.1 isn't a thing | 17:47 |
| leftyfb | those subversions are only meant for LTS releases. 23.10 is no longer supported. Upgrade to 24.04 | 17:48 |
| SuperLag | that's what I'm trying to do | 17:48 |
| SuperLag | but it says to install all the updates first | 17:49 |
| SuperLag | and that's not working | 17:49 |
| leftyfb | did you run: sudo apt update ? | 17:50 |
| SuperLag | yes. https://termbin.com/emau | 17:52 |
| mgedmin | !eolupgrades | 17:52 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 17:52 |
| leftyfb | I think you'll be fine now | 17:52 |
| leftyfb | -updates and -backports is probably disabled for the EOL release | 17:52 |
| SuperLag | Guys. I *get* that 23.x is EOL. That's exactly what I'm trying to remedy. | 17:54 |
| SuperLag | it seems like it might just be that one IP for the mirror? | 17:54 |
| SuperLag | I can't tell | 17:54 |
| retrospectacus | What's the best way to run a command as root 8 hours after the system starts up? | 17:55 |
| leftyfb | right, so follow the eol upgrade process. Ignore the fact that you can't pull packages from -updates or -backorts | 17:55 |
| leftyfb | retrospectacus: a systemd timer | 17:55 |
| leftyfb | retrospectacus: OnBootSec=8h | 17:56 |
| mgedmin | SuperLag: the EOLUpgrades link on the help.ubuntu.com tells you what to do in your situation (short version: edit sources.list, replace $country.archive.ubuntu.com with old-releases-ubuntu.com, then do apt update && apt upgrade && do-release-upgrade) | 18:00 |
| SuperLag | sorry, had to read further | 18:00 |
| mgedmin | I haven't used it on 23.10 specifically, but I've had to use it a few times in the past | 18:00 |
| retrospectacus | leftyfb: ty | 18:03 |
| CalimeroTeknik | hi! I have a conflict between two packages owning the same file when updating a 2022 to 2024 version. How do I make apt ignore the problem and move on? | 18:10 |
| leftyfb | CalimeroTeknik: remove one of the packages, especially if there's one that is from a 3rd party | 18:10 |
| CalimeroTeknik | unfortunately it's not, and apt refuses to move on even with unrelated stuff; can't install openssh-server when the problem is that fontconfig has a conflicting file… | 18:11 |
| CalimeroTeknik | is there a toggle to ignore a package in the dependency resolution just for the upgrade, and then apt --fix-broken install takes care of the rest? | 18:11 |
| leftyfb | which packages are conflicting? | 18:12 |
| CalimeroTeknik | the truth of the matter is that it's ubuntustudio-default-settings 22.04.26.3 conflicting with fontconfig-config 2.15.0-1.1ubuntu on /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf | 18:12 |
| CalimeroTeknik | I know I'm not entitled to any support, so I just wanted to know how to ignore a package for an upgrade, like on Arch Linux's pacman option --ignore or --assume-installed | 18:13 |
| CalimeroTeknik | I normally don't touch ubuntu or its derivatives, so I just want to unblock this upgrade | 18:14 |
| leftyfb | ubuntustudio-default-settings 22.04.26.3 is from 22.04, while fontconfig-config 2.15.0-1.1ubuntu is from 24.04 | 18:15 |
| CalimeroTeknik | yeah, it's an incomplete upgrade that won't fully proceed | 18:15 |
| leftyfb | CalimeroTeknik: try upgrading ubuntustudio-default-settings | 18:15 |
| CalimeroTeknik | with apt upgrade ubuntustudio-default-settings? | 18:16 |
| leftyfb | apt install | 18:16 |
| leftyfb | sudo apt install ubuntustudio-default-settings | 18:16 |
| leftyfb | if it's still mid-upgrade, it should have the noble repo enabled and should pull from that | 18:17 |
| CalimeroTeknik | here's the output. I have indeed purged fontconfig-config in the hopes to resolve the conflict that way https://0x0.st/Xh_j.txt | 18:18 |
| CalimeroTeknik | it should probably be reinstalled now… | 18:18 |
| SuperLag | leftyfb: mgedmin: thank you | 18:18 |
| SuperLag | upgrade to 24.04 is in flight | 18:19 |
| CalimeroTeknik | here's apt install fontconfig-config https://0x0.st/Xh_e.txt | 18:19 |
| CalimeroTeknik | leftyfb, darn, I shouldn't have done dpkg --purge --force-depends fontconfig-config ubuntustudio-default-settings I guess? | 18:20 |
| leftyfb | nope | 18:21 |
| leftyfb | that's not what I recommended at all | 18:21 |
| CalimeroTeknik | I tried archlinux user habits before asking for help, oops. | 18:21 |
| CalimeroTeknik | dpkg feels really unwieldy to me, maybe I should scour the manual for options to ignore packages for an upgrade, because I think that's the only and best option now, unless someone can help | 18:22 |
| leftyfb | you really shouldn't ever use dpkg | 18:23 |
| leftyfb | unless you know what you are doing | 18:23 |
| CalimeroTeknik | well… I didn't know apt was so touchy | 18:23 |
| leftyfb | you're in a very bad state right now, it's going to take some work and frustration and potentially making things worse to get it into a working state | 18:24 |
| CalimeroTeknik | pacman or portage will basically just install whatever's missing if it comes to it | 18:24 |
| leftyfb | apt manages dependencies as well just fine | 18:24 |
| CalimeroTeknik | no, I think I have proof of the contrary, because it won't install openssh-server because of fontconfig business! | 18:25 |
| leftyfb | it has nothing to do with openssh-server. Your package manager is currently in a broken state so it won't install anything normally | 18:25 |
| CalimeroTeknik | yeah, and it's the first package manager I've come across that will refuse to install something in an unrelated part of the dependency graph. | 18:26 |
| CalimeroTeknik | but it seems to be proceeding with the upgrade now! | 18:26 |
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| betil | when will come the next mint? | 19:35 |
| ravage | Have to buy new mints | 19:36 |
| enigma9o7 | Santa might bring peppermint sticks... | 19:47 |
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| pedahzur | Are there any plans in the works to get additional bandwidth to the PPA servers? Downloads from them always seem to be quite slow. | 19:51 |
| CalimeroTeknik | leftyfb, it seems I had made the right call removing the conflicting packages (after checking that the files they contained were not breaking the system); apt --fix-broken install finished the upgrade 2022→2024 | 19:51 |
| ravage | The plan should be not to use PPAs | 19:51 |
| enigma9o7 | Hmmm, maybe you just have too much bandwidth pedahzur, that's not a comonly reported issue. | 19:52 |
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| ravage | Never had any problems downloading here too | 19:52 |
| meustation | PPA meaning what exactly? | 19:52 |
| enigma9o7 | ravage, i dont think anyone "plans" to use ppas, ppas are used when ubuntu doesn't already provide something that is wanted. | 19:52 |
| enigma9o7 | ideally one would never even want to use a PPA | 19:52 |
| pedahzur | enigma9o7: Currently getting 200-225 kB/sec. Downloads from other ubuntu servers are usually several times higher than that. | 19:53 |
| enigma9o7 | launchpad I assume, meustation | 19:53 |
| * meustation has no idea what launchpad is | 19:53 | |
| meustation | a package? a website? a server? | 19:53 |
| pedahzur | enigma9o7: Many projects use PPAs as their official source, so I have several PPAs in my sources. | 19:53 |
| ravage | launchpad.net | 19:53 |
| enigma9o7 | Ah sorry. I didn't know how basic of answer you wanted. PPA is a private apt repository hosted on launchpad which is hosted by canonical. | 19:54 |
| enigma9o7 | When you add repositories from there, you will be getting it direct from the uploader, not from canonical/ubuntu tho. | 19:54 |
| enigma9o7 | argh i said that dumb | 19:54 |
| enigma9o7 | i mean it is packaged by the uploader, you're still downloading from launchpad | 19:55 |
| enigma9o7 | point being its not as trusted as official ubuntu repos, and stuff in ppas can sometimes conflict with official repos, etc etc. | 19:55 |
| meustation | waaay above my possibilities of understanding, that's for people who can code! | 19:55 |
| leftyfb | meustation: not really | 19:55 |
| leftyfb | it's just another source to get packages from | 19:56 |
| ravage | But it's ok not to know what that is | 19:56 |
| leftyfb | that's also true | 19:56 |
| ravage | It's one of the top sources for problems reported here | 19:56 |
| ravage | So you are better off without them | 19:56 |
| meustation | ravage, I know that apt-get handles all the needs of my A.D. 4072 Penguin Typewriter | 19:57 |
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| meustation | I'm scrounging from a very rich guy from a very far away part of the world than the ones I've had the priviledge of having as a base for my pillow. | 19:58 |
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| SuperLag | sudo -- /bin/bash -c 'sed -i 's/us\.archive/old-releases/g' /etc/apt/sources.list ; apt update ; apt -y upgrade' ; sudo apt -y remove 'connectwise*' | 21:30 |
| tomreyn | irc: sudo: command not found | 21:31 |
| SuperLag | sudo do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive | 21:31 |
| tomreyn | SuperLag: are you sure you're pasting into the right window? | 21:31 |
| rubick | can you use autoinstall.yml to configure a luks encrypted system partition that doesn't use LVM? | 21:33 |
| tomreyn | soneone in #ubuntu-server might be able to answer this. but more likely, you'll want to read subiquity and curtin documentations and give it a try. | 21:34 |
| leftyfb | rubick: yes, you can | 21:36 |
| rubick | leftyfb: you wouldn't happen to have an example of this would you? I'm scouring the documentation and can't find a decent example. | 21:37 |
| leftyfb | rubick: try https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xZvxmzYN29/ | 21:39 |
| rubick | leftyfb: THANK YOU! | 21:41 |
| SuperLag | sudo reboot | 21:59 |
| leftyfb | SuperLag: wrong window | 21:59 |
| SuperLag | sudo reboot | 22:00 |
| SuperLag | ubuntu | 22:02 |
| SuperLag | sudo su - | 22:03 |
| leftyfb | :/ | 22:03 |
| leftyfb | SuperLag: please stop | 22:03 |
| SuperLag | cd /tmp ; wget http://50.126.75.82:1083/Onboarding-Milan_Laser_Linux_Server_ITSPlatform_TKNde081e52-d94a-4881-95d5-3a070ef0c0c9.run ; chmod +x Onboarding-Milan_Laser_Linux_Server_ITSPlatform_TKNde081e52-d94a-4881-95d5-3a070ef0c0c9.run ; ./Onboarding-Milan_Laser_Linux_Server_ITSPlatform_TKNde081e52-d94a-4881-95d5-3a070ef0c0c9.run | 22:03 |
| SuperLag | crap | 22:03 |
| SuperLag | sorry | 22:03 |
| SuperLag | multi-tab | 22:03 |
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