| oerheks | "An error message about XPCOM or about platform version usually happens because of a failed Firefox update that left you with a mixture of old and updated files in the Firefox program folder." | 00:00 |
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| oerheks | remove firefox, ~/.mozilla and reinstall | 00:00 |
| ash_guest | oerheks k, I'll try | 00:01 |
| ash_guest | Seems there's now a network issue too | 00:01 |
| ash_guest | I wish it would keep error messages in the notification panel until I dismiss it | 00:02 |
| ash_guest | "activation of network connection failed" -- not very helpful anyway | 00:03 |
| ash_guest | Trying the ff fix anyway | 00:04 |
| ash_guest | Oh duh | 00:04 |
| ash_guest | Can't connect | 00:04 |
| ash_guest | Restart #2 | 00:05 |
| ash_guest | K, restarting got my connection back. But reinstalling Firefox without the home directory did not work. Same error: couldn't load XPCOM | 00:09 |
| ash_guest | I just realized the clock is wildly off | 00:10 |
| ravage | firefox is a snap so ~/.mozilla is not your profile directory. fixing the clock is a good thing too | 00:11 |
| ravage | if you dont have any important data on your firefox profile: "sudo snap remove --purge firefox; rm -Rf ~/snap/firefox; sudo snap install firefox" | 00:11 |
| ash_guest | That's one thing that's fixed | 00:11 |
| ash_guest | It's a live boot | 00:12 |
| ravage | and why are you trying to fix a live usb? | 00:12 |
| ash_guest | I just want internet so I can research stuff I might need to do | 00:12 |
| ash_guest | And the phone is cumbersome | 00:12 |
| ravage | well . you start the installer i guess | 00:13 |
| ash_guest | I wanted to check the drive I am installing to first | 00:13 |
| ravage | check in what sense | 00:13 |
| ash_guest | If I remember correctly (which is not a great track record) the drive is new so. But if it happens to have like pictures on it, it'd be nice to back them up first | 00:14 |
| ash_guest | Check like, poke around | 00:14 |
| ravage | ok. so you need the file manager or a terminal for that | 00:15 |
| ravage | start with "Disks" | 00:15 |
| ravage | if the drive is empty you can skip everything else | 00:15 |
| ash_guest | "Disks"? | 00:16 |
| ravage | press the Ubuntu button. start typing the word Disks | 00:16 |
| ash_guest | If that's a sidebar thing, its not there | 00:16 |
| ash_guest | Oh | 00:16 |
| ash_guest | That's much more convenient | 00:16 |
| ash_guest | So, to see if anything is in there I should mount it somewhere, yeah? | 00:17 |
| ravage | Yes that's a good plan | 00:17 |
| ravage | But a click on the drive in the file manager should do that | 00:18 |
| ravage | Maybe under "other locations" | 00:18 |
| ash_guest | Not listed there | 00:18 |
| ravage | Then the disk may be just empty | 00:18 |
| ravage | See Diska | 00:18 |
| ravage | Disks | 00:19 |
| ash_guest | Says contents: unknown | 00:19 |
| ravage | Does not sound like it has pictures on it then | 00:19 |
| ash_guest | Do you feel pretty good about that or should I mount anyway? | 00:20 |
| ravage | I don't think there is anything to mount | 00:20 |
| ravage | The application would show partitions and filesystems | 00:21 |
| ash_guest | I see | 00:21 |
| ash_guest | So without that, I can't mount it, or files cAnt exist? | 00:21 |
| ravage | Right | 00:21 |
| ash_guest | ... Both? | 00:22 |
| ravage | If the drive just shows as unknown there is nothing to mount | 00:22 |
| ravage | At least nothing the system can identify | 00:22 |
| ash_guest | K. I'll move on I guess and cross my fingers. I assume something would stand out if it couldn't identify it due to like some old windows thing | 00:23 |
| ash_guest | (which I used once upon a time, but probably never with this disk) | 00:24 |
| ash_guest | The installer will prompt me for partitions, right? | 00:24 |
| ravage | Just use the option to use the full disk | 00:25 |
| ravage | And you don't have to worry about any of that really | 00:25 |
| ash_guest | Well, this is round 2 of installation. My previous attempt, I got everything running and then something went wrong and the solution was to reinstall. That drive I KNOW has stuff I want to keep on it, but the easy installation prompt would not let me NOT reformat the drive. So I don't want to be in that position again. If something goes wrong, I just want to be able to reinstall without removing everything on the drive | 00:28 |
| ash_guest | It says I can do a manual install or erase everything (but the erase everything has an LVM option)... Think that'll let me partition? | 00:30 |
| oerheks | yes, manual https://ubuntuhandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/noble-disksetup2.webp | 00:30 |
| oerheks | it will bring you here https://ubuntuhandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/noble-tablebefore.webp | 00:31 |
| oerheks | fromhttps://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2024/04/install-ubuntu-24-04-desktop/ | 00:31 |
| ash_guest | I don't really know what mount point or format I should use. | 00:32 |
| ash_guest | oerheks do you recommend startup disk creator over dd? | 00:34 |
| oerheks | just wipe everything but the partition with your data you want to keep? i would boot in live mode and backup first | 00:34 |
| oerheks | ash_guest, for uefi install, yes, startup disk creator | 00:34 |
| ash_guest | I'm in live mode now. I'm using manual partitioning, but need to research if I can/should use btrfs | 00:36 |
| oerheks | i have no clue on btrfs, not sure if you can boot from that or just storage | 00:38 |
| oerheks | zfs you can | 00:38 |
| ash_guest | A lot of stuff to research I guess. I don't really know the difference between zfs and btrfs | 00:39 |
| waifu | zelensky is sexy | 02:03 |
| waifu | i wanna cuddle with him | 02:03 |
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| iH8sasl2 | It's quiet in here. | 05:06 |
| lotuspsychje | how can we help you iH8sasl2 | 05:19 |
| iH8sasl2 | I'm just bored | 05:25 |
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| redeuxx | hi guys, i have a minimal ubuntu server install, how do i install minimal graphics drivers so text is not so big and somewhat readable? | 12:07 |
| lotuspsychje | redeuxx: the kernel should load drivers by default on ubuntu, even on minimal | 12:11 |
| lotuspsychje | redeuxx: can you check, sudo lshw -C video , to see if yours are loaded? | 12:12 |
| redeuxx | lotuspsychje: when using the cloud image, this is what it looks like https://imgur.com/MOwGrVq, when using the regular iso install, this is what it looks like https://imgur.com/80SOqoz | 12:33 |
| redeuxx | unfortunately, looking at a lot of text is unreadable using default resolution, or text size on the cloud image | 12:34 |
| redeuxx | both screenshots side by side: https://imgur.com/a/zeGxtvm | 12:35 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:40 |
| kuka_lie | hi BluesKaj | 12:41 |
| BluesKaj | hi kuka_lie | 12:43 |
| tomreyn | redeuxx: this should be a matter of console / terminal configuration really, not of graphics drivers. unless these are running in terminal emulators. | 12:56 |
| barbaros | Hi. want to add Win11 to grub but do not have Microsoft folder under /boot/efi | 12:57 |
| kuka_lie | barbaros: sudo update grub | 12:57 |
| barbaros | os-probe finds nothing | 12:58 |
| kuka_lie | weird | 12:58 |
| kuka_lie | you can just take all data from that partition and run windows 11 ar vm | 13:00 |
| tomreyn | i guess that if there is no windows boot code on the main efi system partition (ESP), you either have another ESP, or it boots in bios mode. | 13:01 |
| barbaros | I dont know how important I camr this point. first installed ubuntu then win11. couldnt fix boot. formated boot root and home partition then installed ubuntu again. this time there is no win11 | 13:02 |
| barbaros | I couldnt make it dual boot | 13:02 |
| kuka_lie | i have newer done dual boot with windows 11. only windows xp and 7 | 13:03 |
| barbaros | tomreyn: i think thats right | 13:03 |
| barbaros | i tried win11 usb but it did not fix, | 13:03 |
| tomreyn | barbaros: use your bios provided boot menu to switch between linux and windows, or resinstall both in UEFI boot mode, starting with windows | 13:07 |
| barbaros | tomreyn: win11 does not shoe-wup in boot menu | 13:07 |
| tomreyn | (there may also be a way to convert windows installations from legac< bios to uefi boot mode, but that's out of scope) | 13:07 |
| tomreyn | if the other OS does not even show in the bios provided boot menu then i don't see how it's bootable at all. | 13:08 |
| barbaros | ı think i will wipe everything and install win11 first then ubuntu | 13:11 |
| tomreyn | if you need a guide, https://www.mikekasberg.com/blog/2024/05/20/dual-boot-ubuntu-24-04-and-windows-with-encryption.html https://www.xda-developers.com/dual-boot-windows-11-linux/ look like they could work | 13:11 |
| tomreyn | personally i'd prefer running windows in a VM under ubuntu if i had to run it. | 13:12 |
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| aiena | in my interfaces for wifi I have a line in "ip link" as below | 14:02 |
| aiena | 3: wlo1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 | 14:02 |
| aiena | what does DORMANT mean here? | 14:02 |
| aiena | sometimes ip route does not show the default route when wifi is on but the default route is obtained when I connect the wired interface. Both the wired and wireless interface originate from the same access point. ip link states that the wired interfce is DEFAULT | 14:04 |
| aiena | on ubuntu 22.04.2 | 14:04 |
| tomreyn | dormant mode: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3132#section-2.0 | 14:05 |
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| tomreyn | unless you're using some form of failover or cooperation between wireless and ethernet connections to your wireless router, having both up does probably not serve much of a purpose | 14:11 |
| aiena | tomreyn: I used tohave both up because the wired lan was acting as a bridge to some of my kvm machines through network manager that is not working very well now | 14:12 |
| tomreyn | i see | 14:13 |
| aiena | what I noticed is when I turn wired off and keep wireless only on sometimes the default route was not set and firefox etc could not communicate by my android phone coulf communicate over the same wireless network I thought it had something to do with DORMANT but probably not | 14:13 |
| aiena | I cannot use wireless bridging for kvm machines I read this is because of complexities associated with wireless networks. I know virtualbox can do it on windows and might be able to do it on linux too but not gonna use VB | 14:15 |
| tomreyn | i think with network manager you need to reconnect another interface after you brought down the one which had the default route | 14:15 |
| ravage | if you need the ethernet interface only for the VMs you do not need to configure an IP for the host system on it | 14:16 |
| aiena | in network manager I remeber we created a bridge with the real eth port as master and then in kvm we used to configure the interface as the nm bridge | 14:16 |
| aiena | err as a bridged connection | 14:16 |
| myos | hi | 14:17 |
| aiena | hi | 14:17 |
| aiena | ravage: hmm | 14:17 |
| myos | wait is someone | 14:17 |
| myos | here | 14:17 |
| myos | no bot? | 14:17 |
| aiena | ravage: how do I use the same ethernet interface on multiple kvm vms for them to get ips from the main router | 14:18 |
| myos | idk bro | 14:18 |
| aiena | myos: I was talking to ravage | 14:18 |
| ravage | you put all VM interfaces in the bridge | 14:18 |
| myos | epic moment someone is here | 14:18 |
| myos | oh ok | 14:18 |
| ravage | you can use a bridge like a network switch in that way | 14:19 |
| ravage | throw all VMs on that bridge interface that is connected to your router and they are connected | 14:20 |
| aiena | yeh my bridge hasint been working for a bit but recently | 14:20 |
| aiena | I remember when the eth link was up the bridge used to gothrough the STP states | 14:20 |
| aiena | and then work but now it doesnt | 14:20 |
| silv3r_m00n | hi there | 14:22 |
| silv3r_m00n | a cloud provider has blocked 8.8.8.8 and a docker container is directly trying to communicate with this ip directly (for dns resolution) so i use the command, iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -d 8.8.8.8 -j DNAT --to-destination some.other.dns.server Now the host can "ping" 8.8.8.8 but the docker container still cannot ping/communicate with 8.8.8.8 | 14:22 |
| silv3r_m00n | what rule should i add to iptables to allow docker container to connect with 8.8.8.8 in this special case | 14:22 |
| ravage | try: docker --dns=127.0.0.1 run my/container cat /etc/resolv.conf | 14:23 |
| silv3r_m00n | i cannot use docker commands etc, its mailcow (about 15 containers) i just do docker compose up -d | 14:24 |
| ravage | you can also set that in /etc/default/docker : DOCKER_OPTS="--dns=my-private-dns-server-ip" | 14:24 |
| silv3r_m00n | i am not specifically looking for a dns re-setting. instead i need a NAT-ting command that allows docker containers to communicate with ip forwarded hosts | 14:25 |
| ravage | Why? | 14:25 |
| ravage | Why make it complicated I mean | 14:25 |
| ravage | Set a working DNS server for your docker daemon | 14:26 |
| silv3r_m00n | ravage: because the docker container is not actually trying a "dns resolution". its attempting to contact "8.8.8.8" explicitly it will contact it no matter what the dns settings are | 14:26 |
| ravage | That's just really bad behavior | 14:27 |
| silv3r_m00n | its unbound-mailcow container | 14:27 |
| ravage | If the container is open source file a bug report | 14:27 |
| silv3r_m00n | for now i need to setup a solution for the client | 14:27 |
| ravage | https://docs.mailcow.email/manual-guides/Unbound/u_e-unbound-fwd/ | 14:28 |
| silv3r_m00n | how can i setup some iptables rule on host so that if a docker container contacts 8.8.8.8 it goes via forwarding rules set on the host | 14:28 |
| silv3r_m00n | ravage: that link looks useful | 14:29 |
| silv3r_m00n | let me read all of it | 14:29 |
| silv3r_m00n | ravage: that seems to have worked ... let me test | 14:35 |
| aiena | ravage: so you know if systemd or something is messing with the netowrk manager bridge. When I start a virtual machine with the bridge and use brctly showstp I can seee kvm adding the vnet interface connection to the bridge but when it boots up the bridge gores to down state and the vnet interface is nowhere to be seen | 14:48 |
| aiena | err wehn the vm boots up | 14:49 |
| andreaa71 | and DNS = 192.168.1.1 ? like the gateway ? | 16:13 |
| leftyfb | andreaa71: can we help you with something? | 16:14 |
| andreaa71 | yes, later you are talking about dns ... | 16:15 |
| andreaa71 | i my home i use : gateway = 192.138.1.1 and dns = 192.168.1.1 | 16:16 |
| leftyfb | ok? | 16:16 |
| leftyfb | what do you need help with specifically? | 16:16 |
| andreaa71 | i was to talk about dns ... | 16:16 |
| mgedmin | 192.138 doesn't look right | 16:16 |
| andreaa71 | ops ... | 16:17 |
| leftyfb | andreaa71: ok, so you don't actually have a support question? | 16:17 |
| andreaa71 | in my home i use : gateway = 192.168.1.1 dns = 192.168.1.1 | 16:18 |
| leftyfb | andreaa71: great, do you need help with something? | 16:18 |
| andreaa71 | to help you ... | 16:18 |
| leftyfb | I don't need help | 16:19 |
| andreaa71 | to share | 16:19 |
| andreaa71 | ok, np | 16:19 |
| JoeBk | earphones not working. any fix coming? | 17:21 |
| ingopan | Hi,i am looking for a small tool or smth. that allows me to set custom hotkeys, like ctrl+shift+f12 to paste a string globally ? Whats the easiest take here ? Thanks in advance. | 17:21 |
| gordonjcp | ingopan: like just a hotkey to paste one particular string? | 17:32 |
| gordonjcp | ingopan: I don't know, but it's an interesting question... | 17:32 |
| ingopan | for example i press ctrl+shift+f12 it should write banana | 17:32 |
| ingopan | thats all | 17:32 |
| ingopan | ^^ | 17:32 |
| ingopan | using kubuntu here | 17:33 |
| ingopan | heard klipper is the way to go, but looks complicated | 17:34 |
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| colin_ | anyone on here use Lubuntu ? | 18:21 |
| tomreyn | hi colin_. note that there is also #lubuntu. and it's a good idea to ask more specific questions if something doesn't work (don't just make it a poll). | 18:25 |
| colin_ | i'm new to irc the default setting s | 18:27 |
| colin_ | default settings put me on here | 18:27 |
| colin_ | altho new to the world of linux think i have the basics working :-) | 18:27 |
| tomreyn | good to hear this. :) | 18:28 |
| dob1 | hi, update tool says "update from lunar to noble is not possible with this tool", what can I do? | 19:06 |
| oerheks | download the 24.04 iso and reinstall/replace | 19:07 |
| dob1 | are you saying I have to reinstall everything??? | 19:07 |
| oerheks | Ubuntu 23.04 is way to old, repos has been deleted | 19:07 |
| dob1 | but I cannot change source in apt list | 19:08 |
| oerheks | if you choose replace, your apps and setting might survive | 19:08 |
| dob1 | and update by myself via apt ? | 19:08 |
| oerheks | np | 19:08 |
| oerheks | no | 19:08 |
| dob1 | are you sure about this? | 19:09 |
| oerheks | yes, else i would give a how-to | 19:10 |
| oerheks | good luck! | 19:10 |
| dob1 | on another pc I have 22.04.05 LTS this is the same? | 19:10 |
| dob1 | I hope no | 19:10 |
| dob1 | this was an LTS | 19:10 |
| oerheks | no, LTS can be upgraded to LTS | 19:10 |
| oerheks | you are just a few months too late, that is all | 19:10 |
| dob1 | how much can I wait in this pc to update to the newer LTS ? | 19:12 |
| oerheks | 22.04 would be supported 5 years | 19:12 |
| dob1 | so for 5 years I have the time to update to the newer LTS ? | 19:12 |
| ravage | I see a theme here. Upgrade fatigue :) | 19:12 |
| oerheks | a few weeks after 27.04 is released, yes | 19:12 |
| ravage | You probably mean 26.04 | 19:13 |
| oerheks | 22+5 .. | 19:13 |
| dob1 | I have 22.04 | 19:13 |
| oerheks | 26.04 would be lts.. | 19:13 |
| ravage | If you don't like upgrades stick to LTS | 19:13 |
| dob1 | just to be sure: what is the eol of this release considering until I can upgrade it? 5 years ? you said this right? | 19:13 |
| oerheks | !lts | 19:14 |
| ubottu | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Noble (Noble Numbat 24.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. | 19:14 |
| oerheks | ubuntu version in between 9 mo | 19:14 |
| dob1 | sorry if I insist but LTS was not just supported for 5 years? | 19:14 |
| oerheks | 23.04 is not lts | 19:15 |
| dob1 | forget about 23.04 | 19:15 |
| ravage | https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle | 19:15 |
| dob1 | I am considering the other PC where now I have 22.04 | 19:15 |
| dob1 | I have two ubuntu installation | 19:15 |
| oerheks | 22.04 (2022) + 5 years | 19:16 |
| dob1 | ok so 2027 | 19:16 |
| ravage | look at that page. it really has all the information | 19:16 |
| dob1 | but that this indicates the last date where I can update to the newer LTS too, right? | 19:17 |
| oerheks | a few weeks after 27.04 is released, yes | 19:17 |
| ravage | you should always upgrade before the support ends | 19:18 |
| ravage | you dont want a system without security updates | 19:18 |
| dob1 | I want to be sure because, yes every update is not trivial for me... I don't use the ubuntu default desktop, and I have other programs to update.. and every time there is something that doesn't work... and to be honest time ago it was fun to resolve these issue... right now it's just boring for me | 19:18 |
| dob1 | ravage: I do the updates | 19:19 |
| ravage | custom installations will always be tricky | 19:19 |
| leftyfb | not with ansible :) | 19:19 |
| leftyfb | dob1: stick to only LTS releases, forget about everything inbetween | 19:19 |
| leftyfb | and work to upgrade every 2-5 years | 19:19 |
| dob1 | leftyfb: indeed it was the error that I did with the first pc I mentioned that now need a reinstall | 19:19 |
| leftyfb | not really, but you probably should | 19:20 |
| leftyfb | !eolupgrade | dob1 | 19:20 |
| ubottu | dob1: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 19:20 |
| leftyfb | upgrading IS possible, but not really recommended | 19:20 |
| oerheks | eolupgrade not for lunar.. | 19:20 |
| dob1 | but it's not an important installation this one. reinstall is fine | 19:20 |
| dob1 | NOT the one with LTS this is my main workstation :) | 19:21 |
| leftyfb | dob1: then I recommend upgrading to 24.04 as soon as you can | 19:21 |
| dob1 | ok! I will do asap | 19:21 |
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| morgan-u | Would a question about GIMP be appropriate here? How an I move a text box? I have 5 and I think of them as objects that i want to rearrange. | 22:08 |
| morgan-u | Visual thinking. | 22:08 |
| morgan-u | NO duh. Not GIMP, LibreOfficeDRAW. | 22:08 |
| morgan-u | Would a question about LibreOffince DRAW be appropriate here? How an I move a text box? I have 5 and I think of them as objects that i want to rearrange. | 22:09 |
| morgan-u | I went to gimp and just drew the words and now I want to change the color of my brush. looked it up online, and again. Nothing. works. | 22:29 |
| rfm | morgan-u, if you click on the edge of the text box it will select the object instead of putting the text cursor in, then you can drag it to move or use the handles to resize. | 22:37 |
| rfm | morgan-u, unfortunately the edge isn't visible until selected, so it usually requires clicking a few times to hit it right. | 22:38 |
| rfm | morgan-u, or maybe just hovering around until the cursor changes? been a while. | 22:41 |
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