[00:54] is there anyone [00:54] to help me [00:55] how to install vs code on lubuntu 24 [00:55] use the snap package? [00:55] i find it a horrible editor ... https://snapcraft.io/code [00:57] * oerheks is Sublime fan [00:57] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_integrated_development_environments [00:57] does anyone know where the settings to disable suspend on laptop lid close are ... they are not in gnome or tweaks any more [00:58] 24.04 with ubuntu desktop [00:58] lagbox, install dconf, then loof for these settings [00:58] org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power lid-close-ac-action 'suspend' [00:58] org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power lid-close-battery-action 'suspend' [00:58] suspend to nothing [00:58] danke === syl_ is now known as syl === bobafett_ is now known as bobafett [03:10] i am from canada where are you from guys [03:11] hello moosems [03:11] Hello kerim! [03:11] where are you from [03:12] US :) [03:12] You? [03:12] Canada [03:13] Moosems do you have linux OS [03:14] I do not, I just come here because I used to have an Ubuntu machine [03:15] do you have games . i have Nexuiz video game for example ? do you want to play ? [03:15] :-) [03:15] No, unfortunately. Mac isn't great for that :/ I mainly use my computer but no games [03:15] for programming* [03:16] hi, this is ubuntu support [03:16] you are programmer ? [03:16] Yep [03:17] how to use terminal note in linux mint as i have ? do you know [03:18] !mint | kerim [03:18] kerim: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/ [03:19] this is not mint support kerim, read the topic [03:19] join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat please [03:22] where are you from guys [03:22] kerim: please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for all non-support discussions [03:22] do you have an Ubuntu support issue, kerim ? [03:24] ok i will do it then . thank you for supporting me my dear friend [03:42] what terminal do you fguys use on linux? loking for something close to iterm2 on mac [03:56] is doing snap install signal-deaktop still the way to go7 [03:57] "the way to go"? [04:02] sure beats building from source [04:09] hi, is there a way to find out which package upgrade has caused the sluggish guid experience? i raun `apt distro-upgrade` and desktop became super slow to respond to clicks (and when I'm typing in the terminal). [04:26] https://snapcraft.io/signal-desktop vs https://signal.org/download/linux/ ... [04:29] am11, search with top/htop for any process that hoggs, or run away [04:30] tons of guides, like https://vitux.com/how-to-use-htop-to-monitor-system-processes-in-ubuntu-20-04/ [04:38] oerheks: thanks. it's actually ubuntu-derived distro called bianbu for riscv. i have musebook riscv laptop, which came preinstalled with bianbu 1.0 (they are upstreaming patches to kernel so i can't switch to other distro right away). anyhow, everything was working smoothly until bianbu 2.0 was released. i ran `apt distro-upgrade` a few days ago. [04:38] now it seems mesa et al. are using softpipe hence the super slow graphics. i believe (not sure though) that it was using pvr driver before the upgrade, now it's on softpipe plan. also there doesn't seem to be any recovery media or bios/uefi on this device, so that SBI stuff with UART might help recovering back to 1.0, i doubt there is any recovery [04:38] partition but i will dive deeper if that's the only option. [04:38] as you might have guessed, vendor does not respond to emails. :/ [04:54] see topic, ubuntu only, good luck. [04:59] and it doesn't account for anything derived from ubuntu? we are not talking about something completely off-topic (like windows) are we? [05:03] you could try #linux or #riscv [05:09] I'm just looking for resources in LoRa drivers.. [05:11] a quick search gives plenty? [05:11] https://github.com/starnight/LoRa-- https://github.com/lupyuen/lora-sx1262 [05:12] maybe there are more than one,.. [05:25] Sigh, that is hardly generic, guess I gotta roll my own [05:26] how many LoRa devices are out there? [05:26] In the hundreds === jimmyb1 is now known as jimmyb === jimmyb6 is now known as jimmyb [09:43] WHA420355-SOC155694-YMH297433-WHA800477-JPL749250-APB800779 [09:48] arifendronugroho, i just thought the same :P [09:49] He sends those useless messages daily and nothing else [09:49] lovely [10:24] Is he handing out license keys to Win11 and no one notices? [10:25] that's fortunately not something we need to concern ourselves with [10:26] You seem to have never seen a windows license key before. Which is not a critique just an observation. Let's carry on. [10:47] mi ez? [11:05] Hello, after like 20s my laptop freezes, and I get a bunch of "failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED" errors. This is `smartctl -s on -a /dev/sda`: termbin.com/mdjg . Is my SSD dying? [11:06] I am on ubuntu 24.10 [11:12] Bardon: an unusual amount of errors for this young age. "SSD 1TB" sounds like this is not neccessarily a premium brand? [11:14] how is it connected? internal sata? cable? [11:14] I don't know, this is a refurbished laptop (thinkpad P51) so someone may have put a crappy drive in it [11:15] On the P51, the drive is connected via a cable to the motherboard [11:16] tomreyn: Like so https://youtu.be/5Klawxc7T_Y?feature=shared&t=100 [11:17] you could try a different cable. or, yes, a different disk. these seem to sell unter the XRayDisk brand on aliexpress (and possibly other brands). [11:18] i would not expect a software / OS issue at this time [11:21] you could try disabling NCQ or reducing the ata bandwidth to 3 gpbs, but this would surely impact performance a lot. [11:22] How could you figure out the brand of my disk? [11:22] i could not. i searched the web for the firmware version. [11:23] (and found a brand which offers ssds with the same version) [11:23] Ok [11:24] Bardon: in the BIOS can you set the SATA speed? You'd get that error if you have a 3Gbps deive on a 6Gbps port, that thinks it can negotiate 6Gbps [11:25] Bardon: also when you're buying an SSD there's really only one thing you need to take care to look for [11:25] Bardon: this (russian language) forum specifically has "SSD XrayDisk" in the headline and "VE0R6326" in the first post https://www.usbdev.ru/f/index.php?topic=11734.0 [11:25] Bardon: a Samsung EVO sticker [11:25] gordonjcp: I'll check. But that error appeared yesterday, without changing BIOS settings [11:26] tomreyn: Ok I see, thanks for the link :) [11:26] gordonjcp: Why, is it the only reliable brand? I've bought a lot of crucial [11:27] Bardon: sheer unadulterated prejudice, tbh [11:27] Bardon: it's about the only one I haven't ended up having problems with [11:27] Bardon: I do a lot of video editing so I absolutely *hammer* SSDs [11:28] you could try #hardware for hardware recommendations (i don't know whether the would appreciate that, but assume they wouldn't mind) [11:29] *theY [11:33] Is it wrong to ask for SSD recommendations there? [11:34] iassume not, but only they can tell for sure, or maybe their /topic [11:34] i.e. #ubuntu is not the right place to tell whether you shoudl ask something in some other channel [11:34] So I disabled NCQ with libata.force=noncq as a boot parameter, but it still freezes [11:34] Righ [11:34] t [11:35] I assume a crappy drive is more likely to fail than a cable so I'll replace the drive and see [11:36] good luck! [11:39] Thanks a lot for your help :) [12:29] hello chan, is this the proper channel to ask for assistance in upgrading jammy to numbat ? [12:30] yes mathdesc [12:31] !details | mathdesc [12:31] mathdesc: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [12:31] I ran in some issues with lots of DEBUG Failed to find a replacement for acpi-support in /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log [12:32] lsb_release -a [12:32] No LSB modules are available. [12:32] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [12:32] Description: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS [12:32] Release: 22.04 [12:32] Codename: jammy [12:34] mathdesc: start your story from the beginning please, you did the upgrade succesfully? [12:34] Hi all [12:36] oh sorry no I tried but the installer failed [12:37] mathdesc: the installer in setup stage, or did it fail after trying to upgrade packages? [12:38] It failed when trying to calculate the modification prior to update [12:39] So check for any 3rd party repos and packages . Remove them and try again [12:40] If the problem persists use a pastebin to provide the logs [12:42] remove 3rd parties is like commenting all entries found by grep -R "# deb" /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list right ? [12:42] did that without luck [12:43] Good first step. But that does not remove any installed packages from those repos [12:44] ok well but if I remove them, then they won't be upgraded would they ? [12:44] Right [12:44] You need to check if they compatible with the new version manually [12:45] Add them again. And install the packages [12:45] my monitors keep turning on, even when the screen is locked. How do I disable this? [12:45] Pull the plug [12:47] ok @ravage so you suggest that I remove jammy's third parties installed, then *try* reinstall them afterwards if upgrade succeed right ? [12:47] FKAShinobi, make sure all apps that could send notifications are closed ... that usually happens if you get i.e. a "new email" notification [12:47] I'd try removing acpi-support as it seems no longer available in noble, then upgrading [12:49] mathdesc: yea [12:49] @sixwheeledbeast yeah but acpi is only one of many of then https://pastebin.com/4BNQ1rE4 [12:50] some many that I fear noble would then not be able to support my desktop usage... :/ [12:51] I would expect to find in the upgrade path/workflow a way to find if true or not prior to upgrade [12:52] but maybe this is actually what the installer is trying to tell me [12:52] That list wouldn't block an upgrade. [12:53] There maybe some other repo causing an issue tho. [12:53] that's just debug output, not errors [12:54] Get https://github.com/ericj112/ppa-tool [12:54] Remove all PPA paxkages [12:55] Report back [12:55] do you have a log with the actual error ? [12:58] does /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log fits ? [12:59] and/or apt.log ? [13:00] well, look around in them if you see the error that you saw [13:03] well @ogra except the pastebin finishing on a clear "ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'" I don't have any idea [13:05] did you actually do a manual apt update/full-upgrade (or dist-upgrade) before firing up the updater ? [13:05] here is the complete pastebin https://pastebin.com/TU3LjkYr [13:07] I tried both graphical and cli , I don't remember the order though sorry [13:08] i mean your existing os ... not the upgrader tool ... the release to release upgrade only works if everything on your current release is up to date [13:09] and the log taklks about "held packages", that indicates that not everything was up to date before you started [13:11] apt list --upgradable showes gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0/jammy-updates 1.2.5-2ubuntu3 amd64 [pouvant être mis à jour depuis : 1.2.5-2ubuntu2] [13:11] gstreamer1.0-packagekit/jammy-updates 1.2.5-2ubuntu3 amd64 [pouvant être mis à jour depuis : 1.2.5-2ubuntu2] [13:11] libnvidia-common-535-server/jammy-updates,jammy-updates 535.216.03-0ubuntu0.22.04.1 all [pouvant être mis à jour depuis : 535.216.01-0ubuntu0.22.04.1] [13:11] libpackagekit-glib2-18/jammy-updates 1.2.5-2ubuntu3 amd64 [pouvant être mis à jour depuis : 1.2.5-2ubuntu2] [13:11] packagekit-tools/jammy-updates 1.2.5-2ubuntu3 amd64 [pouvant être mis à jour depuis : 1.2.5-2ubuntu2] [13:13] so your system is outdated, make sure to get that fixed before even trying to do the release to release upgrade [13:16] If true, please do you have some advice ? [13:18] !eolupgrade [13:18] End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [13:18] this is 22.04 [13:19] mathdesc: if you're on an EOL release and need to upgrade, the last link there may be relevant to you. [13:19] i read about problems updating policykit on jammy yesterday [13:19] 22.04 is not EOL right ? [13:19] okay sorry, i have not followed the whole conversation, only read that ogra said the system was outdated. so it may just be a matter of apt update && apt full-upgrade [13:19] but i do not have a system available to test [13:19] 22.04 is not EOL [13:20] np @tomreyn [13:20] 22.04 is freely suppoted til 2027 and commercially until 2032 [13:22] mathdesc: so what's the output of sudo apt update && sudo apt --simulate full-upgrade [13:22] do you think this is related to this apt-key deprecation ? Do this prevents the upgrade and hold back those 6 packages ? [13:23] mathdesc: use a pastebin whenever you share more than a single line [13:24] @tomreyn ok : https://pastebin.com/Y0sSAwuc [13:26] mathdesc: before upgrading, you will need to solve the issue about the legacy apt repository signing key storage format, as described by those four warnings. [13:27] sudo cp /etc/apt/trusted.gpg /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d is a proper resolution ? [13:28] no [13:29] but the warning are not to be seen any more... but true the "apt update && apt --simulate full-upgrade" still keep back those 6 package [13:30] it is not a *proper* resolution. it is a bad workaround [13:31] you're allowing all keys to be trusted that used to be trusted, whereas you cold just store only trusted keys in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d in an easy to manage format [13:31] @tomreyn thank you yeah [13:31] the 6 held back packages are unrelated to this [13:32] apt policy gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0 gstreamer1.0-packagekit libnvidia-common-535-server libpackagekit-glib2-18 packagekit packagekit-tools should hint on why they are held back [13:33] it will be due to apt phasing or due to broken dependencies (possibly due to installed third party packages / package versions) [13:34] apt-forktracer (package name and command name) can help identify installed packages from unknown sources [13:35] https://pastebin.com/iq9QeMDL : apt-policy output (I don't understand phase terminology like 60%) [13:35] got those versions on a system right now. in case the version numbers are of interest: https://p.haxxors.com/jfsa1s9k.txt [13:37] mathdesc, phasing means only a certain amount of users (i.e. 60% in this case) gets the package, the rest will get it later [13:37] phased packages can block the release upgrade [13:37] right [13:37] the upgrader does not understand the concept of phased updates at all 🙂 [13:38] but it usually quits before even starting [13:38] it will ... eventually ... in 30.04 or so :P [13:38] https://pastebin.com/beQ9dATy : apt-forktracer output FYI [13:40] Hi! [13:40] thanks @ogra_ still don't understand the principle, or lack the humor [13:40] I'm using kde with x11 (xorg) because I have seen some issues with wayland... as xdotool or similar don't work.... [13:40] has any drawback using it instead of wayland nowadays? [13:44] mathdesc: so you have both: packages which are in phased update, and locally installed packages which aren't receiving updates (and may introduce security issues) [13:45] basically it interests me in terms of using a 4k monitor [13:45] the drawbacks I mean [13:47] mathdesc: sudo apt full-upgrade -o "APT::Get::Always-Include-Phased-Updates true" should override phasing once. [13:47] (so you can carry out the release upgrade without needing to wait). you will still need to sort out the packages reported by apt-forktracer, though. [13:49] @tomreyn thanks. So locally installed are shown by apt-forktracer right ? and you say introduce potential security issue due to not being updataed is that right ?? [13:52] @tomreyn sudo apt full-upgrade -o "APT::Get::Always-Include-Phased-Updates=true" did upgrade tose 6 packages, hurrah ! much thanks [13:55] mathdesc: apt-forktracer lists packages installed from (still active) third party repositories (which may or may not provide timely security updates, we cannot tell) and package versions which are not in line with those provided by official ubuntu repositories ( lines with [ square brackets] indicate how these versions deviate from what ubuntu repos provide) [13:55] @tomreyn : please tell me what are my options to carry out forked package ? (IIUC i could do this after the upgrade to noble) [13:56] mathdesc: you should always uninstall any third party packages to ensure a successful release upgrade (or do a fresh install) [13:58] and yes, outdated packages / software versions can be affected by security vulnerabilities, so you should always ensure you're using only apt repositories which provide timely security patches (whether through providing the latest upstream software version or through backported security patches) [14:00] okay I copy that. So for example on geany (2.0-1~ppa1~ubuntu22.04) [Ubuntu: 1.38-1]. It tell that I installed a more up-to-date package than official support, so I could block the upgrade because of a potential security risk ? or am I kind of over interpreting that one ? [14:02] So I should downgrade them to update ?! and for all the other packages that have no ubuntu offical support I should remove them ? [14:03] remove all 3rd party packages do the upgrade. reinstall. if possible not from a PPA again [14:04] if you need a PPA make sure it supports your new release [14:04] alternatives to PPAs can be: snaps, flatpaks, appimages [14:10] mathdesc: In this very example you asked about, apt-fortracer is informing you that you have installed a package "geany" in package version "2.0-1~ppa1~ubuntu22.04" (which suggests it may have come from a PPA, and whoever built it indicated that it was then built to be compatible to Ubuntu 22.04). (no indication is given which PPA this package was installed from, or whether this package received any security patching; the ppa it was installed [14:10] from is not currently enabled / configured in apt). the number in suqare brackets indicates that your current ubuntu release (22.04) currently provides a package with the same name (but not necessariy the same content) in version 1.38-1 (which you don't have installed, because you can only have one of the two installed at a time). different packages may introduce different dependencies on other packages, which can be unresolvable in case of third [14:10] party packages / package versions, preventing receing (security?) updates on other packages as well as successfull release upgrades. [14:11] generaly, keep in mind that any packages you install through apt are granted root access to your system. they can thus do whatever they like to. so make sure you trust their publisher. [14:15] and yes, downgrading this package to the ubuntu version would be the right approach, though be aware that downgrades are not supported and can fail. [14:21] @tomreyn hum right, so ie geany: apt-get -s remove geany && apt-get -s install geany=1.38-1 yields geany : Depends: geany-common (= 1.38-1) but 2.0-1~ppa1~ubuntu22.04 is to be installed. Even if I specified to force installation of version on official repo [14:22] it looks to install first from ppa [14:22] mathdesc: you need to remove the PPA first [14:23] mathdesc: you haven't told it to downgrade geany-common as well [14:23] and you can directly install package=version, no need to "remove" first [14:23] I would remove the PPA, remove the packages then reinstall the packages [14:23] it's really not all that complicated [14:24] the ppa is already removed according to apt.forktracer output [14:24] leaving the PPA is just begging for future problems [14:24] ah, so maybe we didn't clear the apt cache [14:24] sudo apt clean [14:24] it's leftover packages [14:49] is there some quick fix way to prevent a ubuntu server go into standby. I'm using it as a music player. [14:50] @tomreyn I dont get it https://pastebin.com/WMbLCMx4 : apt-get -s install geany=1.38-1 tells me about geany-common dep; apt policy geany-common tells me still wants to install from /var/lib/dpkg/status (I think though I commented the ppa). [14:50] https://pastebin.com/wq4rYK0i [14:50] what do you mean go into standby? Ubuntu server does not go suspend or hibernate by default [14:52] mathdesc: nothing can install from /var/lib/dpkg/status - this just indicates current package status / version. you want to sudo apt install geany=1.38-1 geany-common=1.38-1 [14:52] sudo apt install -t jammy geany=1.38-1 may also work [14:54] as a reminder, you should remove the remaining third party repositories and the packages / package versions installed from there, too. [14:54] (before starting the release upgrade) [14:55] mathdesc: sudo apt clean; sudo apt remove --purge geany* && sudo apt install geany [14:57] @tomreyn ok thank you. I will miss a feature (the md preview) but it worked for geany [14:58] i understand that you'll soon do the release upgrade and thus get access to a newer geany version from ubuntu repositories anyways [14:59] @Square, a server doesn't go into standby, do you mean an ubuntu desktop serving as a music player? [15:00] Square: are you running s desktop environment on this "server"? [15:00] @Square, goto settings at the top right, Power > Power Saving > Turn Screen Blanking to 'never' would be my first starting point [15:25] @tomreyn yes I hope so, I am much worried about the support for those packages Sane+Cupswrapper for dcp9020cdw printer/scanner : brscan-skey (0.3.1-1)brscan4 (0.4.9-1)dcp9020cdwcupswrapper (1.1.4-0)dcp9020cdwlpr (1.1.2-1) [16:15] اثh [16:15] hello] === esv_ is now known as esv === EriC^^59 is now known as EriC^^ [18:35] back after upgrade to noble, except some minor inconveniences and fear upon bios reupdate, to went smoother, add the result is quite convincing. Thanks for the support, you rock @tomreyn @ravage @ogra_ @leftyfb ! [18:40] you're welcome [18:41] @tomreyn printer+scanner also operational from the get go [18:42] so you left the brother scanner driver installed, i assume [18:43] no not even I remove those [18:47] only thing that I miss is encfs gnome integration [18:49] but dev has halted and security fixes were not propery done so [18:56] there's support for mounting crypto containers with cryptsetup. not sure if for creating any. a closer replacement would be fscrypt, but i don't know whether there is some form of GUI support for this either, === Sidewyz1 is now known as Sidewyz [19:00] @tomreyn found https://github.com/cjermain/gnome-gocryptfs for gocryptfs [19:05] but well not convincing === chrfle_ is now known as chrfle [20:03] www.playdanceradio.com [20:03] www.playdanceradio.com [20:03] !ops | djshadoweng spamming .. again [20:03] djshadoweng spamming .. again: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant [20:13] does lubuntu have an app store? === Sidewyz1 is now known as Sidewyz === EgonX_ is now known as EgonX === neocharlesalt is now known as neocharles [21:32] Well lubuntu uses the same repositories as every other version of ubuntu @omerb [21:32] But afaik there is no app store gui made by lxqt team in lubuntu, no. You could use gnome-software or plasma-discover if you want tho. [21:33] there's also the snap store snap [21:38] or use a(nother) packagekit GUI or Synaptic if you only care about APT [22:16] I restart my computer I am asked to create a new Keyring [22:38] I'm trying to extract a rar archive but the resulting folder doesn't have all the files [22:40] Even though I can see that the files are in the rar, I can't find it in the decompressed folder [22:45] guest05, are they hidden? "show hidden files" [23:05] Not sure if this is a k-specific problem or an ubuntu problem. After a none-clean shutdown, the next boot will just dump me to a busybox prompt. Seems like it mounts the encrypted root partition, then dscks it, finds errors, can't correct them as it's mounted, then dies and drops be to a busybox shell prompt with the initramfs still mounted as /. This is... rather annoying given the lack of speed this laptop has and it's rather low battery capacity after years [23:05] of use. Rebooting again results in grub pausing at it's menu, but continuing with a normal boot results in fsck running and fixing the errors and normal boot happening. Anyway to stop this double-reboot being needed after a dirty shutdown? [23:35] wsgggggg [23:37] can someone like reply bc I'm tryna see if this shi fr or not [23:39] hello? [23:55] Hello to those who are awake! I have a question about the installation of gnu/linux. In a GPT layout installation and bio mode, the grub installed on the 2M-sized partition 1 with flag "boot bios" can decrypt a crypted partition in LUKS with /boot at its root and boot the system?