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cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 15:30 |
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cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( dviererbe ) | 15:30 |
cpaelzer | some may already be out for EOY | 15:30 |
cpaelzer | and I'm slightly distracted with a sick rabbit on my lap | 15:31 |
cpaelzer | but we will get this done | 15:31 |
sarnold | good morning | 15:31 |
sarnold | aww poor bunny :( | 15:31 |
cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 15:32 |
cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:32 |
cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 15:32 |
cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 15:32 |
cpaelzer | normal view is good | 15:32 |
cpaelzer | proposed has a bit | 15:32 |
cpaelzer | hmm, I didn't pick up sanlock as new | 15:32 |
cpaelzer | but it is there | 15:32 |
cpaelzer | I'll ask sergio | 15:32 |
sarnold | hah, and I missed augeas entirely | 15:32 |
sarnold | it's already got an approved MIR? | 15:33 |
sarnold | is this *ancient* MIR bug really "the bug"? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/augeas/+bug/434836 | 15:33 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 434836 in augeas (Ubuntu Karmic) "[MIR] augeas" [High, Fix Released] | 15:33 | |
cpaelzer | it was there in the long past | 15:33 |
cpaelzer | anyway conside this to be done | 15:34 |
sarnold | .. I have to wonder if charms would have been easier if this were part of main | 15:34 |
sarnold | but apparently it was, and they weren't? :) | 15:34 |
cpaelzer | yep | 15:34 |
cpaelzer | abseil -> google test sounds like a memory | 15:34 |
cpaelzer | seb128: jbicha: would one of you plesae look afte rabseil? | 15:35 |
seb128 | will do | 15:35 |
cpaelzer | highway is a known case | 15:35 |
cpaelzer | so is jemalloc | 15:35 |
cpaelzer | all in reviewstages | 15:35 |
cpaelzer | and then the set of openstack packages which grind their way to proper cases | 15:35 |
cpaelzer | all good, actions distributed | 15:35 |
cpaelzer | going on | 15:35 |
cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 15:36 |
cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 15:36 |
cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:36 |
cpaelzer | flexcache was updated to be ready | 15:36 |
cpaelzer | I'll do the review | 15:36 |
cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 15:37 |
cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:37 |
cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:37 |
cpaelzer | three caes with recent updates | 15:37 |
slyon | o/ | 15:37 |
cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-sequoia-sqv/+bug/2089690 - non change, just more incomplete bug task states | 15:37 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2089690 in rust-sequoia-sqv (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rust-sequoia-sq" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:37 | |
cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgit2/+bug/2080872 | 15:37 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2080872 in libgit2 (Ubuntu) "libgit2: replace unmaintained http-parser dependency with llhttp" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:37 | |
cpaelzer | assigning to people | 15:37 |
cpaelzer | ok | 15:37 |
cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/2054480 | 15:37 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2054480 in nbd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] nbd-client" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:37 | |
sarnold | libgit2 is more than that | 15:38 |
cpaelzer | discussions between Pragyansh and sarnold | 15:38 |
sarnold | near the very top there's a new merge proposal | 15:38 |
cpaelzer | readiny ... | 15:38 |
cpaelzer | I ee, asssigned to sponsors | 15:38 |
sarnold | I wish the 'flow' of comments could indicate that, I also jumped right past it yesterday when talking it over with eslerm :) | 15:38 |
cpaelzer | nice | 15:39 |
sarnold | is there anything we need to do to encourage this one along? | 15:39 |
cpaelzer | this is what we wanted and discussed as least worse option | 15:39 |
cpaelzer | no it will be picked up by patch pilots of foundations sponsors I'd assume | 15:39 |
sarnold | cool cool | 15:40 |
slyon | well... it's still "on hold", why's that? | 15:40 |
cpaelzer | sarnold: your comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/2054480 - do you consider it a hint or a blocking (all arch need to be enabled) | 15:40 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2054480 in nbd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] nbd-client" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:40 | |
slyon | latest comment was "Currently pending review from the security team" | 15:40 |
cpaelzer | I need to read more what the recent comments are about | 15:40 |
cpaelzer | seems the apparmor profile | 15:40 |
cpaelzer | indeed slyon | 15:41 |
cpaelzer | sarnold: is that review what you've been going over with eslerm? | 15:41 |
cpaelzer | should we add a ubuntu-security review slot maybe? | 15:41 |
sarnold | cpaelzer: libgit2, eslerm raised it with me, I think he's mostly interested in making sure that goes all the way to completion | 15:42 |
slyon | well, sarnold already did the quick approval here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgit2/+bug/2080872/comments/5 | 15:42 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2080872 in libgit2 (Ubuntu) "libgit2: replace unmaintained http-parser dependency with llhttp" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:42 | |
sarnold | cpaelzer: nbd, I don't think anybody has raised that one | 15:42 |
cpaelzer | I like that they work on tests and appamor - I wonder at what point we should call the propose sufficient | 15:44 |
cpaelzer | I want to avoid some others rushing through without by saying they tried and can't - and those that spend the effort to be punished by small thing in it | 15:44 |
sarnold | ugh I think they went off into the weeds on this one | 15:44 |
cpaelzer | to be clear - all I am is unsure | 15:44 |
cpaelzer | but I'm tending to want to reward that go for tests and isolation with a positive posture | 15:45 |
cpaelzer | so when they come back for review or sponsoring I'd feel +1'ish (plus actually looking at it in depth) | 15:45 |
cpaelzer | sarnold: this feels they tried to explain to you in the last comment | 15:45 |
cpaelzer | I'm unsure if more pings there help much, maybe send a DM and discuss this whenever you are both online? | 15:46 |
cpaelzer | and then add a comment on the bug with whatever your closing state is afte rthat discussion? | 15:46 |
sarnold | cpaelzer: I'll write up a comment | 15:46 |
sarnold | "both online" is going to be a Big Challenge, I have a few hours left in the year :) | 15:47 |
cpaelzer | slyon: do you know if Pragyansh is in EOY already? | 15:47 |
cpaelzer | not sure if you still see the foundations calendar | 15:47 |
cpaelzer | sarnold: ok I see why you therefore consider a bug comment | 15:47 |
cpaelzer | ok | 15:47 |
cpaelzer | let us go on | 15:47 |
cpaelzer | #topic Process/Documentation improvements | 15:47 |
cpaelzer | Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues | 15:47 |
cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls | 15:47 |
cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues | 15:47 |
slyon | cpaelzer: sarnold:, no r41k0u still seems to be around | 15:47 |
cpaelzer | https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/72 is still draft - not touching this one | 15:48 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 72 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "vendor/Rust: more comprehensive dependency removal" [Open] | 15:48 | |
cpaelzer | https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/75 would be ready if you like it slyon and sarnold? | 15:48 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 75 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "Add rules to re-evaluate very old renames" [Open] | 15:48 | |
cpaelzer | it is what we discussed, allowing for doing a bit more than "auto-yes" when we see renames - AND - the case is super duper old | 15:49 |
cpaelzer | and allowing this to be non gating | 15:49 |
sarnold | reading | 15:49 |
cpaelzer | and furthermore allowing teams to suggest for re-review - which is a nice offering but has to be balanced | 15:49 |
cpaelzer | e.g. we recently had a full rewrite in rust - that is worth re-checking and I've done so | 15:49 |
cpaelzer | there is no rush, if you both are happy in 3 min - fine. Otherwise leave your comments and I can evolve it until the meeting next year | 15:50 |
slyon | +1, lgtm | 15:51 |
sarnold | > We'd appreciate if the owning team could file a MIR-reporter bug for it, but would not insist on it if they can't. In that case we create a stub for it. | 15:51 |
sarnold | if the goal is to get packages onto our queue, asking for the bug doesn't seem to be too much to ask, right/ | 15:52 |
sarnold | as a percentage of effort .. | 15:52 |
cpaelzer | if they self-ask then it would be no challenge | 15:52 |
cpaelzer | but if all that happened is auto sync libfoo3 over libfoo2 | 15:52 |
cpaelzer | then I thought we can ask, but not insist | 15:52 |
sarnold | ahhh, to avoid a potential case of a team needing to do a dozen of them in one cycle? | 15:53 |
cpaelzer | yes | 15:53 |
slyon | right. Filing a MIR bug takes quite some investigation, and people might not like that. We could still file a stub and do the review/recommendations in there | 15:53 |
sarnold | okay, sounds good. baby steps. | 15:53 |
cpaelzer | hence all of this is optional - a first step to a better world but acknowledging the shrotages | 15:53 |
cpaelzer | also Schrott :-) but actuall shortages | 15:53 |
slyon | :) | 15:53 |
sarnold | :D (I had to look that one up) | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | BTW I also have more ruls to put down out of archive admin work on multivers/restricted - but one at a time | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | ok 2x good | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | merging | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | Internal link | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 15:54 |
cpaelzer | jpeg-xl was on my mind | 15:55 |
cpaelzer | it is still in TODO but now has a name | 15:55 |
cpaelzer | is that good sarnold? | 15:55 |
sarnold | yes, it is good, but likely very little has been done recently :) | 15:55 |
jbicha | I just uploaded a jpeg-xl security fix to plucky today 😐 | 15:55 |
cpaelzer | hope for increased progress in january? | 15:55 |
sarnold | also, our poor coverity server seems unhappy after repatriating :( we're looking into charming it up to deploy into one of the prodstacks now that we have decent vm capacity | 15:56 |
sarnold | I also hope so, I'll certainly be a bit pointier in asking for status updates post-holidays :) -- december is not a month for getting things done :/ | 15:56 |
cpaelzer | ok, so TL;DR many reasons, the queue is not moving much but gladly not (yet) huge either | 15:56 |
cpaelzer | it is THE month to get things done, get into the close-out-before-EOY feeling | 15:57 |
sarnold | rodrigo did sound optimistic to push exfatprogs over the finish line soon :) | 15:57 |
cpaelzer | great | 15:57 |
sarnold | we shouldn't schedule our use-it-or-lose-it-PTO rally in the same month | 15:57 |
cpaelzer | I think that is it then for today | 15:57 |
cpaelzer | yes @sarnold | 15:57 |
cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 15:57 |
slyon | nothing. | 15:57 |
jbicha | btw, Desktop intends to file a MIR soon for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glycin as a dependency for the loupe image viewer. Probably more of a 25.10 project but we are trying to give Security more time. | 15:57 |
cpaelzer | enjoy the downtime for some fresh energey next year | 15:57 |
sarnold | see you next year :) | 15:57 |
jbicha | it's a bit of a next gen gdk-pixbuf | 15:58 |
cpaelzer | yeah jbicha, doing that early will help | 15:58 |
slyon | jbicha: thanks for the heads up! | 15:58 |
sarnold | jbicha: hopefully without a scary warning to the console every single upgrade? :) | 15:58 |
cpaelzer | but I assume it will need to exist alongside gdk-pixbuf for a whiel | 15:58 |
slyon | if you could file a stub MIR already, that might help to keep it on our radar | 15:58 |
sarnold | > The decoding happens in sandboxed modular image loaders | 15:58 |
cpaelzer | indeed | 15:58 |
sarnold | WOOOHOOO | 15:58 |
jbicha | yes, this was filed recently but it's very early: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/Initiatives/-/issues/53 | 15:59 |
cpaelzer | I want to keep the feeling of hope and call it done for today | 15:59 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Issue 53 in GNOME/Initiatives "Move away from GdkPixbuf" [Opened] | 15:59 | |
slyon | thanks cpaelzer, all! | 15:59 |
cpaelzer | nice to show advantages AND drawbacks | 15:59 |
cpaelzer | that background in a stub would indeed already help | 15:59 |
cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:59:46 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-12-17-15.30.moin.txt | 15:59 |
sarnold | ahh, nice, 'farbfeld' format! so micha can always forget the farbfeld. | 16:00 |
sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 16:00 |
rbasak | o/ | 20:00 |
amurray | o/ | 20:00 |
seb128 | o/ | 20:01 |
seb128 | I just noticed that Lukasz isn't listed on https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members#active anymore | 20:03 |
seb128 | did he leave the team? | 20:03 |
amurray | I wonder if this happened as part of his off-boarding from Canonical? | 20:03 |
seb128 | anyway I guess it's only the 3 of us and Steve/Lukasz where chair and backup so amurray you are next | 20:03 |
amurray | ah ok - give me a couple secs to remember how to drive meetingology :) | 20:04 |
seb128 | amurray, oh, could well be, the IS process doesn't seem to be precise | 20:04 |
amurray | #startmeeting Ubuntu Technical Board | 20:04 |
meetingology | Meeting started at 20:04:36 UTC. The chair is amurray. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 20:04 |
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amurray | #topic Apologies | 20:04 |
amurray | vorlon mentioned he would not be able to make this meeting in an email thread earlier but nothing from sil2100 that I saw | 20:05 |
amurray | #topic Action review | 20:06 |
amurray | ACTION: vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 20:06 |
amurray | will carry over | 20:06 |
amurray | #action vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 20:06 |
meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 20:06 |
amurray | ACTION: seb128 to continue working with AA and Release teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 20:06 |
seb128 | carry over please... | 20:06 |
amurray | #action seb128 to continue working with AA and Release teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 20:06 |
meetingology | ACTION: seb128 to continue working with AA and Release teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 20:06 |
amurray | ACTION: sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification to ensure the listed contacts can action the flavor | 20:06 |
amurray | will also carry-over | 20:06 |
amurray | #action sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification to ensure the listed contacts can action the flavor | 20:07 |
meetingology | ACTION: sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification to ensure the listed contacts can action the flavor | 20:07 |
amurray | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 20:07 |
amurray | #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-December/thread.html | 20:07 |
amurray | nothing other than a pending AMA I guess :) | 20:08 |
rbasak | Does anyone have any comment on my AMA suggestion? | 20:08 |
rbasak | I've had no feedback whatsoever except for Seb's question to Merlijn | 20:08 |
seb128 | indeed, sounds like that's delayed to next year, I guess Mark needs to approve the candidates and didn't reply to the CC yet... | 20:08 |
amurray | I think it is a good idea - am not sure if we'll get much engagement but I like the idea of letting folks ask questions to help them clarify their votes and its a chance for the future TB to understand what issues / initiatives are important | 20:09 |
seb128 | no comment from my part, I'm happy to participate to an AMA session | 20:09 |
rbasak | I suppose we might as well make it coincide with a TB meeting because then it shouldn't really be any burden on any candidate. | 20:10 |
rbasak | But it seems likely we'll end up with no question! | 20:10 |
seb128 | similarly I've doubt on whether we will have participation/questions but let's see | 20:10 |
amurray | yep - during the next respective TB meeting makes sense to me | 20:11 |
seb128 | which triggers a side question | 20:11 |
seb128 | do we need Mark to extend to the memberships? | 20:11 |
seb128 | since we will not have an election on time now | 20:11 |
rbasak | Yes - or any CC member can do it I think. | 20:11 |
rbasak | Might as well be Merlijn as he has the best handle on the schedule I think. | 20:12 |
seb128 | ah, right, they are owner | 20:12 |
amurray | perhaps, but I don't think we need the explicit LP membership to have an informal AMA | 20:12 |
seb128 | I was looking at the admins | 20:12 |
seb128 | well, the membership is not for AMA | 20:12 |
rbasak | amurray: I think seb128 means for regular TB activities and (presumably) emergencies. | 20:12 |
seb128 | but I do wonder if we hit tasks where we need a TB members for the project at a time where we have none | 20:12 |
seb128 | I know it was needed at archive opening time for plucky for example | 20:13 |
rbasak | eg. if the DMB needs a PPU adding, that sort of thing. | 20:13 |
seb128 | but yeah, I think it's better to have acrive member in case we need something restricted to TB | 20:13 |
amurray | right, I guess I was assuming the election etc would happen quite soon in the new year and so there wouldn't be much need for emergency powers etc - but I suppose it makes more sense to have it ready to go just in case | 20:14 |
seb128 | I will take an action item to talk to Merlijn about that if you want | 20:14 |
amurray | sure | 20:14 |
rbasak | Thanks! | 20:14 |
seb128 | also I will take one to talk to IS/Lukasz about what happened there | 20:14 |
amurray | #action seb128 to follow-up with Merlijn about temporarily extending TB memberships | 20:14 |
meetingology | ACTION: seb128 to follow-up with Merlijn about temporarily extending TB memberships | 20:14 |
rbasak | IS really need to have an allowlist of teams whose memberships continue when a Canonical employee leaves. | 20:14 |
seb128 | or the opposite, a list of teams they need to manage | 20:15 |
amurray | So I saw a mailing list post from Heather around this topic, and I've been meaning to respond as well | 20:15 |
seb128 | I've seen several cases of people removed to random project they were working on in their freetime after leaving | 20:15 |
amurray | (oh I see Heather's email was more about 2FA but is related) | 20:16 |
amurray | #link https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-users/msg07251.html | 20:17 |
seb128 | I will share the RT/Cc you if you are interested | 20:17 |
amurray | sure - I was going to say I can take an action to follow this up with IS but if there is already a RT then I don't want to duplicate things | 20:17 |
amurray | although from the TB side I am happy to take an action to try and drive this forward from our perspective but via any existing RT etc | 20:20 |
seb128 | either way is fine to me | 20:21 |
seb128 | pick on, or just list you can me and we can figure out who gets to it first | 20:22 |
seb128 | one | 20:22 |
seb128 | shrug, that sentence is buggy, let me start again :p | 20:22 |
seb128 | pick one, or just list you and me and we can figure out who gets to it first | 20:22 |
amurray | #action amurray and seb128 to engage with IS re Canonical leavers and ubuntu LP team memberships | 20:22 |
meetingology | ACTION: amurray and seb128 to engage with IS re Canonical leavers and ubuntu LP team memberships | 20:22 |
amurray | #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs | 20:24 |
amurray | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard | 20:24 |
amurray | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/techboard | 20:24 |
amurray | nothing new | 20:25 |
amurray | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (next from https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members) | 20:25 |
seb128 | so probably Robie and me as backup? | 20:26 |
amurray | hmm without sil2100 on the list I guess it is rbasak with seb128 as backup | 20:26 |
amurray | heh yep | 20:26 |
rbasak | Ah that's why. He just wanted to get out of chairing :-) | 20:26 |
seb128 | also next meeting is 01-14, just as a reminder that we agreed to skip the 12-31 one | 20:26 |
rbasak | I don't mind being picked | 20:26 |
amurray | #agreed next meeting chair: rbasak, backup: seb128 | 20:27 |
meetingology | AGREED: next meeting chair: rbasak, backup: seb128 | 20:27 |
amurray | #topic AOB | 20:27 |
seb128 | none from me | 20:27 |
amurray | nor from me | 20:29 |
rbasak | Nor me | 20:29 |
amurray | ok, then that's a wrap - thanks seb128 rbasak :) | 20:30 |
amurray | #endmeeting | 20:30 |
meetingology | Meeting ended at 20:30:05 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-12-17-20.04.moin.txt | 20:30 |
rbasak | Thanks all! | 20:30 |
seb128 | thanks amurray and rbasak, have nice holidays and see you next year! | 20:30 |
amurray | thanks - you two too :) have a great break, will see you on the 14th if not beforehand | 20:30 |
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