| JanC | gnubio: assuming the cryptomount module is available | 00:25 |
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| JanC | 2 MiB might be a bit small to include all of GRUB, dunno...? | 00:26 |
| JanC | cryptomount command & the modules it needs | 00:27 |
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| d3_2024 | is there a way to remember the last open programs on 24.10/wayland? | 03:01 |
| d3_2024 | it be great if they would remember their position, but a persistent desktop sort of feature would be cool | 03:01 |
| oerheks | there is a gnome extention, not using it myself https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4724/window-calls/ | 03:04 |
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| devslash | Im installing ubuntu 24.10 on a dedicated drive. I will be dual booting with a 2nd drive which has windows 11. Ubuntu is requiring me to manually partition my ubuntu drive during installation. I have 64gb of ram so Ive got 1 questions. do i need a boot partition ? how big should the swap partition be? | 04:09 |
| Bashing-om | devslash: The installer will take care of creating the EFI partition and will also make up a default swap file. | 04:12 |
| devslash | I dont have that option | 04:13 |
| toddc | devslash: yes you need a boot partition if you use the automated installer it will setup everything for you. Note it boot first and the first screen will show your windows boot option also | 04:14 |
| devslash | there are 3 choices: 1. install windows along side windows boot manager which if i choose this option, wants to install on the same drive as windows which is not what I want 2. Ease disk and install ubuntu. again, I dont want to wipe boot partition or 3 manual installation | 04:14 |
| devslash | I do not have that as an option | 04:14 |
| toddc | devslash: it should have a drop down option to pick the second HDD and yes alaong side as I recall I will look for a screenshot | 04:16 |
| devslash | so if i select manual installation I have to manually partition the 2nd nvme drive | 04:17 |
| toddc | devslash: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#6-type-of-installation #6 half way down | 04:18 |
| devslash | ok what about that | 04:19 |
| devslash | Im choosing manual installation | 04:20 |
| toddc | devslash: the guide shows the option to use a second drive with the automated installer | 04:20 |
| devslash | how do i do that | 04:21 |
| devslash | Ubuntu 24.10 installer looks slightly different | 04:21 |
| toddc | not used 24.10 yes so I would need to download and install give me a few | 04:22 |
| devslash | i selected erase disk and install ubuntu. theres a dropdown to select the partition which only has 1 option nvme0m1p3 which is my existing windows 11 partition. the drive i want to install ubuntu on is nvme1n1 which is not there when I select erase disk and install ubuntu | 04:24 |
| devslash | I know for a fact that ubuntu can see my other drive because in terminal fdisk -l show nvme1n1 and also, I can see this drive if i select manual instllation | 04:25 |
| MrPirateee | hey guys, I have this repository added and I'm not sure if I should keep it enabled or not, can someone tell me what it's for? | 04:28 |
| MrPirateee | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oracular oracular-updates multiverse restricted universe main | 04:28 |
| MrPirateee | when I check it and i run apt update, i see there's about 100 or so packages i can upgrade, but the newer versions in the list seem oddly versioned | 04:29 |
| MrPirateee | here's one example: libpam-systemd/oracular-updates 256.5-2ubuntu3.1 amd64 [upgradable from: 256.5-2ubuntu3] | 04:30 |
| oerheks | seem oddly versioned? why? | 04:35 |
| toddc | devslash: I just installe to a vm with 2 drives and if you pick the alongside option the next window says Choose where to install Ubuntu with both drives showing but I do recall some issues with some NVME drive not showing up but I thoght it was just in older versions and had beed fixed a while ago | 04:38 |
| devslash | as i said i dont have that | 04:38 |
| devslash | I only have the 3 choices I mentioned earlier | 04:39 |
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| MrPirateee12 | oerheks because the version is the same and the part that increments is the ubuntu chunk from 3 to 3.1 | 04:39 |
| devslash | and if I choose erase disk and install ubuntu it only shows partition 3 of disk 1 which is my windows 11 partition | 04:39 |
| oerheks | MrPirateee12, check the changelog why? | 04:40 |
| toddc | devslash: stick around I am limited in that area others may have more ideas or a better one | 04:40 |
| MrPirateee12 | oerheks i didn't, i am not even sure when I've added this additional source, or if it's a good idea enabling it. | 04:41 |
| devslash | well I dont think that theres any way to get around this other than manual partitioning | 04:41 |
| oerheks | as long as it is not proposed.. not seeing anything unusual | 04:45 |
| toddc | devslash: I would guess the installer is not seeing the second drive for some reason | 04:45 |
| devslash | it does. i can see it under manual installation | 04:46 |
| MrPirateee12 | oerheks what do you mean proposed? | 04:46 |
| oerheks | see software update settings | 04:48 |
| MrPirateee12 | it's located in "other software", it seems like i've added this awhile ago, this installation has been going strong since 2019 :D | 04:50 |
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| ash_worksi | (1) does startup disk creator not come ootb on 22.04? (2) I thought this was made by Ubuntu, is it not? | 05:14 |
| ash_worksi | seems to have mixed reviews on whether or not it actually works | 05:15 |
| ash_worksi | perhaps maybe that's why it's not shipped by default (anymore?) | 05:15 |
| LuckyMan | ash_worksi, I think it depends on how you install Ubuntu, if minimal, you probably won't get all the goodies | 05:16 |
| MrPirateee | oerheks: turns out my updates were subscribed to a "custom" setting, once i switched to "all updates" the repository in question became enabled automatically, and i was able to get those 100 or so packages | 05:34 |
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| lubuntu | ciao | 10:01 |
| xn | im on mint, my bluetooth app(Blueman) keeps crashing | 11:01 |
| lotuspsychje | we can only support ubuntu and their flavours here xn | 11:01 |
| lotuspsychje | !mint | xn see | 11:01 |
| ubottu | xn see: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/ | 11:01 |
| xn | !mint | 11:02 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/ | 11:02 |
| xn | lotuspsychje irc.spotchat.org doesnt work | 11:06 |
| tomreyn | check their website for available support options. there is also ##linuxmint here, not official, though | 11:07 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:08 |
| ki | yo | 12:13 |
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| gnubio | JanC: I will reformulate the issue: this 2M partition 1 is that is required in the Grub installation manuals in GPT and bio mode with grub-install /dev/sdx. Is the cave in her capable of fading luks? Does such partition need to have any file system? | 14:06 |
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| JanC | there are several ways to install GRUB, with or without a filesystem | 14:16 |
| ogra_ | well, unless you have very old hardware you dont want to use grub-install anymore but simply create an EFI partiton | 14:17 |
| JanC | and I don't have any installs with BIOS-based GRUB, so I can't do a quick check how much space it needs (UEFI GRUB is larger than 2 MiB, but that is to be expected) | 14:17 |
| JanC | I also don't know if the default GRUB in Ubuntu installs cryptodisk supports booting kernels from the encrypted filesystem or if that requires customising what gets installed by grub-install? | 14:19 |
| tomreyn | it requires customizations | 14:20 |
| ogra_ | grub-install does a binasry write of the grub img to the start of the specified disk | 14:21 |
| tomreyn | What gnubio is asking about seems to be a BIOS booting Ubuntu (?) system installed on a GPT partitioned disk. | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | nothing else | 14:21 |
| tomreyn | (which requires this small bios-boot grub partition) | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | right | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | but is completely ignored on modern UEFI systems | 14:21 |
| JanC | ogra_: so what I mean is: does that image include support for decrypting, or does it need to load extra modules from elsewhere for that? | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | (unless you actually force legacy booting) | 14:22 |
| tomreyn | unless those are configured to boot in "legacy bios" mode through CSM | 14:22 |
| ogra_ | it doesnt have anything to do wsith encryption | 14:22 |
| JanC | well, if you want to load kernels from an encrypted filesystem you need decryption in GRUB :) | 14:23 |
| ogra_ | it is just the jumpstart for the image in /boot | 14:23 |
| tomreyn | right | 14:23 |
| JanC | GRUB has a cryptomount command for that, but I'm not sure that's available by default (in Ubuntu) | 14:24 |
| JanC | in BIOS boot | 14:24 |
| ogra_ | and to my knpowledge we never supported encrypted /boot except with the UbuntuCore TPM based setup | 14:24 |
| JanC | I assume they are trying to do something custom | 14:24 |
| ogra_ | (whioch is now available as experimental feature in desktop) | 14:24 |
| ogra_ | (and requires your kernel to be packaged as a snap) | 14:25 |
| tomreyn | gnubio: does any of this help? are you actually meaning to run ubuntu? which one? | 14:25 |
| JanC | right, so to get it to work on regular Ubuntu would require customising the commands in the boot menu, but what I was wondering is if you also have to customize the GRUB image that needs to be installed | 14:27 |
| JanC | which might be different for BIOS-based GRUB vs. UEFI-based GRUB | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | perhaps you find some decade old blogpost or so that explains it ... this is really all massively outdated | 14:29 |
| gnubio | yes, it is a custom installation for virtual machine. Grub has module for luks, so I thought that in the installation of it could lift the initramfs and kernel of a critographic partition luks. My doubt is whether the grub image installed on this 2M partition with Bios boot flag would be capable of that. | 14:35 |
| JanC | you could try... | 14:36 |
| JanC | if you boot into GRUB you can enter commands manually, so you should be able to see what commands & modules are available | 14:37 |
| JanC | it's possible it needs to be able to load the necessary modules from an unencrypted filesystem | 14:38 |
| JanC | it's also possible you can include them in the GRUB image somehow (but maybe that requires rebuilding it, I don't know for sure) | 14:39 |
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| ogra_ | i doubt the luks module is in the initial grub image, only in the one loaded from /boot | 14:44 |
| ogra_ | i.e. the second stage one | 14:44 |
| JanC | that's what I would expect too, especially for the default Ubuntu builds of GRUB | 14:45 |
| JanC | but GRUB can load stuff from anywhere, as long as you tell it where it is :) | 14:50 |
| ogra_ | well, the first stage bootloader image is only a few kb to fit into the MBR ... no space for modules | 14:51 |
| ogra_ | it then loads the second stage image from /boot where usually the modules live (i.e. luks or whatnot) | 14:51 |
| JanC | storing additional stuff is what the "BIOS boot partition" is for | 14:51 |
| JanC | which doesn't (necessarily) have a filesystem, AFAIK | 14:52 |
| ogra_ | that "partition" is 512 bytes big | 14:52 |
| JanC | no, it's a larger partition | 14:52 |
| JanC | it's an actual partition in the GPT partition table | 14:52 |
| ogra_ | "On PC BIOS systems, this image is the first part of GRUB to start. It is written to a master boot record (MBR) or to the boot sector of a partition. Because a PC boot sector is 512 bytes, the size of this image is exactly 512 bytes." | 14:52 |
| ogra_ | (from the grub manual) | 14:53 |
| ogra_ | i'd seriously just go with a UEFI boot | 14:53 |
| ogra_ | there are even secureboot UEFI images shipped with qemu (well with the efi pacdkages of it) that you cn just use | 14:54 |
| JanC | this "BIOS boot partition" you can use with BIOS boot mode + GPT partitions is supposed to hold further stages & modules AFAIK, even without a filesystem (AFAIK) | 14:55 |
| JanC | basically like how it would store stuff in unpartitioned space on MBR partitioned disks before | 14:55 |
| JanC | (just safer) | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | how would that be safer ? | 14:56 |
| JanC | you can't (as easily) accidentally create a partition in that location when there already is one | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | heh, what would prevent me from it | 14:57 |
| JanC | and overwrite parts of GRUB :) | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | it will just show as unpartitioned space | 14:57 |
| JanC | _accidentally_ | 14:57 |
| JanC | like I said, GPT has a partition type for this apparently | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | you will actually have to create a partiton ... | 14:57 |
| JanC | and that is what this is | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | sure ... but there is no extra safety over using a /boot partition | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | it will just not have a filesystem ... | 14:58 |
| JanC | on MBR partitioned disks it was often stored in the first 1 MiB before the first partition started | 14:58 |
| JanC | oh, sure, but BIOS can't read filesystems anyway | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | indeed, it will only read the MBR (512b) anayway | 14:59 |
| JanC | and thus neither can GRUB (until after loading modules from that partition) | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | *any | 14:59 |
| JanC | in case of UEFI, it can read from FAT (and possibly other file systems, although that's very rare I think) | 15:00 |
| ogra_ | either way, why battle with that legacy stuff at all instead of using UEFI | 15:00 |
| JanC | no idea :) | 15:00 |
| JanC | it's a VM, and IIRC qemu boots in BIOS mode by default, but you can make it boot in UEFI mode too, of course | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | in our TPM boot setup UEFI actually loads the snap (squashfs) from vfat and then reads the kernel directly out of the gpg signed squashfs | 15:02 |
| JanC | so that's signed, but not really encrypted, or what? | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | well, UEFI loads grub which thgen loads ... | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | it checks the signature ... you dont need encryption for a readonly filesystem kernel image | 15:03 |
| JanC | in any case, it's similar in how it works, I guess | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:03 |
| JanC | just have to make sure al lGRUB modules needed are available | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | correct | 15:04 |
| JanC | the main "issue" would be that by default those are in /boot/grub, I think, which might require some changes when you load the kernels from encrypted /boot | 15:05 |
| JanC | you'd need to have those modules somewhere on the EFI partition, or included in the UEFI GRUB binary if that's possible... | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | i dont think they are in /boot/grub ... there is usually an image generated that includes the modules ... what you find in /boot/grub should typically be the img not bare modules (they live somewhere in /var or /usr ... wherever the grub pacxkages drop them) | 15:07 |
| JanC | hm, looking at this 22.04 system the modules seem to be in /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/ ? | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | oh, you are right ... i see them in /boot/grub/arm64-efi/ | 15:09 |
| JanC | but it's possible those are included in an image as-needed of course | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | yeah, i'm working too much with snaps lately ... where we need to squeeze them into images to have the secureboot bits working | 15:10 |
| JanC | anyway, gnubio will have some investigating to do | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | yep | 15:10 |
| JanC | I don't think a lot of peopel do what they want to do | 15:11 |
| JanC | gnubio: maybe also try asking in #grub | 15:11 |
| JanC | and also searching the web, as suggested earlier | 15:13 |
| Guest7 | ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) | 15:44 |
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| gnubio | JanC: i performed the grub in uefi mode and put /boot/grub in /efi and worked. I can decrypt luks and boot the system by manually loading initramfs and the kernel | 16:54 |
| oerheks | !yay | 16:55 |
| ubottu | Glad you made it! :-) | 16:55 |
| JanC | now you need to find a way to automate that :) | 16:56 |
| JanC | (not just that it boots now, but also after kernel upgrades) | 16:57 |
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| gnubio | i used grub --boot-directory insertion option. Maybe it's permanent. Soon more I will upgrade to test. | 17:14 |
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| xbox | yo hi | 18:08 |
| xbox | hello anyone? | 18:08 |
| zr2^ | hi | 18:08 |
| xbox | oo helo | 18:08 |
| xbox | what is this chat thing | 18:08 |
| xbox | ??? | 18:09 |
| xbox | i never used ubuntu before | 18:09 |
| leftyfb | xbox: this is a support channel for ubuntu | 18:09 |
| xbox | oh my bad, im sorry | 18:09 |
| leftyfb | !ot | xbox | 18:09 |
| ubottu | xbox: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 18:09 |
| alexod_ | 36,9,22,83,0,0,0,8,20,65,26,0,87,13,23,5,5,21,26,21,2,3,72,68,57,21,83,4,22,28,82,5,28,22,18,10,4,79,16,1,17,20,7,26,17,26,30,68,92,65,7,27,18,29,23,68,17,19,22,83,3,7,27,10,23,18,83,10,18,27,82,16,31,65,23,26,4,12,29,18,21,19,22,23,91,79,16,17,4,65,28,21,3,10,28,68,4,8,30,22,87,27,26,1,80,3,22,18,2,27,27,2,5,13,83,7,31,6,28,3,3,65,22,11,30,28,6,68,7,8,7,27,30,1,82,29,31,20,1,83,20,6,0,7,28,4,95,83,21,10,26,13,30,5,83,26,3,79,27,23,80,2,27,18,24,28,94,68, | 18:13 |
| alexod_ | 30,14,7,83,18,25,23,22,9,21,27,26,25,8,82,13,3,65,0,22,3,79,29,17,4,65,7,28,87,13,23,68,0,4,1,21,18,12,6,68,19,19,22,18,3,6,29,10,80,13,26,24,18,79,11,11,5,19,0,83,91,79,29,16,24,4,1,0,87,7,19,18,21,65,17,22,20,0,31,1,80,19,26,21,3,79,19,10,20,65,28,29,27,22,82,29,31,20,1,0,87,6,1,68,4,9,22,83,24,1,23,68,4,9,18,7,87,0,28,1,80,8,29,83,16,6,21,5,4,19,28,29,87,7,19,18,21,65,17,22,18,1,82,6,28,4,0,0,18,11,82,2,2,14,30,83,22,3,30,68,4,9,22,83,30,1,20,13,30,8,7 | 18:13 |
| alexod_ | ,22,87,12,19,16,17,18,7,1,24,31,26,13,19,65,3,28,4,28,27,6,25,13,26,7,30,10,1,94,80,50,60,83,27,10,6,67,3,65,16,27,18,29,27,23,24,65,26,7,73,79,19,10,20,65,7,1,14,79,16,1,3,21,83,7,24,79,82,10,21,23,22,1,87,3,23,16,80,21,27,22,87,3,27,18,25,15,20,83,3,7,27,10,23,18,83,7,31,14,6,68,17,19,22,83,22,25,19,13,28,0,17,31,18,79,16,1,80,4,11,7,30,1,17,16,94,65 | 18:13 |
| leftyfb | alexod_: can we help you with something? | 18:14 |
| alexod_ | no just finding here if there were any encripter friends > | 18:14 |
| oerheks | .. | 18:15 |
| leftyfb | alexod_: that's not what this channel is for. See above | 18:15 |
| alexod_ | sorry my bad , and how are you? | 18:16 |
| calwig | G'day o/ | 18:47 |
| calwig | Does this channel also support Kubuntu> | 18:47 |
| calwig | ? | 18:47 |
| oerheks | calwig, yes, but there is also #kubuntu here on #libera | 18:52 |
| calwig | oerheks: ok thanks | 18:57 |
| among | Hello? | 19:30 |
| oerheks | :-) | 19:31 |
| among | SUS | 19:32 |
| among | SIGMA | 19:32 |
| oerheks | welcome to ubuntu support | 19:32 |
| === ubuntu_4321 is now known as ubuntu4321 | ||
| jluc | Hello | 20:12 |
| kuka_lie | hello jluc | 20:12 |
| jluc | i got it : « sudo snap remove thunderbird » | 20:13 |
| jluc | snap version unininstalled deb version and installed itself instead | 20:14 |
| jluc | and couldnt access my profiles anymore :-/ | 20:14 |
| leftyfb | because they're stored in a separate location | 20:14 |
| leftyfb | jluc: why did you remove the snap? | 20:15 |
| jluc | i dont remember but it was a pain | 20:15 |
| leftyfb | what was a pain? | 20:15 |
| jluc | i couldnt read my mails : | 20:17 |
| jluc | so i installed debian but its a previous version | 20:17 |
| jluc | and snap had been reinstalled and couldnt open profiles again anymore again | 20:17 |
| jluc | not debian but .deb | 20:17 |
| jluc | oh snap remove is not enough | 20:18 |
| leftyfb | jluc: ok, so you misconfigured your email account and figure the .deb with the exact same configuration will somehow work differently? | 20:18 |
| jluc | it will comme back | 20:18 |
| jluc | askubuntu forum says « To ensure that unattended upgrades do not reinstall the snap version of Thunderbird, enter the following command : echo 'Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins:: "LP-PPA-mozillateam:${distro_codename}";' | sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/51unattended-upgrades-thunderbird | 20:18 |
| jluc | » | 20:18 |
| jluc | .deb works fine, snap doesnt, that's for sure | 20:19 |
| jluc | same 1 month ago when i prepared that new computer, and today after snap reinstalled itself ejecting my .deb install | 20:20 |
| jluc | it's nice to have an nice-and-easy-to-install app store and snapstore does well at that | 20:24 |
| jluc | but sometimes snaps is not the right solution | 20:24 |
| jluc | here it doesnt work, i didnt investigate why since .deb is fine | 20:24 |
| jluc | i remember issues with other snaps not being able to access some folders outside /home | 20:25 |
| jluc | and the fix was obscure config files editing or esoteric command line arguments | 20:26 |
| oerheks | profile is somewhere here ~/snap/thunderbird/common/thunderbird/<something.default.>/ ? | 20:26 |
| jluc | nope profile are in /DATA/PROFILES | 20:27 |
| jluc | « they're stored in a separate location » | 20:27 |
| hans_henrik_ | does this url work for anyone else? for me it gives 500 Internal Server Error: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=oracular§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=ubuntu-server-installer&searchon=names | 20:28 |
| jluc | it works yes | 20:29 |
| jluc | but no result | 20:29 |
| hans_henrik_ | hmm now it works for me too, the 500 went away. neat | 20:29 |
| hans_henrik_ | anyway i think i've found a bug with the ubuntu server installer, where can i report that? | 20:30 |
| oerheks | F5 does magic | 20:30 |
| oerheks | !bug | 20:30 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 20:30 |
| hans_henrik_ | the apport thing requires a package name. i can't find a package name for the ubuntu server installer | 20:30 |
| oerheks | create a launchpad account first, to get response | 20:30 |
| hans_henrik_ | i have a launchpad account | 20:31 |
| oerheks | !info ubuntu-server | 20:31 |
| ubottu | ubuntu-server (1.539.1, noble): Ubuntu Server system. In component main, is optional. Built by ubuntu-meta. Size 11 kB / 17 kB | 20:31 |
| oerheks | it is just a meta package | 20:31 |
| hans_henrik_ | ohh maybe the "package" Ubiquity ? | 20:31 |
| hans_henrik_ | that's the modern installer name since 20.04 iirc | 20:32 |
| hans_henrik_ | yeah imma go with that | 20:32 |
| ravage | !info subiquity | 20:32 |
| ubottu | Package subiquity does not exist in noble | 20:32 |
| ravage | mhm | 20:32 |
| hans_henrik_ | !info Ubiquity | 20:32 |
| ubottu | ubiquity (24.04.5, noble): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Built by ubiquity. Size 2,876 kB / 18,450 kB | 20:32 |
| ravage | the server installer is subiquity | 20:32 |
| oerheks | subiquity is for servers, only | 20:33 |
| oerheks | ? | 20:33 |
| ravage | that is what he asked for right? | 20:33 |
| hans_henrik_ | yup | 20:33 |
| ravage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity | 20:33 |
| hans_henrik_ | summary >subiquity crash on seeing MBR ProxMox partition table | 20:34 |
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| oerheks | normally one would use the proxmox web gui, upload the iso and go from there | 20:50 |
| hans_henrik_ | the problem happens when replacing proxmox with ubuntu, on a server lacking UEFI support | 20:51 |
| hans_henrik_ | the installer crash when it sees (or inspects?) the harddrive containing proxmox | 20:51 |
| among_ | hi | 20:51 |
| hans_henrik_ | so basically have to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda *before* running the ubuntu installer | 20:52 |
| oerheks | so you wiped, but did not create a partition. logical it crashes | 20:54 |
| hans_henrik_ | ah no, that would not be logical. if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda is the equivalent of a brand new harddrive straight from the factory | 20:56 |
| hans_henrik_ | but that's what fixes it, not what crashes it. | 20:56 |
| hans_henrik_ | reproduce: install proxmox on a system lacking UEFI support. shut down the system. boot into ubuntu server installer. try to install ubuntu over the existing proxmox installation. it will crash. | 20:59 |
| hans_henrik_ | then wipe the harddrive, and try to install ubuntu again. it will work. | 21:01 |
| hans_henrik_ | and.. lovely, it reproduce on my ProLiant BL460c Gen8 server (UEFI was introduced in Gen9), but it does not reproduce on VMWare. | 21:07 |
| JanC | there are also other situations like that that can confuse the installer unfortunately | 21:24 |
| JanC | e.g. I had the installer install a BIOS boot version of GRUB while the installer was booted in UEFI mode because the previous install had been done in BIOS mode... | 21:25 |
| TR1950X | my laptop has a iGPU (amd) and a dedicated gpu. I don't need the dedicated gpu for my work. Is it possible to put the dedicated gpu to 'sleep' mode to save battery? | 21:30 |
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| JanC | depends, I think | 21:31 |
| oerheks | with Nvidia,one can in nvidia settings > prime profiles | 21:36 |
| oerheks | or cmd; sudo prime-select intel | 21:36 |
| JanC | it should be possible to put it to sleep or even power it down, but e.g. in some laptops the connector for external displays is connected to the dGPU, so if you need that... | 21:36 |
| JanC | you can also power down the PCIE device, I think | 21:43 |
| JanC | or put it in sleep mode | 21:45 |
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| randyM | Hello Everybody! | 23:18 |
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| ash_guest | I'm shocked at how difficult this is for me. I created a live USB disk for 24.04 to load on to what I think is a brand new HDD (idr). So, I click on what may or may not be the connected drive, and I get an error message. Oh well. Let me see what I can find on the Internet about devices. I launch Firefox. Nothing happens. I try from the terminal. Another error. I look it up on my phone and it says to download and reinstall. ~.~ So | 23:57 |
| ash_guest | I just shut it down and started back up. On the network prompt, I tried connecting and it just gave me a loading circle indefinitely. Cancelled out of that, tried to open ff, same error: couldn't load XPCOM | 23:58 |
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